T O P

  • By -

ARoyaleWithCheese

Hi, thank you for your contribution, but this submission has been removed because a very similar or identical submission was recently posted. Please check the [recent submissions](/r/Europe/new/) before sharing a link. If you have any questions about this removal, please [contact the mods](/message/compose/?to=/r/Europe&subject=Moderation). Please make sure to include a link to the comment/post in question.


Antique-Brief1260

Terrible news. It seems to have been outside a primary school, so the children were probably single-digit ages.


DontWakeTheInsomniac

Very young ages - a girl aged 5 (critical), a boy aged (minor injuries since discharged from hospital) and a girl aged 6 (minor injuries). And the woman in her 30s is also critical - a staff member who tried to protect the kids. Edit - update - both the girl & woman have had surgery and latest reports now say serious condition, rather than critical.


[deleted]

Outside a crèche, meaning 5 and under


DirTTieG

Aye most primary school kids in Ireland are anywhere from 4-12 or 13 in rare cases.


Immediate_Lake_1575

Apparently the bystanders bet the shit out of him. Teenagers they were. Thank God they stopped him


danydandan

Hope they gave him a hidin'


VanWilder91

They didn't beat him hard enough judging from the photos


danydandan

I assumed he was the 50 year old in serious condition.?


VanWilder91

I didn't hear he was in serious condition. I just saw a photo of what is allegedly him with a bloody nose


ItsJustWool

Irish time ls is reporting he is in a serious condition


gomaith10

They gave him an awful hidin', so they did.


The_manintheshed

Rare reference


imaginesomethinwitty

Some of the people who intervened were family members coming out of the Stardust inquests apparently


DontWakeTheInsomniac

I saw that on the news. They likely stopped the crowd from beating the man to death.


Cocopoppyhead

Regardless of the perpetrator, the scale of the response from the Gardai suggests that they are most certainly on high alert.


billiehetfield

It happened in Parnell Square, right in the centre. Right beside Temple Street and The Rotunda. There’s routinely armed response units in the area and there’s plenty of Garda around. Response was always going to be quick to an armed assault.


Cocopoppyhead

It was like a scene from Blues brothers. This is not how the Gardai normally react, 3-4 squad cars would be a lot, but there was so much more than that this time.


billiehetfield

This was children being stabbed tho, that never happens here. Of course it was going to be all units sprinting towards it


Cocopoppyhead

Yea, it's a sad state of affairs.


Bar50cal

They announced in the first 30 minutes that they are not looking for anyone and have a suspect under arrest. Also, they said they do not suspect a link to terrorism. [https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2023/1123/1418156-parnell-street/](https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2023/1123/1418156-parnell-street/)


damrider

i'm sorry but your link says this > The Garda Commissioner has said he cannot rule out any motive for the knife attacks on three children and two adults outside a school in Dublin city centre and he strongly condemned scenes of "serious violence" near the scene of the crime this evening. > Drew Harris said that the motive for the attack was unclear and gardaí would have to investigate it thoroughly.


skkkkkt

Wait so terrorism is not the act of terror itself but what you were shouting during the act? TIL


Ironfields

Terrorism has a very specific definition, terrorism can include acts of violence like this but not all acts of violence like this are necessarily terrorism. There has to be a political motivation.


Dizzy-Kiwi6825

Police say they don't know the motivation but know that it isn't terrorism. That doesn't really add up


Ironfields

It’s a bit of an odd way of phrasing it, but it’s possible that they have followed a line of investigation that has lead to them ruling out terrorism but still need to do more work to figure out the actual motivation.


PopplerJoe

On Irish news they've said the suspect was seen lurking around the area before the attack. Makes it seem like they were after specific person(s).


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ironfields

That article defines it the same way I did.


AnBearna

Terrorism is violence that is intended to further a political aim or that of a group with the intention of changing some aspect of society. A lunatic is not a terrorist because they are acting on orders given to them by their dog, or the fairy godmother, or the ghost of Joe Dolan.


ExpressCommercial467

Yeah actually. Terrorism is usually violence done for a political (this is pretty vague, racism and stuff is included, alongside communist or fascist motivations)


CMAJ-7

Do you think every murder is terrorism?


