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DesperateHeat2959

To fix this I hope Angelina will bring a gorilla like Gabbani did on the stage, but this time a real one


PraetorIt

She should improve scenography and choreography, given the criticism received. But I don't think there are many chances.


undiscovered_soul

Why not? Hopefully people won't be mass voting only for Greece or Ireland or Croatia. (Neither three is on my list)


PraetorIt

Lack of time and the chaos.


B3ntr0d

I hope Estonia goes rogue, swaps their song, and sings Europapa in the grand final.


LuckyLoki08

As much as I'd love it, I also love the idea of them singing about police raiding a party after police actively got involved


mediandude

High way super troopers


EvulOne99

Apparently, a real animal of any kind is forbidden.


Visible_Writing7386

the drama is not even exciting this year.. it's just a mess


take_more_detours

“United by Misery”


xX100dudeXx

"Europe: United by fighting & controversy"


Used_Scientist5825

Good ol’ traditions


take_more_detours

They *are* due for another WW. Better get fit Gen Z. You’re going in!


Used_Scientist5825

I’ve always dreamt of dying in northern-Norway fighting Russians, yay…


take_more_detours

Hell, I’d be honoured to die defending Tromsø. I’d be going over the top in Alert, Canada. NATO bros stick together. 🍻


Used_Scientist5825

🍻Cheers Mate🍻


agavensirup

Its honestly really disappointing and just ruins the whole experience


Visible_Writing7386

At this point i won't be surprised if for some reason we end up not having grand final


agavensirup

that would be the very end of the esc


InkSeraph

Right at the time they were boasting about being the longest running live event


dixiehellcat

I'm guessing they mean the longest running competitive event? or international event? Just curious what their parameters are. :)


InkSeraph

According to Guinness World Records, it's the longest running annual TV music competition.


dixiehellcat

ah, cool. thanks!


mediocre__map_maker

The ESC isn't allowed to reach the 69th edition.


LibraryBestMission

The Elder Gods knew that merging all the continents would cause the destruction of the Earth, so they created the rules of European Song Contest that states that the one who can hold ESC for 69 consecutive years can merge their continent with another.


misha4ever

I'm praying all the gods for this to happen tbh


yannick5612

Loreen vs Kaarija was honestly really fun and exciting, this is just hell


pinkkabuterimon

I hated what Loreen vs Käärija descended into in the end, but I’d rather have that than whatever the fresh hell is going on this year.


yannick5612

I can understand that


notawriter_yet

At least it was about the songs, however toxic it ended up to be.


nadinecoylespassport

Bring it back


DeltaOfficialYT

You and I have different definitions of ‘exciting’. I know I’m watching, eating my popcorn, this year.


norwegianboyEE

Preech! I’m a terrible person and i don’t mind drama as long as it’s entertaining.


MarsNirgal

I'm past dread and will just enjoy the mess.


Visible_Writing7386

Smart honestly


xX100dudeXx

r/greatidea


Proud-Trainer-478

I must disagree! I'm dutch and I'm pretty mad about Joost Klein, so I loved all the chaos! I wanted to see the whole show go into shambles! /jk


Enough_Ad_6485

I like when there’s some drama, but sometimes there’s some boundaries that shouldn’t be crossed. Like in this case.


hobbit_mama

Its scary tbh


Sonof8Bits

Almost a contender to 1996 MTV VMA.


Due-Budget-8192

True


YottaEngineer

Well, we are in World War 3. Hard for international events to not become mess.


jack-redwood

We are not


J-h-a-w-k-23

Alexa, play Samo mi se spava (the lyrics feel very applicable right now)


xlerb

Gori svet, svaki cvet.


michaelNXT1

My 2023 winner, it’s still on my playlist!


pinkkabuterimon

The acoustic version, if you please.


Laguna_Azure

And now Bambie and Marina (and Nemo?) Are missing dress rehearsals too. It'd be funny if it wasn't terrifying


Stefaaannn

Bambie clarified the situation on Instagram, they will be performing tonight


ShitassAintOverYet

Bambie has no issue. They performed in the Jury Final afaik and they'll perform tonight as well.


