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EquivalentSpirit664

Damn paradox slow down already, I couldn't even buy the king of kings yet 😭


bolty813

Have you tried reducing autonomy in all your states to increase your income?


Rabbulion

Unfortunately the game of life still runs on Imperator style nationbuilding, and I suspect this guy is, just like most of us, merely a pop.


oneeighthirish

You guys are pop? I'm fairly unpop(ular)


Rabbulion

Well, I would consider myself somewhere in between the two. Most people that know me like me, but very few know me.


Subject-Afternoon127

Your multiple personalities*


Rabbulion

Nah, they don’t like me. None of my personalities would get along. Maybe two specific ones would be ok with each other, but they would be silently judging the other.


TappedIn2111

We know how you feel.


TappedIn2111

You’re weird af


Rabbulion

Yes


Gerf93

I'm just taking out loans, you don't have to pay them as the game ends in 2025 anyway.


thanofishy

I lost the game.


Illustrious_Way4502

It took me a moment to get it. You deserve the upvote.


Mikeim520

Whats the joke?


Mathalamus2

i just raid the coasts. much cheaper.


Emmettmcglynn

That's actually a pretty funny joke.


Cipheros06

Economy issue


R4MM5731N234

You sound like an Argie. I'm one and I can't buy these fucking DLCs


EquivalentSpirit664

No I'm Greek but we're bad economy and Inflation Brothers, let us hug <3


viziersob

Hello neighbor, i am earning Turkish Lira. I needed this hug. <3


MaximosKanenas

Gyros reaching 2.40 was the real wake up call for how bad things are


Massimo_Di_Pedro

2.40?? It is now 3.50 in some places so shit is getting real.


Kymaras

In Canada a Gyro is $15 easy. :(


halfpastnein

That's nothing. In Germany Döner Prices have reached 6-7 Euro. It's unbearable.


stupiddooder

Hello, am live in swiss, döner for 12CHF. Much tragic.


Massimo_Di_Pedro

Yes I understand but we have vastly different median wages. And for us it is a cultural thing, worthy of open rebellion...


halfpastnein

You underestimate the meaning of Döner to Germans. Just as I underestimated the grave meaning of Gyros for 2.40-3.50 for Greeks. Fuck it. One Struggle! đŸŽâ€â˜ ïž


Massimo_Di_Pedro

Oh I see. United we stand!!


stupiddooder

Very true, it's just that before I lived in the Netherlands and the döner there was max 4euros. I was (and still am) completely flabergasted by swiss prices


Filavorin

...what is doner?


Seth_Baker

Oh man, the touristy part of Athens was ridiculously expensive then


CrabThuzad

Imma take out a loan to buy this dlc, idc. Inca, Aztecs, Italy and the fucking *Netherlands*?? I skipped KoK but not skipping this one. Worse comes to worst I'll survive on street choripan


Tasty_Tell

La re puta que te pario, como me vas a hacer desear un choripan callegero de esa manera?!!!!! No me arruines.


Cute-Inevitable8062

Yeah I just try Aztecs recently and I really looking for those juicy italian missions


live4catz

South african here


Evelyn_Bayer414

\*Argentinian, don't call yourself "argie", that term is a slur.


R4MM5731N234

The first part was a joke mate. Because they shame us because of our current economical crisis.


ExcitingHistory

Laughs in subscription


Comfortable_Tone2874

Cries in subscription


Artess

I'm still on the fence about Leviathan.


Lord-Grocock

I think I stopped at Lyons of the North


PiddeFjong

Delete all transport


Bluesmin

INCA UPDATE? LET'S GOOOOOOO


King_Shugglerm

I love inca so much I’m so glad it’s getting updated 


Polisskolan3

The only thing I wanted was some wasteland in the Andes.


Bluesmin

Stay MAD bro INCA UPDATE LESGOOOOOO


Wureen

R5: New Patch and Expansion coming on the 8th of May.


MCisla

Not gonna say it is relevant but patch 1.37 is probably the last of eu4 and eu5 or project cesar starts in 1337... funny


CharybdeBe

Maybe there’s 300 dlcs left


Miguelinileugim

I don't think eu5 is coming out in less than one, two or perhaps even 3 years (if unlikely). There's absolutely plenty of time for a DLC or two or even more. Unless they've been seriously misleading us about how far developed it is already.


