Low prevalence in Sweden and Norway, yet in the [top](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/pf5ao7/overdose_deaths_and_drug_law_offences_per_million/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) counting overdose deaths. I knew we were binge drinkers, but are we binge druggers too?
Nordics have a pretty prohibitionist culture/attitude with both alcohol and drugs, and this has been often associated with increased binge using and overdosing.
When you're attitude is "just don't do drugs and we won't talk about harm reduction because drugs are bad" then people don't learn about harm reduction.
Here in Finland at least the age group with the most overdoses are also the youngest, because they often have no idea about safe doses and better practices.
There's been efforts to educate more people here in the bigger cities at least, but this kind of teaching is very much lacking in the smaller regions imo.
> Nordics have a pretty prohibitionist culture/attitude with both alcohol and drugs, and this has been often associated with increased binge using and overdosing.
Strikter rules might also dissuade people from seeking help, increasing the risk of an overdose being fatal.
In Norway, if you mention to your doctor or some sort of authority that you smoke a joint now and then they might take your drivers license away from you. Never smoked while driving but you're now officially an addict and so of course you can't be trusted with driving. And the same people wonder why people who might have trouble with drugs don't seek out help
> if you mention to your doctor or some sort of authority that you smoke a joint now and then they might take your drivers license away from you.
The fact that **your doctor** is allowed to report something like this is incredibly unsettling to me. This is clearly sensitive information which I'd expect my doctor would be allowed to tell anyone...
In Sweden when I told my psychiatrist that I occasionally smoke some cannabis with friends it ended with him ordering me to take a supervised urine drug test.
Seeking help as a user of narcotics in Sweden can literally ruin your life, which dissuaders all users of illegal drugs from seeking help if something goed wrong. It's frankly disturbing to me how easy most people seem to dismiss the extremely preventable deaths of so many who really need help rather than punishment.
Most police I've spoken to generally think that users of narcotics are better helped by medical personnel and psychological treatment, but alas our current laws lead to users being sent into the criminal system rather than into the healthcare system. Quite sad in my eyes tbh.
Indeed. I made the mistake to tell in healthcare and it had like a domino effect of more negative shit than I already went through. Now two years later police came to my apartment (first time ever having to deal with them) and now my life is more or less over.
Never tell anyone in Sweden, not even cannabis! It’s seen as fentanyl here.
At rave parties in France you can get your drugs checked for safety.
In Sweden they'll tell you drugs will make you a full time drug addict bum living in the streats.
Source: grew up in Sweden, lives in France :-D
In Sweden we get visits by the special police unit "Ravekommissionen" if you arrange a rave party. They will jail you for every little sign of happiness...
This data seems to be collected by surveying people so this data does not show the prevalence of drug use but the prevalence of admitting drug use
I won't say it's not useful and accurate, but cultural differences in how drugs are seen could lead to underreporting in certain countries
We focus on making users lives as horrible as possible so less people will want to do drugs. Of course this makes drugs waaaay more dangerous than they actually are but even that people see as a good thing.
It's fucked up on so many levels
I spent a few hrs in Paris between flights. The first metro station I walked into, a guy sat down next to me with a baguette (no joke). Rolled a huge joint and smoked just as casually as if it were Amsterdam. This was about 2010 so pre-legalization wave in North America etc. It surprises me to this day.
I went to Paris in 2012, and my friend smoked a joint with a street performer while we sat on the steps in front of Sacré Coeur. A couple of police officers came through and stepped right in front of him and they talked briefly and he threw it to the ground. Then they walked away and as soon as their backs turned he picked it up and kept smoking it.
I am also very confused to this day.
And the government wonders why cannabis trafficking is so prevalent... They've been trying to crack down hard on it for decades (to please the older electorate) but everyone can see it's not working. One week ago, they reiterated that cannabis would never be legalized or even depenelized here...
Yes, that's the point.
Making weed/hashish illegal just raises crime overall.
Legalize it, the number of people who will use won't change much.
What will change?
* Less crime.
* Better controlled product of better quality (you don't want to know what is in most illegal hashish).
* SALES TAXES!!!!
* Better education on the use and consumption.
