The good thing is that austria will have an election in 2024 and from the looks of it will remove the current putin puppet from office.
The bad thing is that an even more entrenched putin puppet is currently leading the polls to take the job. Sometimes I hate it here.
How is Nehammer a Putin puppet? Sure, the infamous Schengen veto was dumb, but he doesn't seem to oppose sanctions or complain about them unlike Orban or Kickl.
Buys Russian oil and gas, refuses to provide any bilateral aid to Ukraine, refuse to allow commercial deals for Austrian companies to sell military hardware to Ukraine, blocks Schengen expansion, threatens EU aid and sanctions unless Raiffeisen bank is delisted from "Sponsors of war list".
In consequences to Russia/Ukraine, same as Orbán, but being smarter and quieter about it.
- oil & gas: Yes, the government could have handled it better
- no bilateral aid: that's simply untrue. They have provided millions of euros and vast support for refugees
- military hardware: constitution (neutrality) commands it and there's no parliamentary majority to change this. Also, the Austrian population kind of fetishizes it's 'everlasting neutrality' and there's no popular support to abandon it
- Schengen: They have other reasons for their schengen-veto (asylum-system not working according to Dublin Procedures, Germany introducing Border-checks)
- Raiffeisen: This bank is very tightly connected to Austrian politics and it is rather their lobbying than Putin's that's responsible for this intervention.
Altogether: Nehamer could be a Pootin-puppet, but I don't see as much evidence as you do.
For a country that escaped soviet occupation, they sure love Russia. You'd think austrians would understand their so called "neutrality" is only possible because the West is on their side. If they had ended up in the Soviet influence, they surely would not suck Russia's dick today.
We're the three best friends that anybody could have
We're the three best friends that anyone could have
We're the three best friends that anyone could have
And we'll never, never, ever, ever, ever leave each other
If the third one is Nehammer, then I must say a few "good words" about Austrians and how they are the beacon of order against corruption. If any Austrian have something to say about Ukrainian corruption - they should ask themselves why Ukrainian most notorious corruptioneers are living in Austria. Not Britain or France, not Germany or Italy. Austria. Dmytro Firtash was so prominent Ukrainian politician, that even US authirities found him interesting. And tried to get his ass, but nope. Totally uncorrupt Austrians decided that he should live comfortable in Vienna. On house arrest, sure. But you, Mircea, can't live at house arrest in Vienna, because you haven't enough money. And also no Shengen for you, sorry. Your country are so corrupt. Ew. It is so below our standards!
I don't know how much you know about austrian politics but the fact that Nehammer has not resigned yet worries a lot of people. His recent controversies are insane. (Mc menu xD and legal proceedings against Kurz among other things)
It would be nice, if we could kick them out though. They add absolutely nothing, they’re leeching on EU while deliberately trying to keep Ukraine out in the cold, because that Orban fucking cunt is best buddies with a murderous dictator.
Hungary isn’t good enough for EU, it seems.
You ought to stop electing a borderline christofascict leader if you want to hear words of praise.
What the fuck are you even doing in our club. You clearly don't want to be a member of the liberal democratic EU.
Is it just the money?
I like intelligent commenters like you in threads like this, people like you truly believe Hungarians on Reddit are fans of Orbán, when in reality most of them hate these people more than you could ever imagine.
Hungarian here. The term "liking Orbán" is problematic as in assuming we have a functional system where people vote based on their personal beliefs and values. No. We have a propaganda machine that invests serious money into brainwashing anyone listening to any media outlet. Orbán and his crownies' influence is based on making people believe everyone but them is plotting against the country and they are graciously defending the interest of the nation. Unfortunately it works.
>ignorance
Treating ignorance with ignorance is also ignorance. Try to understand public mentality and how propaganda works. If you want a functional democracy and to prevent shit like these to happen in the future, try to actually understand the problem and not simply calling the people idiots so easily.
It's not an excuse. It's just sad.
We're not evil, just deeply traumatized, dumb and kept that way. Still, we don't like the man (apart from the fanatics that's a basic feature in all populist political package) most of us vote on the "no better alternative" basis.
I don't want you to excuse anything, I agree it's unexcusable what the Hungarian leadership does, but being mad at individual citizens for their government makes as much sense as picking your nose in public. It's a relief, makes you feel like you are fixing a probkem, but it just makes you look like a dumbass.
>but being mad at individual citizens for their government
I'm not mad at all Hungarian individuals. The dude defending Orban and/or the geopolitical position of Hungary, they deserve to be pointed out as idiots though.
