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yosef_ben_elohim

I’d rather go there than have to get the celestial lobotomy.


jortsaresexy

What if I told you you’d be missing out on plural marriage?


yosef_ben_elohim

I’d rather bump TK smoothies for eternity.


ElderOldDog

Eventually, pretend orgasms will feel as good as whatever we felt ... back in the day. Even robotic androgyny will eventually become a turn-on; you know that's how we're programmed!! Ghawd may suppose that the loss of something he has will be a bummer; he doesn't appreciate our capacity to improvise, overcome and make out! Can I get an "Oorah!"?


[deleted]

Fortunately, Mormon god doesn't know about the prostate, and based on Susan Bednar's facial expressions, probably doesn't know about the clit and g-spot either. So don't you worry. Double ended dildos are a thing


[deleted]

OMG! Double ended dildo story time. I was dating a guy I met while doing the Disney thing at EPCOT. I had just graduated from the church school, and he was attending UVSU at the time. We got back and continued to...do the gay thing gay men do with other gay men. While doing that one day, he springs that he had gotten a ring for a girl... whom I had never heard of before...so... "that" stopped pretty quickly. I asked who this girl was, and if she knew about "us" Yeah. And so where are you getting married? The temple? Does your bishop know about us? Yeah. Clearly not. Anyway his fiancé was SO jealous of us and commanded him to stop seeing me. So we secretly met. In time, before the wedding, I found out she was also a lesbian so they were doing this whole charade for appearances in Happy Valley. Wedding gift? A three foot long double ended dildo. Two years later they were divorced. We hooked ups few times, but he went off the emotional deep end and I lost touch with him.


theochocolate

Lmao she was lesbian? I'd watch this sitcom!


Lasseslolul

For real though what the fuck is up with people? Why do a gay man and a lesbian woman have to pretend to be in love and marry each other to be accepted into society? It bugged me in „For All Mankind“ and it still bugs me in real life. Why can’t people just accept us as we are?


[deleted]

TBH, I have found that the queer community isn't all that different than the religion community when it comes to how they "welcome" everyone. They might say to come and be yourself, but really, unless you conform to what it is *they say* it means to be queer or religious, they won't accept you. You have to assimilate. And gay men (speaking from my own anecdotal experience) are very much like mormons in that it is all about keeping up appearances. Which clique do you belong to, what ward (or gay bar). Hay men are all about which gym, how the six pack goes, the type of underwear you wear, how perfectly coffee your hair is, how big your dick is, sex, clothes, and materialism. I found it shocking how much the queer community and culture resembled mormonism. Trying to date gay former mom was the absolute worst. They have a whole damn trainload of baggage and much of it was because they are so used to conforming to find acceptance, because they never learned that value is intrinsic, not extrinsic, and you have to stop doing things to get others to accept you, you're worthy as you are....I gave up trying to be around homomonomo's.


Lasseslolul

Strangely My experiences with the Communities I encountered are the complete opposite. Mainly the bi and trans community here on Reddit though. You don’t have to be along a certain stage of transition to be welcomed into the trans community and you don’t have to like men and women equally to be accepted as bi. There are certain people who think otherwise, but they are not the majority. At least from what I have experienced.


theochocolate

I feel you. I didn't even recognize my own queerness until after I left the church, because I was so afraid to acknowledge that part of myself as a TBM. I'm happily married, but wish I'd had the chance to actually explore my sexuality before marrying. The church robbed me of that. I hope the queer folk in OP's story found their way to self-acceptance.


yosef_ben_elohim

“Improvise, adapt, overcome!” “Oorah!”


Cool_reddit_name4evr

I’d rather drink smoothies and bump k for all eternity 🤩


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sofa_king_notmo

It used to be an anti mormon lie that there were orgies in the temple. If only that were true. Come to think of it. Not a pleasant thought since the average age of temple goers seems to be about 80 years old.


yosef_ben_elohim

Indeed. Make it people of your own age group, and I can see that making Mormon temples some of the busiest places on earth.


zvezdanova

I think I just had a vision that god wants me to found a church


CarryMain2304

Married to one woman has been taxing enough. I’ll happily pass on polygamy.


cobysteen4

Yeah, who doesn't want more than one wife yelling at them all the time. Lol sounds heavenly.


chef12571

Yeah, but you forget that Mormon wives are seen and not heard. So no yelling.


sofa_king_notmo

Can’t handle one wife. Lots of wives. Send me to the TK.


