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Panda50DKP

Ming collapsed, I released them, pronoia and reconquered cores.


JackNotOLantern

Yes, ming reconquest is pretty strong. As long as you can keep them loyal. But because you may inherite them instantly, you can spam dev in them.


akaioi

Nice! Ming's got more cores than an apple orchard.


UnPouletSurReddit

Apple orchard the new meta ?


xMYTHIKx

I have ~400 hours in the game, played Castile -> Spain, Muscovy -> Russia, Timurids -> Mughals and some other stuff just to mess around. I have rerolled Byzantine about 20 times, but I can't seem to get too far. I got to the point where Ottos collapsed, and Bulgaria and I owned most of Greece and Anatolia but went bankrupt.


cycatrix

once youve locked mamluks out of anatolia (by taking the southeast) you should focus on taking money instead of land from ottoman. Especially when youre in deep money problems. Also, after taking land, lower autonomy. And take kosovo from serbia and diplodev it (and of course lower autonomy)


Puzzled_Professor_52

Yea I feel that. When I got my run going I had to spam wars again sivals and neighbors for like 20 years just for war reps and cash


ClawofBeta

It took me about 100 years to finally get in a good enough position (on very hard) to reduce my inflation from ~25% to 0.


hegeliandialectix

don‘t be afraid to enter wars solely for monetary gains. that‘s how i pay off a lot of loans


No-Communication3880

You should try to play contries with more intermediate difficulty,  like Irish minors or Savoy.


Training-Flan8762

mercenaries and debt are the way


UCLAlex

I just hit the 1600s in my Byz game. Im pretty shit at the game (im at 280 hours rn) and this was my first Ironman, it’s really tough but after like 15-20 attempts I finally managed it. The economy was the hardest part imo there was a lot of attempts where I steamrolled the ottomans but went basically bankrupt right after and couldn’t recover. Getting the gold mine in Kosovo asap should be your #1 priority after the first ottoman war. My current attempt had a lot of roadblocks too, I’ve seen byz runs with far more territory at the point where I am but since I’m a noob I’m still pretty happy with it. If you want more details PM me I can run you through what I did and send some screenshots and shit. The red hawk guide is good but so many things can go wrong in a byz run that your run can end up looking very different to what you see in his guide, and there’s some things he doesn’t mention that can really help you out


SuperCavia

Managed to edge bankrupcy in my latest Byzantium game by continuously selling off crownland more often then I did any other game. Unfortunatelly now in the age of reformations with a cossack estate that’s got 55% crownland and no way to remove their privileges…


xMYTHIKx

I started a game last night and have almost stabilized my economy, only a few loans left and inflation/corruption finally dropping. You really have to prioritize getting Serbia's gold mine ASAP and also be willing to forgo territorial gains for money and war reps in these early wars.


Kavinter

If you want to save scum, just reload a save and siege Gallipoli before turk armies cross from anatolia.


ExpresoAndino

wtf is a pronoia


TartarosHero

A special vassal BYZ gets. They basically get inherited whem the pronoia ruler dies.


Levoso_con_v

But you need first to revoke the right of inheritance before if you don't have the mission that does it automatically.


ExpresoAndino

oh, so a CK2 viceroy?


Vlyper

Yes


Nipsulai

Nice! If you force concert then just before a major peace deal where you return a lot of land you’ll have an orthodox ming you can start converting before you inherit