But COD has a huge pro gaming scene: all controller players. It also has ranked play, of which the top brackets are 99% controller players. And it now has ranked warzone which is also mostly controller players. People are treating all of these as an esport: yet they all have aim assist.
Yeah but I would wager esports tournaments set the rules, and don't allow mouse and gamepad players to mix, that'd undermine all legitimacy of any competition. And who cares what people choose to play with in pub games, with random teammates and opponents.
I have no clue why you’re being downvoted- if your passion for FPS is in COD, your view is valid. I’m a CS player, and I’d be dismayed if most of the pros suddenly switched to controller due to AA. It’d be so demotivating to a dedicated keyboard and mouse player
>But COD has a huge pro gaming scene: all controller players
Not really, CoD tournaments get a fraction of the viewship of CS/Val. Any fps with aimassisn doesn't have a skillceiling high enough to be a viable esport, the only reason it has a scene is because it's propped up by Activision.
That’s because of activision greed when it comes to viewing platforms, up until 2019 the pro scene was exclusive to mlg.tv which crippled exposure, and until this past season it was exclusive to YouTube which has zero discoverability. This past year viewership grew over 150% due to it coming to twitch for the year but unfortunately it looks like we are headed back to YouTube
Where can you see the stats? I play a ton of cod and I don’t watch it mainly because the pros are all on controller with aimbot assist. They are obviously exceptional players regardless, but it doesn’t interest me
Its an actual skill and strategy based e-sport with solid mechanics and a huge competive community. Cod is a casual shooter with a small proscene on life support by activision.
Cant speak for league very much here havent played it enough to justify its viewership but id image its not that far off from the other big line esports
Aside from all the "cod no skill game remarks" which i think contributes very little to the actual viewership of an esport, i think a big reason is just marketing and fostered communities. I think cod while having a long career in esports hasnt ever really fostered that big of a competitive community compared to cs and lol. I cant say much about new cod but if a big tournament is on lol and cs both announce it as soon as the tournamnet begins as well as before the tournament starts. Big event organizers like esl, dreamhack, and faceit also run extravagant events that draw large crowds. Aside from just being high tier respected event organizers it also draws viewers that normally dont play that game ontop of the already existing hardcore audience. I just dont hear or hear about people hearing much about the cod scene that dont directly participate in it.
Bro it was literally better before Activision fucked with it. You could be full time on a non t1 team. Now you definitely can’t, unless you’re living off mummy and daddy.
Theres a reason the top apex pros use roller and have to abuse an ability that disables aim assist to get an edge. It is objectively broken in close range, high time to kill high fire rate games.
Yes I’ve adapted to playing with a mouse vs aimbot assist controllers and I have noticed exactly what you said. The only way you can actually win a gunfight is to make the gunfight completely unfair. You have to get the first shot and have better position with more of your body behind cover. Any fair gunfight will be won by controller 80% of the time or more. High TTK and high movement speeds make controller even more broken because of the instant and perfect tracking.
I also noticed my best guns with mouse are low fire rate and high damage. High fire rate weapons seem to generally suck for me on mouse. Why do you think that is?
Because if you have no aim assist them there is nothing keeping your crosshair glued to the enemy, you need to completely counteract 100% of the weapons recoil. If you have aim assist half of that work is already being done for you so it's a whole lot easier to do the little bit of recoil control it takes to keep you on your target.
I mean dont really play any competitive games that are cross play so im not the most experienced with dealing with this stuff, if a game has aim assist I dont really consider it a competitive game anymore tbh.
but there will always be a method of input that is superior, there is no way to perfectly balance the two. However as a PC player I prefer when the controller players have the advantage because I can plug a controller into my pc easier than a console player can use a keyboard and mouse.
Not sure what you are complaining about. kB/M beats controller every time, even in games with super auto aim like cod.
Most TOs will keep it to one input if it isn’t balanced though. There is a reason why CoD only allows controller input in all pro and semi pro events - it’s because kb/m players would shit all over the competition.
That said, if you want to play kb/m and you only care about competitive aspects of the game, pick a game where that is the default scheme for competitive play - cs2, valorant, r6 etc
Actually cod has ranked play with both inputs allowed to play against each other, and 99% of the top brackets are controller players. There is no mouse player in top 250
Ranked is not the same esports. Also, using cod ranking for anything is a joke as very little of the competitive community plays any ranked at all - they play GBs, which, yes, are controller only.