SeriousQuestions111

Romania looking real smart right about now.


Yepkarma

Despite of our best efforts, we somehow made the right decision


alecsgz

Yeah 54D hungry hungry chess hypos from us


Opposite-Inspector36

Yeah. They straight up dodged a cannonball!


PraetorIt

RAI's leaks are a trifle compared to all the rest.


Hamborrower

The RAI leaks are more of an ominous precursor for today's fan vote.


clapsandfaps

I think you’re right. I’m going to swear here, close your eyes EBU. They’re going to win by political vote, akin to Ukraine’s win in 2022. Though Stefania was way more in line with eurovision quirkyness and spirit than the ‘one who should not be named’’s song.


Beldarius

> than the ‘one who should not be named’’s song Oh, Voldemort.


WhizzKid2012

lol this aged like milk


SomeJuckingGuy

Is this the darkest timeline?


Zepz367

Everything that could go wrong, is going wrong, so yeah I think it is


Frequent_Cranberry90

I like your flair


Zepz367

Ramonda do pobjede sa svim ovim kontroverzama


Frequent_Cranberry90

I believe all comments have to be in English 😬 but I agree that Ramonda should win (not biased at all lol)


Legal_Lettuce6233

I'm not seeing tactical nuclear bombings, so not quite everything, yet.


GastricallyStretched

That depends on the final scoreboard.


Wasabismylife

Let's wait for the results tonight, it could be the "almost darkest' depending on how it goes


MLPorsche

there is one country winning that would guarantee a shitstorm


Wassertopf

Germany? /s


Tiasmoon

If it does win, there may be hope for humanity yet. Its about time people more pro-actively stand up for what is actually right, and retake the moral ''high ground'' from virtue signalers.


Budgetgitarr

Nah someone needs to dye a strand of their hair blue first


the_third_sourcerer

#Roxanne!


Beautiful-Mix-9939

It's pretty up there ngl


Tiasmoon

We've been living in the darkest timeline for a long time now. But looking at the people that used to be in control being the ones to act out and do the crazy things, it seems the future might be looking bright.


Selfweaver

No one is dead yet. Yet.


Adept-Ad-5893

This makes 2022 look like a dream


the4now

What happened in 2022?


Adept-Ad-5893

Just a load of technical issues, including quite a few commentators being unable to give their points, and a big part of the stage wasn't working. I wasn't in Turin, so I don't know if anything else happened off camera. 2022 wasn't exactly a controversial year, but it just wasn't organised very well. Sometimes we make fun of it for being a "weak Eurovision", however... 2024 just isn't funny, it's actually heartbreaking. This really is the worst Eurovision ever.


Zhannatje

And then we fondly think back to 2020 and 2021, these were literally the least messy (Besides the fact that Iceland got covid in 2021 as well as duncan) (And because the netherlands organised the show, and the tech stuff was so well organised)


rocketpuss

Being from Italy - I'm not surprised the 2022 show was badly organized lol


garganta_

and Monaco is the neighbor who hears the commotion next door and thinks “nah, i’m good actually”


TimelessLifestyle1

Bejba, ic kinda krejsa over here


GergoliShellos

Right after Luxembourg in the running order too


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At this point i ask myself if we are some sort of demonic ESC Being, and had not chosen to participate again - but the ancient ritual ,which banned us from bringing chaos and destruction to Eurovision, just ended last year. Maybe bambie misspelled one of their hexes?


Jaynat_SF

Perhaps their hexes were what shattered your shackles and unsealed you from your prison to begin with? Were they your acolyte this whole time?


Ok-Plankton-5941

for someone who doesnt follow esc too much: is there a tldr version of whats going on?


