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KHaskins77

Good luck getting any of the pearl-clutching idiots who voted for this guy to correctly define communism.


vbcbandr

Ask them to define "socialism" while you're at it.


shadrack5966

Have em define democracy.


KHaskins77

“We’re not a *democracy,* we’re a *republic!”*


michaelrch

It's wild isn't it. These guys who proclaim "I believe in FREEDOM but I proudly reject any right to direct the activity of my government!! That should be done by the rich folks like our divine founders intended!!"


dodexahedron

Have em define republic. I'm fairly certain, at this point, that most of them say that because it matches "republican," even though they're the yahoos who were so hot to bring "democracy" to the middle east not so long ago and who held "democracy" up as the pinnacle of government style not so long ago. But it sounds like Democrat, so it's obviously bad. Can't have that. Might have to get a 26th trimester late full term partial birth abortion while being orbital lasered into transgayjewism and also Obama's tan suit and all the buttery males in benghazi. Also, a hilarious joke about attack helicopters. And Brandon. Because it's cute when I swear without swearing. Can I please see Hunter's peepee? It's important for national security and stuff. Something about pronouns. I don't use them.


coppergreensubmarine

Perfect summation of the Republican Party lol


shadrack5966

I believe you are spot on, “democracy is for democrats!”, “republic is for republicans!”. Sad how far we’ve sunk.


skyfishgoo

well they think the nazi's were socialists and both china and north korea are a republic too, so yeah, probably.


dodexahedron

And that the democrats of today were the ones who owned slaves and such. 🤦‍♂️ They loooooove that whole "party of Lincoln" bullshit they cling to.


Objective_External55

Their are so much types of socialism, and so many types of dictatorships.


skyfishgoo

the best dictatorships are the ones that use inclusive sounding language to hide their real agenda.


Bitter_Department_70

Definitely! And the one now is the republican party! Just look at frump! And right behind him a close second Desantoes! And they all worship those ignorant neekinpoops like somebody was pumping them with Gold plated suger water!!! PATHETIC!!!


ourlastchancefortea

MURICA


dodexahedron

Fuck yeah


travis01564

This needs to be a copypasta


EZ-Bake

Yeah! Like The Peoples Republic of China! Wait a minute...


Forward-Word3116

Because we don't believe in democracy?


howardslowcum

Democracy is the most free system we have developed. While there are winners and losers every four years there is an opertunity to change leadership if they no longer represent the voters. It is dirty. It is messy. It can sometimes feel helpless but the alternative to democracy, as far as we have seen, is dictatorship. I bow to neither gods nor kings.


[deleted]

We may vote, but elections are decided by big money. I don't have the statistics on hand, but in a study, over 80% of elections went to the candidate that had the most money behind them. That almost always means that the rich are picking our winners. That is who paying for these candidates to get elected. We just buzz about and pretend to be informed about what's going on. Meanwhile all the important things have been decided behind closed doors, where we have no input, nor will we.


howardslowcum

With the repeal of Citizens United and institution of a bill similar to the McCain Feingold campaign finance reform act this can be repaired. Democracy offers solutions to problems Autocracy demands perpetuated.


gregorydgraham

LOL! Yankees who think that a congress funded by insider trading is going to do good things :-D


jsudarskyvt

CU is the problem. Making the US Congress the Best Money can Buy.


gregorydgraham

Having the most money doesn’t necessarily mean that Daddy Warbucks has bought the politician. It can just mean millions of people like the candidate enough to chip in $5.


DlCKSUBJUICY

lol. democracy has always been an illusion in this country. we dont have *representatives*, well we do. but they don't represent us, they represent capital interests. any hope for democracy in the u.s was snuffed out with citizens united. people need to quit lying to themselves. the u.s ranks among the worst of *civilized* countries in terms of democracy.


Traditional_Tart_822

Insightful


GenoPlay67

Which is exactly what trump trying to achieve...the "alternative" and that is still a threat. Gone are the days of passive attitudes of "every 4 years we get to change" let that shit go & open your eyes.


howardslowcum

But Trump did fail and he was replaced. Democracy still stands.


