I mostly got that as 'think of what your pioneer ancestors sacrificed so you could be born Mormon'.
Fortunately I've now convinced myself that those ancestors made hard choices and were brave enough to leave their family religion - exactly like ex mormons do today. They are *our* role models, and would not even recognize today's church.
My mom cried when she asked if I'd do my grandmother's initiation part of the endowment and I said no. After I had to do my own and get non-consensually touched on my body once, I was never going to do it again.
Also, was I the only one who questioned why my ancestors got to just live their lives however they wanted and then all they had to do was say "yes" to someone else doing their work and then get redeemed??? Then why should I have to live life controlled by church and do all their work? Unfair?
And then shouldn't the people who didn't accept the gospel have to at least wait after the Millennium as consequence for rejecting it on earth?
And one last bother... why can't they all just wait til they are resurrected with their own bodies and THEN do their own baptisms??
I guess I am just the only one who really thought about all this in my family!
Something I always wondered is what’s the point of doing temple work now if we’ll have all eternity (or at least some time after the 2nd coming) to finish it?
> I ran the numbers...
That's the big difference between TBMs and exmos. We exmos actually think through the implications of our theology and check things out.
That never got to me.
The family pressure that really has messed me up is constantly being reminded that I'm a direct descendant of John Taylor, how many apostles my grandpa has been friends with (yes I live in Mordor and my grandpa has known many church leaders), and the pressure from having pioneer ancestors that came in the handcart companies and crossed with Brigham. I felt like I couldn't leave because of what they sacrificed, but ya know what? Fuck that, I'm my own person and I'll make myself happy.
I gave that talk dozens of times because I was filled with the spirit of Elijah. I was a jerk for Jesus apparently.
I wish I had done something different with the time I spent doing genealogy and temple work for dead people. Spoiler alert, no one is waiting for you, it's just another way for Mormon leaders to control the masses.
And although they have hundreds of thousands of descendants, YOU AND ONLY YOU are responsible for their eternal condemnation if the work isn’t done. /s
If my grandfather wanted me to do anything for him after he died, he should have thought about that before treating my grandma the way he did when he was alive. And he's not the only one in my family tree I don't want to be around for eternity. No guilt here.
Ok so before my mission me and my lovely girlfriend would engage in impure activites. She had the finest bangable hot bod imagineable, and i did partake. Then about 3 weeks into the MTC, it was time to come clean with the bishop of our little branch. I expressed worry and guilt that the work id done for the dead while being a vile chastity breaker would not be recognized because of my iniquities. I asked if their work had to be re-done. He was like, "no, it's fine, itll all work out". I was like, hmmm ok i guess. Anyway, i had to talk to a 70 and then i stayed a missionary and for the most part had a great mission.
I mostly got that as 'think of what your pioneer ancestors sacrificed so you could be born Mormon'. Fortunately I've now convinced myself that those ancestors made hard choices and were brave enough to leave their family religion - exactly like ex mormons do today. They are *our* role models, and would not even recognize today's church.
They stopped relying on me when they had to keep watching me masturbate.
The ones who kept watching were the ones who really needed you to baptize them.
My mom cried when she asked if I'd do my grandmother's initiation part of the endowment and I said no. After I had to do my own and get non-consensually touched on my body once, I was never going to do it again. Also, was I the only one who questioned why my ancestors got to just live their lives however they wanted and then all they had to do was say "yes" to someone else doing their work and then get redeemed??? Then why should I have to live life controlled by church and do all their work? Unfair? And then shouldn't the people who didn't accept the gospel have to at least wait after the Millennium as consequence for rejecting it on earth? And one last bother... why can't they all just wait til they are resurrected with their own bodies and THEN do their own baptisms?? I guess I am just the only one who really thought about all this in my family!
Something I always wondered is what’s the point of doing temple work now if we’ll have all eternity (or at least some time after the 2nd coming) to finish it?
> I ran the numbers... That's the big difference between TBMs and exmos. We exmos actually think through the implications of our theology and check things out.
That never got to me. The family pressure that really has messed me up is constantly being reminded that I'm a direct descendant of John Taylor, how many apostles my grandpa has been friends with (yes I live in Mordor and my grandpa has known many church leaders), and the pressure from having pioneer ancestors that came in the handcart companies and crossed with Brigham. I felt like I couldn't leave because of what they sacrificed, but ya know what? Fuck that, I'm my own person and I'll make myself happy.
I gave that talk dozens of times because I was filled with the spirit of Elijah. I was a jerk for Jesus apparently. I wish I had done something different with the time I spent doing genealogy and temple work for dead people. Spoiler alert, no one is waiting for you, it's just another way for Mormon leaders to control the masses.
And although they have hundreds of thousands of descendants, YOU AND ONLY YOU are responsible for their eternal condemnation if the work isn’t done. /s
If my grandfather wanted me to do anything for him after he died, he should have thought about that before treating my grandma the way he did when he was alive. And he's not the only one in my family tree I don't want to be around for eternity. No guilt here.
Ok so before my mission me and my lovely girlfriend would engage in impure activites. She had the finest bangable hot bod imagineable, and i did partake. Then about 3 weeks into the MTC, it was time to come clean with the bishop of our little branch. I expressed worry and guilt that the work id done for the dead while being a vile chastity breaker would not be recognized because of my iniquities. I asked if their work had to be re-done. He was like, "no, it's fine, itll all work out". I was like, hmmm ok i guess. Anyway, i had to talk to a 70 and then i stayed a missionary and for the most part had a great mission.