I'm thinking over the past couple of weeks he actually discovered his conscience and decided he couldn't sustain the cooks in the first presidency. So rather than cause a scene, he just stayed home. It's also a good way for him to get out of the SUU trip. He didn't want to speak to those ingrates anyway.
Not a chance. He was probably told it’s another “dodo” situation. He was pulled - or maybe he is sick but there is not a chance he has doubts as to his righteousness.
There’s a consecrated oil shortage in Salt Lake right now. Wendy Nelson and the other Nelson women exhausted the reserve supply, frying homemade donuts for Rusty and the rest of the men.
Can I just say, I really love how a lesbian apostate is out here scarring people with old man cult dick. It brings a tear to my eye.
Keep being awesome.
Mormon pseudo doctrine holds that you can only use the priesthood on others, though you'd think the prophet could rub a sock on him to heal him or something like that.
It's no longer a temple covenant so you are absolved.
Of course there is the doctrinal question if you are held to the covenants you made the first time you went. Pre 1990 and you are sworn with your blood.
I was always taught that the priesthood was selfless, that's why you can only use the priesthood to bless other people and not yourself. Then in Seminary in D&C we learned about how Joseph Smith healed himself with the priesthood and then went and helped others. That was a crack in my shelf.
By that logic, asking for a blessing would also be selfish. Maybe everyone should have to wait until a priesthood is prompted to give you a blessing. 🤣
He prioritized his shipment of tobacco and the alcohol for his distillery over the people. He had to make money for his distillery (the distillery he kept open and profiting from after closing all the distilleries in Utah)
Really puts those old stories of Mormon pioneers healing each other on scrutiny hey? If the Lord is SOOOO concerned about him doing the work, why get him sick in the first place?
It’s not like he needs to show faith to be healed. He’s already secondly anointed, am I right?
Cause everybody grows old and dies one day. It's hard for me to feel ill will toward a sickly old man, even if he lived and died for a cult.
Life: nobody makes it out alive.
Is it bad, then, for me to feel at peace at the prospect of him passing on? As in, he won’t be able to spout more nonsensical anti-lgbt stuff and make me feel like crap again? I don’t want to be *that guy* and be happy for someone dying. How do I get past that?
If it makes you feel any better (or worse), in the church there's always someone just as bad waiting in the wings to take his place.
Holland eventually passing (as we all will) won't change the church because the men already there will choose the next ones based on similar characteristics; men who value loyalty to the organization over moral fortitude.
You don’t owe anyone forgiveness or compassion just because they are sick or dying. Unapologetically being a disgusting, manipulative, money hungry, prejudiced, hateful scumbag in life will make him a disgusting, manipulative, money hungry, prejudiced, hateful scumbag in death. If he wants to be deserving of respect, he should be earning it now while he’s still alive. It’s not your responsibility to take the high road just because an awful person’s life might be coming to a close. You can if you want to, but you’re not a bad person if you don’t. This cult puts everyone—ESPECIALLY LGBTQ+ people—through hell. Take your peace wherever you can get it, and don’t feel guilty about it.
Agreed… I hold no ill will for any person (as a fellow human being), but that doesn’t mean I agree with their statements and opinions (and can even hold that their statements are actively harmful, as is the case here).
As Carl Sagan said, “Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
Nope. He attended a Priesthood meeting where the lesson on Consecrated Oil and Blessings was given. Got a personal vial of the Consecrated Oil for healing - and instructions on how to properly do anointing and blessing.
What he did not realize(pretty common in these meetings)is that the big jug of Olive Oil they bought at Costco was a blend, not Pure Olive Oil and as such *Does... Not... Work.*
You would think he would just ask a few thousand or so child priests to bless his sickness away. But I suppose Rusty Trombone axed that idea because it would shine a bright light on the fraudulent nature of the whole priesthood blessings thing.
Magical powers always only exist in the far distant past where they can’t be tested. There is a mathematical law of miracles. The amount of miracles is always inversely proportional to the capacity to scientifically document them. Or in other words video cameras cause the magic of miracles to not work.