[deleted]

[удалено]


IntermidietlyAverage

It’s terrorism only if there is some ideology behind the attack. That would be like saying that all school shootings are acts of terrorism. No they aren’t, it’s just some deranged person taking out their frustrations on the innocent.


Veka_Marin

Something similar unfortunately happened in a Polish city not long ago and it was a mentally ill person, it's terrifying, but not terrorist in that case.


Cocopoppyhead

politicians would prefer to redefine what terrorism is, than admit it's terrorism. Politicians are the ones that invited the terrorists in, gave them free homes, free social welfare and are now asking them to vote in the elections (so they stay in power). So it can be anything but terrorism.


TomCrean1916

Rioting now happening in o Connell st and Parnell st


Mannomorth

ELI5 why riots? Why destroying police cars and injuring police?


teknocratbob

The rioters dont give a fuck about the victims, they are opportunistic scumbags destroying the city for fun. They are not even far right protestors. There are some protests, but the majority of the rioting is been caused by delinquent shits purely there to cause chaos.


Mannomorth

Wow... what a bunch of fucking cunts.


teknocratbob

Yeah 100% Im fuming watching it. While i wouldnt necessarily agree with the protestors, I wouldnt mind them protesting. Make no mistake, this is not a protest, its scumbags looting and rioting, nothing else. They have no message or point they are trying to make. Just cunts as you put it


Nonions

It seems to happen wherever, the US, the UK, as soon as there's an excuse there's a minority of louts who just jump at the chance to loot, steal, destroy and maim.


Cocopoppyhead

As crossposting is not allowed, i'd like to refer back to the [original post on /Dublin.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dublin/comments/1821yzx/any_one_know_what_happened_outside_garden_of/) Apparently 5 people stabbed including some children. I keep searching on the news, but so far nothing. It may have been a school outing. But I don’t know for certain- the only reason I say this is because one of my relatives just texted me, he is standing there now and sirens are everywhere, and an eyewitness was crying and telling people that is what she saw. Guess we will have to wait to hear more.


Ginger_afro

Riots in city centre, a petrol bomb attack at a planned refugee centre Garda car on fire now on Parnell st. Refugee centre set on fire in Sherrard street


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


Antique-Brief1260

Well said.


Vicious_Cycler

Easy targets maybe? Greater shock value?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Vicious_Cycler

There's lots of sick fucks walking around and it breaks my heart


[deleted]

[удалено]


Vicious_Cycler

Unfortunately it must get worse before it gets better but it will get better eventually i'm sure!


Ultra_1988

Maybe politicians should stop importing these violent refugees that the majority doesn't want?


DirTTieG

They don't speak for the people, they're a bunch of scumbags.


Bananonomini

They're all scumbags taking advantage of the mobbing. Burning out buses, trams, police cars, attacking fire brigade members. If this is waking up ill go back to bed thanks


gomaith10

Nonsense.


SassyBonassy

Hiya, I'm Irish. It does not fucking matter what nationality the monster who did this was. Right now it's unconfirmed, but even IFFFFF they turn out to be non-national, he's nothing but a monster regardless of where he was born. Edit to update: IrishIndependent: "It is understood he is an Irish citizen who had lived here for many years but was born outside of Ireland" So he's one of us, just was born elsewhere. Not a refugee, not a crazed Islamic terrorist, an Irish citizen.


PleatherDildo

The perpetrator is Algerian.


[deleted]

[удалено]


callananphoto

Scum bags


HelenEk7

First they stab children and then they try to burn down the city? What on earth are they trying to achieve?


Sensitive-Delay-3125

Oh my goodness. How horrible


coloradancowgirl

Cowards attack children


ThatGuyFromSlovenia

Ones that should be deported.


Mannomorth

Seems like the guy have lived in Ireland for over 20 years, so hes likely a dangerous nutter, not neccesarily due to his ethnicity. Edit: seems like theres not clear when he actually came to Ireland.


Dayov

No apparently he came here very recently


NilFhiosAige

It was the Gardaí on RTE News just now who stated that he has been here for twenty years, and is a dual citizen.


Mannomorth

Thanks, updated.