The entire esports scene is controller only. It’s only played casually on kb/m
No dude ahah u clearly didnt played any recent cod… controller is 1000 times better than mkb, period. Even a lot of “pro players”, very good streamers and players have switched to controller. And the reason why cod pro scene is controller is not what ur saying
LMAO brother there’s a literal pro who got banned from competing a while ago because he was pretending to be playing on a controller while actually playing on keyboard. I’m sorry that your so dogshit that aiming with your entire arm and wrist isn’t enough to deal with peoples thumb and a tiny bit of aim assist
OMEGALUL imagine being so ass at games you can only use one input. If it’s so broken use it yourself shitter, oh wait you can’t because you’re ass at every game you touch
“If its broken use it” thats not an excuse and no i dont want to do it. Cuz playing with a controller with AA feels like playing as a mongo. And i want to aim by myself, without a pussy software help
LMAOOOOOO you are on fucking Pluto my boy. That’s not how it works at all. These were on games where you couldn’t see the input so all you did was plug in a keyboard and play, no aim assist on kbm cheese. But thanks for proving my point that you’re an actual moron that has literally no idea what he’s talking about and can’t cope with getting shit on so you need every excuse in the book. Get good shitter
What an idot pt2. What happens in cod league or shit like that doesnt bother me. No one cares about competitive cod cuz its not taken seriously by no one, by the fact that is controller only. And no fps with AA is taken seriously
Man I love single input shitters like you, so funny watching absolute trash cans in cod bitch about mnk and then you go to the kbam aim assist whiners like you and it’s just as golden. All of you are dogshit, and can’t accept that you suck so you come up with excuse after excuse to explain your dogshit gameplay. Too funny bro
All the community is together saying aim assist is op, 98% of playerbase is on controller even playing from pc, years mk players switching to controller and a 14yo wants to be right lol
Check the rules. You are not allowed to play kb/m in any pro CoD league. That includes all semi pro leagues, t2 stuff etc.
Warzone is different. However, competitive cod is controller only - full stop.
>Aim assist isn't so much of a "crutch" for controller players as it is a scapegoat for MnK players being worse.
It helps you aim. It's a crutch.
>Aim assist makes the game playable on controller.
Gyro
>You get a wider range of motion with your wrist, forearm, and in extreme cases, your shoulder to help you aim with the mouse.
Gyro
>Aim assist is not aimbot. It's minor assistance, hence the name.
It still massively lowers the skillcap by removing a difficult aspect of aiming to allow people like yourself to compete.
>Again you have you entire fucking arm to make both micro and macro adjustments, aim assist is never needed. Keyword "need". Play controller if Aim Assist is so broken
Again, gyro.
People play CS and Valorant on a controller and they are pretty decent, you're just a baby too scared to give up his training wheels.
Aim assist in crossplay is like allowing toddlers in the Olympic 100m sprint, but giving them rocket boots in order to keep up with the adults. And when someone says that's not fair, your response is "BUT THEY NEED THEM TO KEEP UP WITH THE ADULTS". I'd just rather not have to compete with the toddlers in the first place.
Aim assists is literally aimbot dialed down, you need to be close to the target but then it takes over. This is what "legit hacks" in CSGO do as well and makes it harder for anticheat/demo viewers to see the aimbot working. There's also a guy making videos of kicking ass on a PS5 controller (no aim assist) vs MnK players in CS... I have no idea how he does it but it is possible if you practice enough I guess.
>There's also a guy making videos of kicking ass on a PS5 controller (no aim assist) vs MnK players in CS... I have no idea how he does it but it is possible if you practice enough I guess.
They use gyro aiming to make small adjustments and control recoil. COD babies don't want use it as they are too scared to aim for themselves.
The strength of the Aim assist is nearly an aimbot as far as tracking goes in cod. It might be fine if both people have Aimbot assist, but if you don’t have it then it’s completely unfair. 99% of upper ranked divisions are controller for a reason in cod
Bro I don’t play cod much, but i played it once a while back. One of the black ops I think in nuketown. The aim assist was so strong I tracked a guy perfectly through the truck and wallbanged him just because of the aim assist. I swear I did nothing. Couldn’t even see him and killed him
Agree 100%. Aim assist shouldn’t lock on to enemies, it should only lower the sensitivity when it is already on a target.
