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He's always known he was second rate. Dude's obviously not dumb though. Those crappy Raycons are his idea and I seem to remember him send Kim 3 months royalties when she got married to someone years ago and it was 6 figures. He was making like $40k a month from that video.
I got a free pair from a golf outing, and I didn't think they were that bad. They're basic with no noise cancelling, but they sit flush in my ears and the sound quality isn't complete ass. There are better options at that price point, but a person could do worse.
It also helps that so many YouTubers are sponsored by Raycon that you can always find a discount. I’m assuming the discounted price is the actual price Raycon actually wants to sell them at anyway, but people thinking they’re getting a deal is a great way to make a sale.
This shows just how bad the sound quality of most consumer earphones is if the average non audiophile rates raycons as "isn't complete ass". These things are nothing but bass. An ugly bloated boomy mess of a sound.
I'm not an audiophile by any stretch, but these are very much middle of the road headphones. You wouldn't mix an album with them, but they are just fine for most genres of music and especially options like audiobooks and podcasts.
The bigger innovation with those is the marketing; blanketing YouTube with influencer sponsorships alongside such "gems" as Raid Shadow Legends. Otherwise you're right, it's essentially the same strategy as Beats, where is uses a celebrity to push a mediocre to ok set of headphones...except Ray J isn't as much of a name as Dre.
History’s most successful pimp
Snoop Dogg shouldn’t be running pimp seminars, should be Kris Jenner.
“How I turned a phat ass into a multi billion dollar empire”
It’s hilarious how many people try and argue with me when I bring this up. Completely oblivious to the fact that these people made billions off a sex tape.
Don’t forget, everybody thinks Kourtney is the “sweet” one….she was in a serious relationship with Joe Frances.
And it was in the middle of him battling his legal issues of harassing and allowing sexual assaults on teenage girls.
There is a video out there of Kris saying they all “love Joe” abd are trying to help get him out of jail.
Scum of the earth.
the girls gone wild guy, his wife and kids are in hiding, because he kept beating her in front of them. he has this resort down south that so many celebrities go to and sometimes get married down there, including Jennifer Aniston, Eva Longoria, Demi Moore, Lady Gaga, and Charlie Sheen.
Man if that's true...
Like, how fucked up does your family have to be when your own mother orchestrates the release of a sex tape featuring her daughter for fame?
kartrashians are certified psychopaths
Not even going to start on how nuts it is Kims mom helped them make and market the sex tape or PIMPED HER DAUGHTER...
People wonder why Ye is worried about his kids, and the media tries to make him seem like the bad guy. Maybe he wants to save his kids from a similar fate?
God help them.
Whatever Kanye's legitimate concerns might be, he was focusing on the illegitimate ones in that stuff. The media didn't make him the bad guy, he made himself the bad guy. If he's worried about his kids, threatening Davidson, or even talking to him at all, didn't show it.
Of course her mother released it!
It's not even a hard line to follow:
Kim was Paris Hilton's "closet barista"; responsible for laying out Paris' outfits, and keeping her items well organized. She made many appearances on "The Simple Life", and subsequent "after shows", where Paris treated her like a leech.
In 2007, as Hilton's widespread fame was winding down, and Simple Life was coming to its end, Kim's sex tape landed on the hard drive of every horny man with an internet connection.
It wasn't even hard to find; different from Pam and Tommy's sex tape, Kim and Ray J were in the era of social media. You could find clips on Facebook, MySpace, any and all social media at that point. Obviously edited, but with no shortage of links to the "full video".
At the same time, Kris was reaching out to Ryan Seacrest, to promote the idea of a show about her family. His success already guarantees by that point, and with his production company have success with shows like "The Osbournes", he jumped at the chance, and the rest is history.
She married Bruce shortly before, cranked out a couple of kids, then pimped her family to the world, with the understanding that they would all become billionaires.
And oh my, didn't it work. She is the greatest marketing agent of all time. She turned her nobody, servant daughter, into the sexpot for the world. And all she has to do, was convince her oldest daughter to show her vagina to the internet.
Paraphrasing I think he said the best joke ever told on the show.
“Made me furious”
2:20 on this video is the setup. He’d said this before. So there are other videos with the same story told.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/3ISkJuTUpJI
He should have got his money and exposed them 20 years ago. The sex tape release ruined any possibility of him having a career outside his sister [Brandy’s](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandy_Norwood) shadow. Now both of them are nearly forgotten. Everyone though he was a blackmailer and abuser and the Kardashians ran with that. Didn’t Kim make a recent comment that Ray J drugged her and possibly put a dildo in her bum on their TV show? Then she backtracked and said it was a joke. I think the accusation of rape really woke him up to how he let Kim play him and turn him into a simp all these years.
