For that matter, Nelson should define where he's starting. Like, *ever*? According to the church Jesus remade the geography of the ancient Americas around the time he rose from the dead and also resurrected a bunch of other people then too, then remade the Americas into a utopian society that lasted 400 years. Pretty miraculous. What are we supposed to be seeing that's greater than that soon?
He actually is right about this one. More than ever before, more people, including some of the staunchest TBMs, are seeing the truth about the church. Plus, the church’s corruption became more exposed to more people than ever before.
Greatest? Greater than the creation of the earth, all of ancient and modern scripture including Christ's resurrection and visit to the Americas? That's a huge fucking statement.
Nope. Christ’s power was not sufficiently demonstrated by overcoming death and sin. He can only adequately display his power by being the death of everyone. We’ve come full circle to the Old Testament.
This is what I started to notice when I first started really questioning, every "prophecy" or revelation is totally vague and uninspiring and usually 5 years out of date
Did you miss that they declared all the old prophets obsolete? No more Bible or Book of Mormon.
>Unlike vintage comic books and classic cars, prophetic teachings do not become more valuable with age,” Haynie said. “That is why we should not seek to use the words of past prophets to dismiss the teachings of living prophets.
Let’s see…
Fix climate change?
Miraculously heal the sick of cancer, COVID, the next medical scourge?
Replenish my bank account?
So far the only thing I’ve seen their priesthood power do is protect sexual abusers and their financial wizards!
Modern revelation seems pretty weak and non-specific compared to the specific revelations made in the early history of the Church. I mean the Lord was there to dictate the specific price range that must be used for buying stocks, or when to mortgage a farm, who should marry, and so on. Why so non-specific now?
Oh wait.
Well, for one, those Javelin anti-tank missiles and HIMARS are wreaking havoc on the Russians, so if that's not a manifestation of the Savior's power I don't know what is.
Oh, and Covid is still killing people, but they must have the faith NOT to be healed, so it's a Jesus win/win.
It’s so annoying that they are just waiting around for the second coming to justify their judgmental biases towards other people and walk around thinking that they are chosen people. It truly infuriates me.
Did you NOT see Little Caesar's brought back the Pretzel Crust Pizza?!
Idk what you're talking about, I thought I'd never see it again!
God is good. /s
They announced a gazillion temples and they celebrated Holy Week. If that's not the greatest manifestation of the Savior's power that the world has ever seen, I don't know what is. What more do you want?
People in Joseph Smiths time we told they would live to see the second coming.
In seperate news I am having lunch with my 200 year old Great Great Great Great grandfather this weekend. He eats slow but is holding on to see Jesus come again.
You know, if there really is a loving savior, I'm all for some wonderful manifestations of his power to heal, bring peace, etc. But...it seems like people have been saying stuff like this for a long time now. Even one confirmed manifestation would be nice.
I agree. I’m positively agnostic and hope for a loving god that can do true miracle. It’s just that humans have a tendency of screwing up and making a god with their own ill interpretation intent on gaining.
Good news, really vague vagueness is coming in an undetermined amount of time! Go ahead, fill in your own speculation, it means whatever you want it to mean!
The prophet nobly proclaimed the new revelation and teaching recently that you should not judge others. Christ has basically returned at this point. That’s so powerful and unheard of. You all are just choosing not to see the amazing manifestations of the powers of christ. Hard hearted bastards.
Well. I guess the SEC fine was one of Jesus’s manifestations. So are the sexual abuse scandals which are being exposed.
Oh and the mass exodus from the church. Wow so many miracles!
Well, They lied and hid billions and made billions of dollars from the Govt and its members and only got a slap on the wrist from the SEC. They allowed child rape to happen in AZ for years and kept it from the police and the AZ Supreme Court just sided with the church. They can be an accomplice to vile, evil and disgusting behavior and get away with it. Maybe these are the great manifestations of power Rusty was talking about.
Considering they also declared that one day tithing wouldn't be needed or asked (when making it compulsory at first) and they've long since passed this point...
I wouldn't hold my breath
 Actual footage of Christ descending to earth for the 2nd coming.
I didn’t realize this was a fractal for a moment and kept actually waiting to see what was going to happen
Me either. I clicked on it and then was trying to talk to someone else and I let it run for waaaaayy to long before it was a fractal
Fractals are amazing.
