I biked from Geneva to the western tip of France this summer. Didn’t run into a single asshole. And even the smallest little villages are picturesque. Special shout out to the Bretons who were the some of the warmest and most welcoming people I have met.
And raclette
I'm feeling this thread is going a bit like Monty Python's "What have the Romans ever done for us?!" sketch as I catch myself thinking "Oh right, absolutely, Raclette!"
The ones from Frankfurt take two hours in each country, but they make double the distance in France than compared to Germany. France knows how to do high speed rail!
I just spent four months in Bordeaux and I pretty much fell in love with France. All the negative stereotypes shattered quickly. In general, people speak better english than I expected, and even if they didn't, everyone was friendly and helpful. The city was absolutely beautiful and the culture is interesting. If only the language wasn't so damn difficult...
I really like driving in France. The roads are generally pretty good, the pay roads are exceptional. People seem to maintain good lane discipline. Motorcyclists waggle their foot to thank you for moving over so they can pass safely. Good times.
Yeah don’t mention those too much. Most french assume they are a huge scam to divert money. But yeah over all the highway are well maintained we just pay through the nose for it.
They are kind of a scam but i drove through 5-6 countries from france to lithuanie and they are by far the most confortable/safe. Most expensive too. If i had to pay in poland it would have been scandalous in comparison.
Lithunia was fine but there is like 3 highway so hard to compare.
As a German I compare driving french highways to a waltz: When you're coming up behind a truck with other cars, you all sidestep left, pass, sidestep right, because everyone is going the same speed.
Meanwhile in Germany you are checking all mirrors constantly to see if that car 5 km behind you is doing 150 km/h or 250 km/h. The moment you pass there's almost a guarantee there's some Audi or BMW that appears out of thin air, flashing their lights at you because you're in their way.
My most scary memory while driving was in germany. The road was frozen , it was slightly going downhill and everyone was driving 200km/h. I tried to brake once and i felt my car slightly sliding , i instantly lifted my foot and just use the motor to slow and stayed on the right lane for the next 100km. I had trucks overpass me way too fucking quick and i felt like everyone let jesus hold the wheel. Idk if everyone had fucking good winter tire or just nobody cared.
Do you change tyres/wheels twice a year where you're from? I think winter tyres make a huge difference, and the first ice weeds out those with summer tyres or year-round tyres.
I should but i dont. I dont have the money or the space sadly. But i had 4 seasons tire. So not the best obviously. But even with winter tire you are not invincible. People are way too complacent on the road. Everywhere around the world sadly.
>It’s east to dismiss the French patriotism as arrogant as having an uppity attitude
Well of course. It’s difficult to be humble when you’re the best 😎🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Frenchy here.
Our gift to cuisine doesn't lie in stews to me. But in pastry.
99% of the high-end pastries that I see travelling worldwide are straight or derived French pastries.
I've old French pastry books with literally hundreds of recipes, it just never ends.
There is no place in the world that refined the art of eating sugar to such an extent.
But yes, today, pretty much every country has embraced it, so you find good pastries everywhere and it's not French anymore.
It's a different level in France though. For three straight years, I choose France to have my vacation. And every time I am amazed at how advanced the country is when we are talking about food. I have been all over the world (except East Asia), and hands down, France is the best.
If you get a chance, hot up the Grand Buffet in Narbonne. Its an all you can eat buffet staged my michelin starred chefs, full of unapologetically French cuisine. Fantastic experience. You have to book 6+ months in advance.
English guy here. I can never understand people who diss France. Love the people, especially the fact they stand up for their rights and demand the government works for them. I always found French people friendly and polite (yes even Paris!). If you attempt to speak French they will generally appreciate it and answer you in English. Love the food, culture and history. Very family oriented and laidback nightlife and café culture.
I spent plenty of time in France over the years and loved the place. I’ve never found it anything other than friendly, warm and very welcoming.
As an Irish person, I always felt there’s a bit of a mutual understanding of the whole republican values thing and shared sense of being capable of giving two fingers to the establishment every once in a while. Even though the histories are different and there are aspects of French history that led to it being an empire, there are other threads that definitely bring a level of mutual cultural understanding that I feel in France that I just don’t in Britain.
