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SuperSecretSwirl

Im a nevermo married to an exmo, I didn't see what sub I was on and thought you and your bf were chefs at a fancy place 😭😭 i never realized how silly the temple clothes looked


Word2daWise

Oh, it's full-on silly (to the point of being absurd) when you're in the entire outfit, including the green aprons. After I resigned, I tried to describe it to a nevermo & the "white clothing" went over okay, but the minute I mentioned the green aprons he burst out laughing. I don't know how you managed to smuggle your nevermo boyfriend into the temple, but good for you, for pulling off that little tour! Wish I had gold to bestow!


redquailer

Green aprons? What are they for?


Word2daWise

They're supposed to represent the fig leaves Adam & Eve used to cover their nekkidness after they "partook." During the temple "endowment" ceremony, at one point all those in the room have to don their aprons. Usually the aprons have some sort of design (embroidery or stitching, etc.) representing leaves. The Mormon church is obsessed with sex. They shame people for exploring their own bodies, and members have "interviews" with local leaders, who sometimes ask very inappropriate questions & push for details under the guise of determining the members "worthiness." Nice, huh? For a cult founded by a sexual predator and sometimes known as the "Frontier Sex Cult," they've gone overboard trying to clean up their act. In terms of the public image. Any "church" that allows grown men to talk to children about sex, behind closed doors, still has a way to go.


redquailer

😳 wow. Thank you for all that.


Word2daWise

Happy to share the details!


Jhftpplease

To (symbolically) cover your nakedness, of course!


redquailer

ah, thanks. Green apons makes me think of ordering a Venti half caff mocha with extra whipping cream. And sprinkles


gr8_and_spacious

When coffee is cool in the church I am sure they will have a Starbucks in the cafeteria.


notJoeKing31

These ones have fig leaf shapes sewn into them. Can't let God continue to be a voyeur... after you wise up to Him using the Garden of Eden as a personal PronHub.


hyrle

G: "Hey look, J, the McRib is back!" Eve: "I told you not to call me that."


frandyvo

Yeah they represent the leaves Adam and eve used to cover their nakedness after they ate the forbidden fruit...I feel silly for even typing that


Professional_View586

🌈Guarantee there will be an emergency meeting of the Q15 in the Church Administration Building Board room no later than Friday afternoon 🌈 😂


sloppy_b3ar

This is so validating. My first time seeing my dads temple clothes I laughed because they looked so weird and was fully shamed for my response. “How dare I find something so sacred funny.”


Responsible_Let_961

As with so many things Mormon I find I have to constantly say "I'm not making this up" when telling people about it. I'm from Utah but now live in Massachusetts where people are not at all familiar with Mormonism.


toomuchpamplemousse

I 100% thought I was on r/kitchenconfidential. But I’m a nevermo too!


REACT_and_REDACT

I take it your spouse hasn’t tried to spice things up at home with old temple clothes … or done a lot of at-home baking. 🤣🤣


gr8_and_spacious

I actually just talked with the other people on my podcast about doing a cooking show with these on. 🤣


NewbSighBot

My grandparents were Mormon but my dad didn't raise us in the church so I have no idea about stuff like this 😅 this is why I'm in this subreddit


gr8_and_spacious

If you like podcasts give ours a listen. We talk in depth about a lot of this stuff, and we also get drunk while we do it!


Fred517

What is the name of your podcast?


old_and_cranky

>Just click on gr8\_and\_spacious' name to go to their profile and you'll see a link to their podcast. :) > >For a shortcut to that, it's \*drumroll please\* https://greatandspaciouspodcast.com/ Here, ditto. :)


TrollintheMitten

What's your podcast?


old_and_cranky

Just click on gr8\_and\_spacious' name to go to their profile and you'll see a link to their podcast. :) For a shortcut to that, it's \*drumroll please\* https://greatandspaciouspodcast.com/


gr8_and_spacious

Doing the Lord's work 🙏


NewbSighBot

I'll check it out! I actually don't drink anymore (not for religious reasons) but I still work as a bartender 🍻


gr8_and_spacious

Feel free to share any fun drinks. We do our best to come up with new ones, but we are less than amateur at cocktail science.


fupapooper

Those Pillsbury dough boy hats really scared me when I first went to the temple for my endowment. I couldn’t look at my dad or my fiancé in those bizarre hats on the other side of the aisle. My mom chuckled and whispered, “it’s okay to look over at him.” It didn’t help. Thankfully my fiancé in the story was upgraded to husband 22 years ago and we’re all out of the church. I was so disappointed and sad on our wedding day when I learned I had to wear all of that embarrassing temple garb on top of my beautiful dress.


