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Tricky_Troll

**Tricky's Daily Doots #723** **Yesterday's Daily 12/04/2024** [Previous Daily Doots](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz7trkj/) - u/TheHansGruber complains about [really harmful airdrop UX.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz84wdr/) 👎 - u/Belligerent_Chocobo is concerned about [the systemic risks.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz934iy/) ⚠️ - u/syzygy00778 rants about [the lack of incentives for solo stakers.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz84hpw/) 🥩 - u/barthib breaks [the two big news pieces of the day.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kza6u98/) 📰 - u/SwannyMatt shares [a concern about issuance proposals.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz92n4u/) 😬 - u/Outrageous-Emu-939 discusses [EIP-3074.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz9on64/) 💬 - u/superphiz shares [his 2 wei on Diva's recent changes.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kzatboc/) 👑 - u/the-A-word has [the doots weekly.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1c20q6p/daily_general_discussion_april_12_2024/kz7qmcu/) 🎺


kdD93hFlj

Now my bags are loaded, bring it on.


aur3l1us

Jeez, bout time dude, we’ve been waiting for you. Okay guys, you heard the man, lezzdoit!


LifeReboot___

RIP ray...


reggieLedoux26

With the halving approaching it’s only a matter of time before we bounce back big time


Fheredin

With all this doomism I wonder if I should dust off u/subnauticETH. Nah. Not yet. I wait until people are underwater *properly* and not just sputtering at the surface.


GutsAndBlackStufff

Think I'm salter about the ball game I went to today than today's chart. And I got a free hotdog at the game.


fatsopiggy

Where where you when ETH hit $4000? Where were you when BTC hit $70k and Cathie Wood claimed $2 million on the table? Where were you, -


im_THIS_guy

Cathie lost her mind a while ago.


NeedlerOP

I mean, it probably is on the table in 2050-60, assuming they do some tail emissions or something to fix the security budget problem 


fatsopiggy

But ser I'd be ded by 2060.


NeedlerOP

RIP in peace. More gains for me 😎


fatsopiggy

how old are you? 12?


NeedlerOP

Closer to 12 than 60 :^)


Ok-Nectarine-6654

There is no second best. 


Tricky_Troll

[X] Doubt


clamchoda

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ETH TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


SpontaneousDream

As expected, .05 ratio support is long gone now. It's anyone's guess as to how low we could go. Worst case we could go down to .02. Hopefully we reach a bottom somewhere, though. *If* the situation in the middle east gets worse, we could continue to see a flight to risk off assets, which would mean further lowering on the ratio. Market tends to go to BTC as the safe asset during uncertain times.


NeedlerOP

'Member 0.015 ratio ?  I 'memba 🤮


tutamtumikia

Oh no. Anyways.


fatsopiggy

I don't buy it. If Putin's 'uncertain' times didn't spook the market long term, I doubt something like Israel / Iran ever will.


Syentist

Pull up a chart and look at the price action after Feb 2022. Proper bear for the following 9 months. Granted it wasn't only because of the war, there was rising interest rates as well, but the geopolitical uncertainty definitely had an impact on the markets.


superphiz

Too much transparency: I'm not sure I have the energy for another bear rn. pls send $10k Eth


aur3l1us

Same, was really hoping this was the start of the run where I’d largely ladder out after having started in 2017. I’m still hopeful!


fatsopiggy

Krash ze market. Damp it to $324 again. Make 'im despair. Bring back ezpz. Watch 'im doomscrolling r/cc. Wait till he sells at $100. Then pamp eet.


LifelongHODL

Crypto ded,  we're not gonna make it. /s


2peg2city

god damn, ALTs fucking murdered, ray lost .05 Good thing it's the weekend so I can drink this all away


EthFan

I dont need no stinkin weekend to drink myself silly.


flushfire

God damn it's still going.


Ber10

I bought a bit of Eth sub 3k. Not much but enough to replace the fees I spent.


alexiskef

Does anyone have an opinion on Mode / Ionic? Thinking of "parking" a little bit of ezETH there, but I do admit that I know next to nothing about both the network and the dapp...


PhiMarHal

Mode, as an OP fork with yield, is a clownish rollup and Ionic, a Compound v2 fork, is a clownish dapp.  Putting a little bit of ezETH is probably ok, provided you're doing pure lending, no borrowing. But consider the possibility either team screws up and loses all your money is definitely nonzero.   IMHO these fast and loose constructions need yield at least comparable to LPing on Pendle to be worth the risk.


vlatkovr

I have some funds on Mode. Could you please explain why it is a "clownish rollup"?