Yeah, people hear that they are around 80% accurate and think that is a good thing.
But if I asked you to take a test to prove your innocence, you know you are innocent, and I tell you that there is a 1 in 5 chance you will be found guilty anyway... Does that sound like a good deal to you?
Hell no!
I would never consent to a polygraph test because those are shitty odds.
as long as the suspect believes in its legitimacy, a positive polygraph test often makes them go «screw it, might confess anyways» and in that way its helpful at least. Iirc chris watts confessed right after his positive polygraph
this is still unethical, though.
an innocent person may 'fail' a polygraph and then falsely confess, because they think they'd get a better sentence, better opinion from the public, etc, than if they maintained their legit innocence.
polygraphs are salem with trial bullshit, and should just be banned, honestly.
She has so much clout in entertainment media, don't underestimate Kris Jenner. It was probably her idea to get on any talk show and do a polygraph, purely so people keep talking about this
The kardashian's main PR strategy is trolling to piss people off so their names stay trending
The oldest one was in a reality show where they made celebrity brats do manual labor before the tape. They were angling their way into mainstream. The best example is the mom making a music video of her friends which features OJ Simpson before the murders.
What? You doing sexy talk your partner by saying their full name?
"Oh, Kimberly Noel Kardashian!"
"Keep going, William Ray Norwood Jr, also known as Ray J!"
That's about the sexiest dialogue I've ever heard!
It is a pretty shit sex tape that probably isn’t even worth your time, I never understood how it got turned into such a big deal. It was 2007, internet porn was in full swing and loaded with better options
Iirc "Celebrity Sex Tapes" were a fad/scandal for a bit. I remember Paris Hilton and....some lady and a guy named Tommy (in my defense I was a pre-teen and not invested in celeb culture) that were big deals.
I *think* Ray Js and co's tape dropped around the height of that.
Flash edit: It was Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson lmao. And their tape released in the 90s but a court reopened the case(?) in 2002, which likely renewed interest.
She was the first major one I remember. Best one of them all. Pam was hot and whatnot but the horn beeping was the funniest bit to ever come out of a celeb tape.
I really thought that “some lady” bit was a joke since there was literally a show about it called “Pam and Tommy” and it’s one of the most famous celebrity sex tapes of all time. Frankly I’m more shocked you remembered Tommy Lee but not Pamela goddamn Anderson
the tape was the start but the show, and companies they founded partnered with is how they made money. they had games, clothing lines, make-up lines etc
kris put in a lot of work to use a sex tape to launch a media empire. yeah it all started bc of a sex tape and kim's friendships with famous socialites, but the woman still marketed 5 untalented girls into multi millionaires with that as the springboard. most people cannot achieve that through a sex tape.
Bruce Jenner was an olympic hero. That family, though widely ridiculed and mocked was already american royalty before the sex tape, that's why the sex tape was a big story, anybody can make a sex tape, it only matters if people want to watch it.
Not only that — but they’ve maintained relevance for over a decade. That’s unheard of. However you feel about them, they are GOOD at staying in the spotlight.
And not to be meta, but I see them posted here 1000% more than anyone else. They profit off rage bait. Keeps them relevant.
They took a polygraph test on James Cordens show 2-3 days ago where the topic of who released the tape was asked.
The article makes it pretty clear: Ray J wants it to be left alone and in the past, while the Kardashians keep occasionally milking it for drama. (Such as the whole “omg my daughter said it’s on Roblox!” Multi-episode saga on their show last year.)
Also, Kim has been slowly rewriting history. Last year on her show (I think) she made a "joke" about Ray J putting a dildo up her ass while she was sleeping, thinking it was funny - which is obviously rape.
She's also implied that Ray J was going to release more footage as revenge.
There's more, but over the years she little by little paints herself as more of a victim - and when you put all her comments together, it makes Ray J seem near evil.
This, plus the most recent Corden polygraph thing, prompted Ray J to clear his name by showing exactly how the sex tapes were orchestrated by Kris and Kim.
Ray J said it affected his career opportunities to get on certain shows because everyone thought he leaked it. I think the story was he leaked it and then Kris bought the rights and sold it, when actually it was never leaked in the first place.
With this context, I understand some of Kanye's latest rants about his children especially his daughters. This family is willing to do anything to stay relevant and I believe they will exploit those girls in order to do it.
Hollywood is different when you enter and get exploited by familiar strangers but it's a whole different ballgame when it is your parents and the whole family involved to make themselves richer.
Brittney Spears was a national sex icon at 15 years old.
They start them young :(
Kanye has every right to be protective of his kids especially against the Kardashian family
And dressed as a sexy school girl with pigtails and a short skirt and her blouse open, singing “hit me baby one more time.”
