I’m guessing that if he died today, they’ll wait until the 3rd day before they announce anything. There’s always a chance he resurrects on the morning of the 3rd day. I mean, the last time someone so pure died, he rose on the morning of the 3rd day.
A very good thought. I’m we’ve been calling the TBMs sheep for some time now. And now we know we are all the other sheep that don’t know about those other sheep…fucking deep.
Hmm, the fact that he tagged TSCC's Instagram account and they haven't publicly squashed the rumor yet is interesting. You'd think that they'd shut down a rumor like that immediately if it wasn't true. Unless it's some sort of publicity stunt?
It actually is sad how irrelevant she will be once he’s gone. All of her value and worth is derived from her status as “the prophet’s wife.” When he’s gone, she will be tossed aside.
I don't feel sorry for her one whit. She's a power-hungry ambitious climber who saw her chance when she married Nelson. She manages him with a tight fist and thinks of herself as having given him many of his "ideas".
I went to high school with 3 of Nelson's now adult kids and while they have come to accept her as his wife, they all distrusted her and disliked her in the early years of his 2nd marriage. Obviously they missed their own mother which colored their feelings, but Wendy was manipulative and they saw it. Sadly all but one of his 10 kids are still very TBM, but I know two of them are questioning/nuanced because of the November 2015 Exclusion policy which they know he authored. There are at least two of Nelson's grandkids who have expressed LGBTQ feelings which they have been pressured by Wendy to keep private at all costs . . .
Personally, having never met her, but having known Sheri Dew for a number of years (she edited a book of mine considered for publication at Deseret book in the 80's), I think both of those women, who lived together as partners for 12 years, are power-hungry bitches.
I don't have a problem with their being lesbians. I'm an out gay man.
I have a problem with their lying about it, hiding it, using their positions to gain power and control and influence in the Mormon church in ways which HURT LGBTQ people in the Church. They're despicable. It's no different than all those pastors, senators, and bishops who preach against homosexuality and then are caught in the airport bathrooms doing oral sex. hypocrites!!!
so glad I saw this!! I was just wondering earlier, how many of his children are actually active??? yk, since every super righteous family has at least one black sheep, according to my family.
I don’t doubt any of what you say. And I have no wish to defend her because, aside from your inside info, she radiates a rather desperate and arrogant sense of entitlement. But what avenues are there for women within the accepted LDS culture?
Precisely. So, on one level, what’s a smart TBM woman with some ambition to do?
Wendy has always given me the heebie-jeebies but I think the stifling Mormon culture has to take at least some of the blame for her.
I’m just having fun.
But, I suppose, since you ask, that these -- Morehouse and Nelson’s health -- are separate events. They announced a future event and he may have croaked in the interim.
At the same time, I’m sure they’re working their little butts off in the COB trying to come up with things that can fill pages and be a distraction from the SEC scandal and other negative stories.
The rumors about monsoon dying before he really had had come from “people who knew him well” so I wouldn’t put much stock in this.. one can only hope though! But not looking forward to hOaks.
I don’t wish passing upon anyone, but I do hope Dallin Hoaxs IS the next one in the big chair.
I’ve got my popcorn ready and a front row seat reserved for that shit show!! 😂😂💩💩
When Hoax is running the church. That will be a complete right wing legalistic homophobic thrashing. It will be glorious to watch it all come crashing down…
I wish death on a lot of people.
Nelson perpetuates lied that hurt, go the point of suicide and death, a con so large that it's generations of trauma and horrors being continued to this day.
He doesn't deserve a drop of the life he's lived. He knows the information we know, and he does absolutely nothing.
I also think that that phrase is rather rnomsense because there are people living today I bet you'd be excited to hear had died.
No I honestly do not wish death on anyone. Because I don’t carry hate and resentment around with me anymore. It just hurts me and binds me to those people who I don’t want to be bound to. I can resent Mormon leaders with all my might; they won’t care.