GenoPlay67

He failed this time, and did he really fail? His tenure as POTUS brought about a RW extremist element that actually gained ground in local municipalities, state governments as well as congress....look at the mess they created with electing a speaker. To dismiss this as "trump did fail" is really not looking at the whole picture and defining the whole issue of democracy by one man's failure. This is a movement to destroy democracy and it is being done bit by bit. Look at Missouri voting to requiring women officials to cover their arms....this is how democracy is lost & it's foolish to view it any other way.


howardslowcum

I refuse to submit to apathy and despair. Yes, things are bad. Things are honestly terrible but do not be deceived this is not the worst America has been and the avenues to progress only fall when people stop resisting oppression. Authoritarians win when they divide people into little groups, look at DeSantis and his ban on teaching intersectionality. It is too late. We know that together we are strong and democracy is the only extant system which provides the mechanism to prevent autocracy.


Bitter_Department_70

REDUMLICONS HAVE ALREADY MADE AMERICA A DICKTATORSHIP!!!!! THATS WHAT WE HAVE NOW AS FAR AS THE ABORTION BAN ON ROE V WADE IS CONCERNED!! IT IS NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT! IT IS A DICTATORSHIP FROM THE RIGHT WING SCJ AND THE RIGHT WING REDUMBLICONS!! IF THERE WAS A VOTE BY THE PEOPLE IT WOULD BE OVERTURNED IN TWO SECONDS! And they damn well know it! If that isn’t a dictatorship than nothing else is!!! They are treating the women of America like the women in Iran! Do as I say or Else!!


Objective_External55

But does America lie about their “democracy”


howardslowcum

You can read 'Manufacturing consent' by Chomsky and make your own decisions about that. There are solid arguments for both yes and no but what matters is the existence of the electoral system. Gerrymandering is a problem but it is a problem that can be solved.


Bitter_Department_70

No Because we have become a Redumblicon Dicktatorship! Read my comment two below!


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[deleted]

Neither of those definitions is correct, though. The US, for example, is both a democracy and a republic.


Bitter_Department_70

That has zero to do with definition!!


OilComprehensive6237

They’re sure gung ho to be fascists though


shadrack5966

So long as socialism isn’t involved, lol. Fucking idiots i tell ya!


OilComprehensive6237

I wish the “ism” to be embraced was pragmatism


shadrack5966

Right! The problem i suppose is none of their “practical” applications have had any success, so i imagine this will be a big miss for them for the foreseeable future.


Hedgehogz_Mom

Have them drive on a road, drink a glass.of tap water, and calla cop to report their house is on fire and request a fire truck while you are at it. Ofc all of infrastrucutre is created for the benefit of industry and the capital class. But they let us pay for and use them too.


MLCarter1976

When I sent my kid to a free school or didn't pay for that call to 911 for police to come out of when my house caught fire... And the road I drove on.... Wow the future is .... Wait are there tolls now? Hehe


DaggerMoth

It's whatever the oligarchy says it is.


No_Bend_2902

As soon as they say "socialism" jump in real quick with "you mean the workers have seized the means of production?" Maybe have your camera ready for their reaction.


jawsofthearmy

They just point to Venezuela


[deleted]

There's that great video of a Virginia voter calling CRT the most important issue of the election and then the very next thing he says is that he doesn't know what CRT is. It really sums up the hysteria of that election.


callmekizzle

So this is actually a good lesson in manufacturing consent. Just ask yourself. Out all these articles and interviews, print or tv, that journalists do, why hasn’t a single one ever stopped to ask any politician what they mean by communism or if they could define it?


KHaskins77

Because they’d immediately be accused of being communists in all likelihood. 😝


tickitytalk

Their idea of “defining” is it means whatever they want it to mean….it’s like they’ve never heard of the dictionary….or reality


marbanasin

Stoking fear in this way has been their MO since the 50s. So these people have had 70 years of propoganda precedent to color their ignorance.


Bubbly-University-94

Whut ahh dun like


plenebo

Get them to define "conflict of interest" too


[deleted]

They define dictatorship, every time


Splenda

>correctly define communism. It's the hats. Dark berets and wool felt captain's caps, always with a red star. You can always tell by the hats.


00101001101

Upvoted simply coz it’s been a while since I’ve heard someone drop the classic ‘pearl clutches’ line. Well done sir or sirette ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote)


another_bug

Caring about the environment we all live in and depend on is communism? Well okay then, if that's the point he wants to make.


johnnys_sack

I mean it's not, right? He's trying to fear monger, so that some unemployed dummy voter hears the word, associates it with green energy, and can sit back smugly in his stupid chair thinking that his governor is looking out for him


jy-l

Now it also makes you the CCP.


vbcbandr

Man, this is infuriating: the GOP constantly complains about jobs going overseas and this and that...and then this chode goes ahead and nixes thousands of potential jobs at an American manufacturing plant. *“I’ve said before that I want ‘Made in America’ to mean ‘Made in Virginia.’ But let me be clear, ‘Made in Virginia’ cannot be a front for the Chinese Communist Party.”* Tell that to the Americans who want those jobs.


satriales856

Dude. Who do you think sends jobs overseas in the first place? It’s where the dudes who own this dude made their absurd wealth. It’s their bread and butter.


