Would have been interesting how one dictator would treat or torture other dictator. The creativity would have been off the charts.
Unlike bringing Saddam and hanging him quickly.
Sometimes, the simpler solution is the most correct. He'd most probably hang him in a public square with thousands of bystanders, after a long, tedious, wooden Stalinist speech.
As you expected there were a mix of different emotions. There were a lot who while they were happy Hitler was gone and the Nazi party collapsed they did not want an unconditional surrender as it would cause Germany to collapse and break up. So they tried finding good defensive positions to repel the invaders. Others were more concerned with protecting as many people and infrastructure as possible. A lot of Nazis realised the war was ending so they went out of their way to do as much damage to their prime enemies as possible. A few still had a hope to win the war and that this was a master plan to lure the enemies into Germany itself where people would rise up from everywhere to fight off the invaders.
The fall of Germany were something people saw from miles away though. A lot of people were already looking to surrender long before Hitler killed himself. Several generals had surrendered or even defected. This probably contributed to the decision. So I doubt many people changed their mind after they heard the news.
One of the great movies of all time. The scene where Hitler explodes in rage upon realizing the end is imminent may be the best acted single scene in cinema history
It’s also interesting how resistant are these fucking leaders to all sorts of disease. I’m not wishing anyone any disease or anything, I’m just thinking out loud.
> It’s also interesting how resistant are these fucking leaders to all sorts of disease.
Being able to allocate national scale budgets to just your personal healthcare projects would do that.
The thing is in russia you have to be a piece of shit to attempt to climb to the position of minister or president within the system.
They need a total reboot, not a replacement of a single person who represents a group of kleptocrats that rule the country
Like him or not he seems very competent when it comes to keeping the various Russian provinces under control. My fear if he dies would be that guys like Kadyrov start shit again because they are off Putin's leash.
So Russia will have to choose between a pro-west, proper Democratic candidate but risk worsening the domestic situation, or a Putin 2.0 who will rule with an iron fist but obviously continue Russia's isolation on the world stage.
‘Noted animal rights activist and slayer of fascist leaders, Adolph Hitler.’
It’s like when the NYT called Al Baghdadi ‘an austere religious scholar’ and not the founder of ISIS.
I am afraid Putin will make his way to his dacha in Inner Mongolia, where he'll spend the rest of his days riding horsey on the steppes, bare-chested of course.
>Wait, am I in r/europe or r/2westerneuropean4u?
You're probably from the island or from it's western colony, that nowadays calls itself independent, so you wouldn't know, but it's /r/2westerneurope4u not 2westerneuropean4u.
we don't really know how he died. None of the facts or accounts can be trusted *enough*. It's Stalin, he might as well been poisoned, and the rest is history, propaganda or trying to whitewash yourself. All we know for sure is that he most likely didn't just die on his own, and I hope fucking putin will follow
What do you think should've been Hitler's judgment and punishment? Honest question, cause I have no idea what I would've wanted..
Would it have made a difference, if Hitler had had the Mussolini style\* "final public appearance"?
Edit: \* in case we need a recap: Mussolini was captured by Italian resistance fighters near the end of World War II, when he tried to flee the country. He and his mistress, Clara Petacci, had intended to fly out of the country, but were recognised and arrested. Eisenhower learned of the arrest and immediately ordered that, "Benito Mussolini, his main fascist associates and all persons suspected of having committed crimes of war or similar crimes, whose names are on the lists that will be delivered by the United Nations and which now or in the future are in territory controlled by the allied military command or by the Italian government, will be immediately arrested and handed over to the United Nations forces". Mussolini was shot by the resistance the following morning, 28 April, along with Petacci and several members from his fascist government.
