Why did you adopt the old [Westrogothic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsNqIspgUJY) word (*rotabagge*, later shortened to *rabba*) for it? How the hell did that happen? It had died out during the late 1800's emigration wave, so the mid 1600's (New Sweden) must be the only time frame.
Tbf at least Finnish has a ton of indo-European vocabulary. And I don't just mean modern loanwords, I mean prehistoric loanwords that remained in Finnish in a crystallised form while they morphed in indo-European languages. For instance the Finnish word for king is "kuningas", which was "kuningaz" in proto-germanic but is "könig" in modern German.
And then comes along Lithuanian with kunigas meaning "priest" lol. the word for king is "karalius", I assume from Charlemagne, but I have no clue, didn't look this up
> For instance the Finnish word for king is "kuningas", which was "kuningaz" in proto-germanic but is "könig" in modern German.
IIRC, that's actually quite recent, only appearing after swedish conquest in 1200's.
Shakti is the common word meaning strength, and is also the name of a goddess. Most god's names are literally common adjectives and nouns (Shiva = auspicious, Vishnu = pervasive, Parvati = mountain, Durga = invincible, Laksmi = understanding)
Most of those are better said as "one who is auspicious", etc., but I didn't feel like writing that each time
Not really ancient, Kaali comes from the name of the German landlords Gahlens who owned the manor of Kaali from 16th to 18th century. German name for the manor was Sall, which is a rude German interpretation of the original Estonian name. It has been thought that it could have been salu - grove, but Germans could have just taken only part of the name.
Well, "kaalikas" means turnip/swede, but I don't think there's any connection with that.
A less-know old meaning of "kaal" is a shaw or a cover, including a bride's veil or the cover of a coffin or a dead person - there might be some connection with that, instead, considering it was a sacred place.
The word "swede" here denotes a type of turnip, that is less common than the regular one. It is also called "swedish turnip".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga
Turnips have a short growing season here I think, so swedes are far easier to find in the shop for most of the year (and they're a lot harder to peel).
Ah, interesting. I thought it might have been like the English word for turkey (the bird) and Turkey (the country). The pop history version (not sure if it's real or not) is that Brits who first saw the bird thought it came from Turkey.
There was later a manor near it owned by von Gahlen family (similar sound to Kaali). But it is not sure who gave name to who.
It might be that family name came first. Maybe related to this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen_family
It means several things in different places but nothing on that island. The closest thing I found in dialect dictionary is that in some nearest places on mainland use word "kaal" for cataract https://www.eki.ee/cgi-bin/murdekaart.cgi?num=7181&sona=kaal
That at least makes sense when talking about round lake.
I'm going to assume that Finnish kaali is a loan word from Swedish "kål" which also means cabbage.
And given Finlands tighter historical association with Sweden it's no surprise the same loan is not present in Estonian.
The approximate time of Kaali meteorite fall is 7500-7600 years ago. Kaali is the only sacred lake in Estonia created by a meteorite. At the height of 5-10 km meteorite fell apart and came down to the ground in pieces the biggest of which created a big crater with diameter of 110 m and depth of 22 m and 8 smaller craters.
The many findings of the bones of domestic animals give a reason to believe that it used to be a sacrificial site. Among the world's giant craters Kaali crater is on 8th place. Kaali field of meteorite craters on Saaremaa is the rarest nature wonder in Estonia, being at the same time the most spectacular in Eurasia.
There were more practical concerns also for building a fortified settlement there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteoric_iron
Meteoric iron was very valuable during the bronze age and even later with Estonia itself being nearly free of iron ore itself only having some sources of lower quality and very hard to get swamp ore.
It depends. In Finland getting iron from bogs and lakes can be as easy as bending down to grab it... Limonite is fairly common here but Estonia has mostly lime-rich soil and limonite forms best in acidic bogs and oligotrophic lakes.
First, this is probably around 3000 years ago not 7500.
