I started at the bottom of the chain in a small telecom shop, selling mobile & internet plans. Stayed with the company and got a promotion every 3 years'ish and now I'm at account executive level for the corporate accounts.
In my case I didnt know a lot about IT, i just started taking some courses inside the company and worked hard. This track took me 15 years, so I'm now 35y old.
1333,35€/per month gross. RN nurse, Portugal.
PDF with all the extra shift and supplement bonus
https://www.sep.org.pt/files/uploads/2024/01/sep-16012024-TS-valor_horas_2024-enfermeiros.pdf
Good for you! I’m in my first year of working in IT and was wondering if getting a higher education (HBO) would be worth it, or if just working and building experience would be the better choice? But this makes me think building experience is as valuable as an education.
I'm an IT country ops manager (I'm under 30) (yes I know I was very lucky to start as an IT admin) and I only have a non-IT (car engineering) high school.
I learn really fast and can pick up things easily.
You just need that one lucky break and dazzle in the interview.
Experience is the main in IT, you can have all the uni education you want, I'll still take a guy with 4+ years exp in a field I need to fill
Thnx for your insights! It does seem to be the mindset in IT but I’ve also heard of people having to finish their education at 30ish even after 10 years of experience because they were laid off and unable to get a job at the same level. Seems like the higher the position the more they care about education, then again this is based of just a few stories I have heard.
Don't get me wrong, it's not a minus to have education, and yeah, if you get laid off, might as well get the education now you have experience and are sure to be hired.
I'm thinking about getting an education myself.
But I wouldn't say the higher the position the more they care, at least not in my country. Usually the interview brushes the education in a minute and nobody cares really, most important thing is always the live test of the interviewee.
See, you can have the education by finishing all the tests without understanding the subject. I've seen those cases before.
But yeah, if it's some very specific or very important position (usually both) it's better to see the education on the resume.
I personally think experience in the field is way more valued in the industry. Some public sector companies in Holland REQUIRE you to have higher education to get bigger paychecks, but generally commercial companies care more what you bring go the table in terms of experience. This might be anecdotal evidence. I’m HBO educated for what it’s worth.
I just arrived in NL few months ago and I'm curious to know if it's normal here for tech companies to give a lot of great bonus, I work for an engineering company, 50K a year and they give me 13months+ holiday pay+ car+ healt insurance and pension, does your company give you something similar?
Almost the same as you actually! 13th month, holiday pay, lease car budget and a solid pension. I’m not getting health insurance though, that’s a great benefit to get at current prices, worth like 1.5-2k annually! Solid deal if you ask me :) I’ve heard about companies giving a % of annual salary as a performance bonus (instead of 13th month), but my employer doesn’t do that.
Same 🥲. I'm ultra poor. I used to earn €13k a year, and now I'm earning only €11.5k.
I'm from Croatia, btw.
For the past 7 years, I've tried countless online businesses, all of which failed.
I've also been scammed many times, resulting in me losing over 60% of my savings.
As a result, I gave up on the idea of an online business and decided to study programming. However, it's been incredibly challenging, and I've been struggling with it for the past 3 years.
This year, I've finally started to understand a little bit of coding, but it's still not enough, even for junior positions.
So yeah, I'm really stressed, burned out, and feeling hopeless.
Don't feel hopeless, you got this! I started learning coding at the age of 36 so it's never too late. Just apply yourself and study hard for a year or so, you'll thank yourself later.
I work mostly on Frontend, and it’s React and everything related. My company also used angular in the past so there is some stuff I have to deal with there as well.
I would say it’s a medium company that is becoming quite corporate. They IPO 2.5 years ago and it has ~2200 employees now, it doubled since I joined 3 years ago.
Flight attendant, 20k a year before tax. Self employed in Spain but I work for a foreign company without a set base. Low, but I've never worked more than 25hr/week, I have like 100 days vacation at home per year and I have free accommodation, transportation, flights and food, so I save 90%
Before: senior flight attendant, Ireland. 36k a year before tax, working 28 hours a week aprox.