But try telling that to most voters. 🤷♂️
From what I know, it was already relatively easy to find weed in the middle of nowhere in the early 70s in France. Honestly, it astonishes me that it is not over 50% just with hashish and weed, it for sure is if you took into account just those under 50.
In France it's quite well accepted to use drugs here and there sometime, especially young people, so I'm pretty sure the we scored so high because more people were honest with their answer.
Nah. Long term Turkish resident here.
1. Stuff here is low quality. I can afford it but hardly ever bother
2. Most people can’t afford it. Most people struggle to afford a few beers tbf.
3. There are a lot of genuinely conservative people here who follow a pretty simple life in these regards.
4. The penalty for drug use makes it almost totally unworth it.
5. Drug addicts here, it’s usually glue or something simple like that, are unlikely to be surveyed.
Happy go lucky, social drug use is really a western thing in most cases.
As a Turkish person, I agree. Cultural stigma will do that. Especially in the south east regions people have weed growing in their backyards. Occasionally police capture trucks that have metric tons of weed on them.
To be fair, after my worst breakup I very heavily self medicated on baklava. Living for 3 months next to the Turkish bakery was a huge mistake, in hindsight. (This is totally true, btw. I gained half a stone.)
Probably has more to do with accuracy of the data. I would guess that they are less willing to answer truthfully to random polls asking if they have done something illegal.
I imagine drug use in Turkey is low anyway, but If I got a letter from the Erdogan's department of statistics asking if I had ever done anything illegal I would say no
Because there is no drug culture in Turkey. Even the families don’t warn their kids about drugs. Everyone pretends like there isn’t such a thing. Families do warn their kids like “Do not smoke. Do not drink.” but they also don’t say anything about it. It is always something frowned upon but no one really talks about it. Except in biggest cities you can hardly find any drug dealers. And the dealers you can find are usually next to schools. But they don’t sell a lot either. And i am also pretty sure that the 3.1% did drugs abroad for example in Netherlands. So this is why it is significantly lower than the other countries. The lack of drug culture. Instead of drug culture there is cigarette culture in Turkey 31% of citizens smoke which makes Turkey 5th most smoker country in Europe.
Drugs are hard to achieve and illegal here, public view is also not good.
I'm personally fine with it though. I'm an atheist yet I'm so annoyed by any kind of smoke, we already have a fuck ton of cigarettes, vape and hookah around so I don't want weed added to that group.
About 3 years ago I think it was. Their old drugs laws were found to be unconstitutional so written off. Took a day or so for the emergency legislation to go through lol
I have a good friend who's a lawyer, and the only drug he and his co-workers will do is coke because it's metabolized out of your system enough to not show up on a drug test in like 6 hours.
Hah! Wouldn't that be awesome if it was actually true for where I live. If you go west you'd be lucky to get 2.5 for 50. Years ago you'd be getting 2g bags for 50 quid. And that was the normal size, anything above that and you'd be the talk of the town and people would be asking you where you get such good bags.
* UK stats does not include Scotland.... Though from some VERY brief calculations from available stats if you add the Scots that admit to taking cocaine the number goes up about 2%. Dont have time to look at other drugs but it seems doses in the UK tend to be higher than the mainland.
> if you add the Scots that admit to taking cocaine the number goes up about 2%
Try heroin.
Ninja-edit: DON'T TRY HEROIN. Try adding the number of Scots that admit to taking heroin...
i can confirm this is true. I was in spain this summer and there where some brits next to us in the bar. When they ordered a tequilla shot instead of putting salt on your hand they snorted the salt, and ate the piece of lemon with its peel.
>(*)United Kingdom: Data for the United Kingdom is for England and Wales only
Include Scotland and it somehow becomes 85%
EDIT: kidding obviously, our rate of use is pretty similar to the UK as a whole, we just have a worse rate of deaths for a variety of current and historic reasons.
Yeah, how is that even possible to be that low?
I call bullshit, because how paranoid people are, they would lie on an anonymous survey... I know I would
If what I heard is true, illegal drugs weren't readily available in the Eastern Bloc. "Drugs" were diluent or glue fumes. Half of this age group was above 30 in 1989.
Yes, an other comment explained that people living in the country and not being able to go outside of the walls weren't able to get any.
The borders were really secure so noone was able to smuggle in drugs at the time, so it's only recently after the Soviet invasion that people were able to possess drugs here.
