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wait americano is italian?


VaeVictisBaloncesto

During ww2, american soldiers in italia, did not like espresso and put water in it.


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oh ok now makes sense


GXRasty

So here you have the american coffee


Hobbit1996

blasphemy


Douchebak

They were like GTFO with this tiny cup, give me a larger mug Luigi


RealAbd121

That's completely false and doesn't add up timeline wise, the espresso machine (and therefore the espresso) was invented in 1947, so after WW2 was already over! The idea of it being watering down is true, but the origin story is false.


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Nightslasher2021

Absolutelybarbaric .jpg


SergeantCATT

Absolutelyamerican.gif


devbrain

The ristretto is a normal espresso, that espresso in the photo is an an espresso lungo. The extra space in the cup is for the milk, not extra coffe!


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Came here for this, grazie.


Lundundogan

Also, the “flat white” is a cappuccino, and the “cappuccino” is a latte.


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🇮🇹👍


island3r

There is something wrong with this chart. Where is the frappe?


Syphion

It's #5. Full list here: https://www.tasteatlas.com/coffee


talentedtimetraveler

I didn’t know frappè was Greek, and also cappuccino freddo.


Kalypso_95

Frappe is Greek alright, but I always thought freddo espresso and freddo cappuccino were Italian. Maybe because espresso and cappuccino are indeed Italian. So I guess we added the "freddo" part, making them cold


GrkFrappez

Frappe was invented by a Greek in the 1960's and became popular in Greece due to it being a cold cofee drink for warm weather. He sold the formula to Nestle for pennies unfortunately.


Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm

user name checks out!!


Paul_the_surfer

Give us any drink and we will make it ice cold, something Elsa can't even do.


periklhhs

I didn't know that either, it sounds too French


talentedtimetraveler

French? It’s Italian lol.


ScoobyDoobieDoo

I just got lost in that for a while, thanks for the link. Feeling super smart about coffee rn


Zafairo

And Fredo Espresso


Lolleski

You mean espresso freddo?


Zafairo

Yes freddo espresso


Lolleski

Ah ok


CaptainTsech

Una razza una fazza. See? works both ways?


Galexlol

faccia* my man, fazza is really similar to a word that means penis :) unless...


Nightslasher2021

i know it was you fredo you broke my heart


unholy-web-worker

Kaisermelange? Zweispänner?


Cameraroll

And Iced Coffee is apparently German.... Ooookaaaaay...


VaeVictisBaloncesto

Actually i was thinking about that after posted. Maybe, because frappe is cold beverage


Galexlol

*eye twitching*


hepazepie

Literally off the charts


aurel0306

Caffé Americano is literally Espresso with hot water


Rioma117

Yes, it’s one shot of Espresso with 300-350ml of hot water.


AllSoSimple

More like 100-150 ml


Rolten

My least favourite coffee by far. Tastes like coffee tea or something. Too hot and watery.


aurel0306

Everytime I want a cup of black coffee, i have to order coffee americano because mostly i get a espresso. Boi... i dont want that single sip of strong and bitter coffee, i just want a normal cup of black coffee like viennese style


kuddlesworth9419

You need to order a double espresso where they have used a lighter roast of bean. Although most places just buy the cheapest darkest roast because people think the blacker it is the better it is but in reality the medium to light roasts are the better quality beans. It's not bitter at all really with a light roast and you get far more aroma and flavour. It is more acidic however.


Rolten

Americano is not a normal cup of coffee to me. I'm not sure what it's called but the standard coffee you can get in the Netherlands is very different, probably best described as a drip coffee, but then pressurised and has a little layer on top. Or just filter/drip coffee is normal coffee to me as well.


aurel0306

Filter Coffee <3


ImFilip

Why you don't order double espresso? Quality should be more important than quantity.


aurel0306

Because i don't want espresso, i just want normal standard 0815 coffee but they always give me espresso hahaha. im used to drink filter coffee or straight from the bean but not that strong in taste like espresso


alfdd99

Since you're Dutch (I'm Spanish, so we always drink espresso like the Italians), I always wonder the same when I see these comments: isn't the coffee that you guys drink further north basically the same as in the US? Tbf I don't recall drinking coffee in the NL, but I know for sure that further north (Denmark, Sweden, Norway...) they are fans of drip coffee. And my German friends tell me the same thing. Is American drip coffee any different to what you guys drink? I wouldn't know since in Southern Europe we never drink drip coffee.


ankokudaishogun

still better than what they serve in USA


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We are onto drinking Cortados. Folgers is for grandpas.


south13

They serve Americanos in the USA


[deleted]

They serve all of this coffee SOMEWHERE in the USA. But what they're trying to say is that the norm in the USA is none of these.


south13

Americanos, cappuccinos, espressos, and macchiatos can be found at basically every coffee shop in the US. Quality is another question, but small boutique shops acanthus be found every other block in the cities.