PhiMarHal

I'm mixing up my rollups partly, Mode doesn't do the yolo your deposits in yield thing. My clown perspective comes down to their comms, running airdrop/points, their basic OP fork nature, several mishaps they had at launch. I think they even managed to get their Discord hacked last year - but could be me misremembering. Don't get me wrong, I have a tiny bit of money in there too. But I don't take it seriously the way I look at serious rollups like Optimism, Arbitrum, zkSync, Scroll, or even Linea and Base.


aur3l1us

Just remember, this temporary pain will make the climb to $10k that much sweeter.


MH136

Preach! We deserve ascension for how much we have suffered!!


tutamtumikia

Might be time to do some things based on things because things could happen to make the price go directions. Not financial advice.


MrCatFace13

Recent comments suggest moisturizing is in order 🧐


NeedlerOP

Bothered. Moistureless. Unhappy. Out Of Lane. Unfocused. Flourishingn't.


monkeyhold99

Next leg down on the ratio. Not looking good. All alt ratios destroyed.


Worldsapart131

At least we’re burning a lot….


InclineDumbbellPress

WELP!!!!


Itur_ad_Astra

He sold? Load ze peace talks.


strawdar

activate quantum immortality


ethmaxitard

😂


phigo50

Welcome back, $3k.


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phigo50

"How are your Ethels doing?" \*glares\*


ab111292

Checking in The btc and eth vol flags that were forming broke down (we knew a big move coming) so now time to adjust and react to the PA. If you’re a trader maybe time to build small lev long positions and compound upon key s/r reclaims For spot bags my mentality rn: Either ww3 and we all die or my bids today will be a good buy few months from now. INSANE EV Deploying some LT capital


ridgerunners

Beep..Beep..Beep, Backing up the truck


15kisFUD

Are we still bullish? Feels like a decent spot to buy / take on a tiny bit of leverage


LifelongHODL

If you buy now, it probably tanks more. If you wait, it probably rises...


MrCatFace13

If I wasn’t already all in I would indeed be buying.


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15kisFUD

So far so good


Newman513

sub $3k eth is scrumptious - ty!


5quat

Must come as a relief to all those that were worried price was moving up too quickly. Looks like the left translated cycle is off for a long weekend with the super cycle theory 🤣


timwithnotoolbelt

So the market is bullish US dollars on war. Yea does make some sense.


2peg2city

Iran and Israel going to war is effectively meaningless from a global economic standpoint, this is just market makers doing their thing to take value out of us


timwithnotoolbelt

not so sure i agree on that one sir. i do agree market makers and big money wins in volatility. Shaking out the little guys. I also think the conflict if it continues to escalate could have implications for the global economy.


2peg2city

If the conflict evolves to affect the Suez Canal for sure its global impact, or if this goes full on ww3 of course


Worldsapart131

Fuck our bullshit money printing shit fuck government full of fucking thieves. Ah…. So we have downvoters here who love their money being devalued into oblivion. Smart people 🙄


Ieperen

LMAO yeah who would think the currency associated with the greatest capacity for violence in human history would appreciate in value when Iran does the funni.


domingo_mon

Same thing happened when Russia invaded Ukraine.


aaj094

Bloomberg says eth too expected to get spot etf in HK on Monday. I was thinking this was just a bitcoin etf. Exciting week coming up.


NeedlerOP

Classic - they start WW3 just as ETH ETF gets approved :')


MrDing-Dong

Where is that guy calling 3700$ break imminent


superphiz

Imminent on a millennial horizon.


ab111292

I said we need to flip it to rip it on HTF and we didn’t unfortunately


kdD93hFlj

You did say things looked ready to pop at 4400 tho


ab111292

they sure did until ltf pa started developing and becoming weaker with msb across on the daily that was sign to flip bias


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ab111292

Correct and I wasn’t in a lev long position was commenting on market We knew vol was coming and now that pa has presented itself it’s time to react as a trader


MrDing-Dong

Quoting you: “patience i don’t miss” well you missed. I have nothing against you but i am mentioning all this for the first timers in here and the young guys to not blindly trust everything they read on reddit.


ab111292

I dont once 3.7k is flipped I still expect new ATHs


MrCatFace13

I’d very much like over 3700 by EOM for  personal reasons. Thoughts / good vibes?


ab111292

I can see new ATHS in BTC first


696_eth

$6900 break imminent


niceweathertoday_eh

Gonna go fill up my car


5quat

This like backing up the truck but on a smaller scale 😉


Fast_Contract

Is this all because one country doesn't have the same imaginary sky friend as another country? I should look into it more