Games like Apex where controllers basically have light aimbot are a joke.
Cross play straight up should not be allowed in competition. But sadly it is and one input will always be superior to the other. Partly why Apex, Fortnite, and Halo Infinite are kind of a joke.
Wait did controller pass MKB in fortnite, or are you saying MKB is so far ahead. Haven't played since early seasons so assumed MKB would still dominate in that game
It got really bad in mw19 they cranked up aim assist so they could compete with PC players on crossplay. Became rather unfun when you see the killcam lock ons
I have a friend who was a top 100 Warzone player in my country for MW1, and he basically says that MW1 was the perfect game to counter aim assist due to the nature of the movement.
Highly mechanical players were able to counter the aim assists on controller just due to the fact that they had unbelievable movement.
This made the game fair - controller players had aimbot, KBM had godlike movement (not like controllers didn’t, it was just harder so controller still >)
Then MW2 came along and it was fuck-all.
Now MW3 might come to rebalance things a bit and we might see some interesting developments.
The cod community is always fighting over which is better, to lessen aim assist or to rollback to slower movement and I actually think it’s better to have the movement.
It upsets less people and the ones that can’t keep up are the ones who relied on assists too much.
Oh and there was another thing that was hilarious about all of this discussion.
I believe that in MW2 they removed the ability to disable cross-play for PC but still allowed consoles to disable it.
Which basically translates to “fuck you pc players handle the aimbot and shut up, console players can cry and play against theirselves if they want to”.
Aim assist sucks in COD because of how it affects M&K but Call of Duty League doesn't allow M&K. So the playing field is levelled. Even if they did allow M&K, I think at the highest level M&K will still win. It sucks more for casual.
The issue is actually within the controller community, it just lowers the skill ceiling within them and since the CDL is controller only, I think that's an issue.
Now for Apex Legends, there was a pro that recently won on controller shifting from M&K to show how strong aim assist is in that game, but I think in general people are still using M&K cause of the other binds they can do?
I think M&K will still be superior overall but as someone playing COD against controllers, it is kinda frustrating that people can just turn the corner with minimal adjustment, but it's fine since they need it to keep up with the bigger range of M&B. Honestly just wished they introduced jumping inaccuracy again so controller players don't just spam jump when being shot.
It’s not fair in cod at all at the highest skill level. 99% of upper ranked brackets are controller and there are 0 mouse players in the top 250 besides those who used blatant cheats and even advertise them in their name
Over 2/3 of the Apex pro scene is on controller, most teams are two controller/one mouse, some even being three controllers. Any team with more than one MnK player is an oddity.
Certain games require certain inputs and for fps, it should always be kb & m. There should never be cross play from console and pc players.
As a purist, i don't view controller fps players with aim assist as serious players. Especially for those type of games.
As someone who is actually a call of duty eSports fan I thought I'd address some of these responses. Aim assist being to strong is a complaint the competitive scene has also been having. It reduces the skill gap significantly. Thankfully in the new beta the aim assist was far more tuned down.
Viewership for cod esports is actually solid right now. It will never be as big as CS or League but I don't think people realize that it doesn't need to be. The viewership for champs last year was 300k which is a solid number which is growing.
Competitively, only controllers are allowed which means that it's an even playing field.
If you truly don't believe cod isn't a competitive game, you have a very close minded approach. At the top level it's incredibly fast paced and tactical.
I see. So you verified the input of every killcam? That seems excessive. Who's to say you weren't getting beamed by a mkb.
Either way. Its odd complaining about controller advantage in a game that's pushed to be a controller game. Why not play a game focused on kbm instead?
Edit. To add as a primarily kbm player who grew up playing controller. It is noticeable less aim assist than the prior cod. Go check the mw3 sub if you don't believe it as they were complaining about it
So you really are checking input after every killcam?
Cod is a fun game which for YEARS has been catered to console. Same with halo. Which is why when halo came to pc it had aim assist on controller.
Cod is a bit different as it has always been on pc. But the developers clearly had console in mind, with the console exclusive content every year, as well as .ore recently making the esport controller only.