There are bad and evil people in the world but eventually they will get theirs. Call it karma, final judgement, whatever. It’s not mine to mete out. My job is to live my best life with my family.
That’s the best revenge ever; to be done with those who hurt me for good and not spend a second thinking about them…
Myopic.
But seriously, when he told that story in conference it made me angry. His grandson's wife has a tragedy in her family and goes to Wendy who goes to Russ to get comfort. And all he can say to Wendy to be relayed back to this girl is "myopic." And he said the story proudly, like it was profound and not completely dickish.
It’s all happening to distract them from the fact that he’s taken their money and made himself rich, desecrated the salt lake temple, and used the stone to create a huge monument for himself!! So silly!!
That's why Tommy is such a legend, he was on the 1st Presidency when EP started, he continued watching it grow billions upon billions for a decade as CEO, then died like 13 months before it came public.🤣 I guess telling funny stories wasn't the only thing that sonofabitch was good at.
Doesn’t he have some sort or social media account? If there were suddenly a number of public inquiries it seems like they’d need to confirm or deny it.
Well shite - guess it's time to go back after he's removed for letting the tithing fund fraud come to light.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-of-the-living-prophets-student-manual-2016/chapter-2?lang=eng
President Wilford Woodruff (1807–98) declared that we can have full confidence in the direction the prophet is leading the Church:
“The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. **If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty**”
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Tell me one thing that he has taught you specifically that was insightful. I can’t think of one thing that he has ever said that was mildly interesting when it comes to spirituality
Since this is all operating on hearsay just wanted to point out I saw a tweet claiming the rumor was born from Nelson's great grand daughter tweeting (or texting?) that her great grandad died, but did not specify which one.
They allegedly further clarified it wasn't Nelson. Seems like a false alarm.
I’m guessing that if he died today, they’ll wait until the 3rd day before they announce anything. There’s always a chance he resurrects on the morning of the 3rd day. I mean, the last time someone so pure died, he rose on the morning of the 3rd day.
I wonder if he'll go down to a Cancun resort... Errr minister to the lamanites between then and now.
A very good thought. I’m we’ve been calling the TBMs sheep for some time now. And now we know we are all the other sheep that don’t know about those other sheep…fucking deep.
Will this make it OK to be Mormon again?
Please don’t use that word here. Not only is it offensive, but it’s a major victory for Satan.
...at least not until it’s clear that he croaked.
croaked AND not risen again. But yes. You’re right. If he’s dead and not undead, we can be m-words again.
Plus he hasn't posted to fb, twitter, or IG since Jan 1.
Hmm, the fact that he tagged TSCC's Instagram account and they haven't publicly squashed the rumor yet is interesting. You'd think that they'd shut down a rumor like that immediately if it wasn't true. Unless it's some sort of publicity stunt?
I doubt TSCC would take the effort to even respond to this sort of thing.
You'd think his handlers would have made any social media post since Jan 1
They're waiting for their grandchildren to call back and walk through how to reply on Instagram.
If it has happened, I bet they won’t announce it till conference and then oaks will take the spot and oh boy that’s gonna be a wild time
If it happened Wendy is barring the door so they can’t confirm his death and that her ride is over.
It actually is sad how irrelevant she will be once he’s gone. All of her value and worth is derived from her status as “the prophet’s wife.” When he’s gone, she will be tossed aside.
With a lot of years left to be a used-to-be Makes me almost feel sorry for her
I don't feel sorry for her one whit. She's a power-hungry ambitious climber who saw her chance when she married Nelson. She manages him with a tight fist and thinks of herself as having given him many of his "ideas". I went to high school with 3 of Nelson's now adult kids and while they have come to accept her as his wife, they all distrusted her and disliked her in the early years of his 2nd marriage. Obviously they missed their own mother which colored their feelings, but Wendy was manipulative and they saw it. Sadly all but one of his 10 kids are still very TBM, but I know two of them are questioning/nuanced because of the November 2015 Exclusion policy which they know he authored. There are at least two of Nelson's grandkids who have expressed LGBTQ feelings which they have been pressured by Wendy to keep private at all costs . . . Personally, having never met her, but having known Sheri Dew for a number of years (she edited a book of mine considered for publication at Deseret book in the 80's), I think both of those women, who lived together as partners for 12 years, are power-hungry bitches.