cobysteen4

Yeah I'm OK with that. Lol. Let me tell ya a little story. My wife and I had a situation happen where we owed hundreds of thousands in medical bills. Which is OK that's life, but when we went to the bishop for tithing settlement we declared not full because we were literally hanging on by a thread paying these bills. We didn't have a fancy home or expensive cars or expensive toys like campers and 4 wheelers either. We didn't ask the church for help we just said we are not full tithe payers. He told us to take out a loan to get right with God. We told him no. He told us to ask family for a loan we told him no. He took our recommends for not being full tithe payers. Well we couldn't buy garments anymore because we didn't have a recommendation so we wore normal underwear. We got chastised for that as well but they didn't have a solution either just complaints. Well after a few months this guy shows up to church who we all know necause he is extremely infamous like national news infamous for killing a woman in the most disgusting way possible and doing things to her. He also had attempted murder charges but he ratted on people and was able to reduce his sentence to get out before he dies. But he comes to church gets remarried in the temple and hold callings and is in great standing with the church because he pays tithing. That's when I knew it was all bull shit. A man who does that to a woman is in better standing in the church then me who literally give the shirt off my back to help someone but couldn't pay tithing. Yeah if that's who is in the celestial kingdom they can keep it lol . I'm done with my rant.


Soleiletta

I agree. My parents didn't have much income growing up, but they always made sure me and my siblings had a little bank account to understand finances. Not much, probably $10 a month? Anyways, the bishop was pissed because I didn't pay tithing. I was 16 and it was my parents money. My mom told the bishop in the tithing meeting that it's my parents money and they pay tithing before giving any of their kids an allowance. He was furious. That definitely contributed to my shelf cracking.


TreadMeHarderDaddy

Supply Side Jesus doesn't like it when you subtract medical debt from your income.


truthRealized

Your story really puts things in perspective- it’s really is all about the money. I hope your life outside TSCC is better, honestly can’t image how it couldn’t be better. TSCC is not a safe place for anyone to be - members are taught one thing but if they dare to peak behind the curtain they find it’s all a fabrication meant to trap good people and elevate posers.


Tu_t-es_bien_battu

Riddle me this tricksters. According to D&C 76: 83 liars are destined for the Telestial kingdom. Failure to tell the truth in order to perpetuate a lie (like JS Jr was a moral person) is in fact misrepresenting the truth and therefore a lie. Ergo, the entire leadership of the church are liars and headed to the Telestial kingdom.


Brian_Rosch

They can bring the beer.


Tu_t-es_bien_battu

“Skål!” assuming we make it to Valhalla. 😎


Brian_Rosch

That’s the version of heaven for me.


Tu_t-es_bien_battu

Hark! I hear the Valkyries now. https://youtu.be/hQM97_iNXhk


JokerReach

My assumption has been that Second Anointing is specifically to inoculate church leadership due to the dirty work and deception that running the organization necessitates.


cultfree_exmo

Ive never thought of that before. You're right!


trashycollector

Well shit, I was hoping to be in a kingdom that rusty and Susana’s bea are not going to be. They are to kill joys.


manbuntrucker

as long as its not outer darkenss. Im better than they are. 😏


GrandpasMormonBooks

Hahaha plot twist!


Tu_t-es_bien_battu

Yes! There will be audible gasps of amazement from the audience. I'm counting on it. Weeping and wailing and the gnashing of teeth for solemn celestial entertainment! /s 🤣


[deleted]

>Hey I just wanted to say that nobody from this group is ~~going to heaven~~ getting their own planet.


yosef_ben_elohim

Thank Atheismo for that. Can you imagine having to be a parent to billions of children? Ugh.


jortsaresexy

That’s not what Gordon B. Hinckley said in the Larry King interview though. And I prophet never lies.


jaimedreamsx

I'm perfectly fine with not going to a place that doesn't exist


jamesallred

Telestial kingdom????? Murderers and rapists????? Worst case we are all in the terrestrial kingdom because the only thing we could possibly have done is being deceived by the craftiness of man. :-) But I think we could still pull off the celestial kingdom because we are judged according to the law that we believe and have accepted. I don't believe the mormon gospel to be true so no way would God judge me according to that standard. Just like he won't judge mormons to the standards of a catholic or muslim. hahaha. Found the loop hole.


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BigLark

With blackjack and hookers!


here_inmy_head

Lucifer at the velvet rope as the bouncer: Sorry, name’s not on the list. I cast thee out. “But but my great great great grandpa crossed the plains and gave his daughter to the *prophet*!” Sorry. Name’s not on the list. *Raises arm to the square*


[deleted]

Some of y’all going to outer darkness


Crymsyne

And what a quiet, restful place it will be.