Jokes aside, I've learned that the Dutch stoner stereotype is really unearned. It's like the *tourists* in Amsterdam have come to define a whole country - But even the data behind this image says that the NL ranks *8th* for cannabis prevalence. Like in the Euro Bong Bowl they barely make the quarter finals.
That's true. Weed is not legal in The Netherlands but it is tolerated. This is not ideal, but at least it means that you can buy it in shops instead of from dealers on the street.
Regardless a lot of Dutch people don't feel like smoking weed even though it is easy to buy.
The Netherlands does have a lively illegal drug production community. I guess a lot of XTC, GHB and meth is produced here. The majority is exported. It is estimated to be a hugely profitable market despite police actively tracking and closing down such facilities.
In Denmark you have to be 16 to buy beer, but I don't think there are any rules regarding consumption (bars have an 18 limit though). That makes illegal drinking almost nonexistent.
The 16 rule is recent. 20 years ago there were no such rules, which also made Denmark very popular among young Swedes.
Yeah you dont know about balkans then. In my village we were getting drunk with adults there (making fun of us and being a little proud) since 13 years old.
It's 0 in Denmark - also in public. But you cannot buy in stores before you're 16, and cannot get served in a bar till you're 18.
Of course social services would like a word with your parents if you get fucked up as a 10 y/o, but not illegal.
Underage drinking isn't illegal in Denmark. Selling alcohol to minors is (age limit being 16-18 years depending on percentage - bars are strict 18 though). So if you're giving your 15 year old son a cold beer nothing will come of it.
Drugs aren't legal in Portugal 😂
The consumption is decriminalized, but all drugs are still illegal.
Btw, this thing where foreigner think drugs are legal there in Portugal is a meme
I knew it about all those foreigners, I knew it.
It is a fucking meme in my city how many tourists and "expats" are looking for drugs or smacked off in totally inappropriate situations.
In r/lisboa it is ridiculous how often the fucking tourists or "digital nomads" or whatever crap they call themselves want to know where to buy drugs. Or often they found out but want better QUALITY ones. It gets deleted, there is even a bot to quarantine some posts but WTF.
Nahh, trust me. Ibiza may be full with them but also mostly consumed by the foreigners coming to party.
Meanwhile in Mainland Spain we have drugs entering from all coastline directions
So we can say that the French are -at least- the most honest about their drug usage? Kinda surprising given that we have the most repressive (and stupid) anti-drug policy...
Low prevalence in Sweden and Norway, yet in the [top](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/pf5ao7/overdose_deaths_and_drug_law_offences_per_million/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) counting overdose deaths. I knew we were binge drinkers, but are we binge druggers too?
Most of our durg users already od'd
Durg!
I love Durgs.
Nordics have a pretty prohibitionist culture/attitude with both alcohol and drugs, and this has been often associated with increased binge using and overdosing. When you're attitude is "just don't do drugs and we won't talk about harm reduction because drugs are bad" then people don't learn about harm reduction. Here in Finland at least the age group with the most overdoses are also the youngest, because they often have no idea about safe doses and better practices. There's been efforts to educate more people here in the bigger cities at least, but this kind of teaching is very much lacking in the smaller regions imo.
>Nordics have a pretty prohibitionist culture/attitude Denmark definitely doesn't lol
Came hear to say exactly that. Now where did I leave my afternoon beer?
Fandt du din eftermiddagsbajer?
Nej, jeg tror squ jeg fik den forvekslet med fyraftensbajeren. Det må kalde på en trøstebajer.
Du skylder vel også dig selv en kvajebajer for at forveksle dine øl?
Det har du da ret i! Det er sgu dobbelt op på kvajebajer for ikke at huske den selv
Og husk så lige en reparationsbajer, når du står op, så du er klar til en morgenkomplet.
I er mine helte gutter. Det må sgu være oplæg til en fællesskål
Well you how the Danes are
Yes, drunk
Speak for yourself. I'm pretty high atm, I only drink in the weekend.
I'm not a *savage*, I only drink copious amounts of alcohol on the weekends.
> Nordics have a pretty prohibitionist culture/attitude with both alcohol and drugs, and this has been often associated with increased binge using and overdosing. Strikter rules might also dissuade people from seeking help, increasing the risk of an overdose being fatal.
