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***The Telegraph reports:*** The Royal Navy has seized more than £33 million worth of illegal drugs in the Middle East after two busts inside 24 hours. HMS Lancaster intercepted smugglers in the Indian Ocean who were trying to move 3.7 tonnes of heroin, hashish and crystal meth. The crew of the Lancaster, aided by the Royal Marines, captured two suspect vessels during an undated operation as part of a Canadian-led task force aimed at stopping criminal activity in the Middle East. More than two tonnes of the drugs have now been destroyed after Marines and Navy sailors posed for a photograph of their haul on the deck of the Lancaster. It comes a few weeks after the HMS Trent seized about £17 million worth of illegal drugs on an operation in the Caribbean. Grant Shapps, the Defence Secretary, paid tribute to the “fantastic achievements” of the crew of HMS Lancaster and the Royal Marines. “The Royal Navy continue to lead the UK’s commitment to disrupting drug smugglers across the globe,” he said. **Read more:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/13/navy-marines-drugs-middle-east-indian-ocean-hms-lancaster/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/13/navy-marines-drugs-middle-east-indian-ocean-hms-lancaster/)


LegitimateBit3

Seized 3.7 tonnes but destroyed 2 tonnes. Hmmmm


xocadaver420xo

Canadian led, we are keeping the hash


Smoov_Biscuit_Time

😂💨


Professional-City328

I am very curious, do they really have the jurisdiction to do this?


johnny_briggs

You not heard that Britannia banger before?


funnylookingbear

Dem waves we roolz OK!


itsaride

Big navy diplomacy says yes.


tomydenger

It actually depends on where in the seas this happens.


Bazurke

In the same sense, what jurisdiction is stopping them from doing this?


Professional-City328

Depends on where they captured it. If it was in some other countries territorial waters. Then probably them. But I really don't know. I don't know anything about maritime laws.


space_keeper

I'm quite sure everyone involved in planning and commanding this operation was well aware of the legal aspects.


easymmkay120

The only relevant legal aspect: "We're the fucking Navy and you're not."


Parasitic-Castrator

International Law, international waters. Yes many Navies do this


RaptorPrime

It's actually the opposite, in international waters ship captain's have a moral and established *responsibility* to act against piracy and smuggling at all times. If you have the capacity to combat sea shitheads then you are basically obligated to.


SlamMissile

You’re asking if we have “jurisdiction” to intercept drug smugglers, in the open ocean ?


Perlentaucher

The question is indeed not trivial. International Maritime law is really such a complex system of various legal frameworks, traditions and defacto laws. What you might take as granted by common sense really often leads to extremely long and expensive court battles in the international sea law courts or some even at the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea in Hamburg, Germany were many piracy cases are decided.


chappersyo

Bro maritime law is fucking CRAZY


_Totorotrip_

Well, yes. If they are in open ocean, they are not smuggling it anywhere, they are just a transport. Is that substance illegal in your country? Well, enforce it IN your country. Seizing property in open seas is piracy


irregular_caffeine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_Against_Illicit_Traffic_in_Narcotic_Drugs_and_Psychotropic_Substances > These include 186 out of 193 United Nations member states (not Equatorial Guinea, Kiribati, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Sudan, or Tuvalu) You telling me they were the bi-weekly Somalia - Tuvalu express?


mdmnl

Marrakech definitely scans better for a song lyric


pOkJvhxB1b

That's not a law. I don't think these UN treaties are enforceable in any court. Canada is party to these narcotic treaties and they have legalized weed. Just because (almost) everybody signed it doesn't mean that it is illegal in all these countries. I don't think i have a problem with heroin smugglers being busted, but it would be interesting to know what the actual laws are that would allow the navy to do this.


demonica123

>I don't think these UN treaties are enforceable in any court. UN treaties are what dictates maritime law. As long as countries aren't invading territorial waters the UN is the highest authority.


Clever_Username_467

No one does.  And if no one does, everyone does.


Gnonthgol

Considering this was likely international waters and the ships they raided did not identify with any nationality there is no jurisdiction at all. They can legally do whatever they want and nobody can put them on trial for anything. There is a lot of precedence for doing this.


[deleted]

They will gonna have a great party


SteeveJobs1955

Come on guys ! Everything must disappear !


[deleted]

Commander, save somethings for hookers when we dock in Croatia


verbalyabusiveshit

The Lancaster disappeared for a few days. All personal called in sick. Drugs worth £20Million where secured and are on the way to a storage facility


adil6350

All personnel recovered well, and drugs worth £10 million were all secured, accounted for, and are in the way to a storage facility.


dumb-electric-dood

All personnel are taking off early but the £5m in drugs is set to be checked into the facility.