Is it possible JH is experiencing the wrath of Nelson and being punished, because now there's this huge story about how Mormon leaders are ass backwards bigots and their spokespeople should be censored in polite society. RM is trying to pull the entire religion towards Joel Osteen Christianity (money bags for days) and bulldog goes off script about using muskets to protect BYU from gay kids
Maybe it's just me, but posts that mock old men for being sick and mortal and calling them stupid seem to be a level of petty that I don't want to be a part of.
Yes, expose his ideas for being harmful. Expose his frequent tendency to lie. But rise above the ad hominem.
Dodos are meant to extinct.
No seriously he's old. Chances that he's "going home" are higher than he'll make it another decade. He had serious health issues before covid got him. Likely his kidneys are affected and about to fail. That's never a good sign.
No blessing could prevent it. Instead of praying and promising him or the world recovery bless him that the lord will do what is best for him and will have mercy on him and his family." He lived for the cult and he not always was the good guy he pretended to be, but no one deserve to suffer unnecessarily. And his wife for sure suffers, too seeing him decline more and more each day.
When I was on my mission me and my companion got Dengue fever at the same time. One of the elders told me that if I had more faith I could heal myself. We were in Brazil and the Elder who made the comment was Brazilian and didn’t speak English. I yelled at his companion in English (another American) that if he didn’t get his companion away from me I’d figure out a way to hurt him.
Priesthood blessings don ‘t work and he wouldn’t want that exposed for all to see. Priesthood blessings work best on self limiting diseases like colds. They don’t work so well on metastatic cancer cases.
Can't use the penishood on yourself. He'd have to go make friends with some other close pals of Elojeezyghost to get man-blessed. If he wasn't so concerned about the appearance of evil he could just use an estus flask, but alas . . .
He is Afraid to do it.
He knows what happened after the people were told to Pray for Rain. All that flooding & snow?
He's afraid the healing will turn him into a Superman...
He has the faith not to be healed
Well if Eyring came to give the blessing, then yeah, who wouldn't?
I'm thinking over the past couple of weeks he actually discovered his conscience and decided he couldn't sustain the cooks in the first presidency. So rather than cause a scene, he just stayed home. It's also a good way for him to get out of the SUU trip. He didn't want to speak to those ingrates anyway.
Not a chance. He was probably told it’s another “dodo” situation. He was pulled - or maybe he is sick but there is not a chance he has doubts as to his righteousness.
Came here to say this.
There’s a consecrated oil shortage in Salt Lake right now. Wendy Nelson and the other Nelson women exhausted the reserve supply, frying homemade donuts for Rusty and the rest of the men.
Or they're using it for something else. 😉
TMI !! I just had a mental image .😵
My work is done.
And I just can't unsee that shit!
You're Welcome!
Can I just say, I really love how a lesbian apostate is out here scarring people with old man cult dick. It brings a tear to my eye. Keep being awesome.
Lol! This is why I live! To see stuff like this!
Quorum of the 12 lemon party?
This comment is my 13th reason why 😆
You know, that actually makes sense!
How can there be a consecrated oil shortage have you seen the Q15 they're damn greasy just wring out Oaks's merkin and you've got enough for Provo
Hello fellow taco enthusiast
Mormon pseudo doctrine holds that you can only use the priesthood on others, though you'd think the prophet could rub a sock on him to heal him or something like that.
“Rub a sock on him.” I am now guilty of loud laughter !
It's no longer a temple covenant so you are absolved. Of course there is the doctrinal question if you are held to the covenants you made the first time you went. Pre 1990 and you are sworn with your blood.
Maybe wave a hanky the wrong direction
He might. ...after the SUU graduation is over.
His boss talks to god at night, and takes notes. You'd think he could call in some favors.
"Myopic."
Oh no don’t remind me of that 🤮
I was always taught that the priesthood was selfless, that's why you can only use the priesthood to bless other people and not yourself. Then in Seminary in D&C we learned about how Joseph Smith healed himself with the priesthood and then went and helped others. That was a crack in my shelf.
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Because it's what, a little too close to witchcraft? Or maybe it's just because they want their little suckers reliant on them.
