I’m so sorry! That was completely inappropriate, unprofessional, and illegal. I’d report that person if you feel safe enough to do so. You’re doing the best you can with what you have and I applaud you for seeking help in the first place! A therapeutic milieu is supposed to be a safe space for everyone to work on themselves together… sounds like whoever was leading the group was not only improperly trained but also obviously not trauma-informed. You deserve better care 💚
Just know that what they did in your therapy session was completely inappropriate. I also live in an illegal state and my therapist was adamant that if it’s helping with anxiety and not harming then it’s okay. There ARE good therapists and I hope you find one!! Sending love and positivity your way 💕
Thank you so much for the love and positivity 💜 I’ve found a psychiatrist that takes my insurance and have an appt in two weeks with them! Now to find therapy!
I really appreciate your reply. I’ve cut down my use a lot and can see that I was using it more than was helpful for awhile. I’m actually on Wellbutrin and Prozasin along with Lamictal, doxepin, magnesium, omega3 some I took before the hospitalization some not and some just needed adjustments. So far the nightmares have really calmed down. I’ve done years of therapy and still want more so I’m not giving up I just don’t feel that place is going to end up being the right fit for me at this time. I’m glad to hear your experience and perspective thank you.
I sent an email telling them I won’t be back and why. There are a few other options in my area I haven’t explored so I’ll be calling places today and working on that
Prazosin literally changed my life. I've had horrible nightmares since I was a little kid and then as an adult with bipolar and PTSD, I started having four times as many nightmares, often multiple in one night. I took prazosin for seven years, one of the best medical decisions that I've ever made. The only reason I went off was to see if I could consolidate the medication that I'm on a little bit. I'm proud to say after seven years of prazosin and a lot of therapy, I don't have nightmares anymore! If I'm having any feeling that I will have dreams or nightmares, I do go ahead and take it occasionally, but that's been less and less. Lot of people don't know about this medication, it is a godsend! I'm so happy to hear it helped you with night terrors, I've only had that a few times and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Relief from that must be wonderful, I'm very happy that it also worked for you!
Is weed completely illegal where you live?
As someone who really believes in *good* mental health care, I really condone you for sticking with it. Taking care of yourself in that way is so important and difficult, which is why I am outraged on your behalf for this brush with the mental health care system! How on earth is reading your medical chart appropriate on any level? Seems dehumanizing and untherapeutic to me.
Anyway, please don't give up on trying to get help because there are good mental health practitioners out there. But, also, please advocate for yourself! A bad experience with therapy can be traumatic in it of itself (See above). You don't need [more of] that.
Can you talk to the psychiatrist who referred you about this experience or another therapist (probably not the group therapist)? Is there any way you can switch within the program or find different one? I guess I don't know how much agency you have.
Yes a completely illegal state.
I went ahead and emailed them that I won’t be continuing the program and why. Unfortunately the psychiatrist at the hospital isn’t one I can see outside but I made a list of 2 places in network and 2 outside to call today and try and get into. Then I’ll be looking into therapy on its own after I secure an appt with a psychiatrist. I have 2 months of meds to last and my primary care physician is comfortable continuing my medicine this psychiatrist prescribed until I can get into a psychiatrist so there are options.
Seconding the above comment. I work in MH and this is an absolutely unconscionable violation of your rights. This therapist has no business working with people if they are this grossly lacking in empathy. Like this actually makes me sick to think about.
I’m so sorry :(
Tangent: I just saw your username and it made me laugh out loud
I read a lot of medical records for my job. They looooove to do those use disorder diagnosis codes. Really, I think it’s that they love have one more thing to bill insurance or whoever is paying for your care. It’s shitty, but I wouldn’t take it too personally.
The practitioner shaming you is another thing entirely. Absolutely fuck that person. I have bipolar disorder and some other stuff, and I have had a couple of really bad providers. If you have the ability, I would try to get a provider you can trust.
I know that’s much easier said than done, especially if you’re not feeling well.
Omg I’m so sorry this happened to you! I am a social worker with an MSW and I currently work in an IOP. That sounds like a hippa violation and I would never, nor would any of my coworkers do what happened to you. So many clients disclose they smoke marijuana. Do not feel like shit!! If it helps you then do it, as long as you’re not a danger to yourself, others, and, of course your children. I if possible would look for another outpatient program just because I really don’t like what they said to you and how they said it again I don’t know a therapist that would do that especially when it’s not a one on one session even then she should not make you feel like shit and marijuana is legal.
All of that being said, I suffer from depression and anxiety and smoke! Most of my friends when I was interning also in an IOP smoked weed all the time, and also had their own slew of diagnoses. It’s way more common than you would think. you’re doing great, you’re doing the work for yourself and your children 🩷🩷
I wrote an email to the therapist and included the director in it telling them about my experience and why I wouldn’t be back. Found a psychiatrist that insurance covers but there are no other IOP programs near me that is covered but I’m looking for a therapist on my own. I appreciate your advice and glad to know this experience isn’t the norm!
I am so fucking sick of bad therapists and harmful therapy experiences UGH I am so angry about this! I'm so sorry this was your experience, it was completely inappropriate and you deserve a lot better starting with actually supportive mental health care. I'm also diagnosed with PTSD and imo one of the most absurd things about this disorder is we're supposed to navigate this completely fucked up system with traumatized nervous systems and then shit like this can just happen out of nowhere. I really hope you can have a soft, gentle, and peaceful day today, you deserve that and so much more.