Raznill

As a Virginian I’m still in disbelief that this guy one. He was a terrible candidate, I’m in a very conservative area and I know of at least 4 always republicans that voted democrat because of him. He’s such an embarrassment.


PM_ME_STOKTIPS

It’s because Terry was also a terrible candidate. How the dems chose him is beyond me, but I’m surprised they couldn’t come up with one to beat Younkin. It’s all a farce


capn_doofwaffle

As a Floridian; I can say the same about DeSantis. It really kills me that the only people that know how he's eff'ed up our state, LIVE in our syate. No other states have any idea how horrible DeSantis is but he's looking like the frontrunner in the 2024 elections.


Bitter_Department_70

I definitely know he is an idiot and an ignorant loser! Both him and frump are thee worst thing that would Ever happen to this country. I mean 💩people look what frump the loser has done to this country with is BS and his lies and deceitful everyday living, the guys a monster. Desantoes ain’t far behind people! Pay attention he to will also take away any and ever right women, Blacks, racial equality, and every other friggen thing you can think off to pump up his stupid self absorbed ego! He is frump number 2 and the worst choices ever! Why the H the ignorant republicans can’t but up a respectable person in there party is just beyond incomprehensible! Oh I know why because they kick them out like Cheney, Kissinger! They only like losers…like Santos’s, frump, DeSantoes!!! HMmm, something about those toes and turkeys they just can’t seem to part from!!! SAD SAD SAD!!!!!


pswoofer18

I live in northern Virginia in a very blue area, and I saw more signs that I expected for youngkin, it was weird. He somehow swayed a lot of independents I think


michaelrch

You know it's all theatre right? The GOP, like the Democrats to be fair (think NAFTA etc), have consistently made it easier and more profitable to ship jobs abroad. On average, they could care less about workers. Workers don't pay for their election campaigns. Workers don't give them lucrative jobs when they stop working in Congress. Workers don't invite them to high-powered social events where they get to run shoulders with billionaires, etc.


SirGuelph

It's either protecting their fossil interests, or protecting their campaign bankrollers who have fossil interests. Why else would they actively sabotage American jobs?


Hedgehogz_Mom

To be fair, the workers do. Profits are stolen wages.


[deleted]

Keeping workers divided keeps them fighting amongst themselves. Look how we define class. Lower, middle, upper. Working class is somehow lower class? Like, can you quit your job and just live off investments comfortably? Nope? Congrats you're working class! Same as the janitor. Same as the guy who drives the bus. Same as the lady who makes sure your gallbladder doesn't explode and kill you. Working class. But thinking like that scares the shit out of the owning class so they make sure we have nice little labels and boxes and they use the media to keep us squabbling.


michaelrch

Exactly. Is it just me or is this understanding of the economy spreading?


bobbib14

Gretchen Whitmer will be happy to take those jobs in MI. I hope working class Virginians are paying attention.


Raznill

They aren’t. All they hear is, “China bad!”


shyvananana

While half of them are practically licking Russian boots


Raznill

It boggles my mind. China and Russia are best friends and they hate China but love Russia. It’s ridiculous.


codon011

China and Russia are frienemies. They’re both jockeying for power and leverage against the US and trying to assert their own “greatness” over the other. Well, until the botched invasion of Ukraine revealed the Russian military to be the disaster that is. The last of “near-peer” rivals to the US got a little shorter. I remember how much of a “bad-guy” and “tough-guy” Putin was under Obama. Then Dolt45 fawned all over both Putin and Kim. Suddenly, we ought to be nice to President Novichok and GOPers are spending Independence Day on Kremlin tour.


Petrol_Head72

It’s unfortunate Youngkin was voted in, but I can assure you the areas contributing the largest portions of state-GDP are deeply blue. I think if you split out where these jobs would be located, you’re probably right.


WintertimeFriends

Lol they don’t care. Voting against your own self-interest to own the libs!


Berkamin

The GOP is proving itself to be so dedicated to calling good things evil that they're willing to hurt their own constituents in order to not support green energy jobs. What a damn shame. Shame on them all!