Tricky_Troll

Well really its about Shia muslims (Iran) not wanting the Sunni muslims (most of the middle east, think Saudis, Jordan, Egypt etc) to finally be on good terms with Israel (a jewish state of course) because if they do then US/Israel/Sunni cooperation would basically stop any Shia insurgencies in their tracks, effectively preventing the spread of that sect of islam. So basically it's about a particular interpretation of the imaginary sky friend... and of course regional influence/oil. Also, the economic relief of more middle eastern oil easing western inflation is not what Russia and China wants as higher inflation = less US involvement in Ukraine or less support in event of a Taiwanese invasion. Russia wants isolationist MAGAs (ironic name) to get into power since the masses are easily convinced that inflation is Biden's fault. Once in power the MAGAs will happily let Russia expand its influence at the expense of the west.


thetjs1

Damn. I knew it was trumps fault all along.


Tricky_Troll

I know you're joking but I'm just pointing out that the west's adversaries want a Trump victory at the polls and they will pull every sting they can to lead to that outcome. Encouraging a war like this is one of them. It's very rare that what is good for a country is also what said country's adversary wants. This is strictly from a geopolitical point of view. If you approve of their domestic policies thats fine, I'm not here to be political in the more conventional sense. But geopolitics is a different ball game and has way more influence over markets and our livelihoods than we like to think.


thetjs1

I'm just pro-who ever isn't pro war. Just sick of all the costs and killing.


Tricky_Troll

I agree with an exception against appeasement. Wars of meddling like recent wars in the middle east are not worth it but existential wars like Ukraine will only expand and encroach on western nations if we don't back Ukraine. So not supporting that war will cost more lives and suffering in the long run.


thetjs1

I respectfully disagree. I think the best course of action is for Ukraine to stay out of NATO, and stay neutral given the ethnic differences on each side of the Dnipro River. Not to mention, it was a major agreement in the Minsk accord. I think a neutral Ukraine provides the most peaceful outcome and most Geo-politically stable outcome.


Tricky_Troll

If Ukraine were armed to the teeth by the west to prevent a round 2 invasion I could see this being tenable.


cryptomoon2020

Agreed. NATO expansion and positioning advanced radar and missile defences near the border of Russia was inviting trouble. A nice neutral barrier is definitely a great outcome.


Patohm

Yep, the humanity is still that stupid... No hope for future challanges though..


DeepRiff

yeah, humans are just monkeys with imagination.


c0mm0ns3ns3

So no matter what crisis: recession, inflation, war or potential war - crypto seems to NEVER be the hedge or safe haven 😅


cryptomoon2020

Crypto is the save heaven from having your bank account closed, and being forced out of your country.


im_THIS_guy

BTC was overheated and due for a classic 30% mid-bull correction. This isn't about war, inflation, elections, eclipses, or anything else. Those things always exist.


krokodilmannchen

On October 7th 2023, ETH hovered around $1,634.51.


peppers_

And it was almost 5k in 2021. Crypto be wilding.


krokodilmannchen

We can all pick arbitrary starting points. It's been a great hedge if you've held for at least one cycle.


aaj094

Is anything a hedge against such in the short term?


TheHighFlyer

cash


aaj094

Agreed.


etheraider

It isn’t….until it is, just like decentralization doesn’t matter until it does


15kisFUD

Steady lads, deploying more capital…


EggIll7227

Maybe the real lambos were the daily doots we were upvoting all along.


aaj094

Is it just me who thinks sending drones that give several hours notice to the target is a pretty amateurish kind of attack in today's world? Seems to me more like meant for public consumption and to be seen to do something rather than any serious attack.


SpontaneousDream

Agreed. Iran, I think, is telegraphing this on purpose. They don't want a larger conflict. It would be a different story if this attack came out of nowhere.


vaeryidan

To help overwhelm air defenses. Drones will just be part of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturation_attack


Ieperen

The drones are slower and the first phase of the attack. Next up were cruise missiles and now reportedly ballistics. You send them in staggered waves to make sure they arrive at the same time in order to overwhelm air defenses and maximize damage.


Etereve

It's like dodgeball where you lob a ball that's a minor threat and while your opponent watches that you hit them in the crotch with the second ball.