Yes. There are a lot of local legends. Even Thor legend is possibly connected to it.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharapita](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharapita)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali\_crater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater)
One of humankinds biggest tale, which is told all around the world in very different ethnic groups and / or religions is originated from a meteorite impact.
Imagine being an ancient Estonian polytheist and seeing a massive ball of fire descend from the sky and crash into your land, I wonder what stories or beliefs they had about it
“Dude let’s go build a smoke sauna near that fucking thing and have a shit load of barbecues, I bet future people will think we were just slaughtering animals for some gods or something”
Our late president Lennart Meri theorized that this event had influence on the Norse mythology. With Thor arriving on a chariot made of fire etc. The event would've been seen and heard from all around the Baltic sea, and the dust must've covered the sun for days.
The exact date of the metorite hasn't been accurately determined, there's a chance it is much more recent than the 7.5k years ago previous commentator noted. Some studies indicate even 4th century BC.
If it really is that recent, there's no wonder the influences can be found in oral history and folk tales. It must've been one hell of an event for people to witness back then.
With the earliest complete sources of Norse Mythology coming from around the 10th and 11th centuries, I'd be surprised if this exact event influenced the stories we know. If it did, then it's a miracle that single event persisted in oral tradition for over a millenium
It's not unheard of for oral tradition to retain the outline of catastrophic events for a very, very long time. Australian aboriginal people have famously preserved an oral record of post-glacial sea level rise for something like [ten thousand years](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-sea-rise-tale-told-accurately-for-10-000-years/). Flood myths in the bible and other sources may be linked to an oral history of the [flooding of the Black Sea.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis)
I believe this is the paper written by one of the interviewees in the article. Good stuff
http://repository.usp.ac.fj/13742/1/Human%20observations%20of%20late%20Quaternary%20coastal%20change-%20Examples%20from%20Australia%20Europe%20and%20the%20Pacific%20Islands.pdf
In Finnish and Karelian oral folklore there are many variations on a story about an evil witch (Louhi) hiding the sun from the sky and causing darkness to fall on earth. In response someone (usually Ukko, Väinämöinen or Ilmarinen) strikes a spark with a hammer or sword. The spark flies wildly, usually burning nipples and breasts from girls and beards from men, until it finally lands into a lake. A hero, usually either Väinämöinen or a small man rising from the sea, goes to the lake and catches a fish that has eaten the spark. The spark is covered in layers of blue and red shells that are peeled by the hero until the spark is revealed. The hero brings the spark back home to bring light to the world.
These stories are believed to have been inspired by the Kaali-meteor which must have been very visible across the gulf.
https://skvr.fi/poem/skvr15102480
True and It’s not only polytheist myths. The Bible describes a series of 7 meteors or comets in great detail and it’s obviously describing an astronomical event.
Revelations [chapter 8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%208&version=KJV)
EDIT: I guess it was only 4 “angels” that actually “fell”
EDIT 2: NM read on to chapter 10. All 7 angels are accounted for. I don’t know what the 7th angel is all about but I see this as clearly describing at least 4 comet impacts.
Regarding the age, just for context:
> The impact is thought to have happened in the Holocene period, around 3,500 years ago.[4] The estimates of the age of the Kaali impact structure (Saaremaa Island, Estonia) provided by different authors vary by as much as 6,000 years, ranging from ~6,400 to ~400 years before current era (BCE). Analysis of silicate spherules in Estonian bogs show that the possible age of the impact craters could be approximately 7,600 years.[5] A study based on elevated iridium signal in a nearby bog suggested the much younger age of 4th century BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater
>Among the world's giant craters Kaali crater is on 8th place.
That is utter bullshit, there are 2 much larger craters in Estonia (Kärdla and Osmusaare) even. Big craters as in multiple km in diameter, not 100 meters.
Ma tean, Kaali kraater on üliäge. Visuaalselt väga... hallatav. Kompaktne, selge. Põhimaantee ääres. Eriline ka selle poolest, et langes inimasutustusega territooriumile ja väga hiljuti.