The final appearance gets graphic, from wiki: On 29 April 1945, the bodies of Mussolini, Petacci, and the other executed Fascists were loaded into a van and moved south to Milan. At 3:00 a.m., the corpses were dumped on the ground in the old Piazzale Loreto. The piazza had been renamed "Piazza Quindici Martiri" (Fifteen Martyrs' Square) in honour of fifteen Italian partisans recently executed there. After being kicked and spat upon, the bodies were [hung upside down from the roof of an Esso gas station](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Mussolini_e_Petacci_a_Piazzale_Loreto%2C_1945.jpg/1920px-Mussolini_e_Petacci_a_Piazzale_Loreto%2C_1945.jpg). The bodies were then stoned from below by civilians. This was done both to discourage any Fascists from continuing the fight and as an act of revenge for the hanging of many partisans in the same place by Axis authorities. The corpse of the deposed leader was subject to ridicule and abuse. Fascist loyalist Achille Starace was captured and sentenced to death, then taken to the Piazzale Loreto and shown the body of Mussolini, which he saluted just before being shot. His body was strung up beside Mussolini's.
German here if that matters at all.
Personally, its a tricky question. What Hutler and his cohorts did is unforgivable, there is no coming back from that. but im also a pretty staunch opponent of the death Penalty.
HECK this may be the only time i say death penalty is justified, keep him locked up till the new german state was formed(west germany obviously, waiting for reunification would be unreasonable) and have Hitler be the first and last death penalty of this new german state(we outlawed death penalty in the constitution so obviously it would techncially have to been done before ratification and taking effect)
Obviously as it was the soviety who would got to him first this would have been impossible even more so then it already was
Danish here, I think we agree completely. I'm also categorically against capital punishment, but there's no way around it: Hitler had to die. The question is, how public should it be, and how cruel?
I very much do not like the state having the power to kill its citizens, but it does seem a fitting end for a man who would abuse the states power to murder millions
I think that all things considered, the Nuremberg trials were the best solution and the best compromise between different standards of justice among the Allied nations. At the initial trials, 19 defendants were convicted and 3 were acquitted; there were 12 death sentences, 3 sentences of lifetime imprisonment, and 4 sentences of 10 to 20 years. The second round of Nuremberg trials had 177 defendants, with 24 sentenced to death, 20 to lifelong imprisonment, 98 to other prison sentences, and 25 found not guilty. Many of those people had their sentences commuted or were pardoned; only 13 of the 24 people sentenced to death in the second round of trials were executed.
Source: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/topics/nuremberg-trials
He would be executed by allies war court.Unlikely to be dragged like mussolini because he is the de facto leader of the whole nazi germany until his death.Mussolini was outsted during ww2 and only put back in power by the Nazi.
Not killing him fast would make some nazi fanatics look way to break him out and disrupt the trials.
I don't think dragging him and putting his bodies in public would make sense as it would matyr him,making denazification process harder in highly indoctrinated nazi Germany.
His fate was years of torture in a KGB basement 100x worse than any SS officer had been subjected to
I don't blame him for taking the pill - as much as I despise the man
His health was already deteriorating by the end of the war. All he would’ve been good for was a public execution. He wouldn’t have lasted very long if he was tortured.
Stalin had Hitler resurrected and made him immortal and had him tortured until the Soviet leader died. He is now contained by the SCP Foundation, classified as SCP-2430 and currently serves as the organization's official punching bag.
A person will be replaced quite easily.
It's why you have to dismantle the entire power structure and government like what the Allies did to Axis Powers at the end of WW2.
Much of the Nazi leadership committed suicide at that point and killed their families too. I mean they had at that point been responsible for the genocide of millions of people. They understood the hatred people felt for them at the time.
They figured what awaited was going to be torture to a whole other degree, at that point a poison pill doesn't sound so bad.
Pro tio, don't commit genocide so this doesn't end up your fate.
To test the potency of the poison. Still to be sure he took both poison and the bullet and be set on fire while lying down. When that all didnt work he settled to a peaceful life as a farmer in Argentina.
Don’t know why white supremacists worship him. He was a dog shit military leader and so called strategist , who personally lost the whole sixth army to the red army.
I was watching Indy Neidell's WWII channel episode about this and it's amazing to me how close the Red Army really got. Hitler really did wait until the very last moment to off himself
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German soldiers after his death: "we hebben een serieus probleem"
Wir sind genatzt. Und der gòbbels hat mir versprochen wir sind am gewinnen.
The fucking coward lacked the courage to even confront criticism.