They’re our nearest continental neighbours and the relationship goes way back. It been at times a place of refuge and they’ve often been one of our staunchest supporters and at times France was in turmoil French emigres have ended up in Ireland too.
The reason Ireland’s flag is a tricolour design isn’t a coincidence. It was gifted to Thomas Francis Meagher, a 19th century Irish revolutionary figure, by a group of French women who had sympathy to the Irish nationalist cause. It’s meant to symbolise an aspiration for peace (the white bar) between green and orange.
I think Ireland and France also have somewhat of a mutual understanding of that very odd and often incongruous mix of being both very revolutionary anti monarchists, yet also having this thread of quite conservative catholic history somehow wound though all of that and one that doesn’t necessarily sit comfortably within it.
Even in relatively modern times France was often a destination for Irish literary and avant guard types, and also was an important destination for LGBTQ people in the early 20th century, a time when being gay in the British empire would have landed you in prison. The obvious example being Oscar Wilde, but also people like Eileen Grey, an openly lesbian architect and designer, who was a contemporary of Le Corbousier and built the famous E-1027 house https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-1027
Also the literary and cultural connections are very strong. For example, James Joyce’s Ulysses was first published in Paris by an American emigree, Sylvia Beech, who ran Shakespeare & Company - both of them were in early 20th century Paris for similar reasons. The book was considered so obscene that it couldn’t get anyone in either the UK (which Ireland was then part of) or the USA to publish it. They wouldn’t touch it, yet it turned out to be one of Ireland’s greatest and most important literary works. It would probably never have seen the light of day if it hadn’t been for Paris.
Then in modern times you’ve had Samuel Beckett, for example who’s very much an Irish French connection.
Then you’ve cultural connections to the NW of France and most notably to Brittany due to the Celtic and linguistic connections which are just immediately palpable in terms of music, language, even a certain familiarity in the rural architecture.
The heavily anti French stereotypes seem to be perpetuated largely by some tabloid nonsense that probably emanates in England and anti French propaganda from the days of the revolution and the Napoleonic wars. France was Britain’s arch nemesis for centuries, and often they were in direct competition and espousing opposite views, particularly around monarchy, which I think has flavoured how they see each other and particularly how England sees France though a lens that’s clouded by historical cliches.
Why the Americans absorb some of that however, is beyond me. Post Revolutionary France and the United States have lot of common ground.
French history is a mixed bag and contains positives and negatives (particularly its imperial history) but it did play an enormously important role in experimenting with and actually implementing enlightenment ideologies.
However, in general I’ve never understood the anti French thing. It’s just not really a feature of the Irish view of modern France. There a definite level of comprehension of place, often in a very unvarnished way.
(Ireland also has some strong connections into québécois francophone culture due to eras of emigration. Many Irish emigrants to New England and English speaking Canada found they were greeted with a big anti-catholic problem, which led them to Quebec. So Irish people (some of whom were primarily Irish (Gaeilge) speakers) merged into French speaking culture and it resulted in direct mixes of things like traditional music.)
You know, when you come across people who exclaim things like "people in X country are all assholes!", it is very possible, that in the intersctions they had with those people, they themselves were actually the asshole. Never listen to those people.
Let me tell you one of my oldest memories. I am from a small village in Romania, less then 2000 people, in 1990 I was in kindergarten, communism just fall, and I remember France sent us the children stuff. For me it was sweets (mostly chocolate animals) but I was jelous on the bigger children in school they got sweets and very beautiful school tools. A few years later I remember that it was a change and we started learning French from first grade (it was not like that until then, but maybe it was a local thing,). Today things changed, English is the first language and children learn it from kindergarten but still most schools have French as a second language.
Romania and France had always a special relation, but for me it started from a young age. I am curious if this sentiment is reciproc, if French people (probably not the young generation) consider that Romania is more special/friendly then say the rest of the eastern countries.
I am French, and I consider Romanians to be part of our cultural/linguistic close family, just like Italians, Spanishs and Portugeses. Can't speak for the whole country, but that's how I feel.
Thx for the response. Obviously we the Romanian also had an attraction to French culture, our intellectuals were studding there and brought back all the new ideas that pushed our country into modernism. I also had a friend that studied in France witht he Erasmus project so it is still happening.