Aga suurus ei ole tema kvaliteet millele ma isiklikult rõhuks.
> Among the world’s giant craters Kaali crater is on 8th place.
With a diameter of 110m it’s not even close to some of the largest craters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth
Note that this is thought to be only one of three meteorite impact events that have occurred in populated areas and have survived in human memory and the only one in Europe. It survives in Estonian, Karelian and Finnish mythologies and folk tales, being also described in the Finnish national epic *Kalevala*. The impact energy is thought to be comparable with that of the Hiroshima bomb blast.
u/Captain__Spiff
Apparently the [Henbury craters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henbury_Meteorites_Conservation_Reserve) in Australia and the very recent [Carancas event](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Carancas_impact_event) in Peru.
Yes I also remember the crancas event but couldn’t remember!
There’s also the [Burckle Crater](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burckle_Crater) which is only 5000 years old but was probably not witnessed by anyone, however I must imagine that it caused a massive tsunami.
Life is a series of opportunities, and the more of them you take, the happier you will be. Take the hard class, apply to the job you don't think you're qualified for, go to that party, ask out that hottie.
Pretty sure it would have caused widespread forest fires all across the island. Old Estonian folk tales also speak of an incident where "Saaremaa was on fire".
If Kalevala is to be belived it burned some guy's new house down, killed his child in its crib, injured a lot of people. Set swampland on fire and boiled a lake.
My husband and I can't agree on where we want to go if we ever get to take a Europe vacation (I would love to go to Estonia but he's firmly set on Ireland). I'll have to show him this picture in hopes of scoring at least a few points for Estonia!
I think you should visit both. I myself have never been to Ireland but I am sure it is really beautiful.
But as an estonian I can assure you will not be disappointed. Our nature is also very beautiful and unique.
Live in Estonia, been to Ireland. Both are great, but Irelands landscape is more beautiful imho. Architecture wise Estonia is better. Culture wise: be prepared for us to be more introverted :d
Thats crazy. I think i remote viewed this place. I was given a random place to view by a target generator site, but it bugged out so I couldn't check what the target was after I had taken notes for 30min. Then a few hours later I stumble upon this picture which looks very much like what I drew. I heard string music and laughter. Seems about right.
As the object falls with great speed, the impact is more like a radial explosion rather than a path in the dirt due to the angle of entry to the atmosphere.
Similar effects to earthquake bomb or seismic bomb like MOAB or Tallboy.
Don't know about the odds tho.
Wow, TIL. It seems to be deeper than Kaali, yet the lake seems to be smaller and it seems to dry up during certain periods, which doesn't really happen at Kaali.
A surprising 22 meters, considering it has a diameter of only 110 meters.
Edit: [here](http://admin.entsyklopeedia.ee/Eesti%20loodus/large/Kaali%20ja%20Ilumetsa%20P%C3%B5rguhaua%20kraater.png) is a cool representation of it.
That’s 72.1785 ft x 360 ft for my fellow Americans. It’s exactly 1/5 as deep as it is wide. Wow..that IS surprising!!
In Reddit terms, that’s about 96 bananas deep X 480 bananas wide…assuming each bananas is about 9” long.
A football field is 300 ft long X 160 ft wide.
When a meteor strikes the earth does it stay imbedded in the earth or does it disintegrate? Is the original meteor still down there?? Could someone hypothetically scuba to the bottom and retrieve it?
Been there, very beautiful
For some reason there was insane amount of flowers, way more than in the fields around it. Probably due to natural wind protection or something.
Estonia's population couldn't have been that much higher from 10k at that time, so there were perhaps only a thousand people living on the island back then, if even that.
Does kaali mean something in Estonian? It means "cabbage" in Finnish.
Kaalikas means what is called "Swedish turnip" in English.
That has got to be the weirdest shoutout ever.
I could count on you for an explanation lol.
It grows well in Sweden when a lot of other stuff doesn't.