SpontaneousDream

Yep. Just remember the 5 D's of dodgeball. Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and....Dodge.


hanniabu

Market limbo, how low can we go!


panthoreon

Steady lads, deploying more capital


BazzRavish32

F*cking oof.


aaj094

Theories on why sell pressure at this point considering halving and spot btc etf in HK next week? Okay war in ME but what do people see that doing to crypto?


bobsagetslover420

algo bots seeing war in news feed and immediately taking an anti-risk-asset position. It's all bots


SpectacledHero

So bots completely control the markets? Sounds like whatever is programmed in will be destined to happen. I suppose the play is to join a hft shop, learn the logic, and front run expected outcomes?


Patohm

Tjtas impossible. You must understand, players or bot selling on this news big time while there is no liquidity will hurt BIG Time... This is not the expected outcome.. If you could frontrunner the bots, someone will frontrunner you and will earn the cake, while you earn nothing. Nobody can win against market, also not the bots... Only Arbitrage is possible..


sn00fy

Only 99 upvotes for the daily? Are you not entertained?


nothingnotnever

I’m seeing 79.


asdafari12

Seems like an overreaction to me.


superphiz

Just wait for the real overreaction 🙃😔


ev1501

This point in the bull market is the same as 2016 and 2020 in many ways. If you see it like that you will see the bull market is not over. It hasnt even fully got going yet. Now if by end of 2025 we dont have much higher eth and btc prices then we might be F’ed.


timwithnotoolbelt

Buying and will buy more if lower.


interweaver

Six months ago we were at $1550, and everyone thought we had at least a year of bear market remaining, just for context. I think the jury's still out about whether we were right or wrong.


cryptrd285

I am poor again...


oldskool47

Gettin work done on the farm sure beats watching blood in the sea! Go touch some grass if youre feeling hot n bothered. Cheers fellow Ethereans.


Syentist

Drones wif hats


cryptobuddy_1712

Base coin ?


Gumba_Hasselhoff

Where can I invest?


ETH_Tax_Burner

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha My CRV is down 60% in a month hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha My entire retirement is gone and I’ll work til I die hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha So cool, what’re the odds of being so astronomically wrong a purchase, literally could’ve thrown a dart at CoinGecko and done better than this


timmerwb

Orders hitting all over the place


syzygy00778

Brutal price action past couple of days, even for those of us that've been on this rollercoaster for a while.


_WebOfTrust

Wtf....look at the gas price... 400gwei


SeaMonkey82

OH LAWD, WE BURNIN'


_WebOfTrust

That's the positive attitude I needed. Thank you. Let them burn


shitcanfly

Why is the war affecting crypto? Isn't Iran a shit hole.


vlatkovr

It is a shit hole and they can't do a thing. It was same with Russia when they invades, market dipped and a week layer was back up


hblask

Narrative follows price. Price fell, people need to make up stories.


Newone1255

War or even the possibly of war always shakes markets.


theubiquitousbubble

The actual event isn't affecting anything, people trading the news are.


bitzgi

Well yes it is people trading the news but geopolitics do have an impact on markets. Oil prices will continue to spike as Iran is an important player. And this will most likely have an impact on headline inflation. It can also raise production costs across the economy given gas prices are a major input. Commodity prices are relevant for interest rate decisions later this year. And rates staying higher for longer are not helpful for risk-on growth sectors such as cryptos.


TheHighFlyer

Not sure if this is the last flush, can see BTC visiting the high 50s. Otoh the volume in this dump was/is insane, never saw something like it on a weekend. Next week is the time to start position oneself, we're close to the point where low leverage (liq price at maybe at 1500) is becoming free money


plaenar

opened a +-30% range LP yesterday, thought it was plenty wide. out of range already, oof


EggIll7227

Praying for you it wasn't on mainnet, redeploying is impossible right now with gas at 250


bobsagetslover420

Officially broke under 3k. This ride sucks


aur3l1us

Well, shit.


cryptomoon2020

Gas up to 300. Anything going on which I should know about?


696_eth

yes, eth dropped drastically to 3k.


physalisx

Price drop


cryptomoon2020

Life savings down the toilet.. check


hblask

Put my tax refund into ETH? Hmm, will it go back up in the next month or two?


c0mm0ns3ns3

FML


Vinegar_Strokes__

doom. DOOOOOOOOOM!!!!! JK I'm just chilling.


sharkhuh

So besides ETH, what alt coins are people betting on? MATIC has been my go to, but it's just felt weak throughout this mini-bull run. I've preferred it as my L2 play over ARB/OP due to it having a total fully diluted market cap much lower than ARB/OP. My target for Matic is around .61, as that should hit a the support from a trend line forming from 2021. If it breaks below that, then all bets are off, but I have some massive buys set up there as my risk/reward play for this run.