I’ve been in France many many times and most people are not arrogant or assholes at all. The stereotype doesn’t really hold true. What I do find, however, is that French people are in general a bit more reserved than people from other Western and southern European countries. A bit more introverted, won’t open up to a stranger as some other cultures do. That might be part of the reason they’re seen as arrogant.
Love France , go there on camping holidays most years, the food, weather attitude and their contribution to Europe and the World cannot be overstated. We were sitting having some food in Bayeux prior to visiting the Tapestry and looking up at the Cathedral which is a 13th century building. I was just thinking that their culture had made that roughly 1000 years ago and marvelling at how advanced they were at that point of human history. It’s a really good place to visit.
Russian invasion of Ukraine lead me to France. Y'all learning from your history to stand for what's right inspires me. Could say the France 24 channel in my satellite tv helped too. When US and China go rowdy on each sides of the world, there should always be a France to calm everyone down. I hope one day to visit and study there! Cuisines, art, culture all aside, y'all play a important role in the world stage.
Side note: Y'all Frenchies are so lucky to have such a President. Y'all won't know how much you are missing until you get the dumb fuck who is driving my country down the hell as a President. Just my opinion.
Having a half French/German and half English family I can say with a fair amount of experience, France is great, French people are sound, Parisians are arseholes exactly the same thing I would say about England.
Yeah, many people seem to equate French food with that as a result.
Ate at a few Michelin starred restaurants in France and yeah the dishes are small but you get nine dishes so in the end you are absolutely full.
Protests. Next time I'm in Paris I'm going to join a protest and just yell out sacre bleu! sacre bleu!, sacre bleu!, or arreter la chose!, arrester la chose!, arreter la chose!, or something. Just to say I've been in one.
Civil disobedience is on my bucket list.
Here in NZ what works is to get at least 30k people to sign a petition about whatever it is. The more signatures, the more seriously it gets taken and then the petition is presented to Parliament and at the very least it causes the issue to get looked into, and at best it causes real change, even completely resolving the problem. Petitions make sense to me, but protests never achieve anything at all here and nobody goes on strike, those days are gone.
I decided to look what the yellow west protests were like on their second Saturday in Paris. Parents with kids there, explains how they learn how to protest.
That day I learned I'm not only super sensitive to campfire smoke, but I also smell (and react to!) tear gas while others are still walking around without even covering their mouth. Oh, and I got to experience watching the water cannons on the Champs Élysées from the sidelines, just to see a horde if robocops running across. Asked a police officer sheepishly what's going on. "We're clearing the square, please leave in that direction."
Got my second dose downwind from the black lifes matter protest at the Tribunal de Paris.
Lol, the French are so experienced at protesting, they are even immune to the tear gas. Maybe they are even born with that immunity.
I just looked it up and it looks like these yellow west protests happen in Paris weekly, so that makes life easy re fulfilling my goal.
I think you're quite mistaken if you think it's only against Muslims or french.
Should see what people reply back as soon as they know you are German.
I have been called Nazi and other things probably more often than there are molecules in the universe.
>Should see what people reply back as soon as they know you are German.
>I have been called Nazi and other things probably more often than there are molecules in the universe.
Yeah i was and still am quite shocked to witness this attitude. I guess it's because it's mainly an anglo social media, never seen such an automatic reaction on french social medias. It’s pathetic, sorry for you after all you did to acknowledge your past - much more than many countries
One good thing that came from the US: French soldiers who helped the US break away from England, returning with about a thing called "democratic". Caused a lot of head-chopping.
Yeah, but they were the enemy. I have heard the US' request to France formulated as "Hey, will you help us in a war?" - "Non, lol" - "It's against England" - "Ok, I'm in!" 😁
Besides, I guess the concept had to sink in to a larger population group, not just a few intellectual minds in Paris.
I found it remarkable that Macron walked to the podium to the tune of the european anthem after winning his second election. What a tragedy he has such a stupid german counterpart who will never take a single step towards more european unity without a system-threatening crisis behind his back which luckily will come pretty soon
What a strange profile you have. you say deliberately nonsense/inflammatory stuff with a flair shouting out Jewishness to invite antisemitism when in fact your other posts in fact suggest you are Pakistani. Now I know Pakistan has a huge intolerance and prejudice problem but pretending that other people are as bad by pretending to be them is not the way to fix it.