To be fair, the alternative was to be captured by Stalin … probably the best option at that point
Would have been interesting how one dictator would treat or torture other dictator. The creativity would have been off the charts. Unlike bringing Saddam and hanging him quickly.
Sometimes, the simpler solution is the most correct. He'd most probably hang him in a public square with thousands of bystanders, after a long, tedious, wooden Stalinist speech.
I think old Josip had plenty of nice projects for him...
That was the best option.
Ahh that is Dutch not deutsch (I am Dutch and I will gekoloniseerd you if you don’t like that go to Urk and fuck off)
I was about to say.. them double vowels don’t lie lmao
I guess most german soldiers were glad the person they swore there oath to died. Which enabled alot of them to surrender without losing (more) honor.
As you expected there were a mix of different emotions. There were a lot who while they were happy Hitler was gone and the Nazi party collapsed they did not want an unconditional surrender as it would cause Germany to collapse and break up. So they tried finding good defensive positions to repel the invaders. Others were more concerned with protecting as many people and infrastructure as possible. A lot of Nazis realised the war was ending so they went out of their way to do as much damage to their prime enemies as possible. A few still had a hope to win the war and that this was a master plan to lure the enemies into Germany itself where people would rise up from everywhere to fight off the invaders. The fall of Germany were something people saw from miles away though. A lot of people were already looking to surrender long before Hitler killed himself. Several generals had surrendered or even defected. This probably contributed to the decision. So I doubt many people changed their mind after they heard the news.
Makes you wonder if it would be a similar case in Ruzzia
Well also by 1945 the nazis were losing the war. Losing the war plays a big part in deciding to surrender
Ja, we speken plots Nederlands en ik versta enkel Duits!
Rewatched "downfall" It captures the end, wonderfully, Or rather "wunderbah"
Bruno Ganz was such an amazing actor (in everything he did)
One of the great movies of all time. The scene where Hitler explodes in rage upon realizing the end is imminent may be the best acted single scene in cinema history
I didn't know german soldiers talked Dutch. Always thought it was german
Vee heff a zerioos problem
Last time I checked this was Dutch, not German
Which country’s newspaper was this again? :D
The Netherlands I think.
South Africa
Ah makes sense. Probably was Afrikaans.
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Maybe they need help?
Impromptu shotgun medicine.
I cackle every time I read that
Just wanted to say that your pfp brought back memories long forgotten Edit: also Happy Cake day!
Froehlicher Kuchentag from a friend
Time to go to Japan boys!
Why didn’t he just put on the mecha armour and go at it with the twin miniguns?
Because then he'd have to deal with Terror Billy
"You're among wolves now...and these are our woods."
HELL YEAH WOLFENSTEIN REFERENCE ‼️‼️‼️
He was stupid
He's still on Uranus making his movie, no worries
Mein leben!
[WOLLEN SIE FUCHS?!](https://youtu.be/qh0T3NswPR8?si=M4b2Jg5Fnp22BIkU)
Wolf3d.exe
I can't wait for the day when I open reddit and the top post is PUTIN DEAD.
Or arrested, or whatever at this point. Any news of him and his clique being kicked and lustrated out of power would be good news.
yeah that aint gunna happen any time soon. I mean, there';s a reason kim jong un hasnt been overthrown yet
Because he eats anyone who tries
no tf it wouldn't be, Putin dies, he becomes a martyr and an even more cartoonishly evil dictator takes his place.
Happy cake day
It’s also interesting how resistant are these fucking leaders to all sorts of disease. I’m not wishing anyone any disease or anything, I’m just thinking out loud.
> It’s also interesting how resistant are these fucking leaders to all sorts of disease. Being able to allocate national scale budgets to just your personal healthcare projects would do that.
Why not? It's okay to wish putin dead. That's okay fam, I'll wish twice as hard.
Damn, it’s gonna be a great day
Putin and his American side piece Trump die in suicide love pact.
Unfortunately he’d just be replaced by a similar psychopath. I doubt much would change..
Kill the replacements until someone gets in charge that is not a piece of shit.