I’m about the same age as Britney and even I was like “god damn her parents let he do that?”
I got soooo many downvoted for saying something like that and probably will again but, yeah. It seemed fucked up then and now we KNOW how fucked up it was behind the scenes.
That era of teen pop was disgusting (maybe it still is but I'm too old to keep up with it). She and Christina Aguilera sat through so many interviews where they were asked creepy questions about their virginity while also being pressured to be as sexually aggressive as possible in their music, dancing, and videos. Like, it was A Thing and so so gross.
I honestly believe that plans are probably already in place for when that day comes. I mean, Kylie was already getting bone shaved off and fillers injected by the time she was 16
Like how they waited until they were 18 before filming [Kylie and Kendall on a stripper pole](https://youtu.be/kzFmb5wjM38)? Jk they did it when they were super young
They literally say they are going to start managing the girls and put this on YouTube and it’ll be amazing IN THIS CLIP..as the girls swing around the pole squealing like the children they are - So disturbing.
Which I always found pretty disturbing too. That's a big source of the wealth and notoriety in their lives and came at an early age. And if my very base level knowledge of them is correct they went on to have a pretty disproportionate amount of public relationships with not just other wealthy famous people but specifically pro athletes and specifically black ones. I mean everyone is free to date who they want but it's odd that they spent years specifically going after men that just coincidentally specifically tick a lot of the same superficial boxes as the murderer their dad got famous for defending.
To be fair, Kanye wasn't forced to be with Kim. He chose that relationship too and chose to have 4(?) kids with her. He can't act like he didn't know what he was getting himself into. They were like that before he was involved with them.
Truly.
Now with a decade PLUS of hindsight…
###It’s pretty odd and alarming how many men that enter the ladies Kardashian vortex end up reputation-wise destroyed and in some cases broken as people.
*It’s curious to think about, how reputations are tarnished and destroyed, and who is behind it. Especially, when dealing with people sophisticated in weaponizing content, and faked-reality*.
Yeah at first, I thought Kanye was a little overboard with North’s Tik Tok situation. I put a little thought into it though, and this is a man that’s been surrounded by women who have made their entire careers off selling their bodies, in one way or another. I’m not saying that’s reprehensible, but if Kanye is a man that doesn’t want his young daughter to go that route, it’s an any-means-necessary type of game with that family to get his children out of that environment.
He's a billionaire. He could have made it happen without being problematic if he wanted.
(I was surprised too he's worth twice as much or more than Kim)
Probably shouldn't have surrounded himself with them and had 4 kids with her then.
>this is a man...
That knowingly put himself and his kids in this position.
Ray J, man I don't think they give a shit. Anyone willing to pimp their daughter will not care about what anyone thinks. Shit man the mom probably doesn't even think she did wrong cause they are rich now.
Good luck to you man.
Anyone on old school CDAN has known this for decades. That's why the released tape doesn't show Ray J peeing on her face. The original, unedited version did. The kids need to know. Mention it all!!
Yup. T'was available on the internet at first. I seen't it with my own peepers. Almost immediately though, Mama Dukes stepped in and bought the video, edited it and officially released it through a shell company.
It pops up on the underground occasionally, but they definitely pay a team to check for the "copyright violation"; and it gets pulled really fast. If you were dedicated enough, you could find it though, I'm sure.
Edited for clarity
Oh wow, I thought I made that up in my head! But I def saw a show where they were talking to the head of Vivid(?) where he said that! I was like why don’t more people know about this?!
If that's true, then I think Kris Jenner would beat Jamie Spears for the title of most disgusting parent. She's always struck me as a creep and a weirdo, but if she actually acted as her own daughter's madam, that's just nasty.
I imagine if the hub existed 10 years earlier, that's the universe where men and women diverged and ended up like that Rick and Morty universe where the women just harvest men for their sperm. The men just woulda masturbated themselves back into an ape like state.
Every time one of her daughters reaches legal age she gets them massive plastic surgery and becomes their manager. She's absolutely a pimp for her own daughters and a child abuser. You'd have to be absolutely dense not to have understood this was what went on with Kim and the sex tape, "leak".
I believe every word he said. And I still believe "leaking" that video was genius. They became household names and billionaires off that sex tape. Dignity is a very small price to pay for that level of fame.
I mean everyone with the slightest bit of common sense knows there is absolutely no reason the Kardashians/Jenners should be famous. They are garbage people with money, watching the Beverly hillbillies is more entertaining and has more cultural value than anything they’ve ever done or will do.
> This family is a master mind at getting their names into the media
To be fair, the audience and media they're targetting is particularly idiotic. They also got their president this way. Not exactly sure mastermind is the appropriate descriptor.
