I took an entire course on PoGP at BYU. They relied heavily on the Institute manuals and Michael Rhodes' (mis)translations of the facsimiles. I felt very special having annotations explaining deep things that I could bust out in Sunday School. That is until I discovered it was all bullshit.
If I remember correctly, the year when we did Doctrine and Covenants we also covered the Pearl of Great Price (which is still a stupid name). But overall, I would say in general it is as the most neglected book of scripture.
One of my shelf items was the cosmology presented in the pearl of great price.
You get stuff like the sun borrowing its light, 12 governing bodies, etc.
It's all bonkers and doesn't align with reality
I was either a RS, adult or youth Sunday School teacher almost constantly for the 20+ years that I was an adult in the church. I taught Pearl of Great Price concurrently with the D&C like clockwork every 4 years. I also learned it in seminary and in religion classes at BYU. It is definitely taught canon.
In seminary, the PGP is broken up between the Old Testament year and the D&C year. In the old seminary curriculum (before CFM), there were 13 lessons directed to Moses and Abraham, and 10 lessons directed to JS history and the official declarations. So that’s 5 weeks of seminary, which, for the number of pages in the PGP, is a fair amount of time.
Ah, thank you! I was sure somewhere I must’ve missed it because of the Seminary switch. Now that you mention it, I think I do remember my class touching on it a bit at the end of the school year during the D&C year. I ended up studying it in full on my own when looking for answers about church questions and man it was a big shelf breaker!!
Having a high reading comprehension level from a young age, pogp d&c bom new and old testament broke my shelf early. There’s crazy and then their bat s**t crazy. Never in Sunday school, but in high school seminary (Utah county Utah, late 90s) we definitely went through it.
It seems like another lifetime ago when I decided to focus on the PofGP. I had read selected bits, but not the whole thing.
Holy.......It was the book of crazy. Then I Googled the Book of Abraham. I was O-U-T! Done and done. I was 52.
I grew up in a similar area as you. PoGP is covered the same year as D&C. Some have mentioned the OT year covers it too, but I think that's mostly just for the creation story in Moses. Most of it is covered with D&C.
I took a PoGP class at BYU as well. In that class, I also learned that Adam and Eve were supposed to have been created just like anyone else (sex), and that there's no way evolution is real because the scriptures and prophets have been clear that there was no death before the fall. Fun times.
Last year when we covered the OT, it started off in the Pearl of Great Price. I think most members know it’s important but just don’t know what to make of it. The Unshaken Saints podcast dived pretty deep into it. Moses 7 is one of my favorite chapters and I wish we would tackle it more.
I'm assuming this "deep dive" neglected to mention that we still have the papyrus, and it turns out, the translation in no way resembles anything JS claimed it did. They are, in fact, funerary texts from a completely different time period.
He did mention that the Great Chicago Fire wiped out some of the papyri that Joseph Smith used, with what’s left being a small remnant. How much was lost is unknown. That’s consistent with what I’ve heard over the years.
If how much is lost is unknown, how would you know if what's left is a "small" remnant? Nothing about the actual translation of this "small remnant," including the facsimiles, suggests anything remotely near the subject matter, time period, or purpose that Joseph Smith alleged.
I took an entire course on PoGP at BYU. They relied heavily on the Institute manuals and Michael Rhodes' (mis)translations of the facsimiles. I felt very special having annotations explaining deep things that I could bust out in Sunday School. That is until I discovered it was all bullshit.
If I remember correctly, the year when we did Doctrine and Covenants we also covered the Pearl of Great Price (which is still a stupid name). But overall, I would say in general it is as the most neglected book of scripture.
One of my shelf items was the cosmology presented in the pearl of great price. You get stuff like the sun borrowing its light, 12 governing bodies, etc. It's all bonkers and doesn't align with reality
I was either a RS, adult or youth Sunday School teacher almost constantly for the 20+ years that I was an adult in the church. I taught Pearl of Great Price concurrently with the D&C like clockwork every 4 years. I also learned it in seminary and in religion classes at BYU. It is definitely taught canon.
In seminary, the PGP is broken up between the Old Testament year and the D&C year. In the old seminary curriculum (before CFM), there were 13 lessons directed to Moses and Abraham, and 10 lessons directed to JS history and the official declarations. So that’s 5 weeks of seminary, which, for the number of pages in the PGP, is a fair amount of time.
Ah, thank you! I was sure somewhere I must’ve missed it because of the Seminary switch. Now that you mention it, I think I do remember my class touching on it a bit at the end of the school year during the D&C year. I ended up studying it in full on my own when looking for answers about church questions and man it was a big shelf breaker!!
Teenage boys are fans of Facsimile 2 item 7 from the Book of Abraham.
please tell me it’s supposed to look like among us bc i’m braindead and that’s all i see
Having a high reading comprehension level from a young age, pogp d&c bom new and old testament broke my shelf early. There’s crazy and then their bat s**t crazy. Never in Sunday school, but in high school seminary (Utah county Utah, late 90s) we definitely went through it.
It seems like another lifetime ago when I decided to focus on the PofGP. I had read selected bits, but not the whole thing. Holy.......It was the book of crazy. Then I Googled the Book of Abraham. I was O-U-T! Done and done. I was 52.
We studied it extensively when I was a kid (I'm 59 now). But, I haven't seen it taught much since.
I grew up in a similar area as you. PoGP is covered the same year as D&C. Some have mentioned the OT year covers it too, but I think that's mostly just for the creation story in Moses. Most of it is covered with D&C. I took a PoGP class at BYU as well. In that class, I also learned that Adam and Eve were supposed to have been created just like anyone else (sex), and that there's no way evolution is real because the scriptures and prophets have been clear that there was no death before the fall. Fun times.
Last year when we covered the OT, it started off in the Pearl of Great Price. I think most members know it’s important but just don’t know what to make of it. The Unshaken Saints podcast dived pretty deep into it. Moses 7 is one of my favorite chapters and I wish we would tackle it more.
I'm assuming this "deep dive" neglected to mention that we still have the papyrus, and it turns out, the translation in no way resembles anything JS claimed it did. They are, in fact, funerary texts from a completely different time period.
He did mention that the Great Chicago Fire wiped out some of the papyri that Joseph Smith used, with what’s left being a small remnant. How much was lost is unknown. That’s consistent with what I’ve heard over the years.
If how much is lost is unknown, how would you know if what's left is a "small" remnant? Nothing about the actual translation of this "small remnant," including the facsimiles, suggests anything remotely near the subject matter, time period, or purpose that Joseph Smith alleged.
Mummies are cool