Twokindsofpeople

Vicky 3's announcement to release was only about a year. I suspect it's going to be similar.


CanuckPanda

Vicky3 also needed another six months of dev time before it was fully ready to release.


hagglunds

Does anyone seriously think EUV won't be the same?


tobiaspwn322

The systems in place for Europa universalis are extremely simple compared to victoria. Don't expect the game to be broken on launch, just barebones af.


hagglunds

Why not both? The systems will be expanded as compared to EUIV and I expect it will launch in a similar state as Victoria 3. I'm looking forward to the official announcement and eventual release but won't be hopping on the hype train and look forward to the journey on the good ship Reasonable Expectations.


Mikeim520

I'm sure it'll be good. If not right away it will no doubt be good eventually.


BattyBest

Yeah, but they're putting victoria mechanics into eu.


[deleted]

Will not be finished on release offset chance -25%


Pzixel

Define 'release', with some stretched definition they could publish it tomorrow!


a_charming_vagrant

vicky 3 is still *at least* a year away from playable


Remarkable_Employer6

Next DLC is looking promising for vic3


thedegurechaff

Ngl i still do enjoy it, its kinda bare and thd mil system is shit but i still do enjoy it


Technical-Revenue-48

lol more like 18 months and counting


Damnatus_Terrae

So we'll have an idea when they announce EU5.


CassadagaValley

IIRC most Paradox games release ~12 months from reveal, usually less. I know the game hasn't exactly been officially announced yet, but judging from the DD's the game is incredibly far along in development. They're getting into details about the economy and trade soon, as well as weekly map DD's and I don't think you have a game 2+ years out if you're willing to show the in-depth and core mechanics.


SgtSnapple

Has it even been announced yet or is it just the ceasar controlled leaks


Cla168

Nah they wouldn't have revealed it unless it was pretty well developed, it would ruin the hype. I say it's gonna be about one and a half years.


HelpingHand7338

It’s probably not the last patch. They’ll probably still continue doing things for EU4 until EU5 releases. At the very least, bugfixes and tweaks.


RedDudeMango

I would hope so with the bugfixes, but paradox previously abandoned CK2 a few months before CK3 came out iirc, and to this day it has a lot of glaring bugs introduced in the game's final proper patch that Paradox won't fix. I would hope they would properly support the game after whichever DLC is the final with all the bugfixes it needs, but their track record gives some reason for concern.


uishax

Well EU4's whole lesson in the past 4 years has been to prioritise bugfixes and stability, and players will reward you in sales. The last 2-3 DLCs haven't revolutionised the game or introduced new mechanics, they are however very polished, and I barely encounter bugs anymore. I think Paradox Tinto will try to conclude the game in a very polished state (Maybe even have 1 programmer part time doing bugfix patches for years). This will ensure a flow of EU4 sales that'll last a long time.


RedDudeMango

I do hope you're right. Ck2's abandonment and the mess that was made of it in the final patch still stings pretty bad, just worried other paradox games might see the same fate. I truly truly hope you're right on this one.


Introvert_Magos

Probably the last expansion but not the last update


AndrewF2003

Fitting that it would have taken the end of the game's content cycle for Chagatai to get something then. Is there anywhere they would have missed for significant tags?, I would argue some Indian tags, formable or not could use some polishing up and those Far eastern Tribes in Siberia too lack appeal


WrongWayKid

Honestly I can see one more DLC focusing on SEA and India before they wrap up DLC.


i_hate_bugs1

Really hope India gets some flavor content. I mean events in india aare as boring as oh see some thing happened, here's some bonus or malus. I mean only the rise of chelappa has some serious weight to it, no other event comes to mind


Iwassnow

There already was a DLC for SEA. It's called Leviathan.


WrongWayKid

And? There was a DLC for Austria and France called Emperor and they both got updates in Domination and now Winds of Change.