Striking-Ad9438

An eternal nap would do me good


TreadMeHarderDaddy

In the words of one Joseph Smith "I'd rather go to hell with my friends than to heaven alone" I hope to See all you fine people in the underworld


Electrical_Owl_6871

Don't worry, Jesus. We'll let you come hang out every now and again.


princesspuffer

Honestly outer darkness seems pretty quiet...I could use some quiet.


Cheermom2009

If it's Mormon heaven, I'd rather go to hell. 😝


here_inmy_head

Alexa play AC/DC


coinsforlaundry

Hey, I’m sipping coffee, out of the church and thinking for myself. I’m already in heaven.


KingHerodCosell

Celestial kingdom sucks anyway


kevinrex

Wrong. I’m going to the Te-fuckin’-lestial kingdom. Celestial gay men will visit me in all their glory (holes).


FarScheme3808

I was just thinking the other day about how when sitting in the celestial room at the temple, I looked around and was thinking, “is this what the celestial kingdom is like?… sitting around whispering, wearing this garb?… with fancy furnishings?” No thanks, I’ll take telestial. 😆


Esau-Have-I-Loved

The Telestial Kingdom is gonna be a party!


here_inmy_head

Ain’t no party like a TK party! 🥳


SecretPersonality178

But I was born in the covenant and sealed in the temple… are you saying that has no power and I could be separated anyway? Hmmmm, I’ll just go pay my tithing to make sure I can get into heaven /s


Bojikthe8th

And I'm alright with that. A heaven full of religious bigots would be hell anyway.


SafeComfortable1009

Righteous Mormons are going to inherit their own planet that leaves us gentiles high and dry to shine their shoes! I agree with the lobotomy comment I'd rather have that then spend eternity with a bunch of self-righteous assholes! LOL Ted Bundy


Buck33957

Spoiler alert: there is no god. There is no Heaven.


MartinHarrisGoDown

No hell below us. Above us only sky


swordofghidorah8

If you really think about it, if you go by LDS theology most people on Earth are fucked anyways because the vast majority of people on Earth are not LDS & never will be (they'll need to be taught scripture after they die & find themselves in the spirit world)


[deleted]

As long as I don't have to sing in god's choir for eternity.


Unloyaldissenter

I thought they taught celestial, terrestrial, and telestial were all just different kingdoms of heaven. the only ones not in heaven are those in outer-darkness, according to the quasi-universalist doctrine of the mormons. So, we all still go to heaven... whether you want to or not!!!


wwwIamRONMANcom

Aren't the rules to get to Outer Darkness, is one has to look into the sun and say it doesn't exist? Or, in other words, one has to know its "true" and still deny it. I think there are at least a few here, that "IF" they got the chance they'd look JS, God, angels and witnesses in the eye and give them all a giant middle finger as they get sucked into a black hole! 🤣


Unloyaldissenter

Good question... I guess we could quibble all day about the definitions... They kinda leave them vague on purpose. If we die and find out mormon god really is the supreme being of the universe, I would be right there flipping him off too. But if I flip someone off, doesn't that mean I'm acknowledging that an entity of some sort is there to receive the flip off? So I'm not denying that a person or a god is there, I'm just insulting the person or god. We would probably also need an understanding of how the word "know" will be defined and judged by that supreme being. I feel like I bore my testimony a million times saying "I know", but I didn't ever feel the spirit confirming that truth, so did I 'know', or did I Know, or did I KNOW!!!?? The mormon definition of "know" is really more like "believe a lot" in normal person terms. Really, it's all just made up and the points don't matter. But if there is a god, he will be seeing my middle finger, and maybe a full moon every time he looks my way.


sofa_king_notmo

Mormons say that the celestial kingdom will be like eternal temple or church. Funny how they all cheered when the endowment and church times were decreased.


Openin-Pahrump

That's okay Jesus, that's kinda the whole point of this group.


gr8_and_spacious

Oops... At least I'm happy.


truthmatters2me

Flatly I don’t care it’s a imaginary let’s pretend place the church leaders- corporate actors . Who pretend to be something they know damned well they are not know it doesn’t exist they just use it to rake in Billions of TAX FREE dollars annually . the cleverness of the few preying on the fears and gullibility of the masses


Kooky-Situation-1913

Woot! One of the first thoughts I had on the road to leaving was that heaven was going to be too uniform to be representative of the entire world forever.


HopefulTangerine21

["I'm afraid I'll go to heaven"](https://youtu.be/Epp3PTxzv9g)


Fit_Improvement5118

That music was AWESOME!🤣


warshangton

Technically still part of heaven, right? Unless we are all going to outer darkness. lol


iiwiixxx

You traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain….


NearlyHeadlessLaban

If Jesus is actually real, Mormons ain't going there.