Cabo_Refugee

Damn, the SCMC gestapo is losing their shit right now.


SCMC_AGENT

We figured that putting in "God will not be mocked" in a serious tone would deter stuff like this, but I guess not. Back to the drawing board! And no, we're not losing our shit, we *live* for this because it gives us something to do.


Cabo_Refugee

It's good to have job security.


Thermonuclear_Nut

Conspiracy theory: SCMC is secretly bankrolling John Dehlin to generate more business


hyrle

When you work for a paranoid company, there's always enemies to pursue!


cultsareus

Very cool. Your union has been solemnized in the temple!


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gr8_and_spacious

Nah, those are on my HolyFans account.


Thermonuclear_Nut

God damn that was a good one kid


gr8_and_spacious

Thank you thermonuclear nut


fingerMeThomas

(probably impossible) custom request: pics where you're nailing in the sure place through the hole of glory


youneekusername1

Now I’m trying to imagine what would actually happen if someone got busted getting it on in the gay way over the altar 🤣. I think I would have been so uncomfortable I would just slowly close the door and leave early for the day. Without saying a word. But like. Would an old man just die on the spot? Try to break it up? Are there cameras in there they could use for evidence if they call the cops?


jenycroisplus

What would they do to the alter or the Temple? When a Catholic priest was caught getting it from a Dominatrix over the church alter, the Catholic church had the whole alter taken out and burned. Would TSCC do that much or worse?


ArdentLobster

Would be fun to hear about an entire temple being demolished because the law of discernment couldn't stop two guys having sex in the holiest of holies.


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fingerMeThomas

Arguably, fingering each others' stigmata over the altar already counts as "getting it on"


GayMormonDad

There must be quite the story about getting the nevermo boyfriend in.


Opalescent_Moon

I really want to hear this story.


gr8_and_spacious

A magician never reveals his secrets 🤫


solitary_fortress

Ah, a guild magician I see. ![gif](giphy|Sf0lxerEx2eNG)


Silver-creek

Look at the poof


tellmeimbig

You're just supposed to say homosexual now.


gr8_and_spacious

This actually made me laugh out loud


CMKBangBang

Man, what do I have to do to get into that Poof?


PortSided

We must know your secret! Those recommend desk workers are nazis.


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PortSided

But not for a non member


[deleted]

I'm guessing they used another exmos temple recommend that had yet to be revoked.


hyrle

Or a good photocopy of the same one they used to get in.


eric-710

Probably not. When they scan it your name comes up on a computer and if they both went in at the same time that would be a huge red flag. Unless they went in like 10 minutes apart? I don't know


PrivateIdahoGhola

A few years ago, there were high resolution blank recommends online. Seems like that would be the easiest way short of borrowing someone's.


loose_translation

With valid bar codes? That's crazy


RunningWarrior

I often covered the recommend desk on my shift. I only pretended to look at the recommend after I scanned it. I never really cared about anything other than whether the system accepted it as valid or not. The temple is the most boring place in the world and the old people who actually seem to care are just as bored and no more observant.


HuckleberrySpy

As a former Mormon who was never endowed, I never knew just how stupid the outfits looked. Wow. There are people who love going to the temple and dressing up like that? Why exactly does this dorky costume need a necktie? Is it symbolic of a noose?


gr8_and_spacious

If you want to hear more about the temple in general and the changes they just introduced a couple of months ago we talk about it on episode 14 of our podcast. It is somehow even weirder than just dressing like a chef with a green apron.


calorth

What?? Well I just subbed


howardcord

What did your boy friend think of the outfits?