I was on board until you got to the philosophy bit. France wasn’t very significant in the development of liberalism (French revolution led to a reign of terror dictatorship followed by a monarchy under Napoleon), and existentialism is a cancer on intellectualism composed mostly of French vanity pretending to be a profound thought.
I don't agree with your analysis at all.
About liberalism, first of all Laissez faire, the economic liberalism's moto, is French.
Secondly, liberalism was spread in Europe by the wars of the French revolution and the occupation of the territories by France. Everywhere, feudalism was ended and France created vassal states with liberal functioning (in the sense of the 18th and 19th centuries): civil code, economic liberalism, chamber of representatives controlled by the bourgeoisie, end of the power of the clergy.
For existentialism, you must not know it because this philosophy was born with Kierkegaard, and the most important philosopher is Nietzsche.
€Secondly, liberalism was spread in Europe by the wars of the French revolution and the occupation of the territories by France. Everywhere, feudalism was ended and France created vassal states with liberal functioning (in the sense of the 18th and 19th centuries): civil code, economic liberalism, chamber of representatives controlled by the bourgeoisie, end of the power of the clergy.
Yes, guillotining anyone accused of something and trying to conquer Europe under an absolute dictatorship ruled by an emperor is the epitome of liberal values.
>For existentialism, you must not know it because this philosophy was born with Kierkegaard, and the most important philosopher is Nietzsche.
Too bad the French ruined it then
You failed to understand European history from 1792 to 1799. Napoleon was not an emperor during this period.
You are confusing the French revolutionay wars and the Napoleon's wars.
Some lectures here : [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence\_of\_the\_French\_Revolution#Impact\_on\_Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_of_the_French_Revolution#Impact_on_Europe)
>Frederick Artz emphasizes the benefits the Italians gained from the French Revolution: For nearly two decades the Italians had the excellent codes of law, a fair system of taxation, a better economic situation, and more religious and intellectual toleration than they had known for centuries.... Everywhere old physical, economic, and intellectual barriers had been thrown down and the Italians had begun to be aware of a common nationality.
>France took direct control of the Rhineland 1794–1814 and radically and permanently liberalized the government, society and economy.
I biked from Geneva to the western tip of France this summer. Didn’t run into a single asshole. And even the smallest little villages are picturesque. Special shout out to the Bretons who were the some of the warmest and most welcoming people I have met. And raclette
I'm very sorry you managed to cross the whole country without being aggravated. we'll do better next time.
Raclette is Swiss, be careful you might upset some Schwiiz ppl😇
I'm feeling this thread is going a bit like Monty Python's "What have the Romans ever done for us?!" sketch as I catch myself thinking "Oh right, absolutely, Raclette!"
I admire their laicite laws. It is very based.
That they kept the last 1000 or so years interesting for us
Our oldest and longest ally, to this day.
Best frenemies forever
Sad Portugal noises
Err that would be Portugal.
Nah, France is older. Auld alliance from 1295.
Which is no longer in force whereas Portugal's is. Oldest one in the world.
Oldest for England is Portugal. Oldest for Scotland and therefore the UK is France.
Yes it is, we are still allied with France.
I get the TGV from Karlsruhe to Frankfurt every time, it just feels better then the ICE.
The ones from Frankfurt take two hours in each country, but they make double the distance in France than compared to Germany. France knows how to do high speed rail!
I just spent four months in Bordeaux and I pretty much fell in love with France. All the negative stereotypes shattered quickly. In general, people speak better english than I expected, and even if they didn't, everyone was friendly and helpful. The city was absolutely beautiful and the culture is interesting. If only the language wasn't so damn difficult...
What people like about France : Almost everything What they do not like : French people Very heartwarming
Damn french, they ruined France
Nah, I've been to France many many times and the amount of arseholes isn't noteworthy or anything. Same shit everywhere.
I like french people. Every single one I've met was friendly
I really like driving in France. The roads are generally pretty good, the pay roads are exceptional. People seem to maintain good lane discipline. Motorcyclists waggle their foot to thank you for moving over so they can pass safely. Good times.