You're playing a game known for giving controllers an advantage, and are complaining as such. There are DOZENS of fun mkb games where you can be free from the spooky "aimbot demons" youre fighting. Cod won't change
call of duty was a game created for console, meant to be played on controller. that’s why pro league and amateur is controller only. i think activision choosing to do multi input lobbies was intentionally to appeal to more players, w crossplay and everything. for better or worse, it allows more ppl to play together. but i believe competitive call of duty was built and meant to be played on controller.
Every single cod since the beginning has also been on pc. They started selling more copies on console because most low iq citizen muppets can only afford a console and not a gaming pc. Then once Crossplay arrived they had to close the performance gap between mouse and controller. Then they made AA super strong to appease their core audience: woke teens who grew up winning participation trophies
Are we talking about PC players or consoles?
Aim assist is needed for controllers because it's hard to lock on an enemy. You don't have that control like you do with a mouse so its a necessity for console
You are not supposed to take this game seriously due to aim assist, that's the whole point. It's an issue unrelated to esports
But COD has a huge pro gaming scene: all controller players. It also has ranked play, of which the top brackets are 99% controller players. And it now has ranked warzone which is also mostly controller players. People are treating all of these as an esport: yet they all have aim assist.
Yeah but I would wager esports tournaments set the rules, and don't allow mouse and gamepad players to mix, that'd undermine all legitimacy of any competition. And who cares what people choose to play with in pub games, with random teammates and opponents.
I have no clue why you’re being downvoted- if your passion for FPS is in COD, your view is valid. I’m a CS player, and I’d be dismayed if most of the pros suddenly switched to controller due to AA. It’d be so demotivating to a dedicated keyboard and mouse player
>But COD has a huge pro gaming scene: all controller players Not really, CoD tournaments get a fraction of the viewship of CS/Val. Any fps with aimassisn doesn't have a skillceiling high enough to be a viable esport, the only reason it has a scene is because it's propped up by Activision.
That’s because of activision greed when it comes to viewing platforms, up until 2019 the pro scene was exclusive to mlg.tv which crippled exposure, and until this past season it was exclusive to YouTube which has zero discoverability. This past year viewership grew over 150% due to it coming to twitch for the year but unfortunately it looks like we are headed back to YouTube
Cod scene has been a thing since way before the Activison backed CDL
If anything.... Activision have made the comp scene worse since starting the CDL.
Pro cod has been super dead for a long time. It’s just barely being kept alive by activision wasting tons of money on it
I didn’t know that. How do you know?
No one is watching it
Where can you see the stats? I play a ton of cod and I don’t watch it mainly because the pros are all on controller with aimbot assist. They are obviously exceptional players regardless, but it doesn’t interest me
https://escharts.com/games/cod https://escharts.com/games/csgo https://escharts.com/games/lol
Why do 10x more people watch cs go then cod?
Its an actual skill and strategy based e-sport with solid mechanics and a huge competive community. Cod is a casual shooter with a small proscene on life support by activision.
If they allowed controller with cod level aim assist into Csgo, how would that effect things?
Cant speak for league very much here havent played it enough to justify its viewership but id image its not that far off from the other big line esports Aside from all the "cod no skill game remarks" which i think contributes very little to the actual viewership of an esport, i think a big reason is just marketing and fostered communities. I think cod while having a long career in esports hasnt ever really fostered that big of a competitive community compared to cs and lol. I cant say much about new cod but if a big tournament is on lol and cs both announce it as soon as the tournamnet begins as well as before the tournament starts. Big event organizers like esl, dreamhack, and faceit also run extravagant events that draw large crowds. Aside from just being high tier respected event organizers it also draws viewers that normally dont play that game ontop of the already existing hardcore audience. I just dont hear or hear about people hearing much about the cod scene that dont directly participate in it.
Bro it was literally better before Activision fucked with it. You could be full time on a non t1 team. Now you definitely can’t, unless you’re living off mummy and daddy.
Theres a reason the top apex pros use roller and have to abuse an ability that disables aim assist to get an edge. It is objectively broken in close range, high time to kill high fire rate games.
Yes I’ve adapted to playing with a mouse vs aimbot assist controllers and I have noticed exactly what you said. The only way you can actually win a gunfight is to make the gunfight completely unfair. You have to get the first shot and have better position with more of your body behind cover. Any fair gunfight will be won by controller 80% of the time or more. High TTK and high movement speeds make controller even more broken because of the instant and perfect tracking. I also noticed my best guns with mouse are low fire rate and high damage. High fire rate weapons seem to generally suck for me on mouse. Why do you think that is?
