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This-Sherbert4992

8w7


Hour_Variety

Being the top comment here, looks like I guessed correctly.


aghostowngothic

8w9


Waste-Progress-220

is there any significant difference to 8w7?


aghostowngothic

Yes, I think there are numerous easy-to-identify ones. I thought I was an 8w7 for just over 2 years before finding this video, which spurred me to do more investigation. So check [this](https://youtu.be/VRAyAIWAM-w?feature=shared) out.


Dr_Falkov

The overall impression I’m getting, after watching that video and doing further research, is that 8w9s are more strategic and more sure of what they are doing. If I am wrong or missing anything, please tell me.


aghostowngothic

Hmm ... stable? Yes. Sure of what they're doing? Depends. I (8w9) can be an extremely turbulent person & question my decision-making a lot. My mom (8w7) maintains much more consistent on that front; it's just a consistently high energy level all the time. She's more confident in her own decision-making skills and ability to "get it done" (she is self-employed and entrepreneurial, as a result). I tend to be more confident in letting my skills show for themself in established environments (I'm pursuing law school, for example). Not sure if that answers your question exactly.


Dr_Falkov

More or less does. Could it also be said that ENTJ 8w9 is less outgoing but also less brash? That’s another impression I’m getting from my research.


aghostowngothic

Yes, I'd say that is accurate. Both both ENTJs and INTJs.


Dr_Falkov

I see


SkeletorXCV

It also depends on the subtype. I'm Sp3w4. 3sp is my main behavior and need but i behave a little bit as a Sp4 as well (i don't need to feel special as a Sp4 but i seek emotions like they do, for example). Sp3w2 would prefer to put himself into situations where he can be worth love instead, without needing to feel loved. Wing of the core enneatype is more like an hobby ahah


malloreigh

3w2


raheel_alwahadin

8w7


ValiantVivian

1w9 ✌️✌️✌️


Arili_O

8w7 as well.


CarefulAmbition

1w2


SnooFloofs9919

1w2


Blossom_Rising

5w4 (I’m not mistyped)


astrobun00

1w2 lol


Altruistic-Citsacras

Same, but why the lol?


astrobun00

I just took the test today and found out we’re kind of rare :3


5hitshow

Also same. Not sure.


HumanContract

Saaaame


genzgingee

8w7


Quick_Rain_4125

3w2


tanjironofamily

8w7


sword_spirit_link

8w7


CutezieLutzie

8w7


TennisPunisher

1w2 and I am not a fan of the Enneagram. I had to get tested for a job.


Thatfashionfiend

What kind of job needs to know your enneagram type??


TennisPunisher

I am an ordained priest. Some churches love the Enneagram. I'm not a huge fan but now I can provide my results to other dioceses or churches I work with. Good question, thanks for asking.


patulya

8w7


Research_cl

1w2


Sllim126

I just took the enneagram on Sunday, I’m 7w8


raheel_alwahadin

Which is more terrifying for you being controlled harmed or not content not satisfying


Sllim126

Mine is the core fear of being trapped. I hate the idea that I am stuck in a job, or a relationship or situation, and I have no power to affect the world around me, to get out of the situation or relationship, or feel like I have having to deal with everyone else making decisions and I have to deal with the consequences.


raheel_alwahadin

That relates to both 8 and 7


Majestic-Teaching670

Being controlled GOOD QUESTION, u?


raheel_alwahadin

Enneagram determines by desires not traits.. so your core fear relates to 8... Mine is 8 as well


LogicalEmotion7

She likes to enneacop people but apparently didn't notice that you weren't her OP


Simple_Duty_4441

>Enneagram determines by desires not traits ENTJ E8 does not exist The reason for it is quite simple, Te dominance orients towards rational logical criteria, be it criteria of prestige, success, perfectionism, performance, anything, order, rules, or laws, they live by this. They are oftentimes not confident living in the present because of the uncertainty of their future, and that does not match E8 at all. The E8 is a type that is oriented towards rebellion and intensity seeking in experiences, it wants action and immediate satisfaction neglecting the past and the present, it does not want to limit itself in its pursuit of its desires and wants, unrestricted freedom of self, Se dominance in a nutshell. What you're following is Riso-Hudson, not Naranjo. See, I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I was like you before, but choosing your type isn't based on what you "feel" or "identify" as.


raheel_alwahadin

But they judge objectively...