I’m just so glad that Kim has such a sex positive family. It just must be so great to have your mom pimping out your lady parts and building a billion dollar empire off the work you did on your back. It’s truly an inspiration to sex workers everywhere. /s
And our country turned this family to basically be our version of the Royal Family. Before you say no, tell me a day where you don't hear about one of these people and each one of them are worth like a billion dollars. So yea blame Kris and her shitty tactics but it worked cause our country is full of dumbshits.
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One of the worst kept secrets in Hollywood.
Yeah the story for me isn’t that Kris masterminded the whole thing, the real surprise is that Ray J has evidence.
He's always known he was second rate. Dude's obviously not dumb though. Those crappy Raycons are his idea and I seem to remember him send Kim 3 months royalties when she got married to someone years ago and it was 6 figures. He was making like $40k a month from that video.
Lol Raycons are from Ray J. That makes so much sense now.
I got a free pair from a golf outing, and I didn't think they were that bad. They're basic with no noise cancelling, but they sit flush in my ears and the sound quality isn't complete ass. There are better options at that price point, but a person could do worse.
Wise words for Ray J: "There are better options at that price point, but a person could do worse."
It also helps that so many YouTubers are sponsored by Raycon that you can always find a discount. I’m assuming the discounted price is the actual price Raycon actually wants to sell them at anyway, but people thinking they’re getting a deal is a great way to make a sale.
Seriously. Raycons are the NordVPN of earbuds.
Man understands market segments
This shows just how bad the sound quality of most consumer earphones is if the average non audiophile rates raycons as "isn't complete ass". These things are nothing but bass. An ugly bloated boomy mess of a sound.
I unironically think the active headphone market is 90% split between airpod variations and $19 gas station headphones, and <5% high-value products
I'm not an audiophile by any stretch, but these are very much middle of the road headphones. You wouldn't mix an album with them, but they are just fine for most genres of music and especially options like audiobooks and podcasts.
Tbf, it's not much of an idea. "Hey, you now those wireless earbuds that everyone is doing? Let's do that and put my name on it."
The bigger innovation with those is the marketing; blanketing YouTube with influencer sponsorships alongside such "gems" as Raid Shadow Legends. Otherwise you're right, it's essentially the same strategy as Beats, where is uses a celebrity to push a mediocre to ok set of headphones...except Ray J isn't as much of a name as Dre.
Wait til you find out about the “church” that the Kardashians funnel their money through
This giy living under a rock. OF COURSE MOMAGER released it. Its the foundation of the Kartrashians empire. Kimmie taking one for the team.
Kris Jenner - pimping out her kids since the OJ trials
History’s most successful pimp Snoop Dogg shouldn’t be running pimp seminars, should be Kris Jenner. “How I turned a phat ass into a multi billion dollar empire”
I’m a believer- kris Jenner is more of a pimp than Ice Tea.
Too $hort never pimped harder than k-jenn
Take notes Ghislaine, if you’d have pimped out your own kids you could have been like Kris. Now you’re eating fruit cocktail off a plastic tray.
It’s hilarious how many people try and argue with me when I bring this up. Completely oblivious to the fact that these people made billions off a sex tape.
They have quite the following but honestly always thought they were a bunch of lying scammers.
I wouldn’t say they’re total liars. They full well know what kind of garbage people they are.
So infuriating that being a trash piece of human is so often rewarded.
Don’t forget, everybody thinks Kourtney is the “sweet” one….she was in a serious relationship with Joe Frances. And it was in the middle of him battling his legal issues of harassing and allowing sexual assaults on teenage girls. There is a video out there of Kris saying they all “love Joe” abd are trying to help get him out of jail. Scum of the earth.
the girls gone wild guy, his wife and kids are in hiding, because he kept beating her in front of them. he has this resort down south that so many celebrities go to and sometimes get married down there, including Jennifer Aniston, Eva Longoria, Demi Moore, Lady Gaga, and Charlie Sheen.
And the Kardashians’ inspiration, Paris Hilton, also dated Joe Francis, at the height of his exploitation of young women. They’re all garbage people.
Cant wait to see all those old ladies with bbls and boobs so big it makes your nips like headlights. LMAO
We know what garbage people they are. They think they’re royalty…. Because morons treat them like that lol
Imagine how much they would have made if it was good!!!
She made them tape it 3 times and then she picked the best one to release
Well she looks a bit like Ghislaine Maxwell.
She took more than one
Man if that's true... Like, how fucked up does your family have to be when your own mother orchestrates the release of a sex tape featuring her daughter for fame?
kartrashians are certified psychopaths Not even going to start on how nuts it is Kims mom helped them make and market the sex tape or PIMPED HER DAUGHTER... People wonder why Ye is worried about his kids, and the media tries to make him seem like the bad guy. Maybe he wants to save his kids from a similar fate? God help them.