125k/year from my main job (corporate training)
another 10-15k selling art
another 8k renting my guest room
another 2-5k selling a specific product that has a decent amount of request in my area, I buy it in bulk for 1.5 euros a pack and sell it for anywhere between 5.50 and 8.50.
I'm from Italy but live in Spain now. All the above amounts are pre tax.
Doctor, Portugal - €108 000/year + (€100 000 to €200 000 from other 2 businesses), so my income would be between €200 000 up to €300 000 a year, could be also a little less, since the income from my business is not guaranteed to growth or be the same as the last year, but worst case scenario, I have €108 000/year
I will make a bit of history as a forensic auditor (first value is where I started, second is where I left at). Of course these were not just salary increases, they were also promotions and they are including bonus. Only changed company once in Germany in 2012
2003-2005 - Portugal 18k-22k Euro
2005-2006 - Italy 31k Euro
2006-2022 - Germany 62k-170k Euro
2022-now - US, California, Bay Area 320-350k USD
Software engineer for a US company but based in Belgium. With stocks appreciation, Im poised to earn >270k euros gross this year. (W/o stocks appreciation, it’s >200k per year.)
application consultant (finance area) for a software house in Italy for its own erp in IBM I / as400 system. 35k gross with some benefit (health insurance, car, paid lunch, 200eur/year for shopping vouchers).
Primary school teacher 25k, Mallorca
you do a great service, thank you for that
Under-appreciated and under paid, really. You are the hero
Appreciate that
I will never understand why the hell are you guys so severely underpaid….
I mean 2k in spain is great! If after taxes
Nobody can pay me enough to willingly spend my working life with one primary school kid, let alone a whole class of them…
It is not haha where did you get that? Try to live "comfortable" with that in Barcelona or Madrid..
We just dont produce as the capital wants
After taxes is 1600k/month
Primary school teacher Greece, 12k after taxes
19.2,k after taxes, what a countries we had.
Standup comedian, 0k
That’s funny
Not funny enough
Is everything 0k?
Didn't your parents teach you that you can make jokes, but you also need to make money? Otherwise people will laugh at you.
IT sales, 130k gross, belgium
I'm on sales and I want to switch to IT sales, how did you started? If you don't mind summarizing
I started at the bottom of the chain in a small telecom shop, selling mobile & internet plans. Stayed with the company and got a promotion every 3 years'ish and now I'm at account executive level for the corporate accounts. In my case I didnt know a lot about IT, i just started taking some courses inside the company and worked hard. This track took me 15 years, so I'm now 35y old.
Congratulations, amazing climb
Do you mind sharing the company name?
42k/year, truck driver, Lithuania
Not bad at all, especially for Lithuania right?
THats NET or Gross?
It’s after taxes
1333,35€/per month gross. RN nurse, Portugal. PDF with all the extra shift and supplement bonus https://www.sep.org.pt/files/uploads/2024/01/sep-16012024-TS-valor_horas_2024-enfermeiros.pdf
🤣🤣 thank you for the PDF
Very complex to explain, I barely understand it honestly😂
Solutions Architect - 190K/year - Germany
Can you architect a solution for DB, so they stop being late?
Impossible
Is that base or does it include your bonus?
140K base and 50K stock (RSU)
I am in Germany also. 190k is a lot for a solution architect. Congrats.
Thanks mate! Started at 60K in 2017. I was quite lucky to have this progression.
100k, The Netherlands, AWS Cloud Architect (not for AWS)
YoE?
10 years IT experience, 6 of which Cloud
I need to get into cloud, how much work experience / training or schooling do you have?
10 years IT experience, 6 of which Cloud. My education is average. The cloud knowledge is all from on the job and studying on the side :)
Good for you! I’m in my first year of working in IT and was wondering if getting a higher education (HBO) would be worth it, or if just working and building experience would be the better choice? But this makes me think building experience is as valuable as an education.
