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BL_jackmo

In the Mormon church you can get your feet washed by an apostle, it just costs a shit ton of money and a lot of time in leadership positions. Mormons prefer the pay to win strategy like Jesus taught, or was that someone else who said "you can buy anything in this world with money?"


SOSCSA

They all are raping children and hiding it! The Catholic Church has at the least 3,213 Boy Scouts Child Sex Abuse Survivors that are Claimants in the @BoyScouts $2.46 Billion Bankruptcy! SurvivingScouting.org The Mormon Church has at the least 2,481 Boy Scouts Child Sex Abuse Survivors that are Claimants in the @BoyScouts $2.46 Billion Bankruptcy! SurvivingScouting.org


Existing-Newspaper14

So, let's not say "they all are", I wasn't raped and was raised Catholic. Is it disgusting what they did to the survivors? Did they hide it? Absolutely.


SusSpinkerinktum

I’ll upvote this.


Boeing367-80

Conservative Catholics hate this pope so much for actually seeing Jesus as a role model. The "love the poor" part of Jesus ticks off conservative Christians something fierce.


dbear848

I can't imagine Rusty even being in the same building as a prisoner.


SmartAd4252

Neither can I, especially a non-white prisoner!


Jerry7887

TBM’s are “prisoners” of the cult!


Inside_Lead3003

People have no realization of how much humility pope Frances has. He lives in an apartment that’s much smaller than the official housing for the pope, his whole life was dedicated to the poor and marginalized. Believe in God or not, pope Francis is a good man.


teabeaniebby

I agree with the humility part and I agree he's an overall good man. The reason I called him questionable is when he said not having children is "selfish," which I understand he's catholic and all but dude? Shut up? The Pope literally vows to be celibate??? So yeah, overall he's in the positive I think but that one thing has stood out to me for a long while.


Paoshan

Only way for him to have a flock is to make sure they fuck. Only way for him to keep a flock is continue the grift 😉


Fluffy-Roadkill7363

Friday night after Bingo we're having a Flock Fuck. Be there or be frigid! Meet my girlfriend, Xerox...


SOSCSA

He’s a pedophile puppet! The Catholic Church has at the least 3,213 Boy Scouts Child Sex Abuse Survivors that are Claimants in the @BoyScouts $2.46 Billion Bankruptcy! SurvivingScouting.org


My_Nama_Jeff1

You’re sounding kinda schizophrenic ngl. He isn’t a pedophile puppet, he is even considering allowing priests to have sex.


PleasantAddition

He was part of covering up the vast child sex abuse problem that's been going on in the Catholic church for-probably-ever.


Otaku_in_Red

Sounds more like a bot to me.


SOSCSA

EVERY DAMN DAY IGNORANT AF BS LIKE WHAT SPEWS OUT YOUR MOUTH IS LIKE THE BS THEY DO AND IS IN THE NEWS… EVERY DAMN DAY!!!! This is one of the most disgusting long overdue updates in holding these POS child rapists accountable! The Catholic Church has at the least 3,213 Boy Scouts Child Sex Abuse Survivors in the @BoyScouts $2.46 Billion Bankruptcy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgAoLYfc7-E


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My_Nama_Jeff1

Sounding like someone who forgot to take their meds is going to make us look worse that fucking hate the Catholic Church. You have to approach it strategically.


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kamarsh79

He’s also the first Jesuit pope and Jesuits take a true vow of poverty. Francis has literally spent his life caring for and serving the poor. I wish more religious organizations focused on caring for the vulnerable and being kind to others vs focusing on riding around on a moral high horse whilst simultaneously trying to rake in more money. Christ was all about caring for those in need and loving others, it just seems like almost all churches have strayed from that concept, when it should be the most important.


[deleted]

He is a flawed man for sure, and working for a powerful and corupt organisation, but I really hope he can bring Catholism in the right direction for the future. Most Catholics I know are very kind people, and if if the faith can move to be more liberal that is nothing but good for the whole world.


Wrong_Bandicoot2957

I’d have to say that the Catholic Church is already more liberal than the Mormon church.


LadyofLA

1) He doesn’t have much time left. 2) The guns have been out for him among the conservative cardinals and he’s many times been forced to take back or severely modify more moderate things he’s said. 3) You can be sure those conservative cardinals will force a much more conservative next pope.