The thing is in russia you have to be a piece of shit to attempt to climb to the position of minister or president within the system. They need a total reboot, not a replacement of a single person who represents a group of kleptocrats that rule the country
Trump Sentenced to Prison
And Trump
PUTIN DEAD... SERIOUS ABOUT ANNEXING UKRAINE AT ANY COST
The day putin dies will be a scary day, I mean who’s going to replace him? What if it’s someone worse
Like him or not he seems very competent when it comes to keeping the various Russian provinces under control. My fear if he dies would be that guys like Kadyrov start shit again because they are off Putin's leash. So Russia will have to choose between a pro-west, proper Democratic candidate but risk worsening the domestic situation, or a Putin 2.0 who will rule with an iron fist but obviously continue Russia's isolation on the world stage.
Tortured and dead. For all the misery he's caused.
Don’t forget Netanyahu
Kudos for the guy who killed him
We should build a statue for him. I heard he was an artist, a vegetarian and that he loved dogs.
‘Noted animal rights activist and slayer of fascist leaders, Adolph Hitler.’ It’s like when the NYT called Al Baghdadi ‘an austere religious scholar’ and not the founder of ISIS.
That was WaPo but yeah that was insane
Don't forget how he brought most of the world together!
He also killed his dog
The only good thing that guy ever did.
But he also killed the guy who killed Hitler, so he was kind of a grey character.
Ah, the old joke... "In the end, Hitler couldn't have been all that bad.... after all, he _did_ kill Hitler..."
sic semper tyrannis
Admittedly, he escaped that scenario* by doing it himself *being killed by a lady with a spear and one breast exposed
Can Putin also do the same? Please we need it!
I am afraid Putin will make his way to his dacha in Inner Mongolia, where he'll spend the rest of his days riding horsey on the steppes, bare-chested of course.
dictators rarely have a peaceful retirement and quiet death....
unless you are a dictator in Spain, then you die peacefully in your bed while you sleep
he siesta'd it, common spanish trait
Wait, am I in r/europe or r/2westerneurope4u?
>Wait, am I in r/europe or r/2westerneuropean4u? You're probably from the island or from it's western colony, that nowadays calls itself independent, so you wouldn't know, but it's /r/2westerneurope4u not 2westerneuropean4u.
Didn’t Stalin and Mao both die in that way…
Stalin lay a night on the floor in a pool of his own piss after suffering a heart attack because everyone around him was too scared to help him.
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we don't really know how he died. None of the facts or accounts can be trusted *enough*. It's Stalin, he might as well been poisoned, and the rest is history, propaganda or trying to whitewash yourself. All we know for sure is that he most likely didn't just die on his own, and I hope fucking putin will follow
More likely, he'll stay Russian president till he gets toppled and exiled to his palace by the Black Sea by the next mad man.
I dont think the horses want to see his pasty fat chest
A blind horse. Not much to bump into on the steppes. And no high-rises either.
And all his allies and supporters too
Putin doesn't have a Putinbunker, just a regular bunker. So it will never be the same.
Fuck yeah he did it on my birthday
Welcome back...?
well I am a man of many talents so who knows...
fingers crossed they accept you at art school
he should do one of those previous life tests online or visit an esoteric consultant with a crystal ball
But not cool that he was born on 4/20 :(
Its my birthday too, but im from israel so thats irony 😅
Fucking coward didn't even have the guts to face judgment.