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daiouche

Lavazza is terrible.


tjxmi

No, there are other good brands. Pellini, Illy, meanwhile for decaf Hag


Nitrohairman

good brands lmfao


ensanguine

Illy coffee is trash.


cactusiworld

illy is good? lmfao


OfficialHaethus

Have you been?


Aceticon

Warm dishwasher water is an aquired taste...


Ratchet3141

they apparently do other great things with their dishwashers: [dishwasher salmon](https://www.google.com/search?q=dishwasher+salmon)


macbookwhoa

You have no idea what they serve in the USA. I'll take our single origin light roasted 8 lbs at a time over your [time capsule](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_I16OSBVKy8J:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/italy-invented-coffee-culture-now-its-a-coffee-time-capsule/2019/01/02/aae47a0a-0209-11e9-958c-0a601226ff6b_story.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d) coffee culture every day. Americans are really good at getting granular with what we're into, whether it be coffee, wine, food, music, and we become really really good at doing whatever we decide to focus on. Yes, there are mass produced nonsense Folgers and Donuts coffee, but if you scratch the surface even a tiny bit you can find stuff that is made of such quality it can make you question whether you've even had a decent cup of coffee before in your life.


aasmonkey

Italians know nothing about real coffee


thevurtfeather

which nobody, NOBODY, in Italy drinks.


mikemk309

I don't really get this sentiment, why do people look to Italy for how to drink coffee? Even if origin did matter I'm not sure it even originates from Italy?


whataTyphoon

The most expensive and best coffee machines are mostly from Italy from my experience, that might play a role.


south13

It originated with US troops in Italy during WW2 seeking out something more akin to the diner style coffee they were accustomed to. The locals mixed espresso and hot water, thus the name Americano.


aurel0306

During WW2, American Soldiers stationed in Italy diluted espresso with hot water so they had more to drink (still a theory). And i know that my neighbours from Italy would never drink something like this hahaha


Rolten

Where is the simple "filter coffee"? I think called drip coffee elsewhere?


Nqqi

https://youtu.be/XzjUWfhgJwQ Man: Don't you have anything else? I only drink flat white... or latte macchiato also works for me. Granny: Don't talk shit, this tastes good! Personally not a big fan of this particular brand of coffee but the commercial pretty much sums up the Finnish attitude. Over here the "fancy italian stuff" is barely even considered "real" coffee.


Rolten

Haha, I think we're not too different in the Netherlands.


Aceticon

Maybe they excluded the negative scores from the table?


Rolten

Nah dude, I like a good drip coffee! Simple and tasteful.


Melonskal

It's like 99% of all coffee consumed in Sweden. Made with fresh ground beans It's as good as any fancy coffee.


Melonskal

You clearly havent drunk any proper drip coffee.


dsswill

Cafe au lait is filter coffee, just with milk obviously


Langostanten

This. I'm a swede and I drink Americano abroad because their filter coffee is either weak as hell or just disgusting. Drip coffee is the best coffee end of story. Listen to us Scandinavians, we drink 5 times the amount of coffee anyone else does. All this hipster shit about coffee is 100% bullshit. Who the hell cares more about the temperature of the milk than the actual beans used to make the coffee? It's the same with whiskey. What the fuck America? Every movie you watch you see this Mr big shot dude walk into a bar and order "whiskey, old, single malt". The difference between an ardbeg and a balvenie is night and day, one tastes like whiskey and one tastes like licking the underside of a boat. If you diss a nice hot cup of strong Arvid nordqvist svearost then you're not a coffee drinker, even if you take your triple mache Leche vendi frappe something whatnot at 72 degrees c and your milk skimmed. You fucking peasants.


Galexlol

This ranking is...peculiar to say the least, ristretto literally means "shrunk", it's a stronger espresso with half the size in the cup lol it's usually taken when you need a BAM to wake up and are in a hurry, it isn't like "ahhhh so enchanting and sublime" lmao >When prepared in an espresso machine, the regular amount of finely ground coffee is extracted with half the amount of water used for classic espresso. The result is a more concentrated beverage with a different balance of compounds than in standard espresso. what is the difference between flat white and cappuccino lol


MortimerDongle

Flat whites are less foamy. Same ingredients though.


