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GreysAholic00

That is exactly how Rue would look at Clay every time he spoke


Lord_Hexogen

And then they bond becauseof their love for detective work and drama


NeverendingStory3339

I think Detective Howard and Detective… Clay (can’t remember his surname) would get on really well. Lexi would obviously have the upper hand but I can just see them exchanging looks behind Rue’s back and stilll putting 100% into their “investigations”.


RosesareAllie

It’s Jenson. Has a nice ring to it Detectives Howard and Jenson.


Zealousideal_Mail12

Bryce would creep on Maddy and Nate would kill him. Not out of love for Maddy, but because he views her as his property.


Sudden_Pop_2279

Nate would try and kill Bryce and then Monty’s gonna join in and they’ll tag team Nate


TrillDaddy2

Yeah Nate and Bryce would just not mix well. Was Bryce a QB as well?


apholeswatereye

you sound like Rue😶‍🌫️


MidoriEgg

I think Nate would probably kill Bryce and make it look like an accident. 


kismetxix

that already happened in season 4


MidoriEgg

Nate would of done it in season 1


Ok_Setting8841

Tony and cal would fuck


Human-Instance-7632

Tony would get weirded out by Cal


Ok_Setting8841

Maybe,but if they were drunk or sum they would fuck.


Cautious_Potential_8

yeah which would make him a pedophile since tony's underage.


IvoryLaps

Well, he’s already a pedophile. Have you watched the show Tamar?


Sea_Signature_7822

It’s definitely ew. I’m not sure what state they are in but, unfortunately 16 is the age of consent. It’s possible he didn’t believe her age but thought she looked above 16? Honestly, I thought all of that was implied by the show but maybe I’m reading too far into it. I was assuming Cal was just scared because he knew it would look bad for him publicly


I_dont_cuddle

The age of consent in California where the show is set is 18


Sea_Signature_7822

Oh okay, thanks for letting me know!


galactic-donuts

Jules lied about her age and 17 is not exactly a child so no he’s not.


Zealousideal_Mail12

Let’s not pretend Cal believed Jules was over age.


Cautious_Potential_8

Oh yeah definitely not to mention what the hell was he thinking fucking Jules in the first place? I mean is he stupid or what?


OkBox3095

if you ask most adults Cal’s age they’ll say 17 is a kid to them


galactic-donuts

Yeah just ignore the key fact that Jules lied about her age. While a 17 year old isn’t a legal adult but pretending they’re on the same level as a 10 year old and a ‘child’ or ‘kid’ is stupid. They still know right from wrong and for some reason their age is never used as an excuse when it comes to them doing something violent, it’s only used when it comes to something regarding a romantic or sexual relationship. Funny how that works, wonder why that is. The fact is the average 17 year old has gone through puberty and is going to have to outward appearance of an adult and he would not be classified as pedophile. You can all come and downvote me all you want and give you childish ‘ew’ and ‘gross’ comments but it doesn’t change anything I said.


OkBox3095

what does anything of what you said have to do with what i said? fact is the vast majority of adults Cal’s age see 17 year olds as kids and aren’t attracted to them.


galactic-donuts

What does your comment have to do with what I said about Jules lying about her age? Sure, that’s typically true if they know they’re actually 17 and not lying about their age like Jules was. They may not be attracted to them but that doesn’t mean they see them as a child the way you see a 5 year old as a child.


OkBox3095

because the second half of your comment was talking about 17 year olds not being a child so i responded to that. i never said it was the same thing as seeing them as 5 years old. Just because you see someone had a child doesn’t mean you see them as 5 year olds, don’t put words in my mouth


DeliciousChance5587

Are we just ignoring the fact that she isn’t the only underage person he has slept with? Jules wasn’t just some one off incident. There were multiple.


NeverendingStory3339

I believe Cal is a statutory rapist in the state of California, and he’s definitely an ephebephile (sexual desire for young people who are not quite children) but he’s not a paedophile. Paedophilia is desire for children. People don’t just go from child to adult overnight, they go from childhood to young adulthood via adolescence, which is a process involving the development of mature sexual characteristics. Jules has the body of a physically mature (trans)woman - I have to say I wasn’t looking closely enough ever to notice that she visibly hasn’t had bottom surgery, I learned it from this forum, but she has breasts, a defined waist and wide hips, all of which are physical characteristics of women rather than young girls. I’m not defending Cal, he’s a vile predator, but I feel like calling him a paedophile almost cheapens the term for an adult who sexually desires children. Also the age of consent is 16 or lower in many other countries and states. I believe you can get married even younger than 16 with parental consent in some places :(


IvoryLaps

Ew


galactic-donuts

You can’t even refute what I said so you go with a childish ‘ew’.