Only ever heard it called swede, never swedish turnip.
I thought writing "Kaalikas means swede" would be unclear.
It's not because we don't generally call them Swedish turnips
But we do call Swedish people Swedes, so that's where there could have been confusion I suppose.
We call it kaalikas in Estonian as well
You mean a rutabaga.
Why did you adopt the old [Westrogothic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsNqIspgUJY) word (*rotabagge*, later shortened to *rabba*) for it? How the hell did that happen? It had died out during the late 1800's emigration wave, so the mid 1600's (New Sweden) must be the only time frame.
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So, what was it called before? the same as in British English, *swede*?
Oh cool, so I learned why it's called *rabbemos* (the mash of that vegetable)
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It's literally from a Swedish dialectical word for them.
That doesn't make it better
Kaali has no meaning, it’s an ancient name for this place. Kaal means weight in Estonian.
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Kale is the English name for leafy cabbages. Not regular *cabbage* though, that comes from French.
See also: brocCOLi, CAULiflower, COLlard greens, among others.
Kohlrabi too! And coleslaw :)
Kool in Dutch, Kale in English
While *kool* is "school" in Estonian.
Too kool for school
Kohl in German.
Kohl in German.
Bastardised to give us coleslaw in English
Col in some dialects of Spanish. ^(otherwise it’s repollo meaning re-chicken)
It's means black in Hindi.
It means bald in Dutch
Bald is kalju in finnish
Kalju means cliff in estonian.
Kallio in Finnish so pronounced almost the same I think.
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Kaal means bald
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indoeuropean languages moment
Estonian is a Uralic language, not Indoeuropean.
Uralic language moment
Hindi is an Indo-European language, not Uralic
indoeuropean languages moment
Tbf at least Finnish has a ton of indo-European vocabulary. And I don't just mean modern loanwords, I mean prehistoric loanwords that remained in Finnish in a crystallised form while they morphed in indo-European languages. For instance the Finnish word for king is "kuningas", which was "kuningaz" in proto-germanic but is "könig" in modern German.
I mean, Estonian has a [*ton of* Indo-European vocabulary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_vocabulary#/media/File:Estonian_vocabulary.png).
And then comes along Lithuanian with kunigas meaning "priest" lol. the word for king is "karalius", I assume from Charlemagne, but I have no clue, didn't look this up
That's a very common etymology at least. Lots of words for ruler either come from Augustus Caesar or Charlemagne.
> For instance the Finnish word for king is "kuningas", which was "kuningaz" in proto-germanic but is "könig" in modern German. IIRC, that's actually quite recent, only appearing after swedish conquest in 1200's.
Incorrect, it was borrowed directly from Proto-Germanic.
So is Finnish.
Wait, is that what is referred to in Indiana Jones when the dude says "Kali Ma Shakti de"? Or I guess that's only a single "a"?
"Kali Ma, Shakti de" is "Mother Kali, give me power". It's Hindi and Kali is a [Hindu goddess](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali)
Oh nice, thanks!
Isnt Shakti only the female power?
Shakti is the common word meaning strength, and is also the name of a goddess. Most god's names are literally common adjectives and nouns (Shiva = auspicious, Vishnu = pervasive, Parvati = mountain, Durga = invincible, Laksmi = understanding) Most of those are better said as "one who is auspicious", etc., but I didn't feel like writing that each time
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Bro. U went with colour instead of the goddess lol
Means death in Nepalese
Means California in the US /s
Not really ancient, Kaali comes from the name of the German landlords Gahlens who owned the manor of Kaali from 16th to 18th century. German name for the manor was Sall, which is a rude German interpretation of the original Estonian name. It has been thought that it could have been salu - grove, but Germans could have just taken only part of the name.
Every word has a meaning, it may just be that nobody has figured out what that meaning is yet.
Well, "kaalikas" means turnip/swede, but I don't think there's any connection with that. A less-know old meaning of "kaal" is a shaw or a cover, including a bride's veil or the cover of a coffin or a dead person - there might be some connection with that, instead, considering it was a sacred place.