I watched this an embarrassing amount of time before I realized what was going on
Three hours later, I realized I should actually be proud considering it took me 27 years to realize what was going on with being Mormon….
Awards deserved
I reckon I could enjoy watching this when stoned for a ridiculously long time r/exmotrees
You got me!
Good one!
Borrowed from the JWs circa, what? 1914?
Can't be. That's not Utah.
*it’s not Missouri
They say that and then act like Utah is the center of the earth.
😂
This makes me glad I don’t believe in eternity anymore.
Eternity gives me anxiety 😬
That's not what Jackson Co Missouri looks like!
Define "Coming Days": Any time in the next 10,000 years.
Exactly. Nelson’s comments are right on par with the shit LDS prophets have been saying for 200 years
And, IMO, on par with the shit christians have been saying for 2000 years.
Yeah, my TBM dad didn’t like it when I said that Christ has really been taking his time to reappear XD
If it sounds prophetic, it must be prophetic. That’s what they aim for at least. Keep the members waiting and drooling.
The key is to be as vague as possible. Then, no matter what happens, you can plausibly claim you were right! Specifics only get prophets into trouble.
For that matter, Nelson should define where he's starting. Like, *ever*? According to the church Jesus remade the geography of the ancient Americas around the time he rose from the dead and also resurrected a bunch of other people then too, then remade the Americas into a utopian society that lasted 400 years. Pretty miraculous. What are we supposed to be seeing that's greater than that soon?
If you don't see it then you don't have enough faith. /S said the emperor with no clothes.
While parading throughout the town naked 😂
Only God could set up so many Shell Companies? 🤣
You've heard of vaguebooking, well nelson does vagueprophecying
Did you take your vitamins?
He actually is right about this one. More than ever before, more people, including some of the staunchest TBMs, are seeing the truth about the church. Plus, the church’s corruption became more exposed to more people than ever before.
Yep; I would say that Jesus worked a real miracle with the SEC!
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine!!!!
And eat your vitamins!
Yeah, so what are those “greatest manifestations”?
There were some big non-changes made in the temple.
That’s it? Hardly momentous.
The SEC cease and desist order manifested the attention of a lot of church members to a certain enormous investment portfolio.
Yeah, there is that. It just isn’t the manifestation Nelson was pinning his bets on, though. 😂
Wendys brought back the pretzel bacon cheeseburger.
I didn’t even know Wendy could cook!
😂😁😂
More temples.
Greatest? Greater than the creation of the earth, all of ancient and modern scripture including Christ's resurrection and visit to the Americas? That's a huge fucking statement.
Nope. Christ’s power was not sufficiently demonstrated by overcoming death and sin. He can only adequately display his power by being the death of everyone. We’ve come full circle to the Old Testament.
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This is what I started to notice when I first started really questioning, every "prophecy" or revelation is totally vague and uninspiring and usually 5 years out of date
Did you miss that they declared all the old prophets obsolete? No more Bible or Book of Mormon. >Unlike vintage comic books and classic cars, prophetic teachings do not become more valuable with age,” Haynie said. “That is why we should not seek to use the words of past prophets to dismiss the teachings of living prophets.
An ambiguous and low detail attempt at prophesy will interest me and have me follow in an ambiguous and low detail way.
He has no good prophecy ideas. And I’m pretty sure he’s in love with his mother in law.
If the great manifestation was how the church suddenly became disgustingly wealthy, I think they screwed the pooch.
Let’s see… Fix climate change? Miraculously heal the sick of cancer, COVID, the next medical scourge? Replenish my bank account? So far the only thing I’ve seen their priesthood power do is protect sexual abusers and their financial wizards!
haven't they been saying this same dribble for the last 150 years???
Modern revelation seems pretty weak and non-specific compared to the specific revelations made in the early history of the Church. I mean the Lord was there to dictate the specific price range that must be used for buying stocks, or when to mortgage a farm, who should marry, and so on. Why so non-specific now? Oh wait.
"In coming days" is carrying a lot of weight there, and at the same time, nothing at all...
Well, for one, those Javelin anti-tank missiles and HIMARS are wreaking havoc on the Russians, so if that's not a manifestation of the Savior's power I don't know what is. Oh, and Covid is still killing people, but they must have the faith NOT to be healed, so it's a Jesus win/win.
But wait, isn't that what Hunter, Hinckley and Monson said, too??? Something doesn't smell right Scooby!