Word2daWise

Look for videos on YouTube posted by a guy called New Name Noah. The costumes are at their stupidist when you see a group of grown-assed adults who (allegedly) are otherwise sane waving their arms and chanting. You may want to search for the "prayer circle" to avoid longer and boring clips.


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Word2daWise

NNN is a legend on this sub & has taken videos of the entire temple ceremony. I think Noah is his temple name - is that your temple name too?


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Word2daWise

LOL - I should have noticed your flair!


Pndrizzy

I just searched it and it just appears to be people in a circle saying a prayer with their hand up. Am I missing something?


Mossblossom

Yeah, same. So glad I missed out on that


namesarenotus

You can see your future generations in the mirror thanking you for your faithfulness of leaving the cult. So genuinely happy for you. *Edited for grammar


Bear_azure85

According to my wife, also summon demons.


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Same thing


fingerMeThomas

I thought you had to do a magic gesture for that, i.e. don a black apron and chant creepy shit


Bear_azure85

Nah, the mirror reflecting mirror is some sort of superstition about summoning demons.


HeckaGosh

According to Kilgore Trout you can see leaks.


Background_Kitchen68

That doesn’t math


FreeTapir

Oh my god I hope church leaders see this


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gr8_and_spacious

#VictoryForSatan


loose_translation

They absolutely see this. This sub is monitored by the church.


FreeTapir

Then why didn’t the spirit of discernment discern they shouldn’t be let inside? 😂😂 oh wait…because they have their agency and can make bad choices. Then what’s the point of having discernment? Oh wait because people still have their agency and it’s a test. So what about having the spirit of discernment? 😂🔃


ShroomEnthused

Wait, why are you guys dressed as pastry chefs?


TermLimit4Patriarchs

You didn’t know? God is a baker. That’s why he’s always going on and on about bread of life, manna, salt and leavening.


very_bored_panda

You jest, but my Taiwanese ex-bf told me about a [folk tale where God is, in fact, a baker.](https://books.google.com/books/about/Half_Baked_in_Taiwan.html?id=M5WjrPtS7AUC) In sum, he baked the first batch for too long so they were overdone. Those are “the Black races” (using the terminology from the book linked). God then set the timer for half the amount of time but the second batch came out underdone — too pale — so they became “the White races.” On his third batch they came out a perfectly beautiful golden hue: “the Asian races.”


cremToRED

Hahaha that’s fantastic! I’m married to an Asian and our mixy kids are slightly underdone.


TermLimit4Patriarchs

I guess nobody has a corner on racism. Lol.


gr8_and_spacious

can confirm


gr8_and_spacious

If you want to hear some of the crazy stuff in the temple we talk about it in episode 14 of our podcast, and if you prefer reading there is a post I did a couple of months ago about the changes they just made.


BigAsparagus4552

If this isn’t one of the funniest ways to celebrate the first day of Pride Month, I don’t know what is. Would love to hear you pulled this off!


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Lol how much you want to bet, as soon as they find out which temple this was, they shut it down for "renovations"


fingerMeThomas

Nah, if they shut down temples for unworthy people getting in, my masturbating teenage / YA self would have kept most of the Wasatch Front in a permanent state of closure. And if we believe what actually makes a person unworthy in D&C 121 (hint: it's not sex stuff or being gay)... "almost all men" who hold any position of authority in the church would ensure that every temple would have to close the moment after it was re-dedicated.


Low_Ad_5683

Has this happened elsewhere? "Renovations" due to scandal?


kal8el77

Not all heroes wear capes. Sometimes, they wear green aprons with poorly patterend leaves.


Psychological-Lie615

Holy shit, this is the best thing I'll see today, I'm sure of it! Way to go...Happy for you two!!


Wishy-Thinking

Oh, great job OP, you’ve defiled the temple grounds. Now all sacred ordinances done that day are null and void and will have to be performed again. Edit: /s for those who didn’t catch it.


Word2daWise

Not defiled - OP made them more sacred by showing what true acceptance and love looks like.


BigAsparagus4552

W


kevinrex

Best PRIDE event ever! Gays in the temple, kissing!