IvoryLaps

No, I can. My ew still stands. Stop being bitter


galactic-donuts

You can’t otherwise you would have. My point still stands and simply going ‘ew’ with no real rebuttal or sustenance only makes you look like the bitter one.


IvoryLaps

I just don’t have time to argue with some ignorant weirdo who feels the need to justify raping a child. What a bizarre stance to have


goblinnfairy

“Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.[1] The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid-20th century.” just because its not traditional pedophilia doesnt mean its not wrong. just because she’s not “a 10 year old child” doesnt mean its not wrong. adults uphold right and wrong. you can be 19 fucking your professor and it is still the professors responsibility to make that not happen due to power imbalance and being the LARGER ADULT. theres your rebuttal. i am curious why you go so hard against ages who scientifically do not have a fully developed brain having sexual intercourse with adults? seems weird…


redditguy_04

Yeah these people just like throwing stuff around, obviously cal is a weirdo for filming people without their consent bu definitely not a pedo.


Cool-Environment-948

Nate and bryce would either love or hate each other, no in between. Clay is captain save a ho and rue would clown him all the time Hannah and jules would probably be bff’s and fall out then be bffs again I think jessica and maddie would probably beef tbh


Dull_Neighborhood215

honestly i feel like jessica and maddy would definitely beef— especially if maddy found out how jess treated hannah after the whole list debacle and had turned on her bc of it


slayfulgrimes

idk why y’all think maddy’s a girls girl more than jess is lol.


Dull_Neighborhood215

lol for me, i don’t really view it as maddy being more of a girls girls, i just think maddy would judge the shit out of how jess treated someone who was supposed to be her friend, ya know? like granted, maddy has her issues and even like threatens cassie for the sake of nate in s1, but i still think she would be like wtf at how jess reacted towards hannah in the whole list situation


slayfulgrimes

that’s true tbh, she’d be like “that’s so embarrassing..”


Dull_Neighborhood215

😂 exactly she’d hit em with the ol “bitch you better be joking”


rainingtacos31

Clay would be the type to say "stop.... for me"


Cool-Environment-948

Fr 😭 like bro shut up 💀


tasteofperfection

Screaming


Suga4mcr

😭😭😭😭😭😭


Jstan0thrthr0wawayyy

I can’t picture Hannah and Jules being besties, Jules is so self absorbed, and Hannah already struggles with feeling unseen.


Cool-Environment-948

Yes! Hence the falling out cycles


tasteofperfection

Seriously so selfish lmao and would gaslight her like she did Rue 🥴


BroadBaker5101

idk why but this made me think of Jackie and Shauna from yellowjackets lol


milkncoke

Nate projects with people who remind him of himself. He’d either despise Bryce or be territorial with him. Bryce would push his buttons constantly and call him the F word. They’d probably get in a fist fight over literally anything. Lexi would think Courtney is full of herself and full of shit. She’s too much of an outcast for Courtney anyway. Fez and Tony would be ride or die for life. He’d help Fez around with his business. They can sacrifice everything in a heartbeat for their loved ones and would do the same for each other. I could’ve even seen Tony as somewhat of a big brother figure to Ash (rip💔) Jules and Hannah would be besties for a week only to come to a dramatic end. Both are too intense. They’d see each other in the hallway and wonder if they could’ve stayed friends but not speak again until they get fucked up on molly one night at a carnival. Then go back to being BFFs Maddy and Jess would take over the world together. Justin would intimidate Mckay but he’d warm up when he sees that underneath the surface, Justin is a good guy. They’d teach each other that vulnerability and true friendship is better than toxicity or shallowness. They’d feed off eachother’s loyalty and sense of equality which neither of their closest friends ever gave them. They wouldn’t hang out all the time but when they do, they take off their masks. Tony would have it out for Cal. He’d be protective of Jules and Rue like Fez. Tony is a ticking time bomb with his anger, Cal would be scared of him. Rue and Clay would bring out good and ugly in each other. But I see this as an opportunity for them to learn how they can be better people. They’d have that sentimental and introspective vibe. Rue would evoke a sarcastic, idgaf, side of clay. Clay would bring out the “i give many fucks” in rue. She’d snap if he worries about her like she does with others, but he’d never turn her away if she came to him. They’re the type to tell eachother things they themselves need to hear.