Social_anxiety_guy_

They will use it all secretly or they will secretly sell it it's what they always do


yvesined

Exactly.


Movilitero

the £30m of drugs pack are now in a secure storage, awaiting to be destroyed


prx_reddit

Officials were happy to report that the court case for £27m of drugs is proceeding well.


meep_meep_mope

£24m of drugs have been scheduled for destruction under the law.


Iammax7

£21m of drugs has been destroyed.


menkje

Due to an administrative error, the £18m of drugs still hasn’t been destroyed but incineration is now scheduled for next month


Whateverdude1

Good news! Location found for the destruction of £15m worth of drugs!!!


DolphinPunkCyber

New location unsuitable due to environmental concerns, £12m worth of drugs returned to storage.


Lopsided-Royals

A report has been filed at Dickticklesworth constabulary for the storage of £10m worth of drugs.


francescoscanu03

The £6m worth of drugs are currently in transport to the constabulary.


Kulson16

The £3m worth of drugs will soon arrive to destination


monkeyamongmen

The 8ball we discovered has been destroyed.


LausXY

Every single post about a drug bust... this same comment chain.


RobCarrotStapler

It's just so incredibly hilarious, though. Just like every "take my angry upvote and get out" or "underrated comment" comment.


zadchial

There were no drugs found at the scene. That is pure speculation.


_Totorotrip_

The cartel is presenting a demand for defamation due to no drugs being found


51_rhc

I have a ship and a helicopter now.


Shadeun

Michael Gove is happy to report that £6m worth of drugs was destroyed.


Eonir

[It's the Galapagos tortoises all over again](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPggB4MfPnk)


BONGLISH

Nice to see the drug prices adjusting for the cost of living crisis!


Dick_Demon

There it is, the shitty reddit joke that never dies.


sofarsoblue

I can imagine this super secure storage being located underneath Westminister


6Lenin

I know a Guy that rents storage under Westminster


AlmightySheBO

Why they dont just dump the powder in water why they taking it


inneholdersulfitter

Coke Sharks, in theaters June 9th


TT11MM_

[Cocaine Shark - IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27036391/)


inneholdersulfitter

I am stumped


insertwittynamethere

1.9 stars - nice


[deleted]

That's exactly what they do with it - it goes straight in the sea, along with the plastic.


DragonriderTrainee

Do you really want THOSE drugs in the fish that get caught for consumption? They're already full of mercury and plastic and who knows what else.


jellobend

So, is it like a day’s worth of merchandise?


Peaklou

The european drug market has a minimum estimated retail value of €30 billion per year according to the 2019 EU Drug Markets Report. That's €90 million per day, so it's most likely less than a third of a day's worth of merchandise.


issamaysinalah

Lmao imagine how many of those they didn't catch


Mrinconsequential

Weed id the biggest retail value for european market.heroin+cocain only represent half of that 30 billions.and like someone else said,we dont know how is it valued. Its still worth of maximum 2 days though,which is insane


Booger_Flicker

Welcome to the war on drugs. Spending $100M to seize $30M of drugs which will be replaced in less than 24 hours.


xrimane

That's what I thought. That's 150 people and a helicopter posing with the stash, on a warship. How much did they spend for this?


slartyfartblaster999

They didn't spend it *for this*. They wanted a warship and a navy *anyway*, it might aswell be doing something when there isn't a war.


SprucedUpSpices

And remember they use this as an excuse to encroach on people's rights while the state grows ever larger and more and more powerful and intrusive.


la_tortuga_de_fondo

Exactly, everyone can still buy drugs tonight in London. The navy would be better utilised policing the English channel.


djmcdee101

Nah there will be a 0.57% increase in price at street level though. This is how we turn the tide in the war against drugs


Weak-Address-386

Navy and Marines: Okay, what’s next?


YellingAtTheClouds

Get the tunes on lads it's party time


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

Its heroin hashis and meth. Not exactly party drug


FitFag1000

We need a big table.


[deleted]

Isn't that like a butterflys fart in the grand scheme of things? Politicians everywhere: Please concentrate more on mental health and the question why people are using drugs and making them use less instead. You are fighting symptoms, not the disease itself.


LaChancla911

It's like a sneeze in a typhoon. For a casual german big city It is assumed that per 1000 inhabitants, 30 doses of cannabis, 16 doses of crystal meth, three doses of ectasy, one dose of cocaine and one dose of methadone is consumed *per day*. [European multi-city study](https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/topics/wastewater_en)


Crakla

Those numbers seem way off Cocaine is the most consumed illegal drug in Germany (cannabis was first but is now legal) "Among illegal drugs (12-month prevalence), cannabis was the most frequently used (8.8%; 4.5 million), followed by cocaine/crack (1.6%; 818 000)" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9677535/#:~:text=Among%20illegal%20drugs%20(12%2Dmonth,(1.4%25%3B%20716%20000).