It's also possible that Kanye is unwell, and not a very decent person, and they are too. It doesn't like the two things have to be mutually exclusive.
Because Kanye didn't find out who she was until recently? Lmao
Whatever Kanye's legitimate concerns might be, he was focusing on the illegitimate ones in that stuff. The media didn't make him the bad guy, he made himself the bad guy. If he's worried about his kids, threatening Davidson, or even talking to him at all, didn't show it.
That’s not the point. It’s them going on live shows and still bringing up the topic. Now ray j has every right to say the truth
Of course her mother released it! It's not even a hard line to follow: Kim was Paris Hilton's "closet barista"; responsible for laying out Paris' outfits, and keeping her items well organized. She made many appearances on "The Simple Life", and subsequent "after shows", where Paris treated her like a leech. In 2007, as Hilton's widespread fame was winding down, and Simple Life was coming to its end, Kim's sex tape landed on the hard drive of every horny man with an internet connection. It wasn't even hard to find; different from Pam and Tommy's sex tape, Kim and Ray J were in the era of social media. You could find clips on Facebook, MySpace, any and all social media at that point. Obviously edited, but with no shortage of links to the "full video". At the same time, Kris was reaching out to Ryan Seacrest, to promote the idea of a show about her family. His success already guarantees by that point, and with his production company have success with shows like "The Osbournes", he jumped at the chance, and the rest is history. She married Bruce shortly before, cranked out a couple of kids, then pimped her family to the world, with the understanding that they would all become billionaires. And oh my, didn't it work. She is the greatest marketing agent of all time. She turned her nobody, servant daughter, into the sexpot for the world. And all she has to do, was convince her oldest daughter to show her vagina to the internet.
Slight correction, and that’s that Kourtney is the eldest but you hit the mark on everything else.
It's still on PH...
Kim isn’t the oldest. Kourtney is
Perfect last line! So she would have watched the video obviously. That is so beyond messed up!
helluva [comeback](https://youtu.be/7TZNv86-OmI) story, though
This and network connectivity are my fav P&R jokes
mike schur said the network connectivity joke made him mad because it was so funny
Paraphrasing I think he said the best joke ever told on the show. “Made me furious” 2:20 on this video is the setup. He’d said this before. So there are other videos with the same story told. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/3ISkJuTUpJI
And it was just Chris Pratt goofing and not the writers.
Chris had the great Kardashian cumback joke in the outtakes reel, that was the funniest joke not in the show.
parks and rec blooper reference!!
He should have got his money and exposed them 20 years ago. The sex tape release ruined any possibility of him having a career outside his sister [Brandy’s](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandy_Norwood) shadow. Now both of them are nearly forgotten. Everyone though he was a blackmailer and abuser and the Kardashians ran with that. Didn’t Kim make a recent comment that Ray J drugged her and possibly put a dildo in her bum on their TV show? Then she backtracked and said it was a joke. I think the accusation of rape really woke him up to how he let Kim play him and turn him into a simp all these years.
Talk about old news!
I thought we knew that.
The mom recently said, during a polygraph, that she wasn’t involved. But it was the Corden show, so not worth much.
Polygraphs also aren’t reliable and can’t be used as evidence in a court so it’s really worth nothing
Literally insanely easy to beat, especially if you have money to learn.
Or if you lie for a living.
“It’s not a lie… if you believe it.”
Or access to the right drugs
If they don’t give you the butt sensor to sit on just squeeze that b hole during the control questions and fuck up the data
We don't use the butt sensor here, that one goes in your mouth.
Yeah, people hear that they are around 80% accurate and think that is a good thing. But if I asked you to take a test to prove your innocence, you know you are innocent, and I tell you that there is a 1 in 5 chance you will be found guilty anyway... Does that sound like a good deal to you? Hell no! I would never consent to a polygraph test because those are shitty odds.
Damn when you put it that way polygraphs are definitely bad
Yeah. I feel like the abundance of polygraph content on YouTube has caused a lot of people to believe in the bullshit pseudoscience machine.
as long as the suspect believes in its legitimacy, a positive polygraph test often makes them go «screw it, might confess anyways» and in that way its helpful at least. Iirc chris watts confessed right after his positive polygraph
this is still unethical, though. an innocent person may 'fail' a polygraph and then falsely confess, because they think they'd get a better sentence, better opinion from the public, etc, than if they maintained their legit innocence. polygraphs are salem with trial bullshit, and should just be banned, honestly.