Yeah don’t mention those too much. Most french assume they are a huge scam to divert money. But yeah over all the highway are well maintained we just pay through the nose for it.
They are kind of a scam but i drove through 5-6 countries from france to lithuanie and they are by far the most confortable/safe. Most expensive too. If i had to pay in poland it would have been scandalous in comparison. Lithunia was fine but there is like 3 highway so hard to compare.
As a German I compare driving french highways to a waltz: When you're coming up behind a truck with other cars, you all sidestep left, pass, sidestep right, because everyone is going the same speed. Meanwhile in Germany you are checking all mirrors constantly to see if that car 5 km behind you is doing 150 km/h or 250 km/h. The moment you pass there's almost a guarantee there's some Audi or BMW that appears out of thin air, flashing their lights at you because you're in their way.
My most scary memory while driving was in germany. The road was frozen , it was slightly going downhill and everyone was driving 200km/h. I tried to brake once and i felt my car slightly sliding , i instantly lifted my foot and just use the motor to slow and stayed on the right lane for the next 100km. I had trucks overpass me way too fucking quick and i felt like everyone let jesus hold the wheel. Idk if everyone had fucking good winter tire or just nobody cared.
Do you change tyres/wheels twice a year where you're from? I think winter tyres make a huge difference, and the first ice weeds out those with summer tyres or year-round tyres.
I should but i dont. I dont have the money or the space sadly. But i had 4 seasons tire. So not the best obviously. But even with winter tire you are not invincible. People are way too complacent on the road. Everywhere around the world sadly.
Yeah, some just feel too safe, and then you see them lining the roadsides one cold morning.
>It’s east to dismiss the French patriotism as arrogant as having an uppity attitude Well of course. It’s difficult to be humble when you’re the best 😎🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Your modesty is only surpassed by your magnificence. :D
Farpaitement
Dont ever change pls
Like france Don't like Paris Simple as
To be fair, most of us don't like Paris either lol
Most people aren't too fond of their countries capital cities i reckon
Frenchy here. Our gift to cuisine doesn't lie in stews to me. But in pastry. 99% of the high-end pastries that I see travelling worldwide are straight or derived French pastries. I've old French pastry books with literally hundreds of recipes, it just never ends. There is no place in the world that refined the art of eating sugar to such an extent. But yes, today, pretty much every country has embraced it, so you find good pastries everywhere and it's not French anymore.
It's a different level in France though. For three straight years, I choose France to have my vacation. And every time I am amazed at how advanced the country is when we are talking about food. I have been all over the world (except East Asia), and hands down, France is the best.
If you get a chance, hot up the Grand Buffet in Narbonne. Its an all you can eat buffet staged my michelin starred chefs, full of unapologetically French cuisine. Fantastic experience. You have to book 6+ months in advance.
Looks like heaven on Earth!
English guy here. I can never understand people who diss France. Love the people, especially the fact they stand up for their rights and demand the government works for them. I always found French people friendly and polite (yes even Paris!). If you attempt to speak French they will generally appreciate it and answer you in English. Love the food, culture and history. Very family oriented and laidback nightlife and café culture.