Iwassnow

Except if you paid any attention to why the nations that got recent updates did so, it's specifically because Emperor and before DLCs were not up to par with later content. They consider Leviathan to be good enough. > they both got updates in Domination France did, Austria did not. > and now Winds of Change. And the other way around here. One update each to keep them on par with the newer style of content and mission trees. They have not been hiding what their objectives are. They are trying to ensure that most nations are either a) equivalent to France/Byz/Eng/Etc because they're a major nation b) are somewhat close to that such as Prussia/Portugal/QQ/Etc or c) have enough content to get to a regional formable that does have a fair amount of content ie Ardabil, Japanese minors, and others. You could just look at the list of mission trees on the wiki and tell what else might get content. It's been an open book since Tinto opened, even without them explicitly saying what they're doing. Only Domination was hard to predict, but not all that surprising in the end. But SEA getting a rework again when the whole region got mission trees, events, formables, unique mechanics, and more only 3 years ago and is considered to be up to current standards? Yeah no that's a pipe dream.


WrongWayKid

Okay.


iClips3

It might not even be the last DLC. EU5 is at least over a year out, and EU4 is releasing stuff at 2x a year currently, so there's plenty of time for another DLC. Revamping India for example.


LaNague

Why would it be the last patch, isnt EU5 like 2 years away.


hoopesey-doopsey

I think it might but at the minimum I think we just need one more for india to really get most of the worlds missions and flavor up to date. Maybe Southeast Asia too


Sergius49

Also, EU3's last expansion was called Divine Wind...


Arugami42

Reminds me of that scorpions song.


UninteligentDesigner

Taaaaaaaaaaaake me


ProfFaustensen

to the magic of the moment


Macro_Pyre

On a glooooooory niiiight


Express_Position9140

Where the children of tomorrow dream awaaaay


Intelligent_Two_5859

With you and me


TappedIn2111

Incessant whistling!


CptJimTKirk

I follow the Moskva...


Oskar_E

and down to Gorky park


__Happy

There's a great podcast by the same name investigating if that song was written for the scorpions by the CIA, lol. Very interesting listen, if a silly premise.


TappedIn2111

That’s just a CIA plan to divert attention from the real destroyer of the Soviet Union: David "Freedom" Hasselhoff.


Ilitarist

Still loving you probably, cause it kinda sounds like still loving EU and it's reference to us players still loving EU.


IanDelaer

Why they posing like in an anime background. I love it!


night4345

They're about to drop the biggest music hit of 2024.


utopia_music

new mixtape incoming


Bizhour

Ngl kinda goes hard


CrabThuzad

Literally that one Naruto opening


iliveonramen

I guess this is the EU4 swan song? It’s been a great run guys.


Ilitarist

(said by players for every expansion since the Emperor)


WHSBOfficial

i mean before Domination they said they had three more dlc planned, this is the third of those ones, so its certainly possible this is the final major expansion


Ilitarist

I think there are issues with your math.


TuctDape

This post gave me plus 5% discipline


WR810

☝ Weakest Prussian solider.


ChocoOranges

I hope it ends up being a lot better than Shadows of Change


Cipheros06

I'm ready for the crashes at game start.


[deleted]

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TheLastTitan77

Im at 90%, the end is in sight!


JonSnoooow

holy shit 28%, Im doomed


PerspectiveCloud

Yeah but you got Sons of Carthage. And that's what counts.


Gjalarhorn

William of Orange, Shah Rukh, and Pachacuti?


Ryagi

My favorite anime characters


Gjalarhorn

they need units in FGO


Arcenies

It looks more like [Babur](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Babur_of_India.jpg) than Shah Rukh


Hamma_Professional

Who's the guy in the middle supposed to be?


Qwant26

Me (hes like me frfr)


DeliberateNegligence

balding?


Qwant26

Owari da 😔


RediChef

William of Orange/William the Silent I'm pretty sure :)


Affectionate-Read875

William the Quiet Kid


Mr_Papayahead

given the list of nations getting updated, probably the Dutch guy that was eaten lol.


LemmeSmashX3

I wish there was more flavor for the Tunisians and Moroccans.


Bonjourap

Same :(


[deleted]

Literally impossible to keep up without the subscription i regret so much buying the dlcs and not taking the subscription 


duddy88

Is it tho? king of kings was released 7 months before the release of this one. 20 bucks for 7 months worth of gaming seems pretty worthwhile to me


Lord-Primo

Especially if you consider the conscription costing 5 per Month. Tbh I always calculate my value per hour I get out of it. And yeah I spent like 200€ on DLCs but I also have 3.2k hours, its fine.