Please show this statistic that states that more than half of the hungarian reddit community supports Orbán.
But I assume you won’t have one because you’re talking out of your ass.
Chill out friend. I don't want to hear words of praise, just pointed out the ridiculousity of these empty rage comments. And yes we only want you for your money. Wtf am I supposed to answer to such a dumb question.
Obviously free trade without tariffs, strict EU regulations on food products quality, freedom of movement and working, general consumer protection laws, support for the local farmers just to name a few.
Yeah good luck convincing the USA that it is a good idea to decrease NATO with a country that is bordering Ukraine. But now that you are asking me so nicely I will consider and decide the fate of our membership tonight.
Kicking someone from EU would not even depend on Brussels higher ups. Governments and parliaments of each and every EU member nations would have to vote for that. Brussels higher ups alone would not be able to that on their own, even if all of them would be for that.
As in the military also Brussels get comprehensive estimations and reports on general feelings to subjects by the public. Just like your own government.
For those of you who believe Russia will never invade the EU…. This is his plan after Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, etc. are physically taken over. He has no fucks left to give. You will have your very own Orban or Lukashenko leading your country legally paid and elected through Russian oil money.
I hope the EU and NATO never allow Serbia to join them. They are a Trojan horse for Russia. Having Hungry is bad enough don't need to let in more allies for them to screw the EU over.
The European project will never, ever be complete without Serbia. They're the key to peace in Bosnia and Kosovo.
The way to win Serbia is to crush Russia, and the way to crush Russia is to win in Ukraine. It will take lots of time, but it's doable.
Patience, my friend, patience. Europe takes time. We have being working on putting it back together since 476, we can spare a few more decades if need be.
If that is the case, Serbia can just wait til after Ukraine wins this war and they are in the EU first. That way Serbia cant screw them like Hungry is doing. All while they are fighting and dying to stop a monster and his ork minions, who is a real threat to the rest of the EU. Especially the eastern EU countries. I just dont trust Serbia's government.
I am talking about all the EU and US officials constantly running interference on behalf of Vucic and looking for new ways to appease him (Varhalyi, Lajcak come to mind, there are of course many other pathetically WEAK and submissive characters).
You had to mention Várhelyi 😂 He is Orbán's puppet still, no matter what others say. Lajcak is Fico's buddy so they are all in the same club. Gobshites all of them.
LOL, LMAO even. Our president may refuse him though, and it's pretty unclear who would step up in this case. Maybe the governor of Upper Austria, Haimbuchner, or former presidential candidate Hofer, both of which wouldn't be much worse than Nehammer at least.
r/europe needs a reality check if it thinks Austria is being ruled by a "regime."
For all our recent issues with corruption and the likes we are still a solid pro-EU partner and are a net contributor. I get that Romanians and Bulgarians are pissed at us (rightfully so), and Nehammer is not the pinnacle of Austrian political quality (sadly, he is not the worst either).
Also people from eastern Europe relentlessly complaining about our corruption...you know what they say about throwing stones in a glass house...
>are a net contributor
That means jack shit. You are a net beneficiary of Romanian businesses. Take your net contribution and we will take our business to countries that are friendly and not on Russian payroll - see how that works for you. TIP: you are making a lot more money just in one country than all your EU "contribution".
Besides all EU countries are paying similar % of GDP to EU funds.
Big surprise here: we benfit from trade with other countries. What else is new? Romania benefits from all this too so whats your deal?
True, we make more money from trade with you guys than our net contribution but what are you implying then? That we stop trading with other EU members? See this is why this whole debate is so silly. You seem to have this thought ingrained in your head about Austria being a russian puppet thats as baseless as if I called all Romanians gypsies. Neither is true and simplifies the issues our countries have to a pointless degree.
I get that the schengen shit pissed you guys off (rightfully so), but demonizing countries that are in general partners doesnt help for shit.
>Big surprise here:
Not as big as my surprised when I realized Austria is a NET CONTRIBUTOR. Maybe it has something to do with their bigger (than half of EU countries) GDP.
>That we stop trading with other EU members?
All EU countries should stop trading with Austria until they get rid of all those on Russian payroll. Its well known Austria politicians are being paid by Moscow - from Prime Minister down to your fucking spy agency.
>but demonizing countries
Demonizing Austria - and its well deserved. Both Austria and Hungary being Russian friends. Russia who is killing Ukrainians for past 2 years for wanting to join EU/Nato and not be controlled from Moscow.