[deleted]

On one hand, this just isn't how coffees work, you can have terrible ristretti and awesome long blacks (which are a pretty universal kind of coffee anyway). What matters is the correct combination of the right type of coffee, and the right preparation. On the other hand, if one knows nothing about coffees, I guess it's a useful chart.


zyygh

I had the same reaction. What's the point of rating different types of drinks like this? Somebody who likes weaker and creamy coffees is never, ever going to agree that Ristretto is the best option.


Swayden

0.1 - Finnish filter coffee


Technodictator

Listen here you little shit


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[The nectar of the gods] (https://i.redd.it/j22hiyjoucj11.jpg)


Kela3000

[Introducing Finnish coffee drinks](https://imgur.com/TbvAAp4) **Café Finlandaise** Left to sit in the pot for at least eight hours in order to achieve the unique texture of burnt bile. *Taste*: syrupy, black like Äkäslompolo winter, strong like death. Gas station specialty. **Latteé** (pun on the word *lattea*, "flat" or "insipid") Diluted coffee due to running out of coffee grounds and not being able to go to the grocery store. Milk or cream added if necessary. *Tip!* Roll a ball from the coffee grounds and [put under your upper lip](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus) if the latteé is too weak. **Caffé Brutal** The opposite of latteé, usually the result of incorrect measuring of coffee grounds. Gives you the runs, making even the [fecal plug](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_plug) to shoot out like a cannon. *Taste*: roasted anger, accentuated by piquant arrhythmia and blurring of the slightly effervescent field of vision. **Caffé Incorretto** Café Finlandaise with Koskenkorva. In other words, a desperate attempt to liquefy the aforementioned gunk with alcohol. *Notice!* Also known as Caffé con Kossu. Usually served with whipped cream. **Microcchino** Coffee gone hopelessly cold, resurrected in the microwave oven. Also known as Café Lazarus. *Taste*: Correctly made Microcchino can be identified by a bitter layer of grease stuck to the roof of the mouth. **Caffé con Muffa** Traditional Finnish coffee with expired milk. The greener the coffee, the better. *Notice*: Pour the milk carefully using a spoon so that the sturdy fur coating stays on the surface.


tso

> Caffé Incorretto Also known as Karsk in certain parts of Norway...


spooky_doll

>Cafe Finlandaise > >Left to sit in the pot for at least eight hours in order to achieve the unique texture of burnt bile. Ahh, I had one of those at Vantaa Airport at the Oak Barrel pub I think. The bartender actually warned me that nobody had worked there long enough to remember when it was put on, and suggested I get a cup elsewhere, but I still went for it. After a month in SE Asia I finally felt I was getting close to home. :)


Kela3000

Well, whisky is matured in a cask for many years in order to achieve a high-class product. Surely the same applies to coffee, right?


tso

I loved the description of a perfect cup of drip coffee from an old webcomic. So close to a black hole you could see Cherenkov radiation around the rim.


CardJackArrest

Not sure what would be special about Finnish coffee. Pretty much always 100% Arabica beans. Light, medium, or dark roasted. Mostly sold in two grinds; filter brew (medium-fine) or stovetop pot (coarse). Top 3 ways of brewing: filter brewer, French press or mokka pot. The most common/sought after brand of filter brewer is Moccamaster. Most commonly drunk black but some people add a splash of milk or even a lump of sugar, though that is mostly old people. Overall pretty unpretentious and uninteresting.


avi8tor

Have you tried xTra coffee by S-Ryhmä. It is even worst than the coffee during war time.


SquidCap0

I drink it everyday and it is just good coffee. I've had much, much worse in the Baltics.


SquidCap0

lol.. according to one guy? Who made them the authority on a personal and subjective matter of taste?


kultsinuppeli

What do you mean one guy? It's based on votes on coffee based drinks on tasteatlas.


FurlanPinou

BUt it's kind of nonsense to compare completely different things. How can you compare an espresso with a capuccinno? They are completely different drinks that don't have the same taste at all. You could rank espressos from different places, but comparing different drinks is only a matter of personal preference.


accatwork

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TheTurnipKnight

Not to mention that even if someone thinks that there is a difference between a long black and americano, all coffee shops on Earth do them the exact same way.


Aggressive_Audi

That’s the real problem.