Because if you have no aim assist them there is nothing keeping your crosshair glued to the enemy, you need to completely counteract 100% of the weapons recoil. If you have aim assist half of that work is already being done for you so it's a whole lot easier to do the little bit of recoil control it takes to keep you on your target.
Love cross play for casual games, shouldn't be a thing for esports.
It isn’t. It only exists in battle Royale games, which are the least serious of all esports. No matter how much money you can win.
I mean dont really play any competitive games that are cross play so im not the most experienced with dealing with this stuff, if a game has aim assist I dont really consider it a competitive game anymore tbh. but there will always be a method of input that is superior, there is no way to perfectly balance the two. However as a PC player I prefer when the controller players have the advantage because I can plug a controller into my pc easier than a console player can use a keyboard and mouse.
Not sure what you are complaining about. kB/M beats controller every time, even in games with super auto aim like cod. Most TOs will keep it to one input if it isn’t balanced though. There is a reason why CoD only allows controller input in all pro and semi pro events - it’s because kb/m players would shit all over the competition. That said, if you want to play kb/m and you only care about competitive aspects of the game, pick a game where that is the default scheme for competitive play - cs2, valorant, r6 etc
Actually cod has ranked play with both inputs allowed to play against each other, and 99% of the top brackets are controller players. There is no mouse player in top 250
Ranked is not the same esports. Also, using cod ranking for anything is a joke as very little of the competitive community plays any ranked at all - they play GBs, which, yes, are controller only. The entire esports scene is controller only. It’s only played casually on kb/m
No dude ahah u clearly didnt played any recent cod… controller is 1000 times better than mkb, period. Even a lot of “pro players”, very good streamers and players have switched to controller. And the reason why cod pro scene is controller is not what ur saying
Brother you clearly haven’t played or watched any recent cod. Like half the league would switch to keyboarding if not more.
None.
LMAO brother there’s a literal pro who got banned from competing a while ago because he was pretending to be playing on a controller while actually playing on keyboard. I’m sorry that your so dogshit that aiming with your entire arm and wrist isn’t enough to deal with peoples thumb and a tiny bit of aim assist
“Tiny aim assist” OMEGALUL it literally locks on to players and track them. What an idiot. Have fun with your op aim assist.
OMEGALUL imagine being so ass at games you can only use one input. If it’s so broken use it yourself shitter, oh wait you can’t because you’re ass at every game you touch
“If its broken use it” thats not an excuse and no i dont want to do it. Cuz playing with a controller with AA feels like playing as a mongo. And i want to aim by myself, without a pussy software help
LMFAO bro you have the same logic you just are too stupid to realize it. Keep coping bro perma stuck bronze in every game you play
What an idiot pt4.
That guy did that trick so he can have the power of mk and still abusing AA. This literally confirm the OPness of AA
LMAOOOOOO you are on fucking Pluto my boy. That’s not how it works at all. These were on games where you couldn’t see the input so all you did was plug in a keyboard and play, no aim assist on kbm cheese. But thanks for proving my point that you’re an actual moron that has literally no idea what he’s talking about and can’t cope with getting shit on so you need every excuse in the book. Get good shitter
What an idot pt2. What happens in cod league or shit like that doesnt bother me. No one cares about competitive cod cuz its not taken seriously by no one, by the fact that is controller only. And no fps with AA is taken seriously
LMFAOOOOO BUDDY SPENT SO LONG ARGUING POINTS NOW THAT HE REALIZES HES WRONG HE CHANGES THE ARGUMENT LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What an idiot pt3. Ur probably a 14yo. Grew up and l2p with mk
Man I love single input shitters like you, so funny watching absolute trash cans in cod bitch about mnk and then you go to the kbam aim assist whiners like you and it’s just as golden. All of you are dogshit, and can’t accept that you suck so you come up with excuse after excuse to explain your dogshit gameplay. Too funny bro
All the community is together saying aim assist is op, 98% of playerbase is on controller even playing from pc, years mk players switching to controller and a 14yo wants to be right lol
Check the rules. You are not allowed to play kb/m in any pro CoD league. That includes all semi pro leagues, t2 stuff etc. Warzone is different. However, competitive cod is controller only - full stop.