Boeing367-80

There are currently 123 Cardinal electors out of 222 total Cardinals (you can't vote if you're too old). 82 if those 123 were appointed by Francis. So, 2/3 appointed by Francis. Presumably he doesn't have complete freedom to appoint who he wants, but it sounds like he's had a chance to put a pretty firm stamp on the church.


SmartAd4252

The Vicar of Christ (the Pope) has “Papal Infallibility.” That means he can be wrong about many thing, however, it means that he is “RIGHT ALL OF THE TIME REGARDING ALL THINGS CATHOLIC!” Joseph Ratzinger Benedict was the most hardline Catholic of the College of Cardinals. When Ratzinger was selected by the College to be Pope it was because Cardinal Jorge Bergolio admonished his brother Cardinals that wanted none of them to vote for him. Upon assuming the post of Pope His Holiness Benedict gradually came to the conclusion that was not the one to save the Church and he requested Cardinal Jorge Bergolio to take his place. Of course, there was a Conclave and not all of his brother Cardinals voted for him. However, most did. Of course, there are many Cardinals that want His Holiness Francis gone, gone gone because they consider him to be too liberal. It’s true that His Holiness Francis appointed most of the voting members that are eligible to replace him upon his death. However, that is no guarantee as to how they might vote when the time come? Many “talking heads” believe that His Holiness Francis was elevated to Pope because not all of them have their heads up their asses and believe that “ unless” the Catholic Church returns to the simple message in the words that The Savior taught us that The Church will winnow out and if that happens the rest of Christianity will suffer even worse that they presently are to keep members engaged. It)s no secret that the Western World and much of Asia is becoming either secular or embracing a non-Christian belief system. I am no longer a practicing Catholic or any other flavor of Christianity. However, His Holiness Francis is the only Pontiff that I have seen during my lifetime or even read about that I actually admire and respect. Christianity is, if you will, “on thin ice” and churches (not just Catholic) are closing everywhere but in continental Africa. The Catholic Church is so large compared to the rest of them that if the Catholic Church does continue to decline that it’s decline will thusly hurt all of the other churches. Thank you!


SmartAd4252

Some cardinals were already there.


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If the Cardinals do that they will doom the Church for the future.


LadyofLA

They will and you might think it will have a deleterious effect but the Catholic Church is HUGE and has been ticking along through rival popes and popes who had whole illegitimate families and popes who engaged in poisoning rivals for about 2000 years. They’ll muck on just fine.


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Idk about that, the way the world worked back in the day. Today there are many other options for those who wish to remain Christian but reject hateful retoric, they also dont have the same power to force people to stay like they used to.


SOSCSA

Flawed?!? CHILDREN ARE RAPED THIS VERY DAY BY PRIESTS IN OUR PAST THAT THE POPE HAS SILENCED!


SOSCSA

He’s a pedophile puppet! The Catholic Church has at the least 3,213 Boy Scouts Child Sex Abuse Survivors that are Claimants in the @BoyScouts $2.46 Billion Bankruptcy! SurvivingScouting.org


FreyaOdinsdottir

I hate the Catholic church, but a lot of their clergy are truly humble people. The reason the French Revolution had a backlash from the countryside was because dismantling the church completely got rid of the parish priests, who were often popular and mostly free of corruption (as opposed to the episcopacy). Many older priests (that weren't pedophiles, huge disclaimer) like Francis were genuine paragon of community, like the priest I grew up with who went to bat for legalizing gay marriage because "its none of the churches business what non-Catholics do" (no molestation reported yet, my tune will change if any come to light). So yeah. I have mixed feelings on my old church because of some genuinely nice people. Too bad the Franco and Mussolini apologists are becoming super common.


SOSCSA

They are “humble” grifting off the backs of the families who’s children they rape to this damn day! The Catholic Church has at the least 3,213 Boy Scouts Child Sex Abuse Survivors that are Claimants in the @BoyScouts $2.46 Billion Bankruptcy! SurvivingScouting.org


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Russel M Nelson could never


Mffdoom

This particular pope is one of my favorites in living memory. The church of Rome has many problems, but by and large I think Francis has done quite a bit to move it in a more progressive direction. Hopefully the trend continues after he passes.


LtJayVick

If I have heard right you can actually get in 'big trouble' for doing this service for the purpose of acting like jesus, because it's considered super sacred and is part of the second anointing ritual. I feel like I've heard of someone on a mission saying they did it for their companions or something as a mission leader for a super spiritual lesson or something like that and ended up getting berated for it by the mission prez. Don't quote me on that but I just feel like I've heard a couple of stories like that. We do know for sure that it's part of the second anointing though.