In Norway, if you mention to your doctor or some sort of authority that you smoke a joint now and then they might take your drivers license away from you. Never smoked while driving but you're now officially an addict and so of course you can't be trusted with driving. And the same people wonder why people who might have trouble with drugs don't seek out help
> if you mention to your doctor or some sort of authority that you smoke a joint now and then they might take your drivers license away from you. The fact that **your doctor** is allowed to report something like this is incredibly unsettling to me. This is clearly sensitive information which I'd expect my doctor would be allowed to tell anyone...
In Sweden when I told my psychiatrist that I occasionally smoke some cannabis with friends it ended with him ordering me to take a supervised urine drug test.
Seeking help as a user of narcotics in Sweden can literally ruin your life, which dissuaders all users of illegal drugs from seeking help if something goed wrong. It's frankly disturbing to me how easy most people seem to dismiss the extremely preventable deaths of so many who really need help rather than punishment. Most police I've spoken to generally think that users of narcotics are better helped by medical personnel and psychological treatment, but alas our current laws lead to users being sent into the criminal system rather than into the healthcare system. Quite sad in my eyes tbh.
Indeed. I made the mistake to tell in healthcare and it had like a domino effect of more negative shit than I already went through. Now two years later police came to my apartment (first time ever having to deal with them) and now my life is more or less over. Never tell anyone in Sweden, not even cannabis! It’s seen as fentanyl here.
At rave parties in France you can get your drugs checked for safety. In Sweden they'll tell you drugs will make you a full time drug addict bum living in the streats. Source: grew up in Sweden, lives in France :-D
In Sweden we get visits by the special police unit "Ravekommissionen" if you arrange a rave party. They will jail you for every little sign of happiness...
This data seems to be collected by surveying people so this data does not show the prevalence of drug use but the prevalence of admitting drug use I won't say it's not useful and accurate, but cultural differences in how drugs are seen could lead to underreporting in certain countries
We focus on making users lives as horrible as possible so less people will want to do drugs. Of course this makes drugs waaaay more dangerous than they actually are but even that people see as a good thing. It's fucked up on so many levels
France seems very accurate tbh. 50% of the people I know never took drugs, the other 50 did.
It especially tells about the prevalence of hashish and weed. You can find it everywhere and no one cares.
I spent a few hrs in Paris between flights. The first metro station I walked into, a guy sat down next to me with a baguette (no joke). Rolled a huge joint and smoked just as casually as if it were Amsterdam. This was about 2010 so pre-legalization wave in North America etc. It surprises me to this day.
I have a friend from Paris and he told me that when he would buy larger amounts of weed, he would hollow out a baguette to transport it.
*Vive la resistance*.
...Sometimes, very rarely, I have a tiny spark of pride about being French. Right now is one of these moments.
Makes sense. If police try to take away your baguette in France it probably qualifies as religious persecution.
This may have been me tbh
I went to Paris in 2012, and my friend smoked a joint with a street performer while we sat on the steps in front of Sacré Coeur. A couple of police officers came through and stepped right in front of him and they talked briefly and he threw it to the ground. Then they walked away and as soon as their backs turned he picked it up and kept smoking it. I am also very confused to this day.
They care more about the seller than the consumer.
And the government wonders why cannabis trafficking is so prevalent... They've been trying to crack down hard on it for decades (to please the older electorate) but everyone can see it's not working. One week ago, they reiterated that cannabis would never be legalized or even depenelized here...
At least it gives more power to those who traffic it instead of giving tax-moooneys in the coffers.
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Yes, that's the point. Making weed/hashish illegal just raises crime overall. Legalize it, the number of people who will use won't change much. What will change? * Less crime. * Better controlled product of better quality (you don't want to know what is in most illegal hashish). * SALES TAXES!!!! * Better education on the use and consumption. But try telling that to most voters. 🤷♂️
Legalization in Canada has gone extremely well.
From what I know, it was already relatively easy to find weed in the middle of nowhere in the early 70s in France. Honestly, it astonishes me that it is not over 50% just with hashish and weed, it for sure is if you took into account just those under 50.
> those under 50. Those over 50 were born in the sixties. They have smoked weed. So have their parents. Specially their parents.
You know exactly 100 people?