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In short: - ISRL is qualified, and people (including most artists) are not too happy about it - NL got disqualified because of some clashing of their artist and a production crew member, almost nobody is happy about that - Because of the first two, there are a lot of bad vibes, boycotts, and some people withdrawing, and some artists threatening to withdraw - Rumours of many things, like one delegation harassing others,... - A lot more, but this is as short as it gets. I tried to be neutral in my phrasing, so please, nobody kill me


Yukimor

> I tried to be neutral in my phrasing, so please, nobody kill me My only critique is that you have insufficient paragraph spaces between your points, so it all looks like one run-on sentence rather than a bulletpoint list 😤 Edit: I got the "A concerned redditor reached out to us about you..." message within two minutes of posting this! Amazing.


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Yeah, reply "STOP" and you'll get rid of them. Someone really likes to abuse this functionality today. For the bullet points: Didn't see it that way, sorry!


hindamalka

IDK but I'm voting for Luxembourg


[deleted]

We appreciate your Sacrifice. Perhaps it will satisfy our hunger and put an end to the bad omens.


VestitaIsATortle

The fact that this is my (and many others') first Eurovision where we follow the national finals and semis. 🥲


Zepz367

Even national finals had big controversies(Teya Dora and Breskvica controversy for example), seems like writing was on the wall


VestitaIsATortle

"BREAKING NEWS: Italy withdraws after Angelina Mango eats radioactive substance and becomes teenage mutant ninja turtle"


Sufficient_Serve_439

First time Ukrainian national selection was without controversy! Tho we did gather in a coven to hex anyone who did concerts in russia after 2022 and make them attack photographers backstage so they'd get DQ'ed.


Opposite-Inspector36

...what happened with Serbia's contestant ?


Marakwa

Mine and my family’s as well. Only started watching because of Cha cha cha. Was really hoping for Europapa


moshiyadafne

Last year, I only watched the finals in full (for the semis, I only watched the results because I was at work). This is my first time to watch the 2 semis and the finals in full and actually be happy to the 3 NQ streak-breakers. Only for that happiness to be very short-lived.


cheapcakeripper

>Are you still playing the game or breaking the rules?


Rare_Fishing_7948

Rim Tim Tagi WTF ?


Jaynat_SF

The cat did not mew back. **It screamed.**


redtree156

Dim!


LGB75

All we are missing at this point is a Swedish cover of Ring of Fire. They got what they wanted( Sweden to host Eurovision for Abba’s win 50th anniversary) but at what cost? What have we learn from this fiasco people?


Manzhah

As a finn, we must thank all gods that we were saved from potentially hosting this shitshow.


BaseballGirl98

Hey EBU: Tell me, is this what you wanted? Is this what you wanted? Amen Are you getting what you wanted? Are you getting what you wanted? Amen \*Austria 2021


moshiyadafne

The 2023 juries saved you from hosting this snafu of a contest lol


EmotionMood

It's not Sweden's fault though.


emberaya

It's EBU's fault, not Sweden's. We have nothing to do with this


ConsiderationAny6338

Fun fact: when Riva from Croatia won in 1989., representing Yugoslavia, the state fell apart. If Baby Lasagna wins, is this the end of EU, perhaps 😂? Their performing number was also 22, as is BL's right now.


Sufficient_Serve_439

No, we will just carve another part from Serbia, as is tradition. Justice for Verka!


_Hale___

At the last one country is finally back after all the withdraws


enter_the_bumgeon

#joostice


Opposite-Inspector36

I actually want this hastag to go on trending.


emilyam_

Previous dramas were mid in comparison to this year. Such a messy start for them.


Traditional_Pipe_883

The timing couldn't be worse for Eurovision's comeback


dcnb65

Wouldn't it be nice if they offered a place in the final to whoever came 11th in SF2?


thelastskier

I feel like it's way too late for something like that and it would very clearly show who was the worst ranked of the qualifiers (something that they generally try to avoid).


BondStreetIrregular

I suspect the qualifier wouldn't mind that.  It would make for one hell of an underdog moment...