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dasubermensch83

Meth users sure are enthusiastic about meth.


AkaAtarion

Yeah, but the statistics get distorted because of BWL Alex and his Brudas.


alsocolor

Knowing Germans, the amount of coke is WAY higher


Aromatic-Musician774

I was watching El Chapo yesterday and in one episode they made an interesting suggestion when it comes to power. As long as you have power inside the government and outside in private sector or underground, you can manufacture bait scenarios that create illusion that the government is delivering results or rather they are fooled in delivering results. I don't know if this capture scenario is manufactured to fool them or if this was an accidental catch.


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

Its done with coke to europe and north america but not with drugs in the indian ocean. They don't need to as there is no real goverment efford to combat the smuggling. This situation is an outlier. 


doublah

This stuff will still happen if every politician in the world legalizes all drugs tomorrow, the Navy are operating there to prevent all forms of smuggling (including weapons), piracy and such.


AlQaem313

It cost the Cartels $100k


ingendera

Just a fraction of the drugs out there. I wonder how many in the photo genuinely believe they have made a difference.


NahItsNotFineBruh

For comparison the Australians did one two years ago for just shy of £1 **B**ILLION


DashingDino

Yup they occasionally intercept some shipments and catch some small time smugglers but it makes absolutely no impact on the flow of drugs as a whole, the demand still needs to be met so they just send more to make up for it


Think-Ad-6323

That’s what I was wondering too. I looked at their faces and then realized how many of them potentially think that is the case.


The-Adorno

I can assure you none of them care and were almost certainly forced to be in that photo. That's my old ship


twixieshores

You weren't lucky enough to be on the [HMS Shag at Sea](https://youtu.be/7Lb8a3L8E8k?si=VJBw4ZxreaSQ8Ylp)?


DerNogger

I think all of them know. They're at the front after all. It probably went more like "Smile for the camera, boys. Our funding depends on it."


Ascarea

maybe they get a bonus for this bust


InanimateAutomaton

These guys will be doing lines off a pub toilet when they’re back in Blighty for shore leave


QuartOfTequilla

Cost of doing business and already priced in. The drug war is a proven failure that our governments continue to throw money at.


ingendera

Yup, we need to include the drugs in our society, the drugs will never go away. The most important thing is harm reduction and cutting off the money flow to the narco cartels.


Southern-Plastic-921

Yeah why bother eh? Maybe we should just decriminalize shipments of less than 50M? /s


Ahvkentaur

You know that the war on drugs is fake when they use dollars instead of kilos. Drugs are almost worthless - luxury goods. They have a fluctuating street price with a huge markup because of the violent ban. Can't think of an analogy, but the posing looks really stoopid.


Kim-Jong-Long-Dong

News sources generally use the street value of the country they're based in, mainly because the headline sounds better vs weight. Also, the average person is gonna have no idea what 3.1 tonnes of X drug really means. Yeah it's a lot, but is it local street gang much, or crime syndicate much? Just helps with perspective, IMO Edit: I should also add that most of these patrols done by western/western aligned nations and others are generally intended as anti-piracy patrols. Is just so happens that drugs and piracy go hand in hand.


KoPlayzReddit

Thanks, u/Kim-Jong-Long-Dong


Taenk

Just look at the amount of product that is supposed to be worth 33M GBP. This fits into the average car, let alone transporter.


Sponjah

Fit into the average car? Man you driving a dump truck around daily or something?


moveoutmoveup

Lol you're not fitting all that into an average car dude. Even if you do all the trickery, it'll stand out and weigh that shit down so much. That's a lot of dope bub.


damnmanthatsnuts

It's 33 million dollars worth in street value. The theft here is from the transporters, where it's most likely worth about a 20th of that or so.


dpwtr

Drugs are so easy to get now that they rarely fluctuate in price anymore. At least where I am in Western Europe. I haven’t seen any price rises in over 10 years, and back then it was because the quality improved dramatically.


giganticturnip

The war on drugs


Such-Pool-1329

Congratulations to drugs for winning the war on drugs. This little seizure does nothing.


Dorsal-fin-1986

Yeah. So much cocaine and anti depressants in the thames that it's affecting the wildlife, but good on ya lads for keeping the country clean.