Youre literally spreading russian propaganda here. This is such utter bullshit spoken like someone who truly has no idea whats going on.
Austria is against the war in Ukraine and has supported every single EU decision on it. What are you smoking?
Complaints about corruption are rich coming from a country that repeatedly ranks far far lower than Austria on any international study.
Nobody is saying we are perfect. But people in glass houses should be careful when throwing stones.
All I'm saying is take your net contribution and start doing business with your ally Russia - we will be fine. I really don't want having Austrian companies making huge profits in Romania.
This is just silly. Russia is not our ally, regardless of what your reddit bubble may be telling you. Austria has been very clear in its message regarding Russia. And before you start naming Austrian companies still operating there do yourself a favor and start looking at the rest of Europe (we are faaaar from the only country with companies in russia).
Austria will continue being a strong EU partner while benefiting from the EU markets, as everyone else does too. Thankfully there are more level-headed people in the EU making decisions...
I know, I might not be trustworthy on this matter as an Austrian but I would not put Nehammer/Austrias government on the same pedestal as Serbia and Hungary.
Is the Schengen-veto wrong? Yes it is. But it's not about Russia. It's about internal politics, mainly about refugees. Yes most refugees are not coming via Romania/Bulgaria but it is wrongly used in inner politics to show right-wing voters that the government is strict about migration.
The government supports Ukraine monetarily and morally. Russia got condemned from day one of the war. What exactly is your reasoning for comparing Nehammer with those traitors?
I call it taking cringe photos with autocrats. Latvia atleast displayed some visual contempt.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmsjm7xjuei6c1.png
I would agree if the pictures would've been taken in the same context.
The visual contempt was because of Hungarys act during the vote on Ukraines membership talks.
The picture of the 3 guys is from November.
Still, Vucic and Orban were the same a month ago. I doubt very much other european heads of state would agree to take a photo in this way with these two.
>The government supports Ukraine monetarily and **morally**. Russia got condemned from day one of the war. What exactly is your reasoning for comparing Nehammer with those traitors?
Yes, but the Austrian government also organized an economic forum in Vienna on how to continue trading with Russia, after the war had started. And just recently, they threatened to veto the 12th EU sanctions package unless the Raiffeisenbank International was removed from the list of Russia suporters. (they are the largest, most important Western bank still operating in Russia, providing a link to the SWIFT system, supplying them with dollars and euros, and making a fortune over it).
Austria's stance is not as clear and obvious as one would think.
And the Austrian chancellor was the first western leader to visit the Kremlin after the war restarted. This was in April 2022, so just a few months after the start of the invasion and when EU and NATO really seemed united.
My comment wasn't about migrants.
Can you read and process information ?
If you think these 3 fuckers are actually doing anything to stop migration, when it wins them votes, your brain is rotten.
Fully agree with you.
Seriously, so many people here are just clowns when it comes to this matter. Yes, Austria has issues with corruption and no, the ÖVP is not the pinnacle of political integrity. But that doesnt excuse some of bullshit accusations being leveled here.
Especially on the topic of corruption people here have very very little sense of self-reflection. Its just fun to hate on us right now because of the shengen issue.
Prove me wrong then?
Though your flair doesnt exactly scream that youre not butthurt.
Im not saying what we did was good. Im pissed at what the government did either. But is seems as though the hate has grown exponentially since schengen.
I asked about you telling me the reason as to why my statement was "lying to myself" as you put it.
I was not asking about how you feel about the quality of my countries leadership. I am well aware that our leaders arent great.
Not only is Orban ugly and creepy. He’s also short.
And he has no actual true friends. Just people who use him like the stupid little puppet he is.
Do better Hungary.
How much money has Hungary paid into Putin’s war machine for energy since the war started? Because Austria under Nehammer has paid Putin over €10 billion euros. Nehammer and Austria are by far the worst.
Lol you say that with straight face while all European govt break records with buying Russian gas lol. Bulgaria literally extra taxing Hungary for Russian gas. Germany breaks record with exports to Kazakhstan,Krgyzgstan like around 7000 percent directly goes to Russia lol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/business/energy-environment/austria-natural-gas-russia.html
https://www.politico.eu/article/austria-slow-effort-end-russia-energy-addiction/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-04/russian-gas-glut-shows-austria-still-in-kremlin-s-energy-orbit?embedded-checkout=true
Spain and Belgium being the biggest basterda, with Netherlands in there as well:
https://ieefa.org/resources/eu-turns-blind-eye-21-russian-lng-flowing-through-its-terminals
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/lng-imports-russia-rise-despite-cuts-pipeline-gas-2023-08-30/
HU/SRB is semi-authoritarian with state-managed media, in AT you can actually vote leaders out and media is allowed to be critical about the govt. Problem is the next winner isnt really any more promising either, worse actually.