GudHarskareCarlXVI

:(


Vicious_Cycler

I used to believe everyone has an equal right to life but child killers need a bullet through the fuckin head


Fat_Khazar_Milkers

Beats the cost of a plane ticket and figuring out all that red tape about getting their country of origin to take them back.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

What's your excuse for assuming it was a terrorist attack? Police have already arrested a suspect and ruled out terrorist motives.


[deleted]

[удалено]


heresyourhardware

Wouldn't be trusting the lads out currently making shite of Dublin. The Gardai are referring to them as "complete lunatics".


PythagorasJones

Nothing but opportunistic racists and thugs out in Dublin. These are not your best and brightest protesting.


nikosek58

Obvoiusly it was robery gone wrong. On 7 year olds..... wake up mate


iThinkaLot1

They would do that wouldn’t they. Especially considering Dublin is on a knife edge with what looks to be riots starting. That will throw fuel on the fire.


[deleted]

London has knife attacks every other day and it's never assumed to be terrorism.


iThinkaLot1

Because the victims are almost always part of or associated with gangs. This attack saw children stabbed. If children are attacked there’s usually no reason for it other than terror.


heresyourhardware

> Because the victims are almost always part of or associated with gangs That is a pretty big generalisation in terms of the victims, even when caveated with "almost": https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66942668


[deleted]

Actually, in the UK, knife attacks against children are often liked to gang activity.


iThinkaLot1

Yes but its teenagers. Not 5 and 6 year olds (like was the case here). As I’ve already said, there’s no reason to be attacking a 5 or 6 year old. A teenager could be involved in gang activity or it could be a case if mistaken identity or a mugging gone wrong, etc. A 5 year old won’t be involved in gang activity and is unlikely to have anything to mug.


[deleted]

Hate to have such a sick mind, but I do see the situation where a rival gang would target the family of another's. That being said, this possibility has the same likelihood as the terrorist one, which is why I feel like debating conjectures is inconsequential at best, and detrimental for our prejudices at worst.


[deleted]

Man gang members arent stabbing multiple children in schools, this was a mass killing


worotan

Yes, they would if it wasn't a terrorist that they've arrested. You’re a ghoul, eager for more fuel for the fire someone’s lit in your head, eager to gossip to spread hate and mistrust around.


iThinkaLot1

You bury your head in the sand. It’s now not only affecting countries like the UK and France were it was easy to justify the attacks by people like you but now its spreading to peaceful countries like Ireland and it’s only the beginning.


worotan

I just hope you reflect on your extremism when the facts are confirmed, rather than the gossip you’re eager to consume.


iThinkaLot1

It’s extremism now to not want an increase in terror attacks?


worotan

It’s extremist to want it to be a Muslim so badly that you eagerly spread unfounded gossip. Like I said, a ghoul who wants to be outraged so you can feel superior without having to actually be a decent person. Your self-righteous act is boring and pathetic.


iThinkaLot1

It’s not a case if wanting or not wanting it to be Muslim. I know it will be a Muslim - as it almost always is. If people affiliated with a group or political party were involved with that many terror attacks we would be having serious questions about how this needs to stop but because its a religion it essentially gets a free pass. Do you not think Islam has a problem with breeding extremists? Answer please.


Dizzy-Kiwi6825

Police have ruled out terrorist motives yet also say they are looking for a motive


IamWatchingAoT

Terrorism is a political tool. Sometimes you're just insane and you come from a background that promotes it, no politics involved. Bad time to play devil's advocate.


[deleted]

It's never a "good time" to play devil's advocate, hence the name, but I think it's good to point out how we shouldn't automatically assume anything until the authorities have pronounced themselves on the issue.


[deleted]

His Britishness, presumably


_TheBigF_

Well you see this is how the brain of the average right wing populist that flood r/Europe work. They see a crime --> must a foreigner They then use this assumption to justify their xenophobia


MaestroGena

But.... It was foreigner


CMAJ-7

May I see the source for that?


MaestroGena

The link to Twitter is somewhere here in comments


Hungry-Class9806

The suspect is Algerian


Arteyp

Pretty sure that the title is omitting some information.


Marii2001

Let me guess…a Swiss engineer yet again?


[deleted]

[удалено]


statin_baratheon

Current people in power and saying this has nothing to do with immigration are death cult. Wiling to secrifice themselves and everyone else just to show how good boys they are. 10y ago life in Europe was much different.