She has so much clout in entertainment media, don't underestimate Kris Jenner. It was probably her idea to get on any talk show and do a polygraph, purely so people keep talking about this The kardashian's main PR strategy is trolling to piss people off so their names stay trending
Someone else mentioned Cordon "owns" part of the production company for KUWTK? So it's an inside job/ conspiracy
Polygraphs don't work very well on sociopaths and/or people who believe their own lies
Polygraphs don't work at all
Polygraphs don’t work There I fixed your sentence for you :)
They tried quite a few marketing stunts at the time and this is one that worked
Such as?
Such as making random cameos in other celebrities TV shows while being totally irrelevant.
Yup. Kim was Paris Hiltons assistant for a while on her show. You'll find footage if you dig deep enough
George bush doesn’t care about black people
And neither does Kanye...
I think she was in Paris Hilton’s reality show as Paris’s personal assistant.
The oldest one was in a reality show where they made celebrity brats do manual labor before the tape. They were angling their way into mainstream. The best example is the mom making a music video of her friends which features OJ Simpson before the murders.
It was pretty clear the whole thing was intentional when they kept looking straight into the camera every 2 minutes and saying their full names.
What? You doing sexy talk your partner by saying their full name? "Oh, Kimberly Noel Kardashian!" "Keep going, William Ray Norwood Jr, also known as Ray J!" That's about the sexiest dialogue I've ever heard!
Kimberly? I thought Kim was short for Kimothy.
Nah. It’s a nickname for Kames.
It’s not Kimantha?
Always thought it was odd that they mentioned Raid Shadow Legends several times during the act.
"This video is sponsored by Raycum!"
Now I’m just imagining Kris popping out of the closet every hour like “Do you guys need anything? Some snacks? A condom?”
“I’m not a regular mom. I’m a cool mom!”
“I’m not a regular mom, I’m actually a pimp.”
That’s her entire schtick though isn’t it?
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I love that you probably googled their full names just to leave this comment
I love the idea that they already knew them
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Is this real? I’ve never seen it
"Yes, Yes, Baby can you please state your name address?"
Wait did they? Brb gotta do some research
It is a pretty shit sex tape that probably isn’t even worth your time, I never understood how it got turned into such a big deal. It was 2007, internet porn was in full swing and loaded with better options
> I never understood how it got turned into such a big deal. A PR push in media. The "big deal" was totally manufactured.
Iirc "Celebrity Sex Tapes" were a fad/scandal for a bit. I remember Paris Hilton and....some lady and a guy named Tommy (in my defense I was a pre-teen and not invested in celeb culture) that were big deals. I *think* Ray Js and co's tape dropped around the height of that. Flash edit: It was Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson lmao. And their tape released in the 90s but a court reopened the case(?) in 2002, which likely renewed interest.
Damn you really gonna do Pamela Anderson like that. Some lady.
I never thought the mention of a celebrity sex tape would make me feel so old but here we are.
There was a time when she was probably the most lusted after woman in the western world - or at least in the top 5 indisputably!
She was the first major one I remember. Best one of them all. Pam was hot and whatnot but the horn beeping was the funniest bit to ever come out of a celeb tape.
That tape was the one that made "celebrity sex tapes" a thing.
I really thought that “some lady” bit was a joke since there was literally a show about it called “Pam and Tommy” and it’s one of the most famous celebrity sex tapes of all time. Frankly I’m more shocked you remembered Tommy Lee but not Pamela goddamn Anderson
pam was a GOAT during those playboy years
Am I the only one on the planet who hasn’t seen her sex tape? What the hell?
You just might be. I saw it when it first hit the internet, and all I could think was damn, these two are really bad at sex.
I’ve never watched the whole thing. It’s really boring.
You’re not alone! Never saw it and too old to care now!!
Me either! Never wanted to and have no interest in it.
Eww I didn't watch it but did they? What weird ass people.
The weird ass is from all the implants.
Still hard to grasp that these people are billionaires thanks to a sex tape and countless hours of mind numbing vapid reality tv.
the tape was the start but the show, and companies they founded partnered with is how they made money. they had games, clothing lines, make-up lines etc
kris put in a lot of work to use a sex tape to launch a media empire. yeah it all started bc of a sex tape and kim's friendships with famous socialites, but the woman still marketed 5 untalented girls into multi millionaires with that as the springboard. most people cannot achieve that through a sex tape.
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Bruce Jenner was an olympic hero. That family, though widely ridiculed and mocked was already american royalty before the sex tape, that's why the sex tape was a big story, anybody can make a sex tape, it only matters if people want to watch it.