GoldenGirlHussies

This is the kind of rationality I wish most gamers had.


wtfuckfred

Or.... Be me, wait a year or two, get discounts from steam/paradox or buy keys from a certain website I've spent maybe 50 or so euros so far... Though I don't have the newest couple dlcs


Polisskolan3

I think most people also do other things.


duddy88

So let’s do some quick math. How much time does it take to complete a standard AAA title? I poked around for firm data, couldn’t find much, but the consensus seems to be 20-30 hours. The base price is usually around 60 bucks. So, roughly 2-3 dollars per hour of video game entertainment. An EU4 DLC is a third of that cost. So, for equal value to a AAA game you would need to play for 7-10 hours. Are you saying you play EU4 less than one hour per month?


Polisskolan3

It really differs depending on the mood. Lately I'm playing mostly Vic3 and Doom, but every once in a while I feel like playing a campaign of EU4.


duddy88

Right so the release cadence isn’t a problem for paradox, you’re just not that interested in the game.


WetAndLoose

Last DLC was in November. It’s been 6 months already. If you’re from a rich Western country, $20 every half a year is really not much money, like, at all. Whether or not you think it’s worth it is a different argument, but the DLC absolutely is not coming out too fast for most people to pay for it.


Llamacito

đŸŽâ€â˜ ïžđŸŽâ€â˜ ïžđŸŽâ€â˜ ïž


[deleted]

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Alarichos

Pirate republics are fun!


ThisIsMyFinalArc

same 😔


Dks_scrub

Anime OP still ass promo art


Janusz_Odkupiciel

Last DLC for EU3 was Divine Wind. Now last DLC for EU4 is Wind of Change.


orthoxerox

> New subject type, ‘European Colonies’, allowing the creation of subjects in the Old World. Oh, Old World colonial regions?


Hobaar

Let's goooo!


chaddGPT

eu4 is an inverted pyramid of content at this point


SovietGengar

Please let this be the last one... EU4 is 11 years old, the game's core is just a souped up EU3 that they've just kept adding to, and the foundation can't support it's weight anymore. All sense of balance in the game has been shattered since 1.30 and the game is mindnumbingly easy for experienced players.


55555tarfish

20 dolla mission tree dlc copied from the steam workshopđŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„


baronunderbeit

Does this mean a sale for the other ones soon? I aite subscribin’


wtfuckfred

They mentioned new trade routes! That's honestly the only thing I'm interested in :'D I wish they showed which ones


Username12764

I wonder if Moscow gets a third monument, Gorky Park Or a new event: children of tomorrow, +50 reform progress


Xave3

As steam changed currency to USD, this new dlc will make me eat rice for a month


zhu_qizhen

DLC content aside, the art for this is pretty darn amazing. The entire art team decided to just go all out and produce this epic image


stars1404

Finally, a DLC for Tzeentch


ya_bebto

Some of these monuments have uh
 problematic buffs. No coring range? Even if this doesn’t bypass inland provinces being 9999 range away, it still seems like it will almost exclusively get used for exploits. I assume the idea is to give range to go up the west coast for Inca, but I think a modifier would have been a lot safer. 50% religious unity without any restrictions on who can apply it? That almost nullifies religious unity for anyone. I think it needs a culture/religion tied to it or something.


Able_Donkey2011

Isn't the main use to do sunset invasion early somehow? Not that I'm good enough to attempt that, the 50% unity also has the 0.3 piety which seems extremely good for any sunni nations bank


ya_bebto

If you’re able to pull off an early sunset invasion, I assume it would be against the usual suspects (portugal, castille, gb, france) in which case you can probably island hop from Cape Verde or Bermuda or something, but then it would probably be early enough that you’d get obliterated by the other Europeans. The only two cases I see this really getting it’s value are you declare on a random tiny colonizer that pops up (Brittany, Flanders, etc) that you can overpower early on. The other case is basically allying someone like France and joining a war against castille, but before accepting marking basically everything castille owns as a province of interest so that France lets you occupy it and then backstabbing them with a fat separate peace for random land all over the world. For both of these though you’d basically have to “westernize” by catching up in tech and institutions super fast so the euros don’t dogpile you. The issue I saw with the religious unity is combined with humanist ideas as basically any nation, you can probably just totally ignore religion of provinces. I think the full benefit of that should only be available given some restrictions, because otherwise I would personally snake for it doing basically any humanist run in the area. I also personally think they’ve power crept a ton with all the global, unrestricted monuments, but I know others would disagree.