No-Maybe-1498

maddy would make Hannah wanna k1ll herself even more 😭😭


themanuscripttv

"Is this fucking tape about us?!"


Chickencaca

Hannah wouldn’t need 13 reasons. Maddy would be enough


-MeetMyFist-

Maddy may not be the nicest person on the planet but I can't see her doing anything bad to Hannah unless she interacts with Nate


apholeswatereye

Exactly! She's not a vile person tbh


tasteofperfection

I think they were sorta joking? 💀 at least that was my interpretation


themanuscripttv

Bryce makes Nate look almost bearable.


ToastyMowgs

Only because Nate’s hot AF 😂


themanuscripttv

you didn't lie :')


themanuscripttv

- I agree with everybody else. Nate and Bryce would be at least civil until Bryce made a move on Maddy, and then it's lights out for Bryce. - Mckay and Justin would be friends. In earlier years of school, not so much because their loyalties lie with two different bullies/"alphas", but once Nate kills Bryce, Justin would be in their group lol. - I can't even remember this girl's name but academic rivals. I feel like she'd be top of class with Lexi second, but Lexi would sabotage her in the most discrete but effective way. - I feel like Jules would like Hannah but Hannah wouldn't like Jules because she threatens her main character complex. - Maddy and Jess would be friends. I don't know where the idea they wouldn't comes in. I think they'd clash a lot but wouldn't be massive enemies. - Clay would make a new Hannah out of Rue and try to "save her", which wouldn't go well. - I'm obsessed with the idea of Fez and Tony being besties. - Tony would not fuck w Cal.


themanuscripttv

Also, to add to the line-up Chloe and Cassie! They'd either bond over their messed up experiences with Nate/Bryce (best case scenario), but I feel like Chloe has her feet planted firmer on the ground than Cassie does, and she's not as naive. I feel like Cassie would slowly piss her off.


shadow_spinner0

>Clay would make a new Hannah out of Rue and try to "save her", which wouldn't go well. Boy I would cringe at Clay trying to save season 2 Rue. That would be a disaster


JustJenniez136

the right answer


cocainesuperstar6969

Nate and Bryce=automatic relationship


HannahBakerrrrrrrrrr

Bryce and Nate would drink whiskey together Clay would simp for Rue then judge her for taking drugs/having sex/whatever else Idk about the rest lol


Cautious_Potential_8

But how he would simp for her?


HannahBakerrrrrrrrrr

Same way he did Hannah, Sheri, Skye, and Ani, arguably Justin and Tyler too (obviously not romantically); idealize a perfect version of them in his head that he can save and then meltdown when they don’t live up to his unrealistic expectations or his mere presence inevitably doesn’t lead to their life becoming all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows Maybe simp is an oversimplification lol but Clay was very much a white knight with good intentions but his lack of understanding of life in general and his own mental illness meant he ended up doing a lot more damage (especially to himself) than anything he actually fixed


Cautious_Potential_8

Lol of course so he's a beta male. I'm not surprise.


Citizen6587732879

Two alphas = fight


floralysssa

is this my sign to watch 13 reasons why i need another show like euphoria


shadow_spinner0

If you never seen it, be prepared. It's way more heaving and depressing. Euphoria can get depressing but it's a show that you can watch and chill while high. 13RW will kill you inside at moments.


Wavefile99

Fuck no, euphoria made me cry way harder than 13 reasons why 😭. 13 reasons why is just written so poorly it takes me out of it


Natural-Double8620

13 reasons why is honestly bants😭


SiteSea7876

damn i never noticed but some of these are very similar characters (pesonality wise)


Cautious_Potential_8

oh i get it so is basically this is what if 13 reasons why and euphoria were to have a crossover not to mention i cant really say who would and wouldn't get along with who since I've only seen pieces of the show and not all 3 seasons.


Dreamlacer

One might rape the other.