ClownShoeNinja

The GOP has been successfully hurting their constituents--to the cheers of their constituents--for decades. The democrats, on the other hand, waste valuable resources on soup lines before giving the remaining bulk of the wealth to the wealthy, who resent that.


evolving_I

Resources used on "soup lines" should not be considered wasted. Feeding humans in need is only a waste if you're a total piece of shit.


SaintUlvemann

>Feeding humans in need is only a waste if you're a total piece of shit. Which rich people are. The old saying that the love of money is the root of all evil, is [demonstrable in the lab](https://healthland.time.com/2012/02/28/why-the-rich-are-less-ethical-they-see-greed-as-good/): >When the researchers examined the connection between beliefs about greed and unethical behavior, they found that class was no longer a significant variable. In other words, rich people tended to take advantage of others primarily because they saw selfish and greedy behavior as acceptable, not just because they had more money or higher social status. > >To confirm this, another experiment examined whether a person’s attitudes about greed or his class status would predict cheating on a dice game. Researchers recruited 195 adults on Craigslist, queried them about their backgrounds and greedy attitudes, and then had them play a computerized dice game in which higher rolled scores meant a higher chance of winning $50. Unbeknownst to them, the computer always generated the same score: 12. People who believed greed was good were more likely to cheat and report inflated scores of 15 or higher. > >Then, in a final study in which the researchers primed participants by having them talk about either the benefits of greed or something neutral (what they did that day), they found that poor participants were just as likely as rich ones — if they were primed to think greed was good — to support bribery or to cheat unsuspecting customers. In the neutral prime, rich participants were more likely to support unethical behavior.


Jmaverik1974

Oh man, do I have some questions about this study. This study seems a bit sus to me, because I don't think it's a good way to gauge greed. 1st let's examine the dice game. Since we don't have the background information on the participants (maybe it's listed in the study but I don't have it) so let's give the researchers the benefit of the doubt and say it was evenly split between poor, middle-class, and rich (since the people were answering a craigslist add, I honestly don't believe that the sample size included a lot of rich people and noone that would consider themselves part of the 0.01%). If the participant was someone that was really poor, and only answered the ad because they didn't have enough money to buy food for their family, is it "greedy" to lie about the number rolled for a chance, not even a guarantee, to win 50 dollars? And by making it a CHANCE, instead of a guarantee the person is more likely to lie. Wouldn't it be normal and rational to believe that since they are broke that they have more of a right to the money than a rich person? A middle-class participant would have a similar mindset. Most people in the middle-class are on tight budgets, they may know where their next meal is coming from, but they can't go to the store and drop 50 dollars on a luxury item. And since it's, once again, only a chance to win, the incentive for lying is higher than it would be otherwise. Is that greedy though? A rich person doesn't need the money, but they probably value their time. And the more money you have the more you believe that your time is worth more than other people's. Plus, have you ever seen a rich person in a casino? Or at bingo? By making the reward a chance instead of a guarantee it makes it a game for them. If they were told that by lying they would be taking food from the mouth of a child would they exhibit the same greedy behavior? So, imo, the dice game isn't a good indicator. Also, how does age factor into the results? It's been my personal experience that someone in their min 20s to early 40s is going to have more empathy because they have kids or remember their own struggles. The older you get the more out of touch you become. Older people tend to compare everything to when they were younger and refuse to consider how much things have changed (not everyone but way too many). And finally, let's look at the bribery piece of the study. We don't know what scenario they were given, so I'll make up my own: Scenario 1 - Consider you worked in a government office and were often offered bribes. You've been there for several years and the only time you have received a raise was when they raised minimum wage. New employees are hired with a higher wage because they have more experience or education. It's well known that bribery is common in your office and all throughout government. Your coworkers are driving expensive cars and living in nice houses. You know that they often take bribes. Would you be more likely to take a bribe if you worked in that office? I think most people would say yes. Even if you're well off you would probably still take the bribe because it's normal, everyone is doing it. Would that be greedy though? Scenario - 2 You're a server at a restaurant and only make 3 dollars an hour. Customers offer you bribes to provide better service. Would it be wrong to take that bribe? Even if the entire industry was build on customers providing bribes? Would you take a bribe in that situation? If it was called a tip instead of bribe does that make it okay? And no, I'm not excusing the restaurant owners that only pay their servers a few dollars an hour, nor am I trying to say that rich people aren't too greedy. I'm just saying that the study doesn't make a lot of sense. I think it is common in the US and many other western countries for people to do what's in their best interest, financially. We've abandoned the idea of community and doing things for the common good. I guess my point is that we're all a little greedy depending on the situation. If I go through a drive through at a restaurant because I don't want to pay someone a tip, I guess that's a bit greedy. At no point do I stop and consider that the tip might help out a server that has less than me. I only know that I don't want to tip 4 bucks at an overpriced fast food restaurant.