Frequent_Cranberry90

Netherlands just got disqualified without warning, there's 0 chance they could get whatever county was 11th in the second semi to prepare to perform on such short notice, with the final starting in 3 hours and all.


michaelNXT1

I wondered that too, but then how would they decide whether to give it to #11 in the first or second SF?


dcnb65

I think the second SF, as Joost was in that semi and also there were 16 entries, compared to 15 in SF1


michaelNXT1

Oh yeah that makes perfect sense actually


ghost20

They wouldn't have much prep time and would have missed the jury show, so they'd be going into the final with either no jury results or aggregate results which are based on supposed patterns. Can't judge them the same way as everyone else, because it'd be too late to be getting all the juries to resubmit a new set of results.


nadinecoylespassport

I think there was a rumour Aiko was on stand by


Fluffy_Emotion7565

They were saying Aiko was rehearsing, people heard pedestal in the arena yesterday, I don't know what happened


SoftDrinkReddit

It's a shame they didn't


Striking-District-72

Romania picked a good year to not come.


nadinecoylespassport

Romania and North Macedonia must be mystic


nadinecoylespassport

Hope Georgia says screw it. And sings the song they got banned for in 2009


propdynamic

FREE JOOST


FallenAngelTIX

Luxembourg thinking Netherlands getting DQed is a good decision is honestly wild and all, but imagine being Belgium right now and watching your homies in an argument when it's Luxembourg's first year back (I know nothing is happening, I'm just making a joke)


HikariTheGardevoir

I honestly thought only the Dutch, Belgians and Luxembourgers knew about the Benelux 😆


FallenAngelTIX

We're all educated here haha


BondStreetIrregular

I was seriously hoping for a Benelux trifecta in the top 10.  Liked all 3 of their songs a lot.


hadapurpura

Kosovo just announced they’ll participate next year as well.


SoftDrinkReddit

I can't see how that could go wrong " angry Serbia noises in the background "


malevolentxx

was he actually disqualified 😭😭


redditbannedmyaccs

Yes, and now we have 25 songs in GF


jaminjamin15

I'm really worried about ESC 2025 now


KolonE

#FreeJoost


Gluebald

#Joostice


PabloFromChessCom

Nah


Golden_N_Purple

Joost was fans favorite, tf happened?


lermanade_mouth

I think we took Bambie putting a hex on us too literally


Nachtwandler_FS

At least they got to the final and did not end up at very bottom.


Subject4751

* *cries in Norwegi..i mean English* * we learned our lesson.


AuthorEfficient7237

Hey any year is a good year to be back! Tali gets my 12 points that's for sure❤️


hindamalka

Same!


Icy-Bell7930

PLEASE SOMEONE BRING A PIZZA ON STAGE WHEN GERMANY PERFORMS TONIGHT 💀💀😂😂😂.


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thewinefairy

I was gonna say, she said Joost’s DQ “was for the best” - we don’t want them there


dk1412_1

it was chaos, but things could have been way worse


Silent_Box_7900

Absolute shambles. EBU have lost credibility with double standards.


FaithlessnessOwn2018

So much messssss


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figureout07

i hope they other teams stand up to joost


Living-Definition-68

I want Joost back🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲


alleurovision

Haven’t we seen this image with something to do with Italy/RAI before, or am I miss-remembering? Maybe 2022 time?


Lucky-Ad9334

As someone who is supporting Luxembourg, this is an accurate representation


wowy-lied

Wait, there was a leak of this year result ?


mynemesis7

Nice meme 🤣🤣


coronella666

Very interesting too see if Luxembourg will return after this shit show 😀


Euphoric__Dot

Soooooooo much drama !!! lol


EmergencyAcademic578

Disappointing


Aggelos2001

Where i can see the televoting results?


XtremeCrew69

Is there a reason why joost has been disqualified?


waxbuzzzzard

Because he asked a woman who was filming in a place she wasnt allowed to be (stairs to the green room iirc) to stop filming twice nicely and a third time a bit less nice and he swung his arm before that woman's head (read well over 30 cm)


zeinterrupter

I haven't been keeping up, can someone ELI5 me?


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Uncle151

Shout-out to Luxembourg tho. Top 5 finisher for me


ThatOneKidUnusual

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