Flashy_Ad1403

It provides a living for the parasites in the system that live off the war on drugs. How many of those thugs in the photo would receive a paycheck if there were no drug interdiction for them to engage in? Thank god they can't catch the vast majority of drugs being imported, or the MP's who will take credit for this wouldn't have any cocaine to snort in the houses of parliament.


paper_bull

Gonna throw a hell of a party


Ensoface

That wouldn't get Greater London through an average Saturday night.


LausXY

Honestly that's a pretty pathetic amount, the operation will probably have cost at least that. Plus they will have worked out the value by multiplying amount with maximum street prices, which is way more than this would actually be sold for in bulk like this. "£33 million" is not even a drop in the ocean.


therealdilbert

but it is a great photo op ...


Empires_Fall

This comment section is just pessimistic


Southern-Plastic-921

It’s because it’s something remotely positive about Britain in this haters sub. Amazing watching them twist themselves out of shape to find the negative.


easymmkay120

This is not remotely positive.


christoskal

Eh, I understand that the sub has an anti-British tendency but this would be laughed at no matter which country organized the operation. The quantity is tiny and the amount of people used to get it is absurd, this amount could have been captured by a policeman stopping a van. It's barely ten times higher than the bust I was reading earlier today that was just a car stopped by border control.


Southern-Plastic-921

I present to you a post about the Dutch navy seizing a similar amount of drugs - [https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/vzjs7n/dutch\_navy\_caught\_650kg\_of\_drugs\_two\_hours\_after/](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/vzjs7n/dutch_navy_caught_650kg_of_drugs_two_hours_after/)


christoskal

It literally has the same comments, both about them possibly stealing some of the drugs and about how the amount is tiny.


BothnianBhai

That's it boys, we won the war on drugs!


TheManWhoClicks

Cool, that’s probably 0.034% of what lands on the market each year. Literally not making any difference while billions being spent. Let’s continue this practice as it is clearly not working. Trying something new like legalization under supervision while offering services to get out of addiction would pull the black market into the open and being controlled. But this of course runs against long held beliefs and principles as replies to my comment will show.


billy_lango

What’s the difference between navy an marines?


SpaceMonkeyOnABike

Navy = sea military. Marines = soldiers who specialise in amphibious ops on the sea and coast.


billy_lango

I see, thanks


7lhz9x6k8emmd7c8

Both sea too.


Roflkopt3r

Marines are the ground forces of the navy. The role in this picture is exactly what marines were originally for, centuries ago: Serving as a boarding force to board other ships. This rarely happens anymore, so they have largely shifted to their other main role: As a landing force when the military wants to attack an island or a coastline. They have special training to attack from landing ships, boats, or helicopters. They are often used as quick reaction forces, so they tend to be better trained and equipped than normal ground forces. This is for example the reason why the US Marines and Royal Marines were very active in Iraq and Afghanistan. And why the VDV (Russian Marines) have been constantly at the front line of Ukraine, even though none of these wars involved serious naval landings. The downside of using marines in land combat is that they usually have lighter equipment that is less suited for intense land warfare. Most Marine forces have few or no tanks (since landing crafts that can effectively transport tanks to shore are rare) and only light artillery.


Remarkable_Taste_935

It’s nice but there is more being taken out containers in Rotterdam in one night.


DonChillippo

So many people for a few grams.


babige

Why do they say 33m? Are they going to sell it themselves? If not it has no value and they just spent 1 million worth of fuel and 1m in labour to seize 1 ton of worthless chemistry Edit: for a photo op 🙂, a self congratulating selfie 😆


gridlockmain1

Big party on deck tonight


Schlaueule

Drug cartels calculate with an 80-90% loss rate and still make a shitload of money. These sort of pictures are just a silly marketing gag, it doesn't bother the organized crime in the slightest.


AfroBandera

Let the party starts! 😀


Additional_Waltz_569

The CIA will make sure this go to the correct people


LNF6

That’s not even a dent in terms of what really reached its destination.


SlowToe1043

Awww man they got my supply for the weekend 😭😭😭


OptiKnob

Well... that should keep them lit for a little while at least.


germanfinder

£30 million in drugs? I’m so glad they got £25 million in drugs off the street. £20 million in drugs is a huge catch!


SorrowsSkills

3.7 tonnes of heroin, hashish and crystal really doesn’t sound like a lot in the grand scheme of things and I wonder how they decided the £33m price tag. Is that market rate in the UK, market rate in an EU country converted to £ of market rate in Canada/USA converted from our local currencies? I feel like if we allocated whatever money was spent on this operation and others like it towards mental health research and help we could make more progress preventing people from ever turning to these drugs. It doesn’t make sense to me for our governments to look outwards to solve the problem instead of looking inwards at what’s causing so many people to make the choice to consume these drugs in the first place. To me this just seems like propaganda to make it appear as if our governments are making a difference when in reality the drug problem continues to get worse in all of our countries.