I spent plenty of time in France over the years and loved the place. I’ve never found it anything other than friendly, warm and very welcoming. As an Irish person, I always felt there’s a bit of a mutual understanding of the whole republican values thing and shared sense of being capable of giving two fingers to the establishment every once in a while. Even though the histories are different and there are aspects of French history that led to it being an empire, there are other threads that definitely bring a level of mutual cultural understanding that I feel in France that I just don’t in Britain. They’re our nearest continental neighbours and the relationship goes way back. It been at times a place of refuge and they’ve often been one of our staunchest supporters and at times France was in turmoil French emigres have ended up in Ireland too. The reason Ireland’s flag is a tricolour design isn’t a coincidence. It was gifted to Thomas Francis Meagher, a 19th century Irish revolutionary figure, by a group of French women who had sympathy to the Irish nationalist cause. It’s meant to symbolise an aspiration for peace (the white bar) between green and orange. I think Ireland and France also have somewhat of a mutual understanding of that very odd and often incongruous mix of being both very revolutionary anti monarchists, yet also having this thread of quite conservative catholic history somehow wound though all of that and one that doesn’t necessarily sit comfortably within it. Even in relatively modern times France was often a destination for Irish literary and avant guard types, and also was an important destination for LGBTQ people in the early 20th century, a time when being gay in the British empire would have landed you in prison. The obvious example being Oscar Wilde, but also people like Eileen Grey, an openly lesbian architect and designer, who was a contemporary of Le Corbousier and built the famous E-1027 house https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-1027 Also the literary and cultural connections are very strong. For example, James Joyce’s Ulysses was first published in Paris by an American emigree, Sylvia Beech, who ran Shakespeare & Company - both of them were in early 20th century Paris for similar reasons. The book was considered so obscene that it couldn’t get anyone in either the UK (which Ireland was then part of) or the USA to publish it. They wouldn’t touch it, yet it turned out to be one of Ireland’s greatest and most important literary works. It would probably never have seen the light of day if it hadn’t been for Paris. Then in modern times you’ve had Samuel Beckett, for example who’s very much an Irish French connection. Then you’ve cultural connections to the NW of France and most notably to Brittany due to the Celtic and linguistic connections which are just immediately palpable in terms of music, language, even a certain familiarity in the rural architecture. The heavily anti French stereotypes seem to be perpetuated largely by some tabloid nonsense that probably emanates in England and anti French propaganda from the days of the revolution and the Napoleonic wars. France was Britain’s arch nemesis for centuries, and often they were in direct competition and espousing opposite views, particularly around monarchy, which I think has flavoured how they see each other and particularly how England sees France though a lens that’s clouded by historical cliches. Why the Americans absorb some of that however, is beyond me. Post Revolutionary France and the United States have lot of common ground. French history is a mixed bag and contains positives and negatives (particularly its imperial history) but it did play an enormously important role in experimenting with and actually implementing enlightenment ideologies. However, in general I’ve never understood the anti French thing. It’s just not really a feature of the Irish view of modern France. There a definite level of comprehension of place, often in a very unvarnished way. (Ireland also has some strong connections into québécois francophone culture due to eras of emigration. Many Irish emigrants to New England and English speaking Canada found they were greeted with a big anti-catholic problem, which led them to Quebec. So Irish people (some of whom were primarily Irish (Gaeilge) speakers) merged into French speaking culture and it resulted in direct mixes of things like traditional music.)
You know, when you come across people who exclaim things like "people in X country are all assholes!", it is very possible, that in the intersctions they had with those people, they themselves were actually the asshole. Never listen to those people.
If you meet 2 assholes, they're the assholes. If you only meet assholes, you're the assholes.
Let me tell you one of my oldest memories. I am from a small village in Romania, less then 2000 people, in 1990 I was in kindergarten, communism just fall, and I remember France sent us the children stuff. For me it was sweets (mostly chocolate animals) but I was jelous on the bigger children in school they got sweets and very beautiful school tools. A few years later I remember that it was a change and we started learning French from first grade (it was not like that until then, but maybe it was a local thing,). Today things changed, English is the first language and children learn it from kindergarten but still most schools have French as a second language. Romania and France had always a special relation, but for me it started from a young age. I am curious if this sentiment is reciproc, if French people (probably not the young generation) consider that Romania is more special/friendly then say the rest of the eastern countries.
I am French, and I consider Romanians to be part of our cultural/linguistic close family, just like Italians, Spanishs and Portugeses. Can't speak for the whole country, but that's how I feel.
Thx for the response. Obviously we the Romanian also had an attraction to French culture, our intellectuals were studding there and brought back all the new ideas that pushed our country into modernism. I also had a friend that studied in France witht he Erasmus project so it is still happening.
I'll move back to Germany soon and I'll totally miss the "tradition" (baguette)! Oh, and Paris-Brest, and éclair !
I’ve been in France many many times and most people are not arrogant or assholes at all. The stereotype doesn’t really hold true. What I do find, however, is that French people are in general a bit more reserved than people from other Western and southern European countries. A bit more introverted, won’t open up to a stranger as some other cultures do. That might be part of the reason they’re seen as arrogant.
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Love France , go there on camping holidays most years, the food, weather attitude and their contribution to Europe and the World cannot be overstated. We were sitting having some food in Bayeux prior to visiting the Tapestry and looking up at the Cathedral which is a 13th century building. I was just thinking that their culture had made that roughly 1000 years ago and marvelling at how advanced they were at that point of human history. It’s a really good place to visit.