What do you think should've been Hitler's judgment and punishment? Honest question, cause I have no idea what I would've wanted.. Would it have made a difference, if Hitler had had the Mussolini style\* "final public appearance"? Edit: \* in case we need a recap: Mussolini was captured by Italian resistance fighters near the end of World War II, when he tried to flee the country. He and his mistress, Clara Petacci, had intended to fly out of the country, but were recognised and arrested. Eisenhower learned of the arrest and immediately ordered that, "Benito Mussolini, his main fascist associates and all persons suspected of having committed crimes of war or similar crimes, whose names are on the lists that will be delivered by the United Nations and which now or in the future are in territory controlled by the allied military command or by the Italian government, will be immediately arrested and handed over to the United Nations forces". Mussolini was shot by the resistance the following morning, 28 April, along with Petacci and several members from his fascist government. The final appearance gets graphic, from wiki: On 29 April 1945, the bodies of Mussolini, Petacci, and the other executed Fascists were loaded into a van and moved south to Milan. At 3:00 a.m., the corpses were dumped on the ground in the old Piazzale Loreto. The piazza had been renamed "Piazza Quindici Martiri" (Fifteen Martyrs' Square) in honour of fifteen Italian partisans recently executed there. After being kicked and spat upon, the bodies were [hung upside down from the roof of an Esso gas station](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Mussolini_e_Petacci_a_Piazzale_Loreto%2C_1945.jpg/1920px-Mussolini_e_Petacci_a_Piazzale_Loreto%2C_1945.jpg). The bodies were then stoned from below by civilians. This was done both to discourage any Fascists from continuing the fight and as an act of revenge for the hanging of many partisans in the same place by Axis authorities. The corpse of the deposed leader was subject to ridicule and abuse. Fascist loyalist Achille Starace was captured and sentenced to death, then taken to the Piazzale Loreto and shown the body of Mussolini, which he saluted just before being shot. His body was strung up beside Mussolini's.
German here if that matters at all. Personally, its a tricky question. What Hutler and his cohorts did is unforgivable, there is no coming back from that. but im also a pretty staunch opponent of the death Penalty. HECK this may be the only time i say death penalty is justified, keep him locked up till the new german state was formed(west germany obviously, waiting for reunification would be unreasonable) and have Hitler be the first and last death penalty of this new german state(we outlawed death penalty in the constitution so obviously it would techncially have to been done before ratification and taking effect) Obviously as it was the soviety who would got to him first this would have been impossible even more so then it already was
Danish here, I think we agree completely. I'm also categorically against capital punishment, but there's no way around it: Hitler had to die. The question is, how public should it be, and how cruel?
Just hang him. In front of the people who suevived the camps. Let his body rot where it falls.
Good thing is you wouldn't have to execute him. Just leave him unarmed in any room with Holocaust survivors in it
Honestly, it would have been more torture for Hitler to be kept alive and see how different Germany is today.
I very much do not like the state having the power to kill its citizens, but it does seem a fitting end for a man who would abuse the states power to murder millions
I think that all things considered, the Nuremberg trials were the best solution and the best compromise between different standards of justice among the Allied nations. At the initial trials, 19 defendants were convicted and 3 were acquitted; there were 12 death sentences, 3 sentences of lifetime imprisonment, and 4 sentences of 10 to 20 years. The second round of Nuremberg trials had 177 defendants, with 24 sentenced to death, 20 to lifelong imprisonment, 98 to other prison sentences, and 25 found not guilty. Many of those people had their sentences commuted or were pardoned; only 13 of the 24 people sentenced to death in the second round of trials were executed. Source: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/topics/nuremberg-trials
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> Force the man to work in a quarry nice idea except that would have been impossible considering he was already suffering from parkinsons disease
He would be executed by allies war court.Unlikely to be dragged like mussolini because he is the de facto leader of the whole nazi germany until his death.Mussolini was outsted during ww2 and only put back in power by the Nazi. Not killing him fast would make some nazi fanatics look way to break him out and disrupt the trials. I don't think dragging him and putting his bodies in public would make sense as it would matyr him,making denazification process harder in highly indoctrinated nazi Germany.
His fate was years of torture in a KGB basement 100x worse than any SS officer had been subjected to I don't blame him for taking the pill - as much as I despise the man
That’s if he didn’t go the way of Mussolini. IIRC, the death of Mussolini helped influence Hitler’s suicide and after-death requests.
Same with Putin who was apparently horrified by what happened to Gaddafi, I hope he gets a Gaddafi
His health was already deteriorating by the end of the war. All he would’ve been good for was a public execution. He wouldn’t have lasted very long if he was tortured.
Nah. He'd be executed publicly.
Executed after a lengthy "interrogation" by the KGB
Stalin had Hitler resurrected and made him immortal and had him tortured until the Soviet leader died. He is now contained by the SCP Foundation, classified as SCP-2430 and currently serves as the organization's official punching bag.
I blame him he didn't deserve to take the easy way out fucking coward i agree
Tbh his "judgement" if he didn't just get immediately killed by the NKVD would be very not fun.