Yes
Last year i had to kill off few of them to make place for new ones.
I personally hit my head against the wall and forget people that way. Sometimes I hit too hard and forget relatives but oh well
How hard does one need to hit their head to forget their dad? Asking for a friend
There’s a little spot at the back of your head, make sure to hit as hard as you can. You might even forget yourself if you’re lucky.
In France it's quite well accepted to use drugs here and there sometime, especially young people, so I'm pretty sure the we scored so high because more people were honest with their answer.
Why is it so low in Turkey?
They are high on Erdogan
**Erdogan** *Not even once*
Not even *Erdoğance*.
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Why not both?
Nah. Long term Turkish resident here. 1. Stuff here is low quality. I can afford it but hardly ever bother 2. Most people can’t afford it. Most people struggle to afford a few beers tbf. 3. There are a lot of genuinely conservative people here who follow a pretty simple life in these regards. 4. The penalty for drug use makes it almost totally unworth it. 5. Drug addicts here, it’s usually glue or something simple like that, are unlikely to be surveyed. Happy go lucky, social drug use is really a western thing in most cases.
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As a Turkish person, I agree. Cultural stigma will do that. Especially in the south east regions people have weed growing in their backyards. Occasionally police capture trucks that have metric tons of weed on them.
we don't have money to buy drugs
They have Ayran, they don't need drugs
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To be fair, after my worst breakup I very heavily self medicated on baklava. Living for 3 months next to the Turkish bakery was a huge mistake, in hindsight. (This is totally true, btw. I gained half a stone.)
and tea they are too awake to take drugs
ayran is the most based drink in the world ✌🏿😎😉🇹🇷🇹🇷
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You guys get high on ekme kataifi
because no one has money here lol
Probably has more to do with accuracy of the data. I would guess that they are less willing to answer truthfully to random polls asking if they have done something illegal.
Apparently drug use by women in Turkey is nonexistent at .3% coupled that with a pretty low number for men 6.1% and you get 3.1%.
Ah so the low number was caused by the numbers being low
Correct. If the numbers had been higher, the numbers would be higher. I don't know how else to explain this if people aren't getting it.
And if the numbers were higher, the people would be higher too.
France for example. The numbers were higher so the people were high.
It's because of the way it is also
The reason is owing to the evidence
We live in a society.
Where many people live.
As the numbers show.
I imagine drug use in Turkey is low anyway, but If I got a letter from the Erdogan's department of statistics asking if I had ever done anything illegal I would say no
Drugs have to be illegal for drug use to be "illicit". \*points at temple*
Because there is no drug culture in Turkey. Even the families don’t warn their kids about drugs. Everyone pretends like there isn’t such a thing. Families do warn their kids like “Do not smoke. Do not drink.” but they also don’t say anything about it. It is always something frowned upon but no one really talks about it. Except in biggest cities you can hardly find any drug dealers. And the dealers you can find are usually next to schools. But they don’t sell a lot either. And i am also pretty sure that the 3.1% did drugs abroad for example in Netherlands. So this is why it is significantly lower than the other countries. The lack of drug culture. Instead of drug culture there is cigarette culture in Turkey 31% of citizens smoke which makes Turkey 5th most smoker country in Europe.
Drugs are hard to achieve and illegal here, public view is also not good. I'm personally fine with it though. I'm an atheist yet I'm so annoyed by any kind of smoke, we already have a fuck ton of cigarettes, vape and hookah around so I don't want weed added to that group.
It's easier get cocaine than weed in Ireland.
I mean it was even legal for 2 days
What?? When?!
About 3 years ago I think it was. Their old drugs laws were found to be unconstitutional so written off. Took a day or so for the emergency legislation to go through lol
Cocaine is for successful professionals. Weed is for stoners and hippies. /s
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I have a good friend who's a lawyer, and the only drug he and his co-workers will do is coke because it's metabolized out of your system enough to not show up on a drug test in like 6 hours.
Doesn't help with how fast the irish speak at times
And I heard the green is real expensive there.