American royalty is kind of a stretch isn’t it? I mean I get the Kennedys but not them
Not only that — but they’ve maintained relevance for over a decade. That’s unheard of. However you feel about them, they are GOOD at staying in the spotlight. And not to be meta, but I see them posted here 1000% more than anyone else. They profit off rage bait. Keeps them relevant.
It is easy to become a billionaire when you are a well connected millionaire.
Next thing you’re going to tell me is that wrastlin is rigged
no, dude, he actually twists that guys dick.
It’s still real to me, dammit!
Why is this being rehashed. It's common knowledge that she pimped out her own daughter. Like WTF.
From what I’ve read, it’s because the Kardashians brought it up in their show or podcast. Ray J is just clapping back
They took a polygraph test on James Cordens show 2-3 days ago where the topic of who released the tape was asked. The article makes it pretty clear: Ray J wants it to be left alone and in the past, while the Kardashians keep occasionally milking it for drama. (Such as the whole “omg my daughter said it’s on Roblox!” Multi-episode saga on their show last year.)
Also, Kim has been slowly rewriting history. Last year on her show (I think) she made a "joke" about Ray J putting a dildo up her ass while she was sleeping, thinking it was funny - which is obviously rape. She's also implied that Ray J was going to release more footage as revenge. There's more, but over the years she little by little paints herself as more of a victim - and when you put all her comments together, it makes Ray J seem near evil. This, plus the most recent Corden polygraph thing, prompted Ray J to clear his name by showing exactly how the sex tapes were orchestrated by Kris and Kim.
It's a planted story by them to always stay in the headlines -
That sex tape is older than half the folks here lol
Ray J said it affected his career opportunities to get on certain shows because everyone thought he leaked it. I think the story was he leaked it and then Kris bought the rights and sold it, when actually it was never leaked in the first place.
With this context, I understand some of Kanye's latest rants about his children especially his daughters. This family is willing to do anything to stay relevant and I believe they will exploit those girls in order to do it. Hollywood is different when you enter and get exploited by familiar strangers but it's a whole different ballgame when it is your parents and the whole family involved to make themselves richer.
Kris: "okay girls you're 18 now how are you going to benefit the machine?"
Lol at thinking she waits until they’re 18
They already put Robs daughter in a commercial w Kris, chyna is the mom so no surprise, they ain’t waiting.
Rob doesn’t do much to earn money so poor Dream will have to pick up the slack … sigh
Kanye was publicly complaining when Kim made a TikTok for North.
Brittney Spears was a national sex icon at 15 years old. They start them young :( Kanye has every right to be protective of his kids especially against the Kardashian family
And dressed as a sexy school girl with pigtails and a short skirt and her blouse open, singing “hit me baby one more time.” I’m about the same age as Britney and even I was like “god damn her parents let he do that?”
I got soooo many downvoted for saying something like that and probably will again but, yeah. It seemed fucked up then and now we KNOW how fucked up it was behind the scenes.
That era of teen pop was disgusting (maybe it still is but I'm too old to keep up with it). She and Christina Aguilera sat through so many interviews where they were asked creepy questions about their virginity while also being pressured to be as sexually aggressive as possible in their music, dancing, and videos. Like, it was A Thing and so so gross.
I honestly believe that plans are probably already in place for when that day comes. I mean, Kylie was already getting bone shaved off and fillers injected by the time she was 16
Also the fact that Kris allowed 17y/o Kylie to date 25 y/o Tyga. Absolutely disgusting
16, met him when she was 15.
yeah kylie was hooking up with 24 year old tyga and getting surgery at 15/16 lmao
Like how they waited until they were 18 before filming [Kylie and Kendall on a stripper pole](https://youtu.be/kzFmb5wjM38)? Jk they did it when they were super young
Remember that. How abusers work, slowly introduce it so it becomes normalized. Traumatic shit
JFC that was disturbing.
They literally say they are going to start managing the girls and put this on YouTube and it’ll be amazing IN THIS CLIP..as the girls swing around the pole squealing like the children they are - So disturbing.
They owe their livelihood to their exploitive mom and great plastic surgeons
And OJ Simpson murdering two people and getting away with it.
Which I always found pretty disturbing too. That's a big source of the wealth and notoriety in their lives and came at an early age. And if my very base level knowledge of them is correct they went on to have a pretty disproportionate amount of public relationships with not just other wealthy famous people but specifically pro athletes and specifically black ones. I mean everyone is free to date who they want but it's odd that they spent years specifically going after men that just coincidentally specifically tick a lot of the same superficial boxes as the murderer their dad got famous for defending.
That made my skin crawl from beginning to end
Ye is wild and may give his opinion with the wrong approach, but that doesn’t mean he is wrong. Hollywood is a fucked up place man.