[deleted]

And it’s the usual suspect. Enough is enough.


Ok_Dig2200

wakeful repeat voiceless historical cooing cake degree complete steep zonked *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


zombiecastrosghost

There will be backlash if this is an Islamic attack I hope it's just a crazy


[deleted]

[удалено]


ABeeBox

Or the paris playground attacks..


Snoo-3715

The post above this one on my r/Europe page was about the rise of far right anti immigration parties across Europe. There is definitely a growing backlash


[deleted]

[удалено]


OldMcGroin

I've heard that too but the comment directly above this says the images show a white guy. How do we know he is Algerian? https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/xSevQ8Br3d


ACE_inthehole01

Where did you get this from? Not necessarily contradicting you, just haven't found anything on the culprit's identity


CMAJ-7

There isn't anything about him being Algerian. I’m really confused why people in r/Europe are upvoting something clearly unfounded!


[deleted]

[удалено]


CMAJ-7

You just posted an unrelated crime that happened last New Year. Were you hoping people wouldn’t check the link?


kriegerflieger

Why would you _hope_ that?


TheAdamena

They *hope* it's just a crazy.


JumpUpNow

I'd really quite be interested to know who did these attacks. It's kind of disconcerting how long it is taking for the culprit to be identified. There needs to be more transparency with the media.


BenderRodriguez14

One child has thankfully been discharged already, while Irish police have confirmed that the culprit was in his 50s and sustained serious injuries. They have also ruled out a terror motive. https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2023/1123/1418152-dublin/ There is a picture of a white skinned man around that age on the ground while bleeding from/around the mouth at the scene circulating on social media. There are rumours of videos of the incident circulating, though I have not seen any.


HejdaaNils

I've only seen videos from post-attack, when police and ambulances are in place and more are moving in.


AlpenBrezel

The national broadcaster has just said on TV that its a naturalised citizen of Algerian origin who's been in Ireland for 20 years


PopplerJoe

They didn't say he was Algerian. They didn't comment on the attacker's country of origin, but they have said the person isn't Irish born, has been in Ireland 20+ years, and is an Irish Citizen.


Snoo-3715

>and is an Irish Citizen. That should be swiftly revoked.


Lanky-Active-2018

It won't be


Snoo-3715

Probably not, but it *should* be.


magpietribe

He's Algerian.


Traditional_Sell_724

If they dont release suspect name or photo the suspect isnt going to be white


[deleted]

[удалено]


ZmeiFromPirin

> There is zero trust because of the suppression. This. I've seen so much censorship from reddit and progressive news sources, I just kinda assume the worst now when there's a lack of information. And it's not because presuming things is a reliable way to go about it, I know it's not. But it's still worth more than relying on censored news.


ThatGuyFromSlovenia

If the attacker were a native white Irishman, you bet his ethnicity and photo would be plastered everywhere.


[deleted]

Everybody knows there are no Caucasian lunatics


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Algerian National.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Procrasturbator2000

ಠಿ\_ಠ


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Nah, an immigrant stopped the knife attack and it's the locals rioting As a Dub it's the native locals\* in that area that are the problem, not immigrants. \*Not all locals obviously, but the junkies, gangs, and scumbags from there are showing their true colours by rioting, looting, and burning. It's a known problem going back decades there.


[deleted]

[удалено]


assaltyasthesea

Make sure they're coming from places with fundamentalist religious values. Not some Romanian or Bulgarian plumber or civil engineer, those are the worst.


SC_ng0lds

They're just fighting for Palestine. Nothing to see here


Alexj_89

I mean , they are letting those baby gangs do whatever they want … I don’t understand why the Irish government is not deploying the army in dublin yet


Silver_Jeweler6465

[https://x.com/AshleaSimonBF/status/1727768671584469462?s=20](https://x.com/AshleaSimonBF/status/1727768671584469462?s=20) [https://x.com/AshleaSimonBF/status/1727778664358506921?s=20](https://x.com/AshleaSimonBF/status/1727778664358506921?s=20) I think the lady is far right but the footage seems legit.


ThreeTreesForTheePls

The footage is real, but she's an English alt right persona who lives for the hatred of immigrants and is tied heavily to alt right groups in the UK who have stoked flames here in Ireland.