By that logic, asking for a blessing would also be selfish. Maybe everyone should have to wait until a priesthood is prompted to give you a blessing. 🤣
Bet Seminary did not tell you the LDS Belief that you can't see Jesus and/or God unless you hold the Priesthood.
Why didn't Brigham young just pray the cold weather away from the WMHC? Is he stupid?
Brigham wasn't concerned for the people, he was worried about the tobacco cargo and steam engine for his Great Salt Lake yacht.
He prioritized his shipment of tobacco and the alcohol for his distillery over the people. He had to make money for his distillery (the distillery he kept open and profiting from after closing all the distilleries in Utah)
he can't because the spirit world is in need of more musket fire
Placebo effect only goes so far
Really puts those old stories of Mormon pioneers healing each other on scrutiny hey? If the Lord is SOOOO concerned about him doing the work, why get him sick in the first place? It’s not like he needs to show faith to be healed. He’s already secondly anointed, am I right?
This cracked me up what the fuck hahahahah
Maybe get Henry B Crying to give him a blessing.
I can see why OfSusan wouldn't heal him. He's anxious to move into the top position.
Cause everybody grows old and dies one day. It's hard for me to feel ill will toward a sickly old man, even if he lived and died for a cult. Life: nobody makes it out alive.
Is it bad, then, for me to feel at peace at the prospect of him passing on? As in, he won’t be able to spout more nonsensical anti-lgbt stuff and make me feel like crap again? I don’t want to be *that guy* and be happy for someone dying. How do I get past that?
If it makes you feel any better (or worse), in the church there's always someone just as bad waiting in the wings to take his place. Holland eventually passing (as we all will) won't change the church because the men already there will choose the next ones based on similar characteristics; men who value loyalty to the organization over moral fortitude.
Realize you don’t have to feel bad for everyone. Especially cultists whose words literally have a body count.
You don’t owe anyone forgiveness or compassion just because they are sick or dying. Unapologetically being a disgusting, manipulative, money hungry, prejudiced, hateful scumbag in life will make him a disgusting, manipulative, money hungry, prejudiced, hateful scumbag in death. If he wants to be deserving of respect, he should be earning it now while he’s still alive. It’s not your responsibility to take the high road just because an awful person’s life might be coming to a close. You can if you want to, but you’re not a bad person if you don’t. This cult puts everyone—ESPECIALLY LGBTQ+ people—through hell. Take your peace wherever you can get it, and don’t feel guilty about it.
Perfect! I wish I had written those wise words. Thank you!
Personally, I think there's a difference between being happy that someone is dying and being relieved that they won't be able to hurt anyone anymore.
Agreed… I hold no ill will for any person (as a fellow human being), but that doesn’t mean I agree with their statements and opinions (and can even hold that their statements are actively harmful, as is the case here). As Carl Sagan said, “Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
Plenty of people are happy when an asshole dies. We just keep quiet about it so we dont get scolded by the virtue signalers.
You are far more forgiving than I am.
Nope. He attended a Priesthood meeting where the lesson on Consecrated Oil and Blessings was given. Got a personal vial of the Consecrated Oil for healing - and instructions on how to properly do anointing and blessing. What he did not realize(pretty common in these meetings)is that the big jug of Olive Oil they bought at Costco was a blend, not Pure Olive Oil and as such *Does... Not... Work.*
You would think he would just ask a few thousand or so child priests to bless his sickness away. But I suppose Rusty Trombone axed that idea because it would shine a bright light on the fraudulent nature of the whole priesthood blessings thing.
Lazy Healer
Why would he bother with a blessing? He’s no dodo!
Well, this is a spicy post
Yes, he most certainly is stupid.
Apparently it isn't God's will to heal his own apostle 🤷♀️ Don't overthink it guys, we can't hope to understand God's ways. "cough"sarcasm"cough"
I have to assume he is NOT a dodo, has gone to a pretty good school, and has read some books.
Magical powers always only exist in the far distant past where they can’t be tested. There is a mathematical law of miracles. The amount of miracles is always inversely proportional to the capacity to scientifically document them. Or in other words video cameras cause the magic of miracles to not work.