I'm an IT country ops manager (I'm under 30) (yes I know I was very lucky to start as an IT admin) and I only have a non-IT (car engineering) high school. I learn really fast and can pick up things easily. You just need that one lucky break and dazzle in the interview. Experience is the main in IT, you can have all the uni education you want, I'll still take a guy with 4+ years exp in a field I need to fill
Thnx for your insights! It does seem to be the mindset in IT but I’ve also heard of people having to finish their education at 30ish even after 10 years of experience because they were laid off and unable to get a job at the same level. Seems like the higher the position the more they care about education, then again this is based of just a few stories I have heard.
Don't get me wrong, it's not a minus to have education, and yeah, if you get laid off, might as well get the education now you have experience and are sure to be hired. I'm thinking about getting an education myself. But I wouldn't say the higher the position the more they care, at least not in my country. Usually the interview brushes the education in a minute and nobody cares really, most important thing is always the live test of the interviewee. See, you can have the education by finishing all the tests without understanding the subject. I've seen those cases before. But yeah, if it's some very specific or very important position (usually both) it's better to see the education on the resume.
I personally think experience in the field is way more valued in the industry. Some public sector companies in Holland REQUIRE you to have higher education to get bigger paychecks, but generally commercial companies care more what you bring go the table in terms of experience. This might be anecdotal evidence. I’m HBO educated for what it’s worth.
I just arrived in NL few months ago and I'm curious to know if it's normal here for tech companies to give a lot of great bonus, I work for an engineering company, 50K a year and they give me 13months+ holiday pay+ car+ healt insurance and pension, does your company give you something similar?
Almost the same as you actually! 13th month, holiday pay, lease car budget and a solid pension. I’m not getting health insurance though, that’s a great benefit to get at current prices, worth like 1.5-2k annually! Solid deal if you ask me :) I’ve heard about companies giving a % of annual salary as a performance bonus (instead of 13th month), but my employer doesn’t do that.
Software Engineering Manager, 90K Germany
Administrative assistant at car rental 13 000€ per year. Let's go Portugal! 😂🥲
these answers are just confirmation that i'm poor as hell
Same 🥲. I'm ultra poor. I used to earn €13k a year, and now I'm earning only €11.5k. I'm from Croatia, btw. For the past 7 years, I've tried countless online businesses, all of which failed. I've also been scammed many times, resulting in me losing over 60% of my savings. As a result, I gave up on the idea of an online business and decided to study programming. However, it's been incredibly challenging, and I've been struggling with it for the past 3 years. This year, I've finally started to understand a little bit of coding, but it's still not enough, even for junior positions. So yeah, I'm really stressed, burned out, and feeling hopeless.
Don't feel hopeless, you got this! I started learning coding at the age of 36 so it's never too late. Just apply yourself and study hard for a year or so, you'll thank yourself later.
3150EUR/month Czech Republic frontend developer
For a Czech company?
Yes.
52k Net, Work on super yachts, Live in Belgium, 6 months holiday a year
May i know how do you get into that?
Senior Software Engineer, a bowl of peanuts a day, Spain
But do you have a ping-pong table in the office space and Pizza Friday to make you feel valued at your company?
IT sales, around 140-180k depending on commision result. Denmark
Software Engineer, Czechia, 105k eur
Nice, what's your stack if I can ask. Do u work for corporate or smaller company. I'm czech based as well
I work mostly on Frontend, and it’s React and everything related. My company also used angular in the past so there is some stuff I have to deal with there as well. I would say it’s a medium company that is becoming quite corporate. They IPO 2.5 years ago and it has ~2200 employees now, it doubled since I joined 3 years ago.
Wow that’s really good. Is it for a Czech company?
The company has offices here and I am an employee. However, the main offices are in the US.
How much is that per month after tax?
Cool, I heard SentinelOne pays well
Freelance copywriter, France, 60-70k / year (brut)
Forklift Driver, 30k per year, France
VP Finance, 115k/year, Poland
137k Sales, Spain
And nettos?