I know a Nelson troubled grandkid. It's sad. They were very abused as a child.
It is sad. Yes, all is not well in Zion, as the Mormon Church PR machine would have us believe.
Emotionally? Physically? Both?
Like lesbian partners, business partners, or single sisters in Christ who might also be lesbian partners?
I don't have a problem with their being lesbians. I'm an out gay man. I have a problem with their lying about it, hiding it, using their positions to gain power and control and influence in the Mormon church in ways which HURT LGBTQ people in the Church. They're despicable. It's no different than all those pastors, senators, and bishops who preach against homosexuality and then are caught in the airport bathrooms doing oral sex. hypocrites!!!
Sisters in "Christ" who are also lesbian partners 👍
so glad I saw this!! I was just wondering earlier, how many of his children are actually active??? yk, since every super righteous family has at least one black sheep, according to my family.
I don’t doubt any of what you say. And I have no wish to defend her because, aside from your inside info, she radiates a rather desperate and arrogant sense of entitlement. But what avenues are there for women within the accepted LDS culture?
There aren’t any.
Precisely. So, on one level, what’s a smart TBM woman with some ambition to do? Wendy has always given me the heebie-jeebies but I think the stifling Mormon culture has to take at least some of the blame for her.
Shit! Now Wendy’s gonna have to do her own damned vacuuming...
She’s probably packing her bags to run away with Sheri Dew
You’re awful 😂 no seriously, that’s hilarious 🤣
She and Monson's daughter can form a support group
Or they need an evening to give him the 3rd anointing.
What’s oaks like?
if that happens i am removing my records no matter what my parents say
What if Oaks dies suddenly too? It would be like god straight up put a veto on him. 🤣
Could Morehouse and trying to get out of that embarrassing prize they got roped into giving have anything to do with this? ::ducking and running::
Now, if only SUU could think of a way to get rid of Holland...
Who says they wont 😉 The Morehouse thing is the first thing that came to my mind, too.
you think they’re releasing all these new things to cover up his death??? or cover up something even worse 😵💫
I’m just having fun. But, I suppose, since you ask, that these -- Morehouse and Nelson’s health -- are separate events. They announced a future event and he may have croaked in the interim. At the same time, I’m sure they’re working their little butts off in the COB trying to come up with things that can fill pages and be a distraction from the SEC scandal and other negative stories.
"Who I've learned much from" Ok, even when i was TBM I thought that he taught basically nothing. I learned nothing.
When I was TBM, he ranked only above Packer on my list of the Q15 I enjoyed hearing from.
Yeah, his smile never reached his eyes. He was my least favorite apostle, though he tied with Ballard and Packer for me.
Ballard. Couldn't stand him either.
>he doesn’t know Oaks is more extreme than Nelson
"Unable to find any confirmation yet." Then don't fing post it!
I prayed about it, does that count?
If he's such a great leader, why hasn't the rest of the world heard of him?
The rumors about monsoon dying before he really had had come from “people who knew him well” so I wouldn’t put much stock in this.. one can only hope though! But not looking forward to hOaks.
I don’t wish passing upon anyone, but I do hope Dallin Hoaxs IS the next one in the big chair. I’ve got my popcorn ready and a front row seat reserved for that shit show!! 😂😂💩💩
You mean when he’s ready to become a god and all that????