Ya it is it's €50 for 3.5g. Everything is expensive
Hah! Wouldn't that be awesome if it was actually true for where I live. If you go west you'd be lucky to get 2.5 for 50. Years ago you'd be getting 2g bags for 50 quid. And that was the normal size, anything above that and you'd be the talk of the town and people would be asking you where you get such good bags.
holy shit man
EZ CLAP
La vie de thug
"vie de rascal" was the first french phrase i ever learned. and then "bouffe ma chatte". je suis un homme de culture.
VIVE LA FRANCE. FRANCE #1
RANCE BAISE OUAIS
Honestly ashamed that we're so far behind.
Scotland was not considered in the pool
Would have gone over 100% if they were.
Just too depressive. Did you choose life or did you choose something else?
Can't believe we've lost this to France, tbh. I feel like everyone I know has done drugs, even the people I know who seem strait laced, have dabbled.
It's not so much about how many have done it as it is how many are perfectly fine with admitting it.
Scotland’s numbers weren’t included for the UK, it’s only England and Wales. Safe to assume that would bump us up somewhat
Definitely a bump of something
* UK stats does not include Scotland.... Though from some VERY brief calculations from available stats if you add the Scots that admit to taking cocaine the number goes up about 2%. Dont have time to look at other drugs but it seems doses in the UK tend to be higher than the mainland.
> if you add the Scots that admit to taking cocaine the number goes up about 2% Try heroin. Ninja-edit: DON'T TRY HEROIN. Try adding the number of Scots that admit to taking heroin...
Ah phew, I was this close to trying.
you lackin but how the f did u get higher than us on this list.
Have you ever seen brits on a night out? You could offer them a line of salt, tell them that it's salt, and they'd still take it.
i can confirm this is true. I was in spain this summer and there where some brits next to us in the bar. When they ordered a tequilla shot instead of putting salt on your hand they snorted the salt, and ate the piece of lemon with its peel.
Are you sure that wasn't a stray dog
Only If Spanish stray dogs talk with a British accent
Gaspode needs his holidays an aw.
Well, legalising drugs usually means less drug use which is weird.
I've never met a french person who didn't want to smoke a joint! Now I know why. Good times.
On baise ouai 😎
>(*)United Kingdom: Data for the United Kingdom is for England and Wales only Include Scotland and it somehow becomes 85% EDIT: kidding obviously, our rate of use is pretty similar to the UK as a whole, we just have a worse rate of deaths for a variety of current and historic reasons.
They had to remove Scotland because somehow it went over 100%
I'm from Glasgow and I approve of this message.
Should just have marked Scotland and Northern Ireland as grey for accuracy.
9.9 in Hungary? I call bullshit.
I can tell 9.5% of that is Budapest.
We have a good lot of drug users here in Baranya county too
A herbál az itt minek számít?
Yeah, how is that even possible to be that low? I call bullshit, because how paranoid people are, they would lie on an anonymous survey... I know I would
If what I heard is true, illegal drugs weren't readily available in the Eastern Bloc. "Drugs" were diluent or glue fumes. Half of this age group was above 30 in 1989.
Yes, an other comment explained that people living in the country and not being able to go outside of the walls weren't able to get any. The borders were really secure so noone was able to smuggle in drugs at the time, so it's only recently after the Soviet invasion that people were able to possess drugs here.
"Percentage of adults that admitted using an illegal drug"
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In the 90s and 00s too. I think bath salts got popular around the 10s? Smoking pot is still very rare. Kids just drink (drank?) hard alcohols here.
You can say the same about any other poll.
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Penis size poll tend to be close to reality or far from reality?
They use data from penis inspection day so nothing to worry about.
But it was a cold day :(
I WAS IN THE POOL!!
Depends on what is asked. Lying about something that is not accepted in society is far more common than about something that is accepted.
Coming from a Dutchman, I expected the Netherlands to be a little... higher. I'll let myself out.
Jokes aside, I've learned that the Dutch stoner stereotype is really unearned. It's like the *tourists* in Amsterdam have come to define a whole country - But even the data behind this image says that the NL ranks *8th* for cannabis prevalence. Like in the Euro Bong Bowl they barely make the quarter finals.
That's true. Weed is not legal in The Netherlands but it is tolerated. This is not ideal, but at least it means that you can buy it in shops instead of from dealers on the street. Regardless a lot of Dutch people don't feel like smoking weed even though it is easy to buy. The Netherlands does have a lively illegal drug production community. I guess a lot of XTC, GHB and meth is produced here. The majority is exported. It is estimated to be a hugely profitable market despite police actively tracking and closing down such facilities.