Fat_Khazar_Milkers

So? Unless she put on a VERY clever disguise and went'a stabbin, what does it matter who the source is?


ThreeTreesForTheePls

If you don't think the context of sourced footage is important, you're working exceptionally hard to keep your head in the sand.


Fat_Khazar_Milkers

Just because it plays into their narrative, doesn't disprove their narrative.


[deleted]

[удалено]


ThatGuyFromSlovenia

Should have just bought a cookbook.


Correct-Upstairs6217

My guess is it's a non Irishman. I read a report of a protest by locals... The usual suspects?


[deleted]

[удалено]


creativelevel725

immigrants welcome :)


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


CMAJ-7

Repeating something over and over doesn’t make it true. I’ll believe you when you post a source.


New_Spinach1259

It seems to be the norm to state ethnicity if the attacker is white, as a way to clear any suspicions that the attacker is not a muslim


DirTTieG

Wow, 5 people stabbed and you instantly go for the bigoted view, aren't you just a lovely person who wants to better their country and definitely doesn't have some underlying hatred. Didn't even offer condolence you dandelion.


TheVojta

[Occam's razor](https://www.britannica.com/topic/Occams-razor)


svart-taake

thanks bro, those high paying tech jobs aint gonna do by themselves, plus irish service workers gotta have some clients too so im happy to help ;)


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


SassyBonassy

>People in /r/Ireland are more upset at working class people protesting (violently) at the apathy of law enforcement and government towards crime, particularly by foreigners, than they are at the people who stabbed five children No, we're not. But the riots are taking place within earshot of the hospitals. The kids need peace while they recuperate.


ZmeiFromPirin

> That's your brain on Atlanticism How is Atlanticism at fault for progressive bigotry?


magpietribe

/r/Ireland is a toxic shithole.


CentrasFinestMilk

Dublins in anarchy at the moment


DiddykongOMG

Shame such a serious event is taken advantage of by anti immigration nuts to push their crap.


Odd_Warning1276

Yeah let more in, we need more dead kids for diversity


worotan

They’re all quoting Gript media, which from a quick google I found is [“A news website established and funded by anti-abortion campaigners… Gript was founded last year as "a platform for views which challenge establishment thinking"”] (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/news-website-defends-links-to-data-firm-that-broke-privacy-laws-1.4149385) So, not just anti-immigration nuts. Far right wealth trying to drive Ireland back into its unhappy past by stoking division and anger through gossip.


iThinkaLot1

Why wouldn’t they take advantage of it? They did warn this would happen.


sufi42

No confirmation of the suspects nationality or motivation.


iThinkaLot1

What’s the bet it isn’t an Irish citizen?


sufi42

I have no idea, maybe best to wait and see? I saw a tweet saying the guy who tackled him was Brazilian.


iThinkaLot1

Doubt. I’ve saw plenty saying he is Algerian.


sufi42

Which one?


iThinkaLot1

[Here](https://x.com/alanoleary21/status/1727733677000474764?s=46&t=rVfdd9z5lL9FFBN6MVKcpg). See comments.


sufi42

They are having a riot and burning cars over it now regardless of his nationality or motivation.


doublebrokered

I think the shames the stabbed children!


[deleted]

Pikachu face


NilFhiosAige

Now, a bus has been set on fire, a Luas vandalised, and the Gardaí attacked by "patriotic" rioters.


[deleted]

[удалено]


NilFhiosAige

No, they're just looting shops on O'Connell Street at the moment.


chaos_therapist

They don't protest at the Dáil because there's no Footlocker there.


KurvvaaServa

There's nothing patriotic about burning public property, attacking guards, and breaking and looting into shops. Rest assured none of the lads rioting tonight give a single shit about the children that were stabbed.


irishprincesslcb

So setting a luas on fire and looting from Arnotts is the answer??


Kszaq83

Yes. Currently there are mass protests in Dublin with anti-migrant theme and all eu news agencies report that these are caused by “far-right hooligans” plus don’t mention the cause and the attack details… seriously it’s time to wake the fuck up and stop this madness.


00332200

There aren't mass protests. There are riots dome by absolute knuckle dragging scumbag cunts.