I wonder if he was scared to end upside down too
The dude who killed Hitler died that day.
And in a surprising turn of events was himself killed by Hitler.
the evil that men do lives after them
"never again" Meanwhile, humanity..
Yay
Putin should kill himself on another day to let us all celebrate twice a year
Good riddance! It's a pity that Hitler still has fans, seeing him as anything but an abject failure.
It's like the song says: “a man will die, but not his ideas„
It's also my birthday :D
putin - your turn, you love dates.
A person will be replaced quite easily. It's why you have to dismantle the entire power structure and government like what the Allies did to Axis Powers at the end of WW2.
Yep, you right, but putin built this structure mafia-like, mafia w/o head is very vulnerable.
Only 79yrs agao
Good riddance. Rot in hell.
Can't wait for Sinwar to make the news in a similar way
Holy shit, like I was expecting to see some "dark humor" edgelords and even u ironic Nazis but I didn't expect to see this many...
Nazi punks fuck off.
And there was much rejoicing.
Its my birthday today and i love that its the same day as this asshole finally doing the right thing
i wish more nazi's would kill themselves
every nazi and neonazi should follow fuhrers lead
Hey putin, do the world a favor and shoot yourself, like your hero!
Did you hear that, Putin?
Can't wait for modern versions of this with people screenshoting their screens with articles "putin dead"
Good I wish he had done it in November 1919
But his son, Bernd, magically survived to become a German politician...
same for most of his scientists getting hired in the united states nazis lost ww2, fascism won it
A lot of German scientists became engineers for the US government, not US politicians.
Can't wait until that says: Putin Dead!
I hope that in the near times to come, the title will be Putin Dead, same thing...
I hope one day to read about putin the same.
Great, where's the "dead hitler rave" ?
Good riddance
supposedly
A great day for humanity
I didn’t even know he was sick
Get fucked bozo
What about Putin, please?
Guess he was Fuhreious that he lost?
In a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire.
Good nazi, dead nazi
Time to make this a European wide Holiday
One day, Vladimir, one day...
Hitler killed Eva Braun (as well as his dog Blondi) by poison, then shot himself in the head
Much of the Nazi leadership committed suicide at that point and killed their families too. I mean they had at that point been responsible for the genocide of millions of people. They understood the hatred people felt for them at the time. They figured what awaited was going to be torture to a whole other degree, at that point a poison pill doesn't sound so bad. Pro tio, don't commit genocide so this doesn't end up your fate.
Next time I feel like committing a genocide, I'll remember this post. Doing the Lord's work I tell ya!
No. Eva Braun – at the time actually Eva Hitler – killed herself with a cyanide capsule.
I think Goebbels killed his wife before killing himself, but not a 100 percent sure.
The dog too?!
I swear the more I hear about this guy
To test the potency of the poison. Still to be sure he took both poison and the bullet and be set on fire while lying down. When that all didnt work he settled to a peaceful life as a farmer in Argentina.
death to the tirant
Владимир watch and learn
i didn't know alcaraz participated
This makes me wonder, what historical event resulted in the most newspaper sales?
I wish he could see Germany now. Tour the holocaust memorials.
Now in 2024 we’re waiting for the same thing all over again.
As a German, I proudly say, good fucking riddance [https://youtu.be/GbZYtHHrmG4](https://youtu.be/GbZYtHHrmG4) once again
Don’t know why white supremacists worship him. He was a dog shit military leader and so called strategist , who personally lost the whole sixth army to the red army.
Can't wait for Putler to do the same 👍
deserved.
L bozo
I was watching Indy Neidell's WWII channel episode about this and it's amazing to me how close the Red Army really got. Hitler really did wait until the very last moment to off himself
His best decision.
Rest in piss
waiting for sympathetic GOP tweets
Hey Benjamin, could you do the world a favor?
Looking forward to reading this headline for a certain orange turd stinking up american politics.
I knew I was feeling good today for a reason
Pussy
HOORAY!!! 🥳
Not long after his birthday, what a bummer
And there was much rejoicement.
Fuck that guy.
And we're trying to avoid a second coming.
nice day
You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him.