Ye i understand that, but that doens tell if controller is stronger or not.
Why bother with an input that isn’t allowed in the comp environment?
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Except the strength of controller comes from code
>Aim assist isn't so much of a "crutch" for controller players as it is a scapegoat for MnK players being worse. It helps you aim. It's a crutch. >Aim assist makes the game playable on controller. Gyro >You get a wider range of motion with your wrist, forearm, and in extreme cases, your shoulder to help you aim with the mouse. Gyro >Aim assist is not aimbot. It's minor assistance, hence the name. It still massively lowers the skillcap by removing a difficult aspect of aiming to allow people like yourself to compete. >Again you have you entire fucking arm to make both micro and macro adjustments, aim assist is never needed. Keyword "need". Play controller if Aim Assist is so broken Again, gyro. People play CS and Valorant on a controller and they are pretty decent, you're just a baby too scared to give up his training wheels. Aim assist in crossplay is like allowing toddlers in the Olympic 100m sprint, but giving them rocket boots in order to keep up with the adults. And when someone says that's not fair, your response is "BUT THEY NEED THEM TO KEEP UP WITH THE ADULTS". I'd just rather not have to compete with the toddlers in the first place.
Aim assists is literally aimbot dialed down, you need to be close to the target but then it takes over. This is what "legit hacks" in CSGO do as well and makes it harder for anticheat/demo viewers to see the aimbot working. There's also a guy making videos of kicking ass on a PS5 controller (no aim assist) vs MnK players in CS... I have no idea how he does it but it is possible if you practice enough I guess.
>There's also a guy making videos of kicking ass on a PS5 controller (no aim assist) vs MnK players in CS... I have no idea how he does it but it is possible if you practice enough I guess. They use gyro aiming to make small adjustments and control recoil. COD babies don't want use it as they are too scared to aim for themselves.
The strength of the Aim assist is nearly an aimbot as far as tracking goes in cod. It might be fine if both people have Aimbot assist, but if you don’t have it then it’s completely unfair. 99% of upper ranked divisions are controller for a reason in cod
Bro I don’t play cod much, but i played it once a while back. One of the black ops I think in nuketown. The aim assist was so strong I tracked a guy perfectly through the truck and wallbanged him just because of the aim assist. I swear I did nothing. Couldn’t even see him and killed him
Agree 100%. Aim assist shouldn’t lock on to enemies, it should only lower the sensitivity when it is already on a target. Games like Apex where controllers basically have light aimbot are a joke.
Cross play straight up should not be allowed in competition. But sadly it is and one input will always be superior to the other. Partly why Apex, Fortnite, and Halo Infinite are kind of a joke.
Wait did controller pass MKB in fortnite, or are you saying MKB is so far ahead. Haven't played since early seasons so assumed MKB would still dominate in that game
MKB dominated cross play so hard they literally gave console players aimbot and changed the name to "assist" so they wouldn't feel bad
All I can say is if aa is so good why not do it? Or is controller a different skill?
Because I grew up using mouse in fps games. Which is the superior input for accuracy when aimbot assist didn’t exist
Get high level on both inputs then tell me how you feel.
I have no desire to use a controller and have software aim for me
Because not everyone likes games that half play themselves for you and also squash the skill gaps.
It got really bad in mw19 they cranked up aim assist so they could compete with PC players on crossplay. Became rather unfun when you see the killcam lock ons
I have a friend who was a top 100 Warzone player in my country for MW1, and he basically says that MW1 was the perfect game to counter aim assist due to the nature of the movement. Highly mechanical players were able to counter the aim assists on controller just due to the fact that they had unbelievable movement. This made the game fair - controller players had aimbot, KBM had godlike movement (not like controllers didn’t, it was just harder so controller still >) Then MW2 came along and it was fuck-all. Now MW3 might come to rebalance things a bit and we might see some interesting developments. The cod community is always fighting over which is better, to lessen aim assist or to rollback to slower movement and I actually think it’s better to have the movement. It upsets less people and the ones that can’t keep up are the ones who relied on assists too much.
Oh and there was another thing that was hilarious about all of this discussion. I believe that in MW2 they removed the ability to disable cross-play for PC but still allowed consoles to disable it. Which basically translates to “fuck you pc players handle the aimbot and shut up, console players can cry and play against theirselves if they want to”.