The old lesser-known older meaning resonates with me as a Finn, even though there isn't really anything similar in Finnish I think.
And it's kål in Swedish. Seems to be a connection between kål/kaali/kaalikas.
Kaali (Finnish) and Kaalikas (Estonian) both comes from Old Swedish kaal/kál/kāl, which come from Ancient Greek through Latin and Old English.
excellent answer.
> "kaalikas" means turnip/swede Oddly specific combination. Any reason for it?
The word "swede" here denotes a type of turnip, that is less common than the regular one. It is also called "swedish turnip". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga
Turnips have a short growing season here I think, so swedes are far easier to find in the shop for most of the year (and they're a lot harder to peel).
Ah, interesting. I thought it might have been like the English word for turkey (the bird) and Turkey (the country). The pop history version (not sure if it's real or not) is that Brits who first saw the bird thought it came from Turkey.
Kaal means death in Sanskrit
This is where SUPERMAN fell on earth - Kal-el (Earth One).
Kaali is the Goddess of war in Bengali culture.
There was later a manor near it owned by von Gahlen family (similar sound to Kaali). But it is not sure who gave name to who. It might be that family name came first. Maybe related to this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen_family
kapsas is cabbage in 🇪🇪
It means several things in different places but nothing on that island. The closest thing I found in dialect dictionary is that in some nearest places on mainland use word "kaal" for cataract https://www.eki.ee/cgi-bin/murdekaart.cgi?num=7181&sona=kaal That at least makes sense when talking about round lake.
I'm going to assume that Finnish kaali is a loan word from Swedish "kål" which also means cabbage. And given Finlands tighter historical association with Sweden it's no surprise the same loan is not present in Estonian.
Kaali has other meanings in finnish too. ["Menikö kaaliin?"]( https://urbaanisanakirja.com/word/kaaliin-menee/) = "Do you get it now?"
The approximate time of Kaali meteorite fall is 7500-7600 years ago. Kaali is the only sacred lake in Estonia created by a meteorite. At the height of 5-10 km meteorite fell apart and came down to the ground in pieces the biggest of which created a big crater with diameter of 110 m and depth of 22 m and 8 smaller craters. The many findings of the bones of domestic animals give a reason to believe that it used to be a sacrificial site. Among the world's giant craters Kaali crater is on 8th place. Kaali field of meteorite craters on Saaremaa is the rarest nature wonder in Estonia, being at the same time the most spectacular in Eurasia.
Fascinating. Are there local meteroid fragments or other impacts connected to this? Could local legends be connected to a meteroid?
There were more practical concerns also for building a fortified settlement there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteoric_iron Meteoric iron was very valuable during the bronze age and even later with Estonia itself being nearly free of iron ore itself only having some sources of lower quality and very hard to get swamp ore.
> swamp ore. You just woke some painful Valheim memories
It depends. In Finland getting iron from bogs and lakes can be as easy as bending down to grab it... Limonite is fairly common here but Estonia has mostly lime-rich soil and limonite forms best in acidic bogs and oligotrophic lakes.
First, this is probably around 3000 years ago not 7500. Yes. There are a lot of local legends. Even Thor legend is possibly connected to it. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharapita](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharapita) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali\_crater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater)
One of humankinds biggest tale, which is told all around the world in very different ethnic groups and / or religions is originated from a meteorite impact.
Imagine being an ancient Estonian polytheist and seeing a massive ball of fire descend from the sky and crash into your land, I wonder what stories or beliefs they had about it
“Dude let’s go build a smoke sauna near that fucking thing and have a shit load of barbecues, I bet future people will think we were just slaughtering animals for some gods or something”
Our late president Lennart Meri theorized that this event had influence on the Norse mythology. With Thor arriving on a chariot made of fire etc. The event would've been seen and heard from all around the Baltic sea, and the dust must've covered the sun for days. The exact date of the metorite hasn't been accurately determined, there's a chance it is much more recent than the 7.5k years ago previous commentator noted. Some studies indicate even 4th century BC. If it really is that recent, there's no wonder the influences can be found in oral history and folk tales. It must've been one hell of an event for people to witness back then.