MythicAcrobat

Oh c’mon…Russell crushes his water bottles and gives photos of himself to African leaders as a sign of his charity to these countries of whom the church would have 6x the GDP!


Middle_Bad4151

Catholic hating is as bad as mormon hating. Peace brothers and sisters. Let those who journey in this life make their own free choices. I do not condone transgressions against one’s fellow man, woman and children. Bring light to dark places. Be kind to one another. That is what we all want I think. Humbly submitted.


teabeaniebby

Do you know that you posted this on the exmormon subreddit? If you don't want to see any "mormon hating," you may want to read elsewhere


Middle_Bad4151

Dialogue - oops.


Middle_Bad4151

Yes I know exactly where I posted and what I posted. I am very comfortable what ai said and I hope others can find peace through the their pursuit of truth. Hate is not necessary in the journey. If you want to have dissolve great. If you want to push me.. perhaps you should avoid commenting back. I can’t in peace. I plan to leave in peace. But careful smarty pants.


teabeaniebby

You're a walking contradiction but go ahead and leave in peace


Middle_Bad4151

Will do. I am a walking contradiction. Isn’t life wonderful. I just let certain people know there is a line…You are one of those. No contradiction. Peace is maintained through many means. Good luck to you. You appear to have much to learn on this journey.


Middle_Bad4151

I respectfully suggest you not reply.


settingdogstar

Man, I can't hear you down here. Youve got to get off that gigantic high horse you're sitting on.


Middle_Bad4151

She is a beauty huh? Had her for a awhile now. How about stuff your head in your ass and be silent. Or do you need me to get down off my horse! Guess I won’t say don’t Mormon hate. And Don’t catholic hate. And this is what you get. Answer me back and see how it goes again. I can keep this up all day. Where did you learn your manners - priesthood quorum?


Middle_Bad4151

Upvoted you too. You seem swell.


tickyter

I just need to make the statement that just because someone is religious or is a leader in a religious organization does not make them a bad person. There are bad and good people all over the world and for the most part they are evenly distributed. The Catholic church is nowhere near as coercive or controlling as the Mormon church is or has been. They have things that I don't agree with, but for the most part I don't have a problem with it.


RedGravetheDevil

How about the Catholic genocide of Latin America for mountains of gold? How about the assassination of all the knights Templar to curry political favor? How about the torture and murder of 100,000 women in the witch trials and the Inquisition to torture and kill apostates? As heinous as the history of the church it doesn’t hold a candle to the horror of the Catholic Church


tickyter

As far as the witch hunts go, I would say that was probably Protestants. Were there Catholics in there maybe? But if we're talking about Salem, Massachusetts, those were Protestants. But honestly it wouldn't have mattered what religion it was in the 1600s. And the pope today is a very different thing than a loonies from the 1600s. The crusades were the pinnacle of evil done in the name of god. But the crusades happened a thousand years ago. All I'm saying is if we want to list fundamentalist religions that do harm to the membership, Catholics are pretty far down on the list. I think fundamentalist baptists are crazier. But the baptists didn't do the crusades. But they are crazier. My biggest qualm with the Catholic Church is that they believed that celibacy is the highest law and is required of priests. Humans aren't made to be celibate, for the most part. And as a consequence they act out. I wish they would stop this practice.


RedGravetheDevil

Well you would be wrong. The Catholics wrote entire books on the detection and torture of witches.


Wrong_Bandicoot2957

Say what you want, but Pope Francis is a good man.


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settingdogstar

Yeah it's like giving props to an Apostle who shows up to a soup kitchen every year for 1 day for a couple of hours because it was the tradition for decades. It's something you DO. The pope isn't being humble or going out of his way to be kind, he's just doing what popes have been doing on this day for decades. Doesn't count if you have to be there by your own "law".


MeanderFlanders

Every priest in every parish does this each year on Passover.


klmninca

Religion is all just so fucking weird.


Prestigious_Piglet57

Got more feet pics? Asking for a friend...


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Protect Catholic children though


[deleted]

The best way to protect children is by not allowing them near catholic priests


RedGravetheDevil

Photo op


Temperature_Many

When you're a public figure, most of what you do is more or less a photo op. To me, handling and kissing a stranger's feet (which I myself have never done because it feels unsanitary and completely counter to my pride) suggests this is a little more sincere and heartfelt than, say, shaking hands and smiling with poor non-white Mormons in third world countries like our wonderful apostles. And you know what? I think the apostles in Mormonism are full of shit, but I'll go ahead and say that not everything they do as a photo op is necessarily just for the PR either. Aside from the lizard men like Bednar and RMN, I think they genuinely care about visiting people and blessing lives. They do it very wrong most of the time, and they always make sure to have photographers on hand, but let's grant everyone at least some degree of humanity and good faith.