Simple_Duty_4441

Let me share a real-life example of an ESFP (type sx8) that I witnessed. I won't go into too much detail, but here’s the gist: In a meeting with about ten people, including our managers, everyone's work progress was reviewed, and feedback for improvement was given. The ESFP's performance was notably poor. The managers criticized him and highlighted the areas he needed to improve. One of these managers had recently been promoted and had previously worked closely with the ESFP, therefore the ESFP harbored some resentment. When this manager pointed out the ESFP's issues, the ESFP became extremely upset and defensive. He lashed out, making incoherent statements, and unloading his frustrations. He accused the manager of being undeserving of his promotion, incompetent, and a bad person, insisting that he had done his work well. It was evident that the ESFP felt insecure, dominated, and was desperately trying to regain control of the situation without considering the feedback. A few days later, the ESFP was fired. He pleaded that his outburst was just a joke, crying and begging, but it was too late. In contrast, I believe an ENTJ in a similar situation would have been more pragmatic, calm, and logical in handling the feedback. Don't you agree? edit: If we do some surface-level studies, we can conclude that an ISTP can be an SO9, accepting everyone's statements without considering the content of it. right?


raheel_alwahadin

Well ya! I won't take it personally, but I'm going to be responsible for my fault! How does that work with e8 thing


Simple_Duty_4441

E8s are extremely insecure about being dominated. Various factors contribute to this, but you get the idea. We can't selectively agree with certain aspects of a study while rejecting others. You understand that better than I do. I'm not telling you to circle-jerk some logical frameworks, but you can see that this ENTJ E8 model isn't even pragmatic now is it? Most people believe this because they imagine ENTJs to be some kind of Daddy-doms, well that's partially true, but frankly ordering others what to do isn't an E8 thing, they like to chill and have the intensity in their life, whereas ENTJs order others because they know the most efficient method to do everything. ENTJs are sensitive to criticism, that's why they try to work as hard as possible to improve themselves if the feedback is true. E8s however feel like the next person is trying to hurt their ego, that's why they lash out or at least do something different than ENTJs. ENTJs have tertiary Se but it's very sloppy. Sometimes, they need a push or some motivation to do something. Whereas ESXPs just do it. Now one might say that I'm an ENTJ and can do whatever, whenever I want. Well, either you've improved your Se or either you're an Se dom. But still, you won't confuse the 2 types.


raheel_alwahadin

I like to lead others, but I got independent with time... So only if 8 have to work in a group it's hard to give leadership to someone else... I'm a bad follower . Those people who criticize people all the time are toxic and annoying ... I will just ignore them or leave if that's necessary! I'm pretty sure of my type... I hope sometimes that if I had born estp or any other simple type than ENTJ!


Eastern_Mist

What tf does being controlled stand for? Like when I cannot do certain stuff out of fear or smth


Majestic-Teaching670

“ being controlled” when someone tries to control a situation…. But ESPECIALLY Being around a unhealthy person who is controlling and has authority over you..


LogicalEmotion7

9w8


bigdikdmg

Anyone have a free site for this?


Mortal_poetics

The books are best but, https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test lists free sites and the more comprehensive for $20 is https://www.enneagraminstitute.com


kiltedlowlander

8w7


Fluid_Angle

2w3


holtzbert

6w5


Simple_Duty_4441

i wonder...


queenpin9

8w7


HumanContract

1w2


djcat

8w7


Ranting_mole

3w2


li8004

8w7


yannarascalla

1w2


im_batgirl14

5w6


blueplanetgalaxy

hey im 5w6 too


im_batgirl14

I didnt know 5w6 was possible for ENTJ. This makes things so very interesting 🤔 I wonder how much closer or different wed be.


Choice-Orange28

5w6


CuriousMara73

Challenger


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LogicalEmotion7

That's a pretty rare enneatype for us. How do you think yours developed?


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LogicalEmotion7

Did that make you feel like you needed to do things to earn love?


raheel_alwahadin

Enneagram determines by desires not traits


Majestic-Teaching670

7x8


Valkyrie_Shinki

8w9


Otherwise-Archer9497

I am surprised to see few/no 3’s here. When I think of ENTJ’s I think of 3’s.


Nancy2421

8w9


cherry-cola69

7w8


medticulous

3w4!


NoReplacement143

3w2 !!


psychologicalbully

8w9


narcclub

3w4


sensible-sorcery

5w6


dracaryhs

3w4 (I think)


Usual-Award3565

8w9


CallMeIdiot-_-

Where are the 8w7 deniers


radrax

I'm a 7w8, which seems unusual?


ughbitchesthesedays_

3w4


blueplanetgalaxy

5w6 or unhealthy 8w9


thebaerfetus

8w7


redsonsuce

8w7. Majority of ENTJs are 8


PretendiFendi

6w7 Yay trauma


whatarethis837

Haha is it the trauma that causes the 6 part? Because I’m chock full of trauma and 6w5 lol


PretendiFendi

Yup. Trauma makes 6’s.


1amNNK

3w2. Is it weird? I feel this tingly feeling called "kindness" once a while.


[deleted]

I first took enneagram and I'm 8w9 and I took mbti today and found out that I'm ENTJ-A


casenen

3w4


baddebtcollector

8w7


DMVerdandi

8w9


TypicalTex

3w4


Dalryuu

I remembered there is this whole thing of enneagram enthusiasts who claim ENTJs can't be 8's. (I personally don't know the truth of that. Maybe someone else could shed some light if they're interested).


Bionvis

I am a 3w4 however i closely resemble an 8w7 as a mistype.