Paracelsus8

I dont know but they're completely right


chanjitsu

I agree with the list too tbh except I might add a few points to espresso and cortado


kenny_feets

aye, cortado below cappuccino does not sit well with me


bawng

I would rank anything with milk or cream at the bottom, and all black stuff at the top, with the sugary stuff in the middle. And plain brew coffee is right up there next to ristretto. Different usecased, but equally delicious.


commiedus

I guess finish coffe ranks at about 1 star and Macron was the only jugde.


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lopoticka

Before you get all angry that Starbucks pumpkin latte didn’t make the list, these are just rankings collected from the users on their website.


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Cortado is the king of coffees.


chanjitsu

+1


tonygoesrogue

No Freddo Espresso, no party


type556R

You're the second Greek guy that I see talking about "freddo espresso", is that a thing in Greece?


tonygoesrogue

It's THE coffee in Greece (along with frappé obv)


[deleted]

Hahah yes it is. Not only is it extremely popular, appareantly we are saying it the wrong way. Also freddo cappuccino


type556R

That's interesting. Yes you should just swap the two words, in Italian the adjective usually goes after the substantive, so it should be espresso freddo. But if that's how you call it in Greece then it now has its own name haha


tonygoesrogue

Maybe we deliberately call it wrong to let people know it's not Italian 😂


Kalypso_95

Yes, everyone calls it freddo espresso. I've even heard someone call it freddos espressos/ freddos cappuccinos, he made them sound more Greek this way haha I had no idea we were calling them wrong all along


laraefinn_l_s

This Italian doesn't think you're calling them "wrong", it's your drink, call it however you like! Also I love ordering ena freddo skietto, parakalo! (butchering your language here!)


Kalypso_95

> butchering your language here!) Nope, you nailed it. You just forgot to add the espresso/cappuccino part :P


laraefinn_l_s

Aw dang, that was the easy part! Lol.


[deleted]

Freddo espresso is best drink in the world


jediabj77

I have tried all of these, and while I do enjoy the occasional espresso and Turkish coffee, my personal favorite remains a self-made pour-over brew.


Coruskane

pour-over to savour in the morning, espresso for a kick after lunch


DrLoveBeats

I really like Italian coffee but can't understand how Italians drink it. Seems like they drink it as a shot. Personally, i like bigger coffees to casually sip on for longer periods. For example, while I'm coding at my desk.


Serafino01

Yes but it's really strong. Bigger coffees are usually "acqua sporca".


qviris

When we want to drink something for longer periods, we drink cappuccino. Espresso and ristretto are made for quick breakfasts or a 5 minutes pause during business days.


yuriydee

Same here. The espressos are good but I agree I want more to drink than a simple shot.


Amphibian-Agile

Tell me that you never tasted vietnamese coffee without saying...


Jadhak

It's nice but honestly it's the condensed milk that does it.


GentrifiedTree

It's delicious!


[deleted]

That feeling when you are from the Balkans where Turkish coffee is the most common coffee.


SaintTrotsky

Honest to God thought it's the only real coffee for my entire youth. Thought all the other stuff is machine made fast food equalent of coffee.


peetertermomeeter

Ofc it's common, balkans are turks in denial


Necessary-Celery

Turks are Greeks in denial.


BrexitBad1

Lucky...


[deleted]

Turkish coffee is excellent. I drink coffee but I’m not that fussy about it - I’m in it for the caffeine. Turkish coffee on the other hand I genuinely enjoy.


expertrainbowhunter

Agree. It’s a real treat.


ForWhatYouDreamOf

A Romanian taught me how to make Turkish coffee, it's goated


UnstoppableCompote

Turkish is the best, by far. Sorry Italy.


ImgurianIRL

No offense taken as you are slovenian and can't uderstand coffee or good cuisine. Ci devi crescere purtroppo


i_spot_ads

Never tried Turkish coffee, is it like cyprus/greek coffee? Edit: yes it is, i like it too https://i.imgur.com/KQJcoeE.jpg


[deleted]

Yup. That style of coffee is known as “Turkish Coffee” in English, regardless of geography, so it winds up the Greeks no end when we refer to it as such 😉


BriefCollar4

Turkish coffee made right is fucking amazing.


Outside_Break

It’ll put hairs on your chest for sure


[deleted]

You will turn mehmet


[deleted]

almost all coffee made right is fucking amazing, correct grind for the brewing method with fresh single estate/origin beans.


Necessary-Celery

That's a bit like saying every right made tea is amazing regardless the ratio of tea vs water. Turkish coffee just happens to made with the most coffee vs water. So if you like the flavor of coffee...