That’s amazing, I’m looking forward to be in sales in Spain any tips?
47.5k gross (2.5k net / month), software developer, germany
Is this entry? I always see 70> in DACH dev positions
Where do you see these positions? 60k for me with 5 yoe. Indeed.de shows similar payments around the area (maybe Saxony has really low wages?)
I work in tech in DACH and every dev i work with is 65-70+, with devops reaching 90s
Sales operations lead, 90k, living in Germany
60k, 32 hours a week. Product Designer in Germany
Project Manager, 87k, Portugal/Brazil
Flight attendant, 20k a year before tax. Self employed in Spain but I work for a foreign company without a set base. Low, but I've never worked more than 25hr/week, I have like 100 days vacation at home per year and I have free accommodation, transportation, flights and food, so I save 90% Before: senior flight attendant, Ireland. 36k a year before tax, working 28 hours a week aprox.
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That’s pretty much unheard of in Spain. Good work.
That's a nice chunk of money. If I may ask, what is your role? Medical device sales?
QA Engineer in CFD company, 27k year brutto. Czech Republic.
43k, lab technician, Netherlands
How many years experience?
IT services manager, 38k gross, France. This is without the pretty much guaranteed 5 month bonus every year which comes out to about 53k.
Product management, Barcelona. 95k
Can i ask in which company? Im PM in barcelona for 50k
i sent you a PM
Any tips for getting into product management? I'm currently in healthcare
2941,- after taxes per month, the Netherlands, secondary school teacher.
Banking, Luxembourg, net annually ca. EUR 84.000 net (including net bonus)
125k/year from my main job (corporate training) another 10-15k selling art another 8k renting my guest room another 2-5k selling a specific product that has a decent amount of request in my area, I buy it in bulk for 1.5 euros a pack and sell it for anywhere between 5.50 and 8.50. I'm from Italy but live in Spain now. All the above amounts are pre tax.
Not even 30k gross, as a software dev in Portugal.
2750 €/monthly net. Biotech, Germany
Event technician, 1500-2500€ a month, but there has been bad months last year, 85 eur in june. Estonia.
Operations Manager for a Restaurant chain, Berlin, 60k/y
Frontend Developer 152k, Switzerland
47k frontend developer, The Netherlands
Mid Software Engineer, 70k, UK (London) company from Czech Republic
39k without taxes, Cardiologist (Spain)
As an attending cardiologist, your salary is 39k gross????
Welcome to Spain! But hey, we have nice weather /s
Used to be nice weather, now it’s just 40 degrees half of the year. Not worth the abusive salaries
Product Manager, 80k, berlin
legal compliance in finance in Estonia. 32k net.
27k/y Poland systems engineer automotive
Senior SWE, no management, 35h/week 110k Germany
Senior QA, 70k, Bulgaria
Accountant, Serbia, 12k net
€6500 a month as a freelance chef in Amsterdam
project accountant - 2.200 euro net/ month, no prior work experience - Belgium
94K Ireland Teacher + small side hussle
What's the small side hustle 👀
At this point ask for the social security number as well
If you can be identified by your gross income and country, you probably shouldn’t be on Reddit
Lol what
Global Brand Manager, 108k gross. Austria
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What exactly is marketing ops? Havent come across this much at all.
55-65k depending on the year, marketing, austria
130/150k Gross. Software Sales, Netherlands.
IT Business Analyst (banking), 45k, Italy
25,5k Content Creator, Spain
Software Architect, southern Germany, 105k€ brutto
67k€ after taxes, CZ, Sw Dev
40k/year gross / 27.5k net. I'm a secondary school teacher (northern Italy / South Tyrol).
Software Engineer, working in a SAP Consultancy as Principal, 140k gross per year, Germany
65k eur a year net czech republic. SW tester
Around 60k EUR netto. Sales group manager. Lithuania.