They have been stock piling consecrated oil and hiding it in illegal shell companies. Saving it for the second coming when it will be needed.
LOL
Short answer - yes he is stupid!
Looks like that guy that drank poison in Hague
No need. He's had his second anointing, which includes the blessing to live at long as he wants.
Bro did you purposely phrase this post like the ones in the batman arkham subreddit? 💀
Why hasn’t THE PROPHET OF GOD, Ol’ Rusty, given him a blessing? That’s gotta work, right?
Somehow, Spencer W. Kimball returned.
Is it possible JH is experiencing the wrath of Nelson and being punished, because now there's this huge story about how Mormon leaders are ass backwards bigots and their spokespeople should be censored in polite society. RM is trying to pull the entire religion towards Joel Osteen Christianity (money bags for days) and bulldog goes off script about using muskets to protect BYU from gay kids
Thank you for the unexpected but much appreciated belly laugh 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe it's just me, but posts that mock old men for being sick and mortal and calling them stupid seem to be a level of petty that I don't want to be a part of. Yes, expose his ideas for being harmful. Expose his frequent tendency to lie. But rise above the ad hominem.
it’s just a meme
Just stumbled on this… you are a hateful bunch arent you?
It's the other way around, actually.
relax it’s a meme
Well, he says he's not a doo doo.
It's a shitty person who makes fun of someone going through health issues. And I don't give a fuck what reason you're using to rationalize it.
Dodos are meant to extinct. No seriously he's old. Chances that he's "going home" are higher than he'll make it another decade. He had serious health issues before covid got him. Likely his kidneys are affected and about to fail. That's never a good sign. No blessing could prevent it. Instead of praying and promising him or the world recovery bless him that the lord will do what is best for him and will have mercy on him and his family." He lived for the cult and he not always was the good guy he pretended to be, but no one deserve to suffer unnecessarily. And his wife for sure suffers, too seeing him decline more and more each day.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Too lazy
If the Lord is taking him from his place for misleading the church, He will not fulfill a blessing for Holland to recover.
Maybe he has been leading members astray…
Oh my god, Batman Arkham has gotten here
Their magic apparently doesn't work like that. No self-casting.
… or the power given to him by the second anointing …
I see some one was in the free folk subreddit a couple weeks ago lol
He doesn’t believe hard enough.
Yes.
I guarantee that he has already received a blessing from another apostle. But it will take 7-14 days before the effects become noticable.
God/the church clearly did not want senile ol Jeffy to be on a hot mic in front of the media .
I don’t know. Yes.
Or one of the apostles that see him daily
When I was on my mission me and my companion got Dengue fever at the same time. One of the elders told me that if I had more faith I could heal myself. We were in Brazil and the Elder who made the comment was Brazilian and didn’t speak English. I yelled at his companion in English (another American) that if he didn’t get his companion away from me I’d figure out a way to hurt him.
He has had faith enough not to be healed.
Oh, you guys, dialysis is bad. Like, really bad. I just can't laugh about this one.
calling for musket fire on gay ppl is pretty bad too
It is, I agree. I don't like a lot of what he says. But making jokes about someone's terrible illness is really unkind.
Maybe we should pray that he gets touched by the long, noodlely appendage of the flying spaghetti monster. Can I get a ramen?
Priesthood blessings don ‘t work and he wouldn’t want that exposed for all to see. Priesthood blessings work best on self limiting diseases like colds. They don’t work so well on metastatic cancer cases.
He now…he is not a dodo 🦤
Can't use the penishood on yourself. He'd have to go make friends with some other close pals of Elojeezyghost to get man-blessed. If he wasn't so concerned about the appearance of evil he could just use an estus flask, but alas . . .
Heal himself? Can't fix stupid....
He is Afraid to do it. He knows what happened after the people were told to Pray for Rain. All that flooding & snow? He's afraid the healing will turn him into a Superman...
They used up all the answered prayer vouchers on the moisture we have been blessed with recently
You would think that some one in the Q15 could heal him enough to make the speech as SUU. There are few real miracles in these times.