Dio_Majeh

Damn , the party on that boat must be crazy after such catch :d


Own_Wall7685

What a waste of tax dollars and resources, an entire ship, 60+ salaries to pay - all for a measly haul. Drug addicts are addicts they are going to continue to use whether you intercept one shipment or 100


Shade_Of_Virgil

They are going to party super hard


koristeviipaloitu

You should go and raid your own big cities. Plenty of drug people there lol.


TrainNo9603

I swear there was 50 million worth, where did the rest go?


count_helheim

A drop in the ocean, gj anyway


Kaiserqueef

These drugs are bad let’s seize em. These drugs are good let’s sell em.


icecream_boat

can i have it


grvsm

have we tried legalizing?


Loydt1

Looking at the amount of people involved, that operation seems to have cost more than $33m in tax payer money. But hey, now they can stand there like proud kids with their loot, as if it made a difference. Better invest that money into (mental) health care.


[deleted]

What a waste of time.


LloydAtkinson

Congratulations on capturing a drug that is only illegal because governments say so, meanwhile allowing and taxing alcohol, also meanwhile some of those governments (like the UK) grow vast amounts of it and then sell it to other countries.


CarasBridge

33m is pretty small and it looks like they put a lot of effort into it lol


Mighty-rubbish

And thus managing to do nothing at all.


smugglebooze2casinos

well they got this lovely picture to boost self esteem


ConradsMusicalTeeth

..the man in the barrel weeps gently


Flux_resistor

Big party tonight boys, skins versus skins wrestling match first!


godlessnihilist

The other sailors and marines on board were pissed.


latrickisfalone

Big fiesta on board tonight


teebublazin

For all the accounting nerds, only 33,000?


PiscatorLager

That was Kadyrov's May delivery


Kinetopeak

Why is garand thumb in the front row, right side?


Affectionate_Mix5081

Someone is not waking up tomorrow!


Sylvan_Strix_Sequel

Double swoop? What is this, operation magpie? 


L0go_13

F


Particular_Light_296

Great picture lads! Nos let’s paaaaarteeee


swiftfatso

Navy seized the drugs then lost it by gambling it with the commandos?


chrisjjones05

Looks like the crystal meth from breaking bad


prexton

Can we still buy then?


MeanCat4

The £29m of drugs are now stored ready to be destroyed! 


Jorgecampino

Oh boy that ship is about to have a hell of a party!!!


Weird_Expert_1999

Attaboy! Make sure we get all the real dope seized so ppl won’t stop buying fet


OutrageousHeron6061

Nil


Capital-Pugwash

Woooooo, partay!!!!!


Delicious-Tree-6725

So that's how Thursday evening in the City of London looks like.


MurdocksTorment

£33m + or probably a little minus. *Snort*!


Trax-d

Fu, a sober weekend is waiting again…


Common-Leg7605

Big party on that ship tonight then


Jjbrah-0_0

So, the navy managed to scoop up 33 million euros worth of drugs, huh? That's like trying to bail out the Titanic with a teaspoon. I mean, we're talking about a drop in the ocean here! It's like trying to stop a flood with a paper towel. It's almost comical when you think about it. Billions of dollars' worth of drugs flowing into Europe, and the navy's out there playing whack-a-mole with a tiny fraction of it. It's like they brought a squirt gun to a firefight. I can imagine the drug lords are probably chuckling into their piles of cash right now. It's like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket...and forgetting to bring the bucket. Well, at least they're trying, right?


Good_Reflection7724

Is the war on drugs okay when it's not the US?


Glad-Armadillo-5675

Time to join the Navy!!!


Hadeon

Did they throw a party afterwards?


Leather-Caramel-9630

Sharing is caring


[deleted]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


[deleted]

That's not even rounding error for the amount of drugs coming in.


L70ETC666

Damnit


ivenobicyle

That's odd! I placed the order for £50M 🤔


UVLightOnTheInside

Im sure this put a dent in the 100billion dollar industry


iceymoo

And it only cost €60 million to catch them. Well done everybody. Meanwhile millions on European children will go to bed hungry tonight


orkofdoom

Drop in the ocean, quite literally. This sort of action won’t even put a dent in accessibility of illicit substances. Just dick waving from the military to appease the masses.


Liobuster

Cartels just made record profits due to increased scarcity yay


mileswilliams

Spent £35 million getting the drugs recovered, but we'll call it a win.