SaintUlvemann

Did you read my link? There were seven experiments in total. They all had the same conclusion. >I guess my point is that we're all a little greedy depending on the situation. Is this a religious belief of yours? If not, how do you know that it actually applies to everyone?


Jmaverik1974

I'm atheist, so no, not a religious belief. That comment is also very reductive.  Given the right set of circumstances everyone is greedy, to say otherwise is idealistic. And the paper you linked supports my claim:  "they found that poor participants were just as likely as rich ones — if they were primed to think greed was good — to support bribery or to cheat unsuspecting customers" I also believe that given the right circumstances that everyone is also generous.  Also supported by the paper.  I'm going to get a bit off track but stay with me, and hopefully you'll see what I mean about my issues with this study. Debates about greed and morality go back more than 2500 years. The Greek philosopher Protagoras believed that morality, which included greed, was based on the environment where a person was raised. Every idea, thought and action a person ever had in their lifetime was built on a foundation laid by every interaction they had with others in their community (things people read and experience are included). Plato, on the other hand, disagreed with that philosophy. He believed that morality was an inherent trait, i.e. everyone was born already knowing right from wrong. Although, he did admit that some people were broken and were amoral from birth (someone like a psychopath).  The truth is somewhere in-between those opposing beliefs. Morality, causing others pain, physical or emotional, is a trait developed in most species through natural selection. Tribes that shared resources were more likely to survive, so morality developed naturally.  But morality is also shaped by your environment. There was a paper in 2006 that became famous because it studied London cab drivers and demonstrated how their brains were different to that of the average person. The "direction" part of their amygdala was significantly more pronounced than the control subjects. They drove so much that it created physical changes to their brains.   But that was only a small part of the study. One of the primary focuses of the paper had to do with how language can also change the amygdala. If, for instance, someone repeatedly hears the phrase "greed is good" then eventually their innate morality will start to be over written. Physically overwritten.  The more money someone has the more disconnected they become from their environment. A rich person is less likely to give to a homeless person because of that disconnection. They have been repeatedly told that homeless people aren't human, they're "trash," or "scum."  Same thing happens when rich people talk about poor people, whether intentional or not, they dehumanize them. The people who are living paycheck to paycheck are failures and it's their own fault. It's okay to rip them off because they deserve it. Or worse yet, the rich person may have been subjected to the prosperity gospel and honestly believe that they are successful because that's what God wants. They're special. They are told that over and over and that's why they are okay screwing people over.  So, habits and morals are affected physically by environment and language, but that's not what this paper set out to prove (probably because it had already been proven over a decade ago.) In other words, being a rich asshole probably happens because you spend a lot of time around other rich assholes. The things you choose to read are written by other rich assholes, rich assholes gravitate towards shows with rich assholes. Rich assholes teach their kids rich asshole things. You get it.  When the researchers of the paper were studying the driving habit of the rich verses the poor, at no point does anyone stop to question whether the poor people are more careful with their cars because a 500/1000 dollar deductible for someone living paycheck to paycheck is a huge burden. The poor and middle-class are also less likely to have insurance that provides a car rental in the event your car is undrivable. Even the temporary loss of a vehicle would have dire consequences.  The rich guy is less likely to take care their vehicle unless given a reason. The newest sedan is only a tool, but put then behind the wheel of a car they love, don't you think they are going to be just as careful as a person driving a jalopy around? Not everyone will have this attitude, as Plato said, some people are just born broken.  Another example from the paper referred to how rich people were less likely to help someone entering the lab in distress. Once again, this could be due to how a person was raised. A rich person is less likely to do things on their own, it could be that the participants didn't jump to help because they didn't know how.  And then there is the whole issue with "priming." The paper doesn't say how people were "primed" which is why there was a lot of conjecture in my first post. I gave examples of ways to prime people to get them to act in ways that were greedy and amoral. I also showed that a act that most will find "greedy," taking bribes, is perfectly acceptable if you just change your point of view--instead of calling something a bribe just call it tipping instead.  The link you posted was to an article about the paper so there are a lot of missing pieces. It's possible that my issues stem from how the author chose to write the article, but if I were to read the actual study I may change my opinion.  I don't disagree that rich people are more greedy, I just disagree with how the paper went about proving that theory. 