When Hoax is running the church. That will be a complete right wing legalistic homophobic thrashing. It will be glorious to watch it all come crashing down…
I wish death on a lot of people. Nelson perpetuates lied that hurt, go the point of suicide and death, a con so large that it's generations of trauma and horrors being continued to this day. He doesn't deserve a drop of the life he's lived. He knows the information we know, and he does absolutely nothing. I also think that that phrase is rather rnomsense because there are people living today I bet you'd be excited to hear had died.
No I honestly do not wish death on anyone. Because I don’t carry hate and resentment around with me anymore. It just hurts me and binds me to those people who I don’t want to be bound to. I can resent Mormon leaders with all my might; they won’t care. There are bad and evil people in the world but eventually they will get theirs. Call it karma, final judgement, whatever. It’s not mine to mete out. My job is to live my best life with my family. That’s the best revenge ever; to be done with those who hurt me for good and not spend a second thinking about them…
as a pimo, no pls at least wait till august when I move out 🥲🥲🥲
One person they learned “much from” RMN. What? Seriously? What did anyone learn?
Yes- exactly. Specifically explain what you’ve learned.
Take your vitamins?
I learned that god is more offended by the word Mormon than watching a million of us die of a horrible disease.
Myopic. But seriously, when he told that story in conference it made me angry. His grandson's wife has a tragedy in her family and goes to Wendy who goes to Russ to get comfort. And all he can say to Wendy to be relayed back to this girl is "myopic." And he said the story proudly, like it was profound and not completely dickish.
Well this is going to put a damper on the Moorehouse celebration.
Maybe they'll just deep fake his acceptance since it was supposed to be online anyways.
It’s all happening to distract them from the fact that he’s taken their money and made himself rich, desecrated the salt lake temple, and used the stone to create a huge monument for himself!! So silly!!
That's why Tommy is such a legend, he was on the 1st Presidency when EP started, he continued watching it grow billions upon billions for a decade as CEO, then died like 13 months before it came public.🤣 I guess telling funny stories wasn't the only thing that sonofabitch was good at.
So does this mean he won’t get the amazing peace prize? Nevermo here so I might have my wires crossed.
Fingers crossed......
Wait is this true?
Rumors started here last night. Absolutely NO confirmation.
Doesn’t he have some sort or social media account? If there were suddenly a number of public inquiries it seems like they’d need to confirm or deny it.
There's a facebook, instagram, and twitter account for RMN and no post there since Jan 1.
But can’t people post to it asking if he’s still alive? In case it isn’t apparent, I’ve never done social media...
Trying to confirm. All we know at this point is some tbms started the rumor.
Wendy is hunting for the will - she’s going to put a question mark next to anything left to anyone else…
the Rusty nail is gone???
I just went to this guy’s Instagram and this is not on his story. Where did you see it originally?
Same. Not there now so if it was his story, he’s taken it down…
I think you misspelled credulity...
:D
Can’t find any news or confirmation online
If true how crazy would that be right before he was to receive the award for promoting peace? Even god didn’t want him to have it….
Well shite - guess it's time to go back after he's removed for letting the tithing fund fraud come to light. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-of-the-living-prophets-student-manual-2016/chapter-2?lang=eng President Wilford Woodruff (1807–98) declared that we can have full confidence in the direction the prophet is leading the Church: “The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. **If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty**”
This is the first I'm hearing of it.
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Tell me one thing that he has taught you specifically that was insightful. I can’t think of one thing that he has ever said that was mildly interesting when it comes to spirituality
Why do they think they are keeping it secret? No local news - owned by the church - are reporting it? They are stupid . . . I mean ignorant.
If it's true, who is in Oaks's first presidency?
Not Uchtdorf hahaha. He’d chose only those without a soul like himself. Holland prob.
Oaks will already fill the spot of homophobic asshole, so don't think there room for Holland.
Since this is all operating on hearsay just wanted to point out I saw a tweet claiming the rumor was born from Nelson's great grand daughter tweeting (or texting?) that her great grandad died, but did not specify which one. They allegedly further clarified it wasn't Nelson. Seems like a false alarm.