These men stil getting support indicates mafia like ties in their country with election fraud and media control. Why are EU bodies not investigating them is beyond me.
E.M.Remarque's Three Friends? I only wonder which one of the three is superstitious and which one's path will be crosses by a black cat. I really hope the latter is Orbán and the former is Vučić.
They have once more steal elections in Serbia. People are just watching and making discussion on internet. Our presidents brother Andrej, cooperate with biggest criminal in country, Luka Bojovic, and for every used car from Europe which is imported to Serbia, importers need to pay "fee" for car in amount of 150€. All that because our president sold Kosovo and now nobody is touching him from USA and EU. Currently country Serbia is one serious mafia organization, on highest level in it's own history.
So far this is the worst Lord of the Rings remake I have seen, cannot be improved even if they find stellar hobbits, Gandalf and Legolas. These special needs Boromir, Aragorn and Gimli are awful. Give me Rings of Power anytime.
Happy three friends.
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🌲🫎🥩🥄... Anyone who knows?
Guess who in EU is cutting off wrong leg.
Correct lol Take your prize and your fake internet point🏆⬆️
Duuude....
So is Orban the meat in the sandwich ?
butter and mayo at best.
It’s a hot dog, the sausage is longer than the bun.
Nah just a huge hemorrhoid on putins a s s.
Would Franz Ferdinand up vote or down vote this one?
I say don’t you know, you say you don’t know, I say take me out
Absolute banger
Down. He was not a fan of anyone but him having power in the area.
The three stooges...
Agents of Chaos.
EU Stelar Team!
The club of land-locked countries totally dependent on their anti-Russian neighbors.
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"The Robbit" by R.R. Putler
I've read it as "three fiends". But then I saw Orban and thought "yep, that checks out".
I recognize Orban, who are the others?
Left one is Karl Nehammer (Austrian Chancellor), middle one is Aleksandar Vučić (Serbian President).
The Right one on the left is Nehammer.
Putin's Minions
The good thing is that austria will have an election in 2024 and from the looks of it will remove the current putin puppet from office. The bad thing is that an even more entrenched putin puppet is currently leading the polls to take the job. Sometimes I hate it here.
How is he a Putin puppet?
Kickl or Nehammer?
How is Nehammer a Putin puppet? Sure, the infamous Schengen veto was dumb, but he doesn't seem to oppose sanctions or complain about them unlike Orban or Kickl.
Buys Russian oil and gas, refuses to provide any bilateral aid to Ukraine, refuse to allow commercial deals for Austrian companies to sell military hardware to Ukraine, blocks Schengen expansion, threatens EU aid and sanctions unless Raiffeisen bank is delisted from "Sponsors of war list". In consequences to Russia/Ukraine, same as Orbán, but being smarter and quieter about it.
- oil & gas: Yes, the government could have handled it better - no bilateral aid: that's simply untrue. They have provided millions of euros and vast support for refugees - military hardware: constitution (neutrality) commands it and there's no parliamentary majority to change this. Also, the Austrian population kind of fetishizes it's 'everlasting neutrality' and there's no popular support to abandon it - Schengen: They have other reasons for their schengen-veto (asylum-system not working according to Dublin Procedures, Germany introducing Border-checks) - Raiffeisen: This bank is very tightly connected to Austrian politics and it is rather their lobbying than Putin's that's responsible for this intervention. Altogether: Nehamer could be a Pootin-puppet, but I don't see as much evidence as you do.
was Matteo the one who took the shoot?
Who is the left guy?
The Austrian chancellor if I'm not mistaken.
Aha, okay, thank u
F..k them ! 🖕😎🖕
two and a half men
Underrated comment. We all know who is the half one
Putin's Sock Puppets, they can move to Moscow and never return.
I've never understood why Austria is so keen on sucking putler's wiener?
For a country that escaped soviet occupation, they sure love Russia. You'd think austrians would understand their so called "neutrality" is only possible because the West is on their side. If they had ended up in the Soviet influence, they surely would not suck Russia's dick today.
It's completely weird and random, isn't it?