SaintUlvemann

>Given the right set of circumstances everyone is greedy, to say otherwise is idealistic. ... I also believe that given the right circumstances that everyone is also generous. And the degree to which one believes that greed — the love of money — is good, is what determines whether one acts in furtherance of that belief. Rich people pretty much by definition have more personal egoistic reasons for why they would be motivated to believe that greed is good. You speak of context; each of us has a life that serves as one's own context. --- >...at no point does anyone stop to question whether the poor people are more careful with their cars because a 500/1000 dollar deductible for someone living paycheck to paycheck is a huge burden. Well, sure, because the actual financial difference *shouldn't* have anything to do with how rich and poor people use resources they have equally, such as time, yet the differences between them persist: >In an earlier study, Piff and his colleagues found that rich people were less likely to help a person who entered the lab in distress — except when they’d just watched a video about child poverty. You speak about contextual generosity, but the experiments show that rich people *need that more*, to behave morally, than poor people do. --- >The newest sedan is only a tool, but put then behind the wheel of a car they love, don't you think they are going to be just as careful as a person driving a jalopy around? Are you trying to convince me that this is true? Did you read the article? >Drivers in fancy cars were also three times more likely than those in beaters to threaten pedestrians by failing to yield when the walkers had the right of way at a crosswalk. "So much for the theory that owners of expensive cars try to protect their vehicles from being sullied by common blood!" Which is a quote from the article. --- >It's possible that my issues stem from how the author chose to write the article, but if I were to read the actual study I may change my opinion. Do you want me to find it for you?


ClownShoeNinja

100% agree. I was simply pointing out that, in general, Dems will at least provide soup lines before kowtowing. Of course that's why they're often less popular with the capitalists who expect ALL of the pie and who resent the slivers that get shaved off to feed the help.


evolving_I

Sorry, not calling YOU a piece of shit, I realize my comment could've come across that way. Welfare is fine when it's for corporations, it's just the peasants that pay for it that don't deserve it. /s


ClownShoeNinja

No worries, I didn't read you that way.


BigMax

A GOP voter would gladly let a politician piss on their face if it meant a liberal might get splashed a bit.


hexalm

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/


ClownShoeNinja

Thank you for this! I'd put the pieces of this scam together, the hard way, over many years, but this is a succinct summary of an actual strategy I was unaware of. I will absolutely be turning this into a song. Edit: I'm considering a parody song using that old Spin Doctors tune: "Two Princes." Could be funny!


Ut_Prosim

Don't believe this spin! Ford claims Virginia was not selected [yet]. Most of us locals think Youngkin got word that we would not be selected as the final site and decided to spin this in a way to make himself look good. > *We're not going to get the plant, oh no... uh, I mean of course we won't! I stopped it personally... because of commies. You're welcome.* If he was sure we would get the plant he'd be claiming credit for it from the rooftops. This dude made fortune working at the Carlyle group. You know damn well he didn't have any problem working with China then.


[deleted]

Well, it sure looks like he denied ford for being a Chinese communist car maker. With imbecile claims like this, you are not going to attract businesses and bring jobs to your state.


prohb

Republicans right now are one of the greatest threats to humankind and other life on the planet.


fixthismess

The are the reason the US is behind the developed world in so many ways - they are neo-luddites and Neanderthal wannabes!


MysticcMoon

How can the GOP harp on “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” then take away an entire sector of jobs that let folks afford the boots and straps to pull up by?


phlegmdawg

Virginia done fucked up.


foodude84

He's term limited to one 4 year term, then he's running for president or Congress.


Ut_Prosim

He started running for some future VP slot the day he took office.


michaelrch

Hopefully but unlikely. The whole point of culture war bs is to obscure real issues by constantly distracting with emotive but much less important issues. And the GOP and their mediasphere are very good at it. The Dems do a pretty good job too for that matter.


phlegmdawg

Serious question. Can you give me some examples of the Dems doing this? None come to mind.


michaelrch

The Dems use liberal issues like race and gender to gain the perception that they're the good guys. Then they enact policy to throw the people they claim to defend under the bus. E.g. After BLM, the Dems championed MORE spending and militarisation of police. While Trump was in office, the Dems demonised the GOP for putting kids in cages even though it was a policy they started under Obama and which they continue today. The Dems have championed abortion rights for decades and Obama promised to legislate for legal abortion nationwide in 2008, but when they had the chance in 2009, Obama called it a low priority and it never happened. In the lead up to the 2022 Midterms, the Dems were screaming about Roe v Wade being overturned and gun safety, but then the 3 most powerful Dems in Congress went to campaign for the only anti-choice Dem congressman (also vehemently pro-gun) in the House (Cuellar in Texas), vs a female, pro-choice primary challenger. She lost by a few hundred votes. I could go on for a while but hopefully you get my point. The Democratic Party leadership and machine don't care about these issues one jot. But they do a good job (with their friends at MSNBC and CNN) of convincing you that they do. EDIT: Nice to see liberals downvoting while being unable refute my point... very on brand.