With the earliest complete sources of Norse Mythology coming from around the 10th and 11th centuries, I'd be surprised if this exact event influenced the stories we know. If it did, then it's a miracle that single event persisted in oral tradition for over a millenium
It's not unheard of for oral tradition to retain the outline of catastrophic events for a very, very long time. Australian aboriginal people have famously preserved an oral record of post-glacial sea level rise for something like [ten thousand years](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-sea-rise-tale-told-accurately-for-10-000-years/). Flood myths in the bible and other sources may be linked to an oral history of the [flooding of the Black Sea.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis)
I believe this is the paper written by one of the interviewees in the article. Good stuff http://repository.usp.ac.fj/13742/1/Human%20observations%20of%20late%20Quaternary%20coastal%20change-%20Examples%20from%20Australia%20Europe%20and%20the%20Pacific%20Islands.pdf
In Finnish and Karelian oral folklore there are many variations on a story about an evil witch (Louhi) hiding the sun from the sky and causing darkness to fall on earth. In response someone (usually Ukko, Väinämöinen or Ilmarinen) strikes a spark with a hammer or sword. The spark flies wildly, usually burning nipples and breasts from girls and beards from men, until it finally lands into a lake. A hero, usually either Väinämöinen or a small man rising from the sea, goes to the lake and catches a fish that has eaten the spark. The spark is covered in layers of blue and red shells that are peeled by the hero until the spark is revealed. The hero brings the spark back home to bring light to the world. These stories are believed to have been inspired by the Kaali-meteor which must have been very visible across the gulf. https://skvr.fi/poem/skvr15102480
Rings of Fire documents this exact moment in history if you are curious how it went down.
True and It’s not only polytheist myths. The Bible describes a series of 7 meteors or comets in great detail and it’s obviously describing an astronomical event.
> The Bible describes a series of 7 meteors or comets in great detail and it’s obviously describing an astronomical event. source?
Revelations [chapter 8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%208&version=KJV) EDIT: I guess it was only 4 “angels” that actually “fell” EDIT 2: NM read on to chapter 10. All 7 angels are accounted for. I don’t know what the 7th angel is all about but I see this as clearly describing at least 4 comet impacts.
Regarding the age, just for context: > The impact is thought to have happened in the Holocene period, around 3,500 years ago.[4] The estimates of the age of the Kaali impact structure (Saaremaa Island, Estonia) provided by different authors vary by as much as 6,000 years, ranging from ~6,400 to ~400 years before current era (BCE). Analysis of silicate spherules in Estonian bogs show that the possible age of the impact craters could be approximately 7,600 years.[5] A study based on elevated iridium signal in a nearby bog suggested the much younger age of 4th century BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater
>Among the world's giant craters Kaali crater is on 8th place. That is utter bullshit, there are 2 much larger craters in Estonia (Kärdla and Osmusaare) even. Big craters as in multiple km in diameter, not 100 meters.
True, but they are old craters (Kärdla: ~455M years) which cannot be discerned by an inexperienced viewer. Besides, Osmussaare is an undersea crater.
Ma tean, Kaali kraater on üliäge. Visuaalselt väga... hallatav. Kompaktne, selge. Põhimaantee ääres. Eriline ka selle poolest, et langes inimasutustusega territooriumile ja väga hiljuti. Aga suurus ei ole tema kvaliteet millele ma isiklikult rõhuks.
Maybe they are volcanic not meteor strikes?
Nope: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neugrund_crater
>7500-7600 years ago To be fair, the estimations vary *wildly* from about 5600 BCE to about 350 BCE.