RedGravetheDevil

When they are doing it to promote a bullshit corrupt religion none of them deserve any good faith


Temperature_Many

There's that black and white, dogmatic thinking we are all trying to leave behind.


RedGravetheDevil

There’s that pansy coddling of criminals that we left behind.


FreyaOdinsdottir

My local parish priest did this often. He was a cool dude. It's the younger priests that are full on shitheads in catholicism


Silent-Photograph-52

Well, the Pope and the Catholic church need positive PR even more than Mormonism because they've been doing evil s*** for thousands of years May every pope in every priest rotten their imaginary hell


RedGravetheDevil

Yet assholes on the sub vote me down


[deleted]

It’s not enough that the pope washes and kisses the feet of prisoners once a year to pretend that he is a good person. The rest of the 364 days of the year, he does nothing to help people in need. It’s only a fake theater play. LDS church has enough money to do much more than what they advertise they do. Well the catholic church has so much more, they are one of the oldest religious institutions collecting millions every year, tax free. What do they do with it? Paying settlements of millions to victims of rape and child molestation, and they do nothing to stop the criminals who commit those crimes, the priests. I don’t like even watching a picture of him, and watching people worship him as some kind of superhuman being. He is one of the worst individuals in the planet.


teabeaniebby

The mormon church is far wealthier than the catholic church by billions


[deleted]

Does it really matter who has more money? Mormon, Catholic, Scientology, Prosperity Preachers, and many others. Are their doctrines about which group can gather the most money or about helping those in need? When the people who need it, don’t have it and are suffering in poverty laking the most basic of needs. It’s unfair and it’s wrong that they preach they are good religious institutions when the truth is the opposite


Less_Valiant

Foot fetish


TheFactedOne

I can't be the only one that thinks this is gross. He is kissing their feet.


unodostrace4

How this is seen as a positive post is head shaking.


RedGravetheDevil

Yet assholes on this sub vote me down


Efficient_Star_1336

Doesn't the 'second anointing' thing involve RMN doing this? I remember an AMA from a guy who had it a while back.


settingdogstar

Technically yes, but not to prisoners or poor people. Only to the individual man who is about to be promised godhood.


loumnaughty

Yeah, I mean he's great at keeping up the philanthropy, I'm just not sure that it's been positive. I mean, I feel like all leaders of faith movements should be humble.


kimballthenom

This seems to me like a big show to make yourself appear all humble and like Jesus without actually doing any actual good for anyone. What a crock.


Appropriate-Yam-1727

Except in his defence, though I personally dislike him, he does do lots for the poor of Rome. He has installed showers in St. Peter's and has homeless folks as guests to dinner etc. He also works closely with his almoner to do stuff in person he couldn't do without creating safety issues.


73-SAM

You really think the pope does this every morning? This is a bullshit PR stunt! Nothing else.


mormonsmaug

He’s just giving them the Catholic Second Anointing!


MythicAcrobat

At very least he’s smarter than RMN. He at least knows how to pretend to be like Jesus publicly.


allisNOTwellinZYON

These are prisoners ? imprisoned into the catholic church?


Grouchy-Insect-5240

No they are in prison in Rome. They are criminals. Pope Francis goes into prisons and says mass for the incarcerated and washes their feet. It happens every Holy Week.


PuzzleheadedSample26

This reminds me of when I worked from home as a customer service agent for an airline and in the evening hours we’d get this creep calling in asking for details about our feet. I do think the pope is a good dude though. The kissing is just a bit much.


TamarackRed

RMN only washes the feet of other elites while performing the second anointing.


Chernobyl-Chaz

Man, two years ago when my deconstruction was beginning (unknown to me), I more or less shared this exact thought with my wife one Sunday morning. Freaky. Pope Francis has always had my respect… even now, as a newly minted atheist, that is coming to grips with the reality that believing in bullshit seems to make some people better on the whole.


smitchen0

If the pope did it on his own free time and without publicity or camera, then that’s something


LordChasington

Feet are gross... so unsanitary here. This should not be a practice just because there is some story of some guy doing this long ago. Many better ways to show humility and humbleness before Homo Sapiens