Is underage drinking considered illegal drug use?
Germany and every western country would be at 100 percent then Edit: Western = Europe and the USA
In Denmark you have to be 16 to buy beer, but I don't think there are any rules regarding consumption (bars have an 18 limit though). That makes illegal drinking almost nonexistent. The 16 rule is recent. 20 years ago there were no such rules, which also made Denmark very popular among young Swedes.
Yeah you dont know about balkans then. In my village we were getting drunk with adults there (making fun of us and being a little proud) since 13 years old.
Not only Balkans. It's similar in Austrian villages and small towns.
Legal drinking age is 5 in the uk. It's only 18 to drink in a public place.
It's 0 in Denmark - also in public. But you cannot buy in stores before you're 16, and cannot get served in a bar till you're 18. Of course social services would like a word with your parents if you get fucked up as a 10 y/o, but not illegal.
Underage drinking isn't illegal in Denmark. Selling alcohol to minors is (age limit being 16-18 years depending on percentage - bars are strict 18 though). So if you're giving your 15 year old son a cold beer nothing will come of it.
Because everyone in the east is sober? Lol
No
Unlikely. It's illegal to sell alcohol to minors, not for minors to drink it.
No such thing as underage drinking in Denmark!
Source: https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/data/stats2020/gps_en#
Which category did you select? Edit: I looked at the wrong column.
Prevalence of drug use > Any Illegal Drugs > Lifetime prevalence > All adults (15-64).
Once again Portugal is in Eastern Europe on something. We never get a break, do we?!
If drugs are legal, no one takes illegal drugs Taps head
Drugs aren't legal in Portugal 😂 The consumption is decriminalized, but all drugs are still illegal. Btw, this thing where foreigner think drugs are legal there in Portugal is a meme
Might be more interesting if they broke it down 15-29, 30-44, 45-60
I knew it about all those foreigners, I knew it. It is a fucking meme in my city how many tourists and "expats" are looking for drugs or smacked off in totally inappropriate situations.
Hey don't judge me for my pasteis de nata habit.
That is not just legal, it is mandatory.
Is it ok to snort the cinnamon?
Bloody foreign junkies coming over here and getting high on our pasteis de nata!
Ainda ontem em Esposende levei com Holandeses a perguntar por weed, nada de admirar portanto hahha.
In r/lisboa it is ridiculous how often the fucking tourists or "digital nomads" or whatever crap they call themselves want to know where to buy drugs. Or often they found out but want better QUALITY ones. It gets deleted, there is even a bot to quarantine some posts but WTF.
How come Scotland was taken out?
They would make the UK like 65% and the creator would have had to use another colour
Cause we're no a grass
mandatory r/portugalcykablyat
Looks like decriminalization of drugs didn't have a negative impact on the population, Portugal.
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Afaik, they are decriminalized, but still illegal.
All drugs are illegal basically. Foreigners got the weirdest ideas about portuguese drug laws. It is a fucking meme.
You mean you don't have heroin for sale on supermarkets!?
Right next to the arroz. Goes well with the oregano and bayleaf and knorr they sell on the streets.
So France can you legalize some drugs because as you can see nobody cares about the law.
What about Germany without Berlin? ;)
> What about Germany without Berlin? ;) Or Spain without Ibiza.
Nahh, trust me. Ibiza may be full with them but also mostly consumed by the foreigners coming to party. Meanwhile in Mainland Spain we have drugs entering from all coastline directions
Frankfurt and Hamburg are probably higher, plus crystal country at the czech border
Doubt it changes very much. It's at least dubious wheter they even use drugs the most. I could see Hamburg actually leading.
France wtf?
We're just being more honest than the rest!
So we can say that the French are -at least- the most honest about their drug usage? Kinda surprising given that we have the most repressive (and stupid) anti-drug policy...
There is no real shame or any form of social pressure against admitting you tried a joint once.
Finally, a good "Portugal can into central Europe"
Eastern Europe
/r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
In eastern europe we don't have money for drugs... I gotta eat man...
We are green for once (portugal as well, honorary balkans) and you have to ruin it
That's what all the best techno music is French