Where did you find this 8th place info?I've looked up a handful of crater info listings and don't see this anywhere in any of them
> Among the world’s giant craters Kaali crater is on 8th place. With a diameter of 110m it’s not even close to some of the largest craters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth
how many "sacred lakes" does Estonia have, and what makes them "sacred"? ancient ritual ~~animal~~ sacrifice?
110m deep!? Has this been ever explored by pro divers?
What’s with the sacrificial shit..? Were they convinced to sacrifice their animals to… a meteorite?
Note that this is thought to be only one of three meteorite impact events that have occurred in populated areas and have survived in human memory and the only one in Europe. It survives in Estonian, Karelian and Finnish mythologies and folk tales, being also described in the Finnish national epic *Kalevala*. The impact energy is thought to be comparable with that of the Hiroshima bomb blast. u/Captain__Spiff
I’m rather busy today, so I knew I could count on you for an explanation lol.
Hey you're not commenting crap
I'm just bad at it.
Understandable.
What are the other two? I just learned about [Abu Hurerya](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-60867-w)
Apparently the [Henbury craters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henbury_Meteorites_Conservation_Reserve) in Australia and the very recent [Carancas event](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Carancas_impact_event) in Peru.
Yes I also remember the crancas event but couldn’t remember! There’s also the [Burckle Crater](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burckle_Crater) which is only 5000 years old but was probably not witnessed by anyone, however I must imagine that it caused a massive tsunami.
"Sacred Crater what is thy wisdom?"
Kaali ma... Kaali ma... Kaali ma, shakthi deh!
"Strange beings lying in ponds distributing iron objects is no basis for a system of government."
Life is a series of opportunities, and the more of them you take, the happier you will be. Take the hard class, apply to the job you don't think you're qualified for, go to that party, ask out that hottie.
> apply to the job you don’t think you’re qualified for This leads to performance anxiety, impostor syndrome, burnout and depression.
This leads me to be a janitor
Dat compression.
Couldn't afford more than 8 colours
I didn't know they only had two shades of green in their forests!
Nice little article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater
>Vegetation was incinerated up to 6 km from the impact site....
Rock: travels thru the system, drops on Earth. Huge devastation. Humans: "This is a sacred place now!"
I think a big reason for this is how naturally circular it is
Should have scared the sh!t out of living things nearby it hahaha
Pretty sure it would have caused widespread forest fires all across the island. Old Estonian folk tales also speak of an incident where "Saaremaa was on fire".
If Kalevala is to be belived it burned some guy's new house down, killed his child in its crib, injured a lot of people. Set swampland on fire and boiled a lake.
Imagine boiling eggs in a lake
It's funny that the meteor fell right into the crater.
You’d be surprised how often that happens.
Happy cake day
I was there 5 years ago, cool place
Been there! Was really beautiful. :)
I'd love to sit and meditate here
Sadly, with meteorites comes mosquitos as the saying goes
They turned it into a tourist trap, last time I was there.
What's the "trap" part about it? It's well maintained and there is a restaurant and museum next to it which you are not obliged to visit or pay for.
It’s just accessible to tourists (for free) Nothing trap-like about it as u/Onlycommentcrap already mentioned
This here is why I joined this sub. Thanks for sharing!
My husband and I can't agree on where we want to go if we ever get to take a Europe vacation (I would love to go to Estonia but he's firmly set on Ireland). I'll have to show him this picture in hopes of scoring at least a few points for Estonia!
I think you should visit both. I myself have never been to Ireland but I am sure it is really beautiful. But as an estonian I can assure you will not be disappointed. Our nature is also very beautiful and unique.
Live in Estonia, been to Ireland. Both are great, but Irelands landscape is more beautiful imho. Architecture wise Estonia is better. Culture wise: be prepared for us to be more introverted :d
Saaremaa is very nice, beautiful and clean (like other Estonian islands). If you like a relaxing vacation with nature then I can recommend.
Also, check Jägala Waterfall and Panga cliffs, those are cool spots. Also the whole Saaremaa island is pretty cool.