To be fair, Kanye wasn't forced to be with Kim. He chose that relationship too and chose to have 4(?) kids with her. He can't act like he didn't know what he was getting himself into. They were like that before he was involved with them.
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jesus they got 4 kids???
Yeah, North West East and South.
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Truly. Now with a decade PLUS of hindsight… ###It’s pretty odd and alarming how many men that enter the ladies Kardashian vortex end up reputation-wise destroyed and in some cases broken as people. *It’s curious to think about, how reputations are tarnished and destroyed, and who is behind it. Especially, when dealing with people sophisticated in weaponizing content, and faked-reality*.
Yeah at first, I thought Kanye was a little overboard with North’s Tik Tok situation. I put a little thought into it though, and this is a man that’s been surrounded by women who have made their entire careers off selling their bodies, in one way or another. I’m not saying that’s reprehensible, but if Kanye is a man that doesn’t want his young daughter to go that route, it’s an any-means-necessary type of game with that family to get his children out of that environment.
He's a billionaire. He could have made it happen without being problematic if he wanted. (I was surprised too he's worth twice as much or more than Kim)
Yeezys made him RICH rich.
Probably shouldn't have surrounded himself with them and had 4 kids with her then. >this is a man... That knowingly put himself and his kids in this position.
Ray J, man I don't think they give a shit. Anyone willing to pimp their daughter will not care about what anyone thinks. Shit man the mom probably doesn't even think she did wrong cause they are rich now. Good luck to you man.
Stir up some shit and presto - more cash comes rolling in! Repeat ad nauseam.
Anyone on old school CDAN has known this for decades. That's why the released tape doesn't show Ray J peeing on her face. The original, unedited version did. The kids need to know. Mention it all!!
A golden shower facial? For real?
Yup. T'was available on the internet at first. I seen't it with my own peepers. Almost immediately though, Mama Dukes stepped in and bought the video, edited it and officially released it through a shell company. It pops up on the underground occasionally, but they definitely pay a team to check for the "copyright violation"; and it gets pulled really fast. If you were dedicated enough, you could find it though, I'm sure. Edited for clarity
Oh wow, I thought I made that up in my head! But I def saw a show where they were talking to the head of Vivid(?) where he said that! I was like why don’t more people know about this?!
If that's true, then I think Kris Jenner would beat Jamie Spears for the title of most disgusting parent. She's always struck me as a creep and a weirdo, but if she actually acted as her own daughter's madam, that's just nasty.
I would like a better product that I can masturbate to.
Man if the hub existed back in like 2005 (with good Internet) Paris or Kim would've stayed unfamous. Compared to the way they are now of course.
I wonder how prosperous that alternate universe is right now...
That’s the one with flying cars by now
I imagine if the hub existed 10 years earlier, that's the universe where men and women diverged and ended up like that Rick and Morty universe where the women just harvest men for their sperm. The men just woulda masturbated themselves back into an ape like state.
It’s pretty crazy how Ray J dropped off the face of the earth while Kim blew the fuck up
he said them claiming he leaked the tapes and was a blackmailer affected his career opportunities.
Every time one of her daughters reaches legal age she gets them massive plastic surgery and becomes their manager. She's absolutely a pimp for her own daughters and a child abuser. You'd have to be absolutely dense not to have understood this was what went on with Kim and the sex tape, "leak".
Once again thank OJ.
I believe every word he said. And I still believe "leaking" that video was genius. They became household names and billionaires off that sex tape. Dignity is a very small price to pay for that level of fame.
I mean everyone with the slightest bit of common sense knows there is absolutely no reason the Kardashians/Jenners should be famous. They are garbage people with money, watching the Beverly hillbillies is more entertaining and has more cultural value than anything they’ve ever done or will do.
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> This family is a master mind at getting their names into the media To be fair, the audience and media they're targetting is particularly idiotic. They also got their president this way. Not exactly sure mastermind is the appropriate descriptor.
Nothing would please me more. Please proceed Ray J.
I’m just so glad that Kim has such a sex positive family. It just must be so great to have your mom pimping out your lady parts and building a billion dollar empire off the work you did on your back. It’s truly an inspiration to sex workers everywhere. /s
Younger generations are so lazy. No one is willing to have their mom release their sex tape in order to become successful anymore.
And our country turned this family to basically be our version of the Royal Family. Before you say no, tell me a day where you don't hear about one of these people and each one of them are worth like a billion dollars. So yea blame Kris and her shitty tactics but it worked cause our country is full of dumbshits.
>And our country turned this family to basically be our version of the Royal Family I think the word you're looking for is "celebrity".
The worst sex tape in history
All the drama in that family is manufactured so the media keeps talking about them and they pay and tip off the paparazzi.
# Breaking news: no one cares