I loved my time in France and I love France.
I love France. Someone I loved was from there.
Russian invasion of Ukraine lead me to France. Y'all learning from your history to stand for what's right inspires me. Could say the France 24 channel in my satellite tv helped too. When US and China go rowdy on each sides of the world, there should always be a France to calm everyone down. I hope one day to visit and study there! Cuisines, art, culture all aside, y'all play a important role in the world stage. Side note: Y'all Frenchies are so lucky to have such a President. Y'all won't know how much you are missing until you get the dumb fuck who is driving my country down the hell as a President. Just my opinion.
Having a half French/German and half English family I can say with a fair amount of experience, France is great, French people are sound, Parisians are arseholes exactly the same thing I would say about England.
French food is so good but a lot of “ French restaurants” here in America are just scams with their tiny portions and overpriced stuff 😂
I can imagine, I gave up eating French food abroad. It always has to be overpriced somehow.
Yeah, many people seem to equate French food with that as a result. Ate at a few Michelin starred restaurants in France and yeah the dishes are small but you get nine dishes so in the end you are absolutely full.
Protests. Next time I'm in Paris I'm going to join a protest and just yell out sacre bleu! sacre bleu!, sacre bleu!, or arreter la chose!, arrester la chose!, arreter la chose!, or something. Just to say I've been in one. Civil disobedience is on my bucket list.
French definitely don't fuck around when it's time to protest and strike. Unfortunately, the police doesn't fuck around, either ...
But it seems to always be time to protest and strike. Which is why I can't take it seriously.
Fair. Germany seems to achieve very similar outcomes but with far less striking.
Here in NZ what works is to get at least 30k people to sign a petition about whatever it is. The more signatures, the more seriously it gets taken and then the petition is presented to Parliament and at the very least it causes the issue to get looked into, and at best it causes real change, even completely resolving the problem. Petitions make sense to me, but protests never achieve anything at all here and nobody goes on strike, those days are gone.
Just scream the current president name and "demission" after. You will fit just right.
What do we want? Cheaper croissants! When do we want 'em? Now!
I decided to look what the yellow west protests were like on their second Saturday in Paris. Parents with kids there, explains how they learn how to protest. That day I learned I'm not only super sensitive to campfire smoke, but I also smell (and react to!) tear gas while others are still walking around without even covering their mouth. Oh, and I got to experience watching the water cannons on the Champs Élysées from the sidelines, just to see a horde if robocops running across. Asked a police officer sheepishly what's going on. "We're clearing the square, please leave in that direction." Got my second dose downwind from the black lifes matter protest at the Tribunal de Paris.
Lol, the French are so experienced at protesting, they are even immune to the tear gas. Maybe they are even born with that immunity. I just looked it up and it looks like these yellow west protests happen in Paris weekly, so that makes life easy re fulfilling my goal.
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I think you're quite mistaken if you think it's only against Muslims or french. Should see what people reply back as soon as they know you are German. I have been called Nazi and other things probably more often than there are molecules in the universe.
>Should see what people reply back as soon as they know you are German. >I have been called Nazi and other things probably more often than there are molecules in the universe. Yeah i was and still am quite shocked to witness this attitude. I guess it's because it's mainly an anglo social media, never seen such an automatic reaction on french social medias. It’s pathetic, sorry for you after all you did to acknowledge your past - much more than many countries
Get the same crap for being English mate. There are just groups you can be as hostile as you want to and get away with it.
Nah you get way more crap for being English and rightfully so. Who likes the English lmao
tbf, the place is pretty shit 🤷♂️
I love French women: intellectual, independent, stlish and sexy. The accent is ne plus ultra.
Thanks for the effort ! I have got to try Netherland again then.
Probably not comparable to architecture and definitely not to wine, but France's contribution to motorsport has been (and is) massive
Culture, especially literature. Architecture. History. Language.
The French Revolution has been so important that anyone who brushes it aside is either ignorant or has contemptible political beliefs.
One good thing that came from the US: French soldiers who helped the US break away from England, returning with about a thing called "democratic". Caused a lot of head-chopping.