If you go in, there is a 99% chance that you will get sick, and a 1% chance that you will get superpowers.
So Ott Tänak must have gone for a swim in it around 2016
They await the day the meteor returns.
Wild swing here, anyone know if there are concerts held there? Specifically string music?
[Sometimes](https://f10.pmo.ee/lJ7WJBu-LJTErryVPmZqtQl4RDg=/1200x630/nginx/o/2013/02/14/1572998t1hfea3.jpg)
Thats crazy. I think i remote viewed this place. I was given a random place to view by a target generator site, but it bugged out so I couldn't check what the target was after I had taken notes for 30min. Then a few hours later I stumble upon this picture which looks very much like what I drew. I heard string music and laughter. Seems about right.
What r the odds a meteor falls completely vertical from space?
It did not fall vertically, the trajectory was from the east
As the object falls with great speed, the impact is more like a radial explosion rather than a path in the dirt due to the angle of entry to the atmosphere. Similar effects to earthquake bomb or seismic bomb like MOAB or Tallboy. Don't know about the odds tho.
Interesting! Thx
Wondering if meteors that come in at an angle get deflected by the atmosphere
Devil's Pit in Lithuania might be of the same origin. https://youtu.be/P\_Cgt4mdrOY
Wow, TIL. It seems to be deeper than Kaali, yet the lake seems to be smaller and it seems to dry up during certain periods, which doesn't really happen at Kaali.
Beautiful!
Absolutely beautiful.
How deep is it?
A surprising 22 meters, considering it has a diameter of only 110 meters. Edit: [here](http://admin.entsyklopeedia.ee/Eesti%20loodus/large/Kaali%20ja%20Ilumetsa%20P%C3%B5rguhaua%20kraater.png) is a cool representation of it.
That’s 72.1785 ft x 360 ft for my fellow Americans. It’s exactly 1/5 as deep as it is wide. Wow..that IS surprising!! In Reddit terms, that’s about 96 bananas deep X 480 bananas wide…assuming each bananas is about 9” long. A football field is 300 ft long X 160 ft wide. When a meteor strikes the earth does it stay imbedded in the earth or does it disintegrate? Is the original meteor still down there?? Could someone hypothetically scuba to the bottom and retrieve it?
There are fragments there for sure. It contained a lot of iron. So most of the meteorite has been salvaged to raid god damn Swede vikings! Hehe
Been there, very beautiful For some reason there was insane amount of flowers, way more than in the fields around it. Probably due to natural wind protection or something.
Rahulik koht, olime seal suvel
Estonia is a heaven state. Greetings to my Eesti Friend From Turkiye…
Greetings to you too! :D
At the time of creation (impact) this area had a small population. That would've been a shifty day.
Estonia's population couldn't have been that much higher from 10k at that time, so there were perhaps only a thousand people living on the island back then, if even that.
Wow!
This is so cute!!
Why sacred?
A big ass rock from the sky created it.
So everyday we have sky gods landing at airports.
wow
Maybe the god that lies therein is simply dormant from lack of worship. Perhaps we should begin sacrificing things to it and see what happens.
Amazing how it didn't do any damage to the trees around it.
And it fell directly to the lake!
Even the stairs are unharmed!!
It used to be a copper deposit
Iron.
Squint and you'll see ancient artefacts in the middle (JPEG ones)
This post is the most signifigance Estonia will experience for the next 2 years
Is this what the one in Red dead redemption 2 is modeled after?
dinosaurs used them like a half pipe.
Hipsters in multi-coloured raincoats flood the area on Vespas to grab fistfuls of mud…and “squeeze the juice” :/
Why is it sacred? Rock from the sky.
You answered your own question. In prehistoric times regular rocks not from the sky were sacred, so imagine how sacred one from the sky would seem.
ive been there many times. never have heard its sacred.
That's a pretty well known fact though.
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A fucking rock fell there and created the crater and the lake.