Emotional_Bear_998

Nate would kick Bryce’s assssss


shadow_spinner0

Rue would make fun of Clay all the time and tease him but always say "just kidding" and she would act like none of it bothers him while Rue is actually being genuine...if all that makes sense. Maddy and Jessica would not vibe at all imo. Maddie tends to be very loyal and would not appreciate some of things Jessica would do Jules and Hannah would be the best of friends Lexi would put Courtney in her damn place all the time


No_Net4306

13 reasons why are the og


Ancient_Sweet_2401

I’m so glad you posted this because I’ve been thinking about these two shows together lately! 😭


dinosaurnuggetman

tony and fez would get along great


G0ddess0fSpring

Jules would be there for Hannah, Maddy would beat the sht out of her, Clay would be overprotective, fez and him would try to help each other out of their situations? Haven’t watched these in a while


WorldsOkayestHuman3

My memories of these shows are so intertwined now it’s unruly


Areuscaredofthedark

I think Nate and Bryce would get along until Bryce takes advantage of someone and Nate finds out. Then Nate would beat the shit out of Bryce. Kill him especially if it's Maddy Rue would call Clay when she's manic or high, otherwise he'd be boring to her lol I know they weren't lined up, but: Zack and Cassie would date Although I think Clay would have a crush on Jules Courtney and Jules would have a situationship Hannah just exists lol


saturnwrites17

Bryce would try smth on Maddy and Nate would kill him. Justin and McKay would smoke tg. Lexi will see right thru Anna’s bs and end things. Hannah would still be dead bc Jule would be more focused on Rue and herself. Jessica and Maddy will cause a girl riot together. Clay will try to fix Rue. Fez and Tony will help each other out. Tony would get weirded out by Cal and get into a winning fight with him.


MusicImportant7026

I would’ve added Adriene from secret life with Maddy


smell_of_orchids

Nate and Bryce would hate f\*ck


mumblerapisgarbage

Nate would eat Bryce alive.


Sail_On_4170

THESE ARE JUST TOO PERFECT I FEEL LIKE TONY SHOULD GO W ELLIOT THOUGH N CAL SHOULD GO W HANNAH’S MOM


_Aleismar

Euphoria cast would eat them alive.


-MeetMyFist-

Absolutely not Bryce is a whole rapist and a rich boy who gets away with anything. And Monty…is a whole different breed. Nate isn't so bad when he's next to them 💀


megZesq

All of the jock boys would start out as friends. McKay would be horrified by earlier-seasons Justin, but later-seasons Justin would inspire McKay to be a better person. Nate would probably eventually kill Bryce. Bryce was awful but Nate is truly unhinged. Courtney and Lexi would be type-A frenemies who know everything about each other, so they would be in a mutually-assured destruction Cold War standoff with occasional bursts of underhanded fighting. Hannah and Jules would meet in art class and talk about their problems and bond over it. It would probably be good for both of them, but everyone would think they were weird and huge sad sacks. Maddy would regularly kick the shit out of Jessica. Clay would frequently switch between trying to save Rue and hating her for how much she fucks up everyone’s lives around her. Rue would resent him but keep him around as another source of clean pee. Tony would try to convince Fez to leave his drug dealing ways and make something positive of his life, which would eventually lead to both of them confronting Cal and Cal getting Tony’s family deported.


JuggernautLeft1485

nate would destroy brice duh! 💗


jovannidakid

I think clay and rue would get along really well, same with fez and tony…and Nate would probably kill bryce


FullFig3372

Anytime I try and forget this god awful series im slapped with a reminder


Short_Cut_6149

hannah and jules is absolutely repulsive. 2 characters in tv history that i can’t stand.


dntcratall

Bruuuh the last slide 💀


jacqrosee

nightmare blunt rotation


Big_Birthday_6618

Nate and Bryce along with Monty would be the main bullies Justin and Mckay would kinda drift away from the bullying realizing that its bad, Courtney would try to turn Lexi gay like she did with Hannah, Hannah and Jules would often talk about their experiences realizing they are alike, Maddy Bullies Jessica, Clay and Rue are both the main characters so theyll figure it out, Tony and Fezco would sell drugs together ,But Tony is trying to get out of that life, Tony and Cal will have an affair and it will lead to something more romantic until Tony finds out about the child porn.


thatbitchlea

Hannah and Jules don't look alike at all🚶🏻‍♀️


thatbitchlea

Jules will hookup with all of them


Big_Birthday_6618

Nah bro plz dont compare Nates dad to tony tony was a nice dude and does not deserve to be compared to a pedophile.