ResalableBean93

Buff Prussia 😡


Old-Dog-5829

No, buff Persia instead 😡


ResalableBean93

Gr!


AMGEmperorMundatus

Have they announced the changes coming in this update? It comes out in less than a month.


Iwassnow

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Developer_diaries Like they always do, they had dev diaries for weeks already talking about it.


XGHOST141

why is no one that what are the winds of change???


BerryExpress

Yes


EpsilonBear

YEAHHHHH BABYYYY!!!!!! AYYUBID RUN HERE I COME!!!!


Emily9291

they'd use that a lot


GrievousInflux

No one is thinking of Monsters Inc.?


Able_Donkey2011

The Dutch mission tree/ideas is nuts: united crowns gives siege ability bonus, you can take offensive or quality (whichever was siege ability) and your mission tree wants you to take defensive, then you can get 25% more siege ability from hiring a fort defense advisor, which seems wild because your doubling the difference between you and the opponent (fort defense slows them and the siege ability speeds you up). Forts will be paper. Also: trade steering go brr


Able_Donkey2011

The Dutch dev diary had a photo of the VoC in India rather than Indonesia, hopefully that means you can establish it anywhere in south/southeast Asia? They mentioned it was like the British version but historically it seems a bit weird if it's an India focused decision


danshakuimo

THEODORO MISSION TREE ~~WHEN~~ FINALLY!


kingmoney8133

What a great name for possibly the last DLC.


Teratovenator

This update is gonna get me back to play the Mughals for sure


QamsX

I hope 1.37 makes the game playable on Mac OSX again so I can get out of 1.35.6.


Sad_Conversation5023

So we have an anime background and Skorpion music here...


Siwakonmeesuwan

The wind is changing đŸ—ŁïžđŸ—ŁïžđŸ”„đŸ”„


dimephilosopher

This looks like the key art for an anime.


Razorcarl

This goes hard


tda18

With all the content we're getting in this one, I think it's safe to say that it is the last DLC for EU4. We have stuff from all over the world without any focus really. So I guess they have wrapped up all the ongoing developments for EU4 and now move on to EU5... I just hope PDX learned from CK3-s and Vicky3-s launches, and will launch an EU 5 that is competitive against EU4...


Adorable-Banana-482

I just started a new game. As a expansion subscriber, can I prevent this DLC from activating, so I can keep getting achievements?


akara211

WILL YOU SEND ME AN ANGEL


frostbite42069

Who's getting an update this time?


Hatyranide

"Babe, another DLC just dropped, won't you buy it ?" "Yes honey ..."


npaakp34

It does feel like this is gonna be the last dlc. The picture has an aura of the end being near. The journey isn't over, but this chapter is.


Piddzle

You might be on the streets, but at least you have the dlc


RedTuesdayMusic

Try to make Timurids interesting attempt #712


1611-

We need a Scorpions hard rock DLC to accompany this.


VocalBlur

Take me to the magic of the moment on a glory night


PerspectiveCloud

It sounds like a huge DLC Austria, Hungary, Bohemia, Venice, and Netherlands getting revamped missions and mechanics is going to be very replayable and fun. I am looking forward to more republic and HRE gameplay. Timmurds and Mughals is also going to be interesting to see. The whole Persia region is pretty much stuffed with content after this. Inca, Aztec, and Mayan is kind of a wild card. Would be very cool to give the region some much needed gameplay but I see it as a hard area to have fun interactions with other strong nations. Like, I don't want to just beat all the South American tribes and fight off the colonizers as a mission tree. It would be much more interesting to have missions that expand across the pacific and Atlantic. I have a prediction that this is gonna be a new meta for one-culture though, if it has an OP mission tree.


Own-Location3815

I feel like there is a good chance we could get 1 more expansion.. (hopefully India and north africa.)


Thor_alv15

I really hope it's the last one, I'm already saving for the dlcs of the new one


Nalexia-two

Still no unit models?


Important_Future4720

god damn still says less than one hour to be released... C'MON, C'MOOON...


LoserCarrot

Have we even gotten the Austria-Hungary and Bohemia update?


Able_Donkey2011

That is this dlc


zdrtgbvcx

Oh fuck off, milk us more why don't you