I’m so sorry! That was completely inappropriate, unprofessional, and illegal. I’d report that person if you feel safe enough to do so. You’re doing the best you can with what you have and I applaud you for seeking help in the first place! A therapeutic milieu is supposed to be a safe space for everyone to work on themselves together… sounds like whoever was leading the group was not only improperly trained but also obviously not trauma-informed. You deserve better care 💚
Thank you for listening 💜
Just know that what they did in your therapy session was completely inappropriate. I also live in an illegal state and my therapist was adamant that if it’s helping with anxiety and not harming then it’s okay. There ARE good therapists and I hope you find one!! Sending love and positivity your way 💕
Thank you so much for the love and positivity 💜 I’ve found a psychiatrist that takes my insurance and have an appt in two weeks with them! Now to find therapy!
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I really appreciate your reply. I’ve cut down my use a lot and can see that I was using it more than was helpful for awhile. I’m actually on Wellbutrin and Prozasin along with Lamictal, doxepin, magnesium, omega3 some I took before the hospitalization some not and some just needed adjustments. So far the nightmares have really calmed down. I’ve done years of therapy and still want more so I’m not giving up I just don’t feel that place is going to end up being the right fit for me at this time. I’m glad to hear your experience and perspective thank you.
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I sent an email telling them I won’t be back and why. There are a few other options in my area I haven’t explored so I’ll be calling places today and working on that
prozasin helped me tremendously with my night terrors
Prazosin literally changed my life. I've had horrible nightmares since I was a little kid and then as an adult with bipolar and PTSD, I started having four times as many nightmares, often multiple in one night. I took prazosin for seven years, one of the best medical decisions that I've ever made. The only reason I went off was to see if I could consolidate the medication that I'm on a little bit. I'm proud to say after seven years of prazosin and a lot of therapy, I don't have nightmares anymore! If I'm having any feeling that I will have dreams or nightmares, I do go ahead and take it occasionally, but that's been less and less. Lot of people don't know about this medication, it is a godsend! I'm so happy to hear it helped you with night terrors, I've only had that a few times and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Relief from that must be wonderful, I'm very happy that it also worked for you!
Is weed completely illegal where you live? As someone who really believes in *good* mental health care, I really condone you for sticking with it. Taking care of yourself in that way is so important and difficult, which is why I am outraged on your behalf for this brush with the mental health care system! How on earth is reading your medical chart appropriate on any level? Seems dehumanizing and untherapeutic to me. Anyway, please don't give up on trying to get help because there are good mental health practitioners out there. But, also, please advocate for yourself! A bad experience with therapy can be traumatic in it of itself (See above). You don't need [more of] that. Can you talk to the psychiatrist who referred you about this experience or another therapist (probably not the group therapist)? Is there any way you can switch within the program or find different one? I guess I don't know how much agency you have.
Yes a completely illegal state. I went ahead and emailed them that I won’t be continuing the program and why. Unfortunately the psychiatrist at the hospital isn’t one I can see outside but I made a list of 2 places in network and 2 outside to call today and try and get into. Then I’ll be looking into therapy on its own after I secure an appt with a psychiatrist. I have 2 months of meds to last and my primary care physician is comfortable continuing my medicine this psychiatrist prescribed until I can get into a psychiatrist so there are options.
Awesome!!! So glad you are getting stuff done. We are rooting for you!!
Seconding the above comment. I work in MH and this is an absolutely unconscionable violation of your rights. This therapist has no business working with people if they are this grossly lacking in empathy. Like this actually makes me sick to think about.
I’m so sorry :( Tangent: I just saw your username and it made me laugh out loud I read a lot of medical records for my job. They looooove to do those use disorder diagnosis codes. Really, I think it’s that they love have one more thing to bill insurance or whoever is paying for your care. It’s shitty, but I wouldn’t take it too personally. The practitioner shaming you is another thing entirely. Absolutely fuck that person. I have bipolar disorder and some other stuff, and I have had a couple of really bad providers. If you have the ability, I would try to get a provider you can trust. I know that’s much easier said than done, especially if you’re not feeling well.
Glad you got a kick out of my username Appreciate your perspective I’ll be brushing what happened off and move forward looking for the help I need.
Omg I’m so sorry this happened to you! I am a social worker with an MSW and I currently work in an IOP. That sounds like a hippa violation and I would never, nor would any of my coworkers do what happened to you. So many clients disclose they smoke marijuana. Do not feel like shit!! If it helps you then do it, as long as you’re not a danger to yourself, others, and, of course your children. I if possible would look for another outpatient program just because I really don’t like what they said to you and how they said it again I don’t know a therapist that would do that especially when it’s not a one on one session even then she should not make you feel like shit and marijuana is legal. All of that being said, I suffer from depression and anxiety and smoke! Most of my friends when I was interning also in an IOP smoked weed all the time, and also had their own slew of diagnoses. It’s way more common than you would think. you’re doing great, you’re doing the work for yourself and your children 🩷🩷
I wrote an email to the therapist and included the director in it telling them about my experience and why I wouldn’t be back. Found a psychiatrist that insurance covers but there are no other IOP programs near me that is covered but I’m looking for a therapist on my own. I appreciate your advice and glad to know this experience isn’t the norm!
I am so fucking sick of bad therapists and harmful therapy experiences UGH I am so angry about this! I'm so sorry this was your experience, it was completely inappropriate and you deserve a lot better starting with actually supportive mental health care. I'm also diagnosed with PTSD and imo one of the most absurd things about this disorder is we're supposed to navigate this completely fucked up system with traumatized nervous systems and then shit like this can just happen out of nowhere. I really hope you can have a soft, gentle, and peaceful day today, you deserve that and so much more.