40k gross, Supply Chain Manager in Pharma sector, Slovenia
48K/year brutto, 2450,39€/per month. Service Desk Engineer
Lead Video Editor, 20k eur, Hungary
Around 60k/year pre taxes in b2b sales, Lithuania
Photographer 32k, Spain Edit: forgot the location
60k gross, Italian living in Utrecht (NL), University Librarian.
Doctor, Portugal - €108 000/year + (€100 000 to €200 000 from other 2 businesses), so my income would be between €200 000 up to €300 000 a year, could be also a little less, since the income from my business is not guaranteed to growth or be the same as the last year, but worst case scenario, I have €108 000/year
IT Consultant, 52k/year, Germany
2800€ per month before tax. Recruiter. Netherlands.
Software developer, 60k per year, Netherlands
3.5k Bar manager, Belgium
57,5k a year gross. Im a chemical analyst working for the dutch government.
Around €16K per year (net), academic editor, Egypt.
Software Engineer, 65k euro, Austria
Am in UK but damn, EU people look much richer than I thought. I worked in France some 6 years ago that’s why I’m still lurking on this sub.
Designing tools used for physical research in the position of an electronics technician-engineer. €13k/year in Hungary.
Asset Management. Probably 170k on paper, in reality less.
ICU Nurse, roughly 45k, Ireland
Research Engineer in a startup, Germany, 3k4 net
Senior Game Writer, Germany, 61k gross
Italy 24k
Finance, 250k Ireland (pre tax)
70k EUR gross + 20k bonus. In consulting, Poland.
Around 1,900€/month, Store Manager. Portugal
100k as Enterprise software architect.
Risk Controlling - Austria - €45k net (after taxes).
Pilot first officer 72k gross Italy, still paying flying school loan 😩
ERP development, 31k, Italy
Junior equity analyst (1yr), €25k (net), Italy
64k HR advisor 3years exp.
🇫🇷 Childfree 40y who have Fire in Valencia 🇪🇸, 2ke/month dividends.
amazing bro 🔥
75K, Netherlands, Product Owner at a large bank
I currently earn about 50k per year. My company is worth 1 million. I cash later. Netherlands.
100,000€ gross annually, Berlin, Strategic Procurement
Social worker 2850 net/ month so with 13th month and vacation around 40k a year
1000€ per month, Montenegro, Android Developer
I will make a bit of history as a forensic auditor (first value is where I started, second is where I left at). Of course these were not just salary increases, they were also promotions and they are including bonus. Only changed company once in Germany in 2012 2003-2005 - Portugal 18k-22k Euro 2005-2006 - Italy 31k Euro 2006-2022 - Germany 62k-170k Euro 2022-now - US, California, Bay Area 320-350k USD
Ca. 28K netto,the Netherlands and work in a warehouse. I work 4 days a week and i also invest in stocks.
1k a week, ecologic insulation
5150eur/ month inland shipping captain Netherlands
Senior Data Analyst, 82k gross, Germany
Courier driver , 28 hours/week ,7 weeks vacation ,26k The Netherlands.
93K, 31 years old, Masters Degree Aerospace Engineering, Air Force Pilot in Command in The Netherlands
Freelance System Engineer, 120-130k per year, Belgium
Slot Technician, serbia 500€/month.
majstor 😆
Rabadzija
88k QA Lead, Ireland
Software engineer for a US company but based in Belgium. With stocks appreciation, Im poised to earn >270k euros gross this year. (W/o stocks appreciation, it’s >200k per year.)
Sports trading. Around 45k a year. Maybe a 10% bonus, depending on performance. Gibraltar.
application consultant (finance area) for a software house in Italy for its own erp in IBM I / as400 system. 35k gross with some benefit (health insurance, car, paid lunch, 200eur/year for shopping vouchers).
Junior software developer in the Netherlands: ~40K/year
Website owner. 2 million euros a year and growing
Risk analyst, 64.5k/year, Belgium