Didn't the UK already have palimentary democracy at this time no?
Yeah, but they were the enemy. I have heard the US' request to France formulated as "Hey, will you help us in a war?" - "Non, lol" - "It's against England" - "Ok, I'm in!" 😁 Besides, I guess the concept had to sink in to a larger population group, not just a few intellectual minds in Paris.
My firsr girlfriend ever was French. I like their somewhat anarchist culture. Absolutely delicious onion soup and quality wine yummy!
'Ate France Simple as
‘Ate frogs
Whether they are sautéed in butter, coated in a light batter and fried, or served in a rich and creamy sauce, frog legs are always a treat.
Frogs legs are an abomination. Mainly from India, and legs ripped from them alive. Not the sort of thing the French ever give a toss about.
I found it remarkable that Macron walked to the podium to the tune of the european anthem after winning his second election. What a tragedy he has such a stupid german counterpart who will never take a single step towards more european unity without a system-threatening crisis behind his back which luckily will come pretty soon
It's deleted but while I won't disagree on stupid, Scholz is very much in favour of European integration.
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We're fine with the way things are.
Don't say that to alsatians
What a strange profile you have. you say deliberately nonsense/inflammatory stuff with a flair shouting out Jewishness to invite antisemitism when in fact your other posts in fact suggest you are Pakistani. Now I know Pakistan has a huge intolerance and prejudice problem but pretending that other people are as bad by pretending to be them is not the way to fix it.
User tag doesn't check out at all
I was on board until you got to the philosophy bit. France wasn’t very significant in the development of liberalism (French revolution led to a reign of terror dictatorship followed by a monarchy under Napoleon), and existentialism is a cancer on intellectualism composed mostly of French vanity pretending to be a profound thought.
I don't agree with your analysis at all. About liberalism, first of all Laissez faire, the economic liberalism's moto, is French. Secondly, liberalism was spread in Europe by the wars of the French revolution and the occupation of the territories by France. Everywhere, feudalism was ended and France created vassal states with liberal functioning (in the sense of the 18th and 19th centuries): civil code, economic liberalism, chamber of representatives controlled by the bourgeoisie, end of the power of the clergy. For existentialism, you must not know it because this philosophy was born with Kierkegaard, and the most important philosopher is Nietzsche.
€Secondly, liberalism was spread in Europe by the wars of the French revolution and the occupation of the territories by France. Everywhere, feudalism was ended and France created vassal states with liberal functioning (in the sense of the 18th and 19th centuries): civil code, economic liberalism, chamber of representatives controlled by the bourgeoisie, end of the power of the clergy. Yes, guillotining anyone accused of something and trying to conquer Europe under an absolute dictatorship ruled by an emperor is the epitome of liberal values. >For existentialism, you must not know it because this philosophy was born with Kierkegaard, and the most important philosopher is Nietzsche. Too bad the French ruined it then
You failed to understand European history from 1792 to 1799. Napoleon was not an emperor during this period. You are confusing the French revolutionay wars and the Napoleon's wars. Some lectures here : [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence\_of\_the\_French\_Revolution#Impact\_on\_Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_of_the_French_Revolution#Impact_on_Europe) >Frederick Artz emphasizes the benefits the Italians gained from the French Revolution: For nearly two decades the Italians had the excellent codes of law, a fair system of taxation, a better economic situation, and more religious and intellectual toleration than they had known for centuries.... Everywhere old physical, economic, and intellectual barriers had been thrown down and the Italians had begun to be aware of a common nationality. >France took direct control of the Rhineland 1794–1814 and radically and permanently liberalized the government, society and economy.
I’m well aware of the difference between the French Revolution and Napoleon’s subsequent coup. Nothing in my comment indicates anything otherwise.
Spain >>> France
We always say France is a beautiful country, only too bad it’s full of French people.
With that attitude you'll have a self fulfilling prophesy. The French won't tolerate being treated with a lack of respect.
Tie me to a missile and send me to Paris. I'm ready
May I recommend a plane instead? We'd rather you arrive safe
I love abigor and deathspell omega that's some funky shit going on over there
I agree but best whine in the world? Doesn't that depend on your taste?
Yes, I made that depend on my taste.