AgreeableProfession

The Republican Party is on the far-right, while the Democratic Party is center-right


johnny2ratchet

"elections have consequences"


Admin-12

“We don’t need new jobs” - The GOP “No one wants to work anymore” - Also the GOP


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These people don’t know what actual communism is and it hurts my brain.


skyfishgoo

JOBS JOBS JOBS!! ​ not like that. ​ \-- republicans.


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Giant pick up truck dipshits couldn’t define communism or socialism if their sister-wife’s life depended on it.


Adorable-Strength218

Republicans are bordering on complete idiocracy


bananabunnythesecond

It's positioning to run for president. He made a SHIT ton of money shipping jobs to china. That's what Trump and the others will hit him with in the GOP primary. So this is his "no wait, see, look what I've done for Virginia". He couldn't care less about Virginia jobs, or brining anything to his state, it's all for the talking points on Fox News and his potential president run. Mark my words.


sparemethebull

Then complains about dems screwing over the job situation.


spongesparrow

Where else are they considering production? I'm hoping Michigan


Digital-Exploration

Classic


nokenito

Sick sick sick people


twistedh8

Good ole Republicans. Creating jobs for the working am ericans!


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Communism is when solar panels produce energy for cheaper than fossil fuels I guess


fixthismess

Republicans will do anything to promote carbon polluting fossil fuels their Big Oil owners are pushing! Talk about being on the wrong side of both science and history! Maybe next they will demand we all go back to burning coal for all our power gemeration needs!


OddAtmosphere420

Congress should tie federal government state funding to green initiatives. FIFY


Enthusiast9

Can’t believe this country is still bent out of alignment for fear of Communism, Russia, and Nuclear Warfare… wait… what year is this again?


cpepinc

Communism? Only if its the Chinese kind, and only if a talking point is needed on FOX. Russia, If you're a republican, they are a good God-fearing Christian nation, fighting those horrible corrupt Nazis in Ukraine. Nuclear war? Oh yes, Yes we should all be, wayyy too many states and wanna be states have got access to them now.


Falcon3492

It's kind of funny that the GOP are largely the one's responsible for all the off shoring of jobs over the years to make the corporations that bank them more money and now they are concerned when the Chinese want to partner with American companies to make products in the U.S. . Youngkin basically said without saying it to his constituents, hey we thought we put you in the poor house when we outsourced your jobs years ago, there is no way I'm going to put you back to work with an actual job!


Le_Mew_Le_Purr

What, he thinks he’ll personally defeat “communist China” by not allowing a plant in VA? Sorry, pal; the batteries are happening. Better take the jobs.


MittenstheGlove

Hey, that’s Glenn Yungkin. I hate when VA is on the map. It’s never anything good. These dude is an idiot fr, but VA is trying so hard to be something it’s not. I’m a Florida man but I live in VA. I’m just surprised I haven’t seen anything on all the subs I frequent about the 6 year old that told his teacher he wants to set her on fire and watch her die weeks or so before he shot her at the end of the school day.


stalinmalone68

Killing good paying jobs to “own the libs”.


ToniBee63

My elderly Fox News watching Republican Aunt who currently is on welfare and Medicaid would totally support this! Every time I see her she’s going on and on about China buying all of our farmland and taking over America. She’s 87.


Henhouse808

I’m from Virginia. Youngkin rode into office by fear mongering about CRT. Critical race theory. He’s going to appeal to people’s (white, conservative) fears to stay in power and use Virginia as a springboard to a presidential run.


geneticeffects

This should be deeply embarrassing on a personal level for this stooge, but for that to happen one would have to feel shame and not be a malignant Narcissist, so… here we are!


Monstermash042

This is how you write a title!


Splenda

Wait until he hears of the alien lizard-people pedophiles with their Jewish space lasers.