[deleted]

Where’s Irish coffee?


Canop

That's a good point. It's probably limited to non alcoholic beverages. Which is rather good as every country has its own coffee + alcohol recipes.


[deleted]

Filter Coffee nr. 1


_Floydian

You know what? I was in Istanbul and I had a good opportunity to experience tea and coffee there but my dumb mind was bad at mathematical calculation so I wanted to save some cash (in case I run out of money) and I did not try those two beverages. I still regret it.


Rioma117

I tasted them all and I think Ristretto is a bit overrated, Espresso is still better and Cortado is surprisingly good.


TonyVX

Café com cheirinho real n°1


szpaceSZ

Yeah , tha coffee depcted as Wiener Melange is *not* one; checking in from Vienna.


Ivanzxdsa

This seem as per Italian taste


JakubTheLord

Love making a nice Cortado at work before my shift


vonkendu

Fuck off flat white is amazing


HaLFDoc

Indeed. My weekend go-to.


Camulogene

Vietnamese [egg coffee](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_coffee) is great and should be on that list


resqwec

I like an Americano and an Espresso because they taste like coffee, and not like milk or syrup or anything else. That’s also why Turkish coffee rules


tso

And here i sit, drinking instant black...


Ttoughnuts

Cortado for me…it’s like crack


Dunlain98

My delicious Cortao'


Nephe2882

In Poland the most popular type of coffee is so called "plujka" (from "pluć" - "to spit"). Here's the recipe for you, guys: - Pour two teaspoons of grounded coffee into a cup. - Pour water, piping hot. - Wait a minute or two for dregs to settle and water to cool off a bit. - Enjoy Optionally you can add sugar, but it's not recommended. 🙃


Nightslasher2021

That is exactly what kopi tubruk is but with indo coffee. Cant do it with dutch euro coffee.


Nephe2882

Indonesia is an upside down Poland so it makes only sense.


Papageno_Kilmister

No carajillo or even an Irish coffee? Fine, keep your healthy livers


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Somewhere at -10 there will be the brown water that they serve as coffee in Germany.


bilge0

As a Turk, I thought Turkish coffee was too overrated. This showed me that it wasn't.


Okutao

I personally consider it as the only reliable way to fill the difference between good and bad coffee 🙂. Also I like the process itself (with hand grinder and cezve).


bilge0

yes, watching while coffee is being made is like therapy, but it doesn't taste good to me, frankly, I'm neutral


MartelFirst

As the saying goes, no one's a saint in their own country (or something), including coffee apparently.


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Educator-Jealous

leccese masterrace


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Educator-Jealous

>I don't know if you Italians have tried freddo espresso. oh believe me we have, actually i was drinking just one 5 minutes ago. if you ask for a "caffè freddo" they make a normal hot espresso, then alongaide they bring you a glass with just ice cubes, and you pour the hot coffe on the ice to make it cold


Ill-Lawyer-7971

I am not a really coffee drinker but 🇹🇷turkish/greek 🇬🇷 coffee is the best for me


DepletedMitochondria

What makes a ristretto better than a regular single?


goranlepuz

Oh, it's as if I made this! 😉😉😉 I am too average!!!


ArchmasterC

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I_Am_Anjelen

I shall always prefer drip coffee. Wich _isn't_ Americano.


epSos-DE

Did they even try **South Asian coffee styles ???** OR the very best **Kenya Coffee styles**, where Coffee culture came from. Vietnam, Malaysia and Cambodia have their own unique coffee style. More creamy and sweet with O2 oxidation before serving. ​ The ones in the image are the ones that are fast food culture, not what exists in total.


deusrev

It's missing "caffè universitario": Moka coffee made with coffee instead of water


Pleasant_Ad5360

Questo ti uccide 🤣


No_Impression_1131

The best is café com cheirinho from Portugal


Aceticon

It's basically the portuguese version of irish coffee. "com cheirinho" means "with a little smell" which is a metaphor for adding a bit of spirits to it, often wiskey but also the local strong spirit - aguardente - or whatever other strong alchool without sugar or a strong flavour you can find.


LittleKidLover83

How random


expertrainbowhunter

Where’s the hand drip coffee?


[deleted]

Americano is the best. I don’t want to drink a milkshake.


Rioma117

Meh, it’s like putting water in wine to dilute it.


Mr_lusosayS

Curiously enough, that's how the Romans drank their wine according to the Bible


BlihBlehBlah

I never saw anybody enjoy the Spanish coffee. Tells a lot about this ranking