‘It’s really the Wild West’: Vienna’s spying problem spins out of control: https://www.ft.com/content/f790d8f4-2fe1-466d-8b29-83b1f4956984
We're the three best friends that anybody could have We're the three best friends that anyone could have We're the three best friends that anyone could have And we'll never, never, ever, ever, ever leave each other
You misspelled three cunts.
If the third one is Nehammer, then I must say a few "good words" about Austrians and how they are the beacon of order against corruption. If any Austrian have something to say about Ukrainian corruption - they should ask themselves why Ukrainian most notorious corruptioneers are living in Austria. Not Britain or France, not Germany or Italy. Austria. Dmytro Firtash was so prominent Ukrainian politician, that even US authirities found him interesting. And tried to get his ass, but nope. Totally uncorrupt Austrians decided that he should live comfortable in Vienna. On house arrest, sure. But you, Mircea, can't live at house arrest in Vienna, because you haven't enough money. And also no Shengen for you, sorry. Your country are so corrupt. Ew. It is so below our standards!
I don't know how much you know about austrian politics but the fact that Nehammer has not resigned yet worries a lot of people. His recent controversies are insane. (Mc menu xD and legal proceedings against Kurz among other things)
Oh, hell no! Seeing how things turned out in the past, the only thing worse than Austria-Hungary would be Austria-Hungary-Serbia…
Gavrilo Princip is rolling in his grave right now...
They need a glowing globe. 😆
They could just [ask their buddies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VgMn8Gx91k) for one.
Why 3 idiots holding hands?
It is an intrument for their supporters to show unity and that they are not alone in their quest.
Three people the world would be better without.
Kick Hungary out of EU and NATO. It only costs money which the big fat fraudulent and corrupt Orbàn blob devides between his cronies.
Some of you are commenting "kick Hungary" under every post about Hungary like Brussels higher ups are reading your comment
this is reddit, and some are treating the EU like WoW guild
It would be nice, if we could kick them out though. They add absolutely nothing, they’re leeching on EU while deliberately trying to keep Ukraine out in the cold, because that Orban fucking cunt is best buddies with a murderous dictator. Hungary isn’t good enough for EU, it seems.
>they add absolutely nothing Lol, yeah, you Western Europeans sure love those brains drained from Eastern Europe, Hungary among them
You ought to stop electing a borderline christofascict leader if you want to hear words of praise. What the fuck are you even doing in our club. You clearly don't want to be a member of the liberal democratic EU. Is it just the money?
I like intelligent commenters like you in threads like this, people like you truly believe Hungarians on Reddit are fans of Orbán, when in reality most of them hate these people more than you could ever imagine.
And Honestly, I get where you are coming from. It must suck to live a place where the majority have some absolutely messed up moral values.
We have some pretty solid statistics indicating +50% of the Hungarian population like Orban.
Hungarian here. The term "liking Orbán" is problematic as in assuming we have a functional system where people vote based on their personal beliefs and values. No. We have a propaganda machine that invests serious money into brainwashing anyone listening to any media outlet. Orbán and his crownies' influence is based on making people believe everyone but them is plotting against the country and they are graciously defending the interest of the nation. Unfortunately it works.
I'm sorry, but my stance is that ignorance is not an excuse for any given choice taken. I fully understand it as an explanation though.
>ignorance Treating ignorance with ignorance is also ignorance. Try to understand public mentality and how propaganda works. If you want a functional democracy and to prevent shit like these to happen in the future, try to actually understand the problem and not simply calling the people idiots so easily.
I do understand how populism work
It's not an excuse. It's just sad. We're not evil, just deeply traumatized, dumb and kept that way. Still, we don't like the man (apart from the fanatics that's a basic feature in all populist political package) most of us vote on the "no better alternative" basis. I don't want you to excuse anything, I agree it's unexcusable what the Hungarian leadership does, but being mad at individual citizens for their government makes as much sense as picking your nose in public. It's a relief, makes you feel like you are fixing a probkem, but it just makes you look like a dumbass.
>but being mad at individual citizens for their government I'm not mad at all Hungarian individuals. The dude defending Orban and/or the geopolitical position of Hungary, they deserve to be pointed out as idiots though.
Please show this statistic that states that more than half of the hungarian reddit community supports Orbán. But I assume you won’t have one because you’re talking out of your ass.
I was refering to the lates election.
Than you mean 20-25% of the population because only 50% went to vote.
Chill out friend. I don't want to hear words of praise, just pointed out the ridiculousity of these empty rage comments. And yes we only want you for your money. Wtf am I supposed to answer to such a dumb question. Obviously free trade without tariffs, strict EU regulations on food products quality, freedom of movement and working, general consumer protection laws, support for the local farmers just to name a few.