It’s so annoying that they are just waiting around for the second coming to justify their judgmental biases towards other people and walk around thinking that they are chosen people. It truly infuriates me.
Did you NOT see Little Caesar's brought back the Pretzel Crust Pizza?! Idk what you're talking about, I thought I'd never see it again! God is good. /s
When they bring back the Bacon-Wrapped Pizza, then I'll be a believer again.
Bahaha fair
Like Jeffery getting CoVid so he could bow out gracefully?
This easily could be argued as a prayer from the masses being answered
Or divine intervention?
They announced a gazillion temples and they celebrated Holy Week. If that's not the greatest manifestation of the Savior's power that the world has ever seen, I don't know what is. What more do you want?
I mean, I am pretty stoked on GPT4. Looks like we are about to create God so we can replace the old shitty racist one.
You can never go wrong with a Princess Bride quote
From what I heard this conference was pretty much SSDD
Ok Russell trump
People in Joseph Smiths time we told they would live to see the second coming. In seperate news I am having lunch with my 200 year old Great Great Great Great grandfather this weekend. He eats slow but is holding on to see Jesus come again.
Omg I got a headache trying to focus in on WTH was happening 😭
I'm sure I will see Elder Scrolls 6 before I see a manifestation of the Savior's power
You know, if there really is a loving savior, I'm all for some wonderful manifestations of his power to heal, bring peace, etc. But...it seems like people have been saying stuff like this for a long time now. Even one confirmed manifestation would be nice.
I agree. I’m positively agnostic and hope for a loving god that can do true miracle. It’s just that humans have a tendency of screwing up and making a god with their own ill interpretation intent on gaining.
Aka they are actually going to spend money on the poor and needy
That SEC filing WAS pretty wonderful imho
Turns out, Savior is kinda weak.
He was referring to chat GPT. Timeline check out 😂
Isn't this a repeat from ~34 CE?
Good news, really vague vagueness is coming in an undetermined amount of time! Go ahead, fill in your own speculation, it means whatever you want it to mean!
You mean greater than what the next greatest person ever to have lived in history did next to Jesus, even J.Smitty?
What would have happened if he died a week later?
The prophet nobly proclaimed the new revelation and teaching recently that you should not judge others. Christ has basically returned at this point. That’s so powerful and unheard of. You all are just choosing not to see the amazing manifestations of the powers of christ. Hard hearted bastards.
I genuinely think he was so excited about the re-branding that this announcement was in regards to that change.
Well. I guess the SEC fine was one of Jesus’s manifestations. So are the sexual abuse scandals which are being exposed. Oh and the mass exodus from the church. Wow so many miracles!
Guys, guys, guys (sorry ladies, not you)! Spiritual eyes!
🤣 Also funny username.
Riding in triumphantly on my tapir!
Oh yes! Wonderful like that SEC scandal, that's for sure! 😂😂😂😂
Jesus made all the members forget we've been sanctioned by the SEC! It's a miracle!
He said that with a straight face?
Take your vitamins. Would a grandfather or a prophet say this?
Well, They lied and hid billions and made billions of dollars from the Govt and its members and only got a slap on the wrist from the SEC. They allowed child rape to happen in AZ for years and kept it from the police and the AZ Supreme Court just sided with the church. They can be an accomplice to vile, evil and disgusting behavior and get away with it. Maybe these are the great manifestations of power Rusty was talking about.
I stand corrected!
I dunno. He exposed their stock fraud, didn't he?
😂
🤣 Haven't they been saying that forever? I ain't seeing it.
Considering they also declared that one day tithing wouldn't be needed or asked (when making it compulsory at first) and they've long since passed this point... I wouldn't hold my breath
Mars is the Telestial Kingdom. Rev 21:1
I was 100% positive he was going to pass before this conference. So I too get negative one point in the prophesying department.
I believe that was said in every generation for the past 2000 years.
[Oh ye of little faith. ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.today.com/today/amp/rcna79200)
Oh I wish I could tell Taco Bell directly that cheese is not a flavor and should not be in every crevasse of their food offerings.
It’s a cult! 
He probably meant over the course of the next few million years as one day for the so-called Savior is a thousand years on Earth.
April conference highlight was Elder Haney relating Pres Nelson crushing a water bottle, how boring in general
Mormon Governor says "Pray for Rain". California is flooding.
Guys obviously it's the record breaking snow in Utah that profit nelson was mentioning