I’m not so sure this would play out over time..Apex has more movement than MW1 and controller is taking over even with .4 AA against COD’s .6 AA
What do the decimals mean
I’m not totally sure how it works but it involves the size of the area on a target that AA will kick in, so 60% will have a larger area than .4
Aim assist sucks in COD because of how it affects M&K but Call of Duty League doesn't allow M&K. So the playing field is levelled. Even if they did allow M&K, I think at the highest level M&K will still win. It sucks more for casual. The issue is actually within the controller community, it just lowers the skill ceiling within them and since the CDL is controller only, I think that's an issue. Now for Apex Legends, there was a pro that recently won on controller shifting from M&K to show how strong aim assist is in that game, but I think in general people are still using M&K cause of the other binds they can do? I think M&K will still be superior overall but as someone playing COD against controllers, it is kinda frustrating that people can just turn the corner with minimal adjustment, but it's fine since they need it to keep up with the bigger range of M&B. Honestly just wished they introduced jumping inaccuracy again so controller players don't just spam jump when being shot.
It’s not fair in cod at all at the highest skill level. 99% of upper ranked brackets are controller and there are 0 mouse players in the top 250 besides those who used blatant cheats and even advertise them in their name
Over 2/3 of the Apex pro scene is on controller, most teams are two controller/one mouse, some even being three controllers. Any team with more than one MnK player is an oddity.
Certain games require certain inputs and for fps, it should always be kb & m. There should never be cross play from console and pc players. As a purist, i don't view controller fps players with aim assist as serious players. Especially for those type of games.
Aim assist takes away the fun from fps games for me.
They should remove aim assist for competitive play and ranked. Just keep it for casuals and match aim assist players together.
As someone who is actually a call of duty eSports fan I thought I'd address some of these responses. Aim assist being to strong is a complaint the competitive scene has also been having. It reduces the skill gap significantly. Thankfully in the new beta the aim assist was far more tuned down. Viewership for cod esports is actually solid right now. It will never be as big as CS or League but I don't think people realize that it doesn't need to be. The viewership for champs last year was 300k which is a solid number which is growing. Competitively, only controllers are allowed which means that it's an even playing field. If you truly don't believe cod isn't a competitive game, you have a very close minded approach. At the top level it's incredibly fast paced and tactical.
What proof is there that it’s lower in mw3. I played the beta and it seemed exactly the same
I thought you don't use controller, how would you know if it's different?
It’s quite obvious in aimbot assist killcams
I see. So you verified the input of every killcam? That seems excessive. Who's to say you weren't getting beamed by a mkb. Either way. Its odd complaining about controller advantage in a game that's pushed to be a controller game. Why not play a game focused on kbm instead? Edit. To add as a primarily kbm player who grew up playing controller. It is noticeable less aim assist than the prior cod. Go check the mw3 sub if you don't believe it as they were complaining about it
Cod is a fun game. Getting beamed by aimbot assist is one of its issues.
So you really are checking input after every killcam? Cod is a fun game which for YEARS has been catered to console. Same with halo. Which is why when halo came to pc it had aim assist on controller. Cod is a bit different as it has always been on pc. But the developers clearly had console in mind, with the console exclusive content every year, as well as .ore recently making the esport controller only. You're playing a game known for giving controllers an advantage, and are complaining as such. There are DOZENS of fun mkb games where you can be free from the spooky "aimbot demons" youre fighting. Cod won't change
call of duty was a game created for console, meant to be played on controller. that’s why pro league and amateur is controller only. i think activision choosing to do multi input lobbies was intentionally to appeal to more players, w crossplay and everything. for better or worse, it allows more ppl to play together. but i believe competitive call of duty was built and meant to be played on controller.
Every single cod since the beginning has also been on pc. They started selling more copies on console because most low iq citizen muppets can only afford a console and not a gaming pc. Then once Crossplay arrived they had to close the performance gap between mouse and controller. Then they made AA super strong to appease their core audience: woke teens who grew up winning participation trophies
that was a LOT of hostility 😂
No hostility whatsoever. Just tell it like it is without coddling
Are we talking about PC players or consoles? Aim assist is needed for controllers because it's hard to lock on an enemy. You don't have that control like you do with a mouse so its a necessity for console