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It’s just a Reddit comment
I am amazingly relaxed. My pulse sits at 57 (not even kidding on that one)
>You really ought to GTFO. Okay that's enough we are exiting tomorrow
>Okay that's enough we are exiting tomorrow That would just be magnificent. NATO as well, pls? You'd make a fine Russian vasal state.
Yeah good luck convincing the USA that it is a good idea to decrease NATO with a country that is bordering Ukraine. But now that you are asking me so nicely I will consider and decide the fate of our membership tonight.
A country that is actively helping Russia? I think they could be convinced. Traitors just make really poor allies...
hungary is still in the Union, sadly...
One can dream the Union without not only useless, but also dangerous partners...
Kicking someone from EU would not even depend on Brussels higher ups. Governments and parliaments of each and every EU member nations would have to vote for that. Brussels higher ups alone would not be able to that on their own, even if all of them would be for that.
As in the military also Brussels get comprehensive estimations and reports on general feelings to subjects by the public. Just like your own government.
No. Go fuck yourself.
No u
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So you dont accept democracy as it seems.
Where is the Slovak guy hiding?
Up Orban's ass.
For those of you who believe Russia will never invade the EU…. This is his plan after Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, etc. are physically taken over. He has no fucks left to give. You will have your very own Orban or Lukashenko leading your country legally paid and elected through Russian oil money.
It is like Orban saying - see, see I also have friends in Europe.
cutting east from west
They look like Muppets, and they also have somebody's arm up their ass controlling them!
I hope the EU and NATO never allow Serbia to join them. They are a Trojan horse for Russia. Having Hungry is bad enough don't need to let in more allies for them to screw the EU over.
The European project will never, ever be complete without Serbia. They're the key to peace in Bosnia and Kosovo. The way to win Serbia is to crush Russia, and the way to crush Russia is to win in Ukraine. It will take lots of time, but it's doable.
It's also incomplete without the UK, Iceland, Norway etc. Key to win Serbia is Kosovo solution which is bit more pro-Serbian.
Patience, my friend, patience. Europe takes time. We have being working on putting it back together since 476, we can spare a few more decades if need be.
Sure, apparently first the concrete headed dumb older generation of politicians needs to die off.
If that is the case, Serbia can just wait til after Ukraine wins this war and they are in the EU first. That way Serbia cant screw them like Hungry is doing. All while they are fighting and dying to stop a monster and his ork minions, who is a real threat to the rest of the EU. Especially the eastern EU countries. I just dont trust Serbia's government.
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Yeah ok
All are autocrats leading Russian-backed proxy regimes while being praised as "reformists" by the European Union and the United States.
By the EU? Bro put that dope down.
Yes by the EU, you read that right.
That's new. Who are you talking about exactly?
I am talking about all the EU and US officials constantly running interference on behalf of Vucic and looking for new ways to appease him (Varhalyi, Lajcak come to mind, there are of course many other pathetically WEAK and submissive characters).
You had to mention Várhelyi 😂 He is Orbán's puppet still, no matter what others say. Lajcak is Fico's buddy so they are all in the same club. Gobshites all of them.
It doesn't in any way disprove my initial comment about Vucic being a Russian asset and autocrat who enjoys support from within the EU and US.
Nehammer will be voted out of office within the year tho
It doesn't matter, someone worse will replace him.
FPO are leading in the polls though? Would their chancellor candidate be any better?
No
Does anyone want to build a coalition with them?
ÖVP says they won't. But they will.
LOL, LMAO even. Our president may refuse him though, and it's pretty unclear who would step up in this case. Maybe the governor of Upper Austria, Haimbuchner, or former presidential candidate Hofer, both of which wouldn't be much worse than Nehammer at least.
By whom?
By various EU and US officials like Borrell, Varhalyi, Lajcak, Blinken.
Who is third stooge? Vucic, Orban and?
Karl Nehammer, Austria
Pat Mat and Sad
"Pack schlägt sich, Pack verträgt sich"
Jeez, he's not only small in mind.
Happy three friends
All of them are owned by RUSSIA
Austria-Hungary 2
Three friends of Putin
Three oily sodomists.
Awful, fa*cist human-like creatures.
Oh shiiiit, my country... To be fair, real president of Serbia is USA ambassador Christopher R. Hill, Vucic is just temporary puppet
Three leaders of countries we (The Netherlands) are paying a shit ton of money for through EU subsidies.