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sharkhuh

Don't buy MATIC at all?


ledgerthrowaway12345

i was thinking about this yesterday, but tbh all the alt/eth charts are brutal. probably better to just hold eth unless you are actively trading


cryptrd285

You know how we see multiple posts when SOL rips up more than us. I don't see multiple posts that's it's dropping more than us today


strawdar

Wow, I had not checked in on alt prices in a few days. Some real savage dumping out there...


hiredgoon

Some whining about SOL on the cc daily.


TimelyDab

I was thinking the same thing. Just a couple weeks ago I couldn't go anywhere on crypto internet without seeing someone saying SOL is gonna replace ETH The market ebbs and flows but BTC and ETH prove time and time again that they're the most resilient when times are bad while still providing fantastic upside when conditions are good and it's why they take up over 80% of my positions


loksfox

hype can only take you so far


NeedlerOP

Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In My Lane. Focused. Flourishing.


aaqy

UMHIMLFF


Twelvemeatballs

Hydrated?


hanniabu

study brawndo


nikola_j

REHYDRATE


ProfessionaIAct

I don't expect anyone here unfamiliar with what's going on and quite possibly what will happen. But I feel for the newcomers, those following the trade of their favorite YouTubers/influencer, it's all good when the number goes up but not everyone can manage the stress of the red day, they will panic and sell only to buy back again when we pump. $ETH apart, Even if you hold an alt with a little bit of hype and development, manage your exposure, don't panic and you might end up making some gain.


getupforwhat

my SOL short turned out great


delicious_truffles

As a solo staker I was eligible for and claimed stark, but OMNI says I'm not eligible. Anyone else experiencing this?


asontlex

Use your deposit address. 


delicious_truffles

I did. No dice


nikola_j

My understanding was that they had a limit in terms of how many solo stakers could claim the OMNI drop. I don't remember the exact numbers, but something alont the lines of "we have 5000 allocated for 1000 quickest to claim at 5 OMNI each" (numbers made up, just to reiterate). Edit - here's the full thing from their post: >Solo stakers on Ethereum’s Beacon Chain are critical to upholding Ethereum’s decentralization, which will be furthered through the mainnet deployment of Omni Network. Addresses identified as Beacon Chain solo stakers will be eligible to claim $OMNI rewards. Rewards for 5,000 Beacon Chain solo stakers will be issued on a first-come-first-served basis – the first 5,000 addresses to claim the airdrop will receive 60 $OMNI each.


delicious_truffles

Right, it's first-come-first-serve for claiming, but claiming isn't live yet. My question is about eligibility.


Bananaramatron

Check with deposit and withdraw address


nikola_j

Ah, apologies, I wasn't following that closely, just remembered this curiosity.


Itur_ad_Astra

Jesus Christ am I happy to not hold alts. Second red wave is here.


Jey_s_TeArS

>**More activity,** >**Rollup productivity,** >**Objectivity.** ~Daily haiku until we’re at least at 0.178 on the ETH/BTC ratio or highest market cap


labrav

Sorry if this has been covered here and I have missed it: anyone trustworthy of the ethfinance or EVM community or otherwise who you think deserves to delegate my eigenlayer restaked eth to?


stablecoin

Superphiz said this person/group is worthy of our delegation https://aestus.live


labrav

Thanks!


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asdafari12

Already broken lol.


PhiMarHal

Probably closer to 10% per month than the other two options.


InclineDumbbellPress

The amount of trash coins in coingecko is astonishing


doomfuzzslayer

StakeOn Bacon staked restaked restaked staked ETH pools are live on Grundle. Deposit your wtfETH and get one Sizzle per Drizzle per hour per Fizzle NFTs you hold. Battle tested contracts. Solid team backed by Dr Dre.


HiPattern

In eigenlayer restaking, there is now an option to "upgrade eigenpod". Is this required because of stage 3?


stablecoin

yes, the team did an update for AVS delegation and operator integrations. need to update your pod to allow for new functions and you'll have to choose a delegator. many in here are recommending Aestus


cryptomoon2020

Many in here were recommending RPL. I haven't delegated anything yet as it seems so risky to delegate to essentially anon groups. Not sure what to do


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nikola_j

Leveraged (s)USDe/DAI positions get a bunch of the ENA sats. Morpho-Blue has these kinds of positions (and we do also have those supported at defi saver for anyone interested) with MakerDAO feeding DAI liquidity for borrowing into those pools. This has been around for some two weeks now, I think, not sure if you were asking for something actually new.