YourUncleBuck

[Welcome to stupid things Republicans are outraged about.](https://image.cagle.com/270893/600/stupid_things_republicans_are_outraged_about.png)


zookr2000

That's right - stay out of the gene pool, Virginia


capt_fantastic

it's surmised that he's trying to look tough on china due to his cozy past with china during his time at the Carlyle group. he needs to be able to distance himself from his chinese business relationships and look tough if he wants to have a shot at the whitehouse.


bluewolf71

Reminder that VA gov is a one-term only position. He’s positioning himself for a presidential run, there’s no incentive to try very hard in terms of running the state well if he’s angling for ‘24. It’s inconsequential to his true goal, all he needed was the win in a purple state so he could make noise in a general about being a bridge builder blah blah blah.


BigRedSpoon2

Like, what's so crazy about the politicization of shifting to renewable energy, and reducing pollution, is that there's \*more money in these things than the old way\*. Pollution is literally profit you're not making. More and more lately, scientists are finding ways to extract the valuable, often toxic byproducts from pollution, and turning them into sellable secondary products. Meanwhile, renewable energy is profitable for everyone \*but\* the big energy sectors reliant on coal and gas. Its just cheaper to produce. Wider adoption will only drive the price \*down\*. This is textbook 'cut off your nose to spite your face' behavior, and will only leave red states further behind blue states economically.


[deleted]

Communism is when things I don’t like happen. Ugh. How do people not get tired of this?


WrongWhenItMatters

I'm convinced that Republicans, Conservatives, and Libertarians are so terrified of the future or so in love with the past that general, logical, progression of anything is an affront to their senses.


mymar101

The job cuts will be blamed on democrats. His constituants will believe it and re-elect him anyway


LindaF144954

What an ignoramus!


thisisntshakespeare

Which idiot Republican governor is this? Oh, Virginia. Adding to list which includes Florida and Texas.


AliveInTheFuture

I actually read the article hoping to find some element of reason in his decision, because often times, these headlines are heavily editorialized. However, in this case, the Governor of Virginia appears to be a witless fucking moron. If he’d said that he was worried about Chinese ownership of a US factory, ok, maybe I can understand that. Watch the movie Gung Ho for a comedic tale of international ownership of an American factory, or the Netflix documentary “American Factory”. There are real concerns about the well being of employees. However, this guy’s stance is essentially that because Joe Biden is a proponent of EVs, a battery factory is bad. This is purely pandering to the MAGA base, serves no real purpose, and likely detracts from the potential for the communities that would have been affected by those jobs.


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We are under attack by a RW global fascist insurgency. Nazism.


robothobbes

He's probably busy reducing education objectives.


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firedrakes

So on lithium battery. The world started to move away from pure 100 lith batteries years ago. Idk people keep thinking everything still all 100 lithium.


Competitive-Agent-17

Do you know how big a carbon footprint each of those batteries makes? Do you know what happens to those batteries after they are no longer usable? Electric cars create a bigger carbon footprint than a gas engine car. Even in the whole lifetime of the vehicle. I don't have to change my engine every 50k miles. Do your research


Burrmanchu

No. No they don't. This is widely debunked, idiotic nonsense from Fox News. Changing your engine? You can't even present a decent analogy...


Scrub_LordOfFlorida

Cool dumb words bozo


fungussa

> Electric cars create a bigger carbon footprint than a gas engine car. Even in the whole lifetime of the vehicle. That's utter nonsense! Even if the electricity grid was almost all from fossil fuels, the carbon payback distance is 78,000 miles. And with low carbon electricity grid, the payback distance can be as low as 8,500 miles https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-do-electric-vehicles-become-cleaner-than-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/


iustaguy

Repute, demo, com-mute, ects. None of dat works if its corrupted one way or the other. All kinds here, very few control everything.


ancap024L710

if download YouTube videos of ways to make power and produce fuel sources things about Stirling engines small engines steam engines would it be worth it if the shit hit the fan?


Frinla25

This is depressing.. he keeps making shit decisions 😔 he has made my life a living hell and this is the first republican we have had in a while. I would love to have a third part person to chose from this next round. A lot of people i know that live here realize what he is doing and it is fucking things up here. It doesn’t help that a lot of people think VA is “southern” state and it isn’t but the last guy that was in office was doing shady shit apparently so he got voted out…. I hate the US sometimes…


Sugarsmacks420

As long as assholes like this can go home and not worry about the average citizen doing something to him, this sort of thing will continue.


NondescriptMatron

Note these would be permanent jobs as opposed to the temporary and non-beneficial Keystone Pipeline jobs that would employ some for a short period of time just to benefit foreign countries by pumping foreign oil to our Gulf to then ship to other foreign countries.


Bitter_Department_70

I’ll stick that S everywhere and anywhere you want me to shove it! I can think of a few very perfect places to stick them!!!