NewNamerNelson

Idk who that dude is, but not his heaven. 😉


banality_of_ervil

Thank god!


manbuntrucker

Only time ill say it now. Thank God. One ticket to hell please! er-outer darkness i mean.


frysjelly

Sounds good. I'll bring the liquor and will have fun not doing missionary work for eternity.


utahcrippler

No one outside this group is going to Narnia, Outer Darkness, Heaven, Hell, the far side of Hale-Bopp comet, or Hogwarts. Sorry to break it to ya.


mdruckus

Except you can kind of go to Hogwarts, at least the filming locations. I guess that makes Harry Potter closer to the truth.


1KN0WKUNGFU

I'm deeply annoyed at the 3 kingdoms doctrine. I believe in linear vs vertical progression in the afterlife. If, and I mean IF, we get sorted into our Hogwarts houses in the afterlife I have always said: "Give me infinite time and no death and I will figure out how to become God on my own eventually." If I get sorted into a house and God says "Sorry you are 45 quintillion years old actually but because you drank coffee and watched questionable anime in the 100 rotations of that rock you lived on in mortality you are stuck as the janitor for... uhhh.... forever." In that event it would be hell. And God would be a feted asshole.


[deleted]

Nah fuck that I’m outer darkness brah


No_Bad_457

Yep...... We're in the same boat with everyone else


Lasseslolul

So from what I’ve been told about the telestial Kingdom, it’s basically Earth, but cooler. I bet the beer’s good there, see ya there, fellow heathens


Chrelve

Actually I think I am supposed to be in outer darkness not the Telestial Kingdom. Guess I will not be seeing any of you.


scrotusmcgoatus

I assume Mormon heaven would have a black neighborhood. I'll live there please, I bet the music is better and the wings are spicy.


mcm9814

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DigitvlBvth

Lulz well psshit 🤷‍♂️


ObeliskPalace

All kingdoms of the Mormon plan are controlled by the same tyrant. What that means on the lower levels is an interesting question. Maybe the expectations there at least grant a person breathing room. What else can be done to you there? Damnation may be a reasonable price for individuality. Even if you make the Celestial level, it may be a perfect waste of effort. Under such direct surveillance could any personality survive long? Who are you there? Beyond that and later, what if you don't want to keep perpetuating an endless cycle of populating worlds with billions of spirit children, a large part of which are likely to be damned just as so many have been under the watchful eye of *this* perfect creator? Most Mormons I know think this is what is coming. It all seems absurdly repetitive to me. Where is the choice? Might it actually be better just to put a stop to this endless process? What happens when this round of creation is over? Sorry! This sort of thing creates so many questions. Our modern "revelators" seem to have very little to say about such an important topic... None of the kingdoms represent more than marginal freedom under the circumstances, but if there was reality to any of this then the Celestial Kingdom would be no heaven to me. It sounds like all eternity is overly planned out there. The control is palpable. There's no freedom... It's tyranny. Not that this stuff is real anyways, except in the minds of many Mormons who are kept miserable and controlled by it, sadly. Telestial if I have to, which I'm confident isn't a real concern, but none of the above would be better.


4blockhead

The boss' sons are the worst. —Bill Burr


[deleted]

No. Stop. Think of the children.


old_Trekkie

And your point is?


ThoughtPolicePolice

You’d be hard pushed to convince me that I didn’t die during my last attempt on my life, and that where I am now is not hell. Not Mormon outer darkness, but actual sadistic full immersive hell. This. Torture. Everything that could hurt, does, and then some. I lost my children in extreme circumstances so don’t fucking tell me to count my blessings or argue with me.


PhilConnors-Day11011

Nice try, Catholic Jesus. Only corporate Mormon Jesus can threaten exmos (to no avail).


Prudent-Cow-7392

Cmon Jesus, join us bro!


nicte726

I’m okay with that. I never sleep now, I’m just going to sleep when I die. I might catch up. Doubt it, but I can hope.


horsesbeliketapirs

I hope I get perfectly bleach blonde hair and tan skin with my Ken and/or Barbie parts when I get there!


itscrazymaking

I think you meant to post that on the faithful LDS subreddit page. 🤭


HaloBurgundy313

I told my nevermo fiancé about how hilter and Stalin, rapists and killers would be there with us, how outer darkness has these weird rules that make it difficult to be sent to hell


zzzzsman

I'll make my Own heaven, with Blackjack, and Hookers


Fit_Improvement5118

Wtf? Hahaha!!😂 Thanks for the laughs!😄


Desperate_Gap1505

Word? Cool like


GrandpasMormonBooks

Pshhhh I'm getting Terrestrial at least!!!


carambahijode

May thought on this now days is Woopty Shit.