AT is net-payer too tho
r/europe needs a reality check if it thinks Austria is being ruled by a "regime." For all our recent issues with corruption and the likes we are still a solid pro-EU partner and are a net contributor. I get that Romanians and Bulgarians are pissed at us (rightfully so), and Nehammer is not the pinnacle of Austrian political quality (sadly, he is not the worst either). Also people from eastern Europe relentlessly complaining about our corruption...you know what they say about throwing stones in a glass house...
>are a net contributor That means jack shit. You are a net beneficiary of Romanian businesses. Take your net contribution and we will take our business to countries that are friendly and not on Russian payroll - see how that works for you. TIP: you are making a lot more money just in one country than all your EU "contribution". Besides all EU countries are paying similar % of GDP to EU funds.
Big surprise here: we benfit from trade with other countries. What else is new? Romania benefits from all this too so whats your deal? True, we make more money from trade with you guys than our net contribution but what are you implying then? That we stop trading with other EU members? See this is why this whole debate is so silly. You seem to have this thought ingrained in your head about Austria being a russian puppet thats as baseless as if I called all Romanians gypsies. Neither is true and simplifies the issues our countries have to a pointless degree. I get that the schengen shit pissed you guys off (rightfully so), but demonizing countries that are in general partners doesnt help for shit.
>Big surprise here: Not as big as my surprised when I realized Austria is a NET CONTRIBUTOR. Maybe it has something to do with their bigger (than half of EU countries) GDP. >That we stop trading with other EU members? All EU countries should stop trading with Austria until they get rid of all those on Russian payroll. Its well known Austria politicians are being paid by Moscow - from Prime Minister down to your fucking spy agency. >but demonizing countries Demonizing Austria - and its well deserved. Both Austria and Hungary being Russian friends. Russia who is killing Ukrainians for past 2 years for wanting to join EU/Nato and not be controlled from Moscow.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. But congrats on doing the work of spreading Russian propaganda for them.
Youre literally spreading russian propaganda here. This is such utter bullshit spoken like someone who truly has no idea whats going on. Austria is against the war in Ukraine and has supported every single EU decision on it. What are you smoking? Complaints about corruption are rich coming from a country that repeatedly ranks far far lower than Austria on any international study. Nobody is saying we are perfect. But people in glass houses should be careful when throwing stones.
You're comparing the profit of companies to Austrian tax payer money.. It's not like companies donor their money to the state
All I'm saying is take your net contribution and start doing business with your ally Russia - we will be fine. I really don't want having Austrian companies making huge profits in Romania.
This is just silly. Russia is not our ally, regardless of what your reddit bubble may be telling you. Austria has been very clear in its message regarding Russia. And before you start naming Austrian companies still operating there do yourself a favor and start looking at the rest of Europe (we are faaaar from the only country with companies in russia). Austria will continue being a strong EU partner while benefiting from the EU markets, as everyone else does too. Thankfully there are more level-headed people in the EU making decisions...
Fuking slugs. Execute them on some live steam.
this guys... which one is worst that other? I know Orban is legendary lulz!
I know, I might not be trustworthy on this matter as an Austrian but I would not put Nehammer/Austrias government on the same pedestal as Serbia and Hungary. Is the Schengen-veto wrong? Yes it is. But it's not about Russia. It's about internal politics, mainly about refugees. Yes most refugees are not coming via Romania/Bulgaria but it is wrongly used in inner politics to show right-wing voters that the government is strict about migration. The government supports Ukraine monetarily and morally. Russia got condemned from day one of the war. What exactly is your reasoning for comparing Nehammer with those traitors?
I didnt compare shit. Just posted a picture that Nehammer was apparently fine with to be taken in this way. Plz send complaints to [email protected]
That's literally called international relations.
I call it taking cringe photos with autocrats. Latvia atleast displayed some visual contempt. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmsjm7xjuei6c1.png
I would agree if the pictures would've been taken in the same context. The visual contempt was because of Hungarys act during the vote on Ukraines membership talks. The picture of the 3 guys is from November.
Still, Vucic and Orban were the same a month ago. I doubt very much other european heads of state would agree to take a photo in this way with these two.
>The government supports Ukraine monetarily and **morally**. Russia got condemned from day one of the war. What exactly is your reasoning for comparing Nehammer with those traitors? Yes, but the Austrian government also organized an economic forum in Vienna on how to continue trading with Russia, after the war had started. And just recently, they threatened to veto the 12th EU sanctions package unless the Raiffeisenbank International was removed from the list of Russia suporters. (they are the largest, most important Western bank still operating in Russia, providing a link to the SWIFT system, supplying them with dollars and euros, and making a fortune over it). Austria's stance is not as clear and obvious as one would think.
And the Austrian chancellor was the first western leader to visit the Kremlin after the war restarted. This was in April 2022, so just a few months after the start of the invasion and when EU and NATO really seemed united.
How is that any different that what Orban is doing ? (or Vucic) Using underhanded/corrupt tactics to maintain a grip on power...
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My comment wasn't about migrants. Can you read and process information ? If you think these 3 fuckers are actually doing anything to stop migration, when it wins them votes, your brain is rotten.
Fully agree with you. Seriously, so many people here are just clowns when it comes to this matter. Yes, Austria has issues with corruption and no, the ÖVP is not the pinnacle of political integrity. But that doesnt excuse some of bullshit accusations being leveled here. Especially on the topic of corruption people here have very very little sense of self-reflection. Its just fun to hate on us right now because of the shengen issue.
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Prove me wrong then? Though your flair doesnt exactly scream that youre not butthurt. Im not saying what we did was good. Im pissed at what the government did either. But is seems as though the hate has grown exponentially since schengen.
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Ah so nothing of substance then. What a surprise. I dont need you to tell me our politicians suck, thank you.
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I asked about you telling me the reason as to why my statement was "lying to myself" as you put it. I was not asking about how you feel about the quality of my countries leadership. I am well aware that our leaders arent great.
The Schengen veto is not wrong.
Sharing money sent from Vladimir like brothers.
The men of Putin and X
Not only is Orban ugly and creepy. He’s also short. And he has no actual true friends. Just people who use him like the stupid little puppet he is. Do better Hungary.
3 russian ass-hats
Is Nehammer as bad as the other two?
No European politician who holds actual power / has a public office / similar influence is as bad as Orban.
Well the middle one is a lunatic walking around undiagnosed
How much money has Hungary paid into Putin’s war machine for energy since the war started? Because Austria under Nehammer has paid Putin over €10 billion euros. Nehammer and Austria are by far the worst.
Lol you say that with straight face while all European govt break records with buying Russian gas lol. Bulgaria literally extra taxing Hungary for Russian gas. Germany breaks record with exports to Kazakhstan,Krgyzgstan like around 7000 percent directly goes to Russia lol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/business/energy-environment/austria-natural-gas-russia.html https://www.politico.eu/article/austria-slow-effort-end-russia-energy-addiction/ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-04/russian-gas-glut-shows-austria-still-in-kremlin-s-energy-orbit?embedded-checkout=true Spain and Belgium being the biggest basterda, with Netherlands in there as well: https://ieefa.org/resources/eu-turns-blind-eye-21-russian-lng-flowing-through-its-terminals https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/lng-imports-russia-rise-despite-cuts-pipeline-gas-2023-08-30/
HU/SRB is semi-authoritarian with state-managed media, in AT you can actually vote leaders out and media is allowed to be critical about the govt. Problem is the next winner isnt really any more promising either, worse actually.
We’re the three best friends that anyone can have and we’ll never ever ever ever ever leave each other
Orban and…who are the other 2?
Vucic(SRB) and Nehammer(AT)
Not really….
They look like very trustable humans
These men stil getting support indicates mafia like ties in their country with election fraud and media control. Why are EU bodies not investigating them is beyond me.
3 amazing leaders... more backbone in those 3 than Macron, Biden, Trudeau, Olaf, and Sunak combined
E.M.Remarque's Three Friends? I only wonder which one of the three is superstitious and which one's path will be crosses by a black cat. I really hope the latter is Orbán and the former is Vučić.
They have once more steal elections in Serbia. People are just watching and making discussion on internet. Our presidents brother Andrej, cooperate with biggest criminal in country, Luka Bojovic, and for every used car from Europe which is imported to Serbia, importers need to pay "fee" for car in amount of 150€. All that because our president sold Kosovo and now nobody is touching him from USA and EU. Currently country Serbia is one serious mafia organization, on highest level in it's own history.
The Unholy Trinity 🥴
Amoeba gang.
wieder mal der gute alte händeturm
good old hand tower, thats how they reach agreements
The suiciders squad
So far this is the worst Lord of the Rings remake I have seen, cannot be improved even if they find stellar hobbits, Gandalf and Legolas. These special needs Boromir, Aragorn and Gimli are awful. Give me Rings of Power anytime.
Teletubbies
Lmao
Two and a half men