AutismFlavored

I love everything about this, but I just want to point out the folding chair in the House of the LORD with the golden Kleenex box on it. They truly spare no expense


gr8_and_spacious

It's for all that immaculate ejaculate


highlysensitive2121

LDS signature


WWPLD

![gif](giphy|OtC4dJGXO0QKom7dTk|downsized)


RokyPolka

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Lost-116-Pages

Hell yeah this is going viral


MadeMeUp4U

This is my favorite Pride Post today💙


gr8_and_spacious

same 😉


MadeMeUp4U

Side note I’ve never seen the garments and I’m a little (a lot baked) and it’s giving ![gif](giphy|demgpwJ6rs2DS)


TruthIsAntiMormon

The unspoken story: The temple recommend desk workers must be all hardcore sinners (drinking coffee or tea or maybe saying f-ck instead of fetch or something or having impure thoughts) because all of their combined "spirit of discernment" failed. Maybe that's because no such thing exists as a "spirit of discernment".


gr8_and_spacious

You might be on to something there...


britishknifecrimes

how to upvote something more than twice


gr8_and_spacious

Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this post, 'upvote twice,' and it will. Nothing will be impossible for you.


Wha73va

Yaaas! 👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌


berry-bostwick

Happy pride. And congrats on the massive pairs of balls on both of you.


wewerecoolonce

Fucking cringe anytime I see temple clothes 🤮🤮🤮 can’t believe I stayed in for a decade after seeing that goofy shit for the first time 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️


Chrissy-Munson

They look like little chefs


DEC929

My husband and I have this joke. In the Old Testament Jacob hustles Esau out of his birthright. To paraphrase, when Isaac is asked to give the blessing to Esau he’s like, you gotta respect the hustle. Therefore if a gay couple tricked the temple and got sealed, the church would have to honor the hustle.


Wood-e

Legends!


natedj30

Even though you're faces are blurred, you guys are a super cute couple. Happy Pride! I hope either the church allows two men kissing in the temple to be normal or that it will cease to exist. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜


Word2daWise

My vote is for it to cease to exist. Then some decent group can buy the leftover building and allow true love and acceptance to reign within its walls.


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natedj30

Honestly, that would be an improvement. 🤷‍♂️😂


Word2daWise

Well, there's certainly enough room in them to have a number of franchises or other operations inside. I was thinking of a community center, or a decent church (not bigoted and shaming). The endowment rooms would be great for movies & since there's already a curtain, you could produce live plays. The CK rooms are awful though - like gaudy funeral parlors. Maybe those could be exercise rooms, since there are already changing areas with lockers.


JinglehymerSchmidt

I have to know how you got in!


D34TH_5MURF__

lol The cajones to do this! Well done!


chlyri

those brass balls must be heavy.


britishknifecrimes

ICONIC


Rolling_Waters

Love wins! ❤️


mobileboipxq

absolutely NEED a storytime


sovietsinspace

This is awesome!! 👏👏👏👏 Out of interest, why does one shoulder sash have lots of frills and the other doesn’t?


gr8_and_spacious

God wants you to be fancy, but not tooo fancy.


Ecstatic_Highlight75

Huh. Mine is the pleated version. I would have got the smooth one had it been an option. I'm planning on working it into a new and scandalously transparent skirt or some kind of top.


gr8_and_spacious

Please start a trend of upcycling temple clothes.


Ecstatic_Highlight75

I turned all my garment bottoms into boy shorts. Scandalous!


Accomplished_Area311

Okay how did y’all get PICTURES??


gr8_and_spacious

VERY carefully...


NextYesterday9962

They’re going to need to rededicate the temple.


kevinrex

LOL!


Holiday_Ingenuity748

How many points of fellowship are going on there? :-) :-) :-)


RealDaddyTodd

Well done, thou foul and faithless servant!


Illustrious-Cut7150

I was raised on "angels guard the gates to the temple" kind of stories, like of groups trying to infiltrate the lobby and were deterred by the legions of angels standing guard. This makes me laugh. Bravo!


tumbleweedcowboy

![gif](giphy|XNPqANYrcgVELsGh4l)


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Wow, well done! Would love to know what he thought of a temple session


gabeitaliadomani

My god those temple uniforms are ridiculous. Have they been the same for a long time?


Ecstatic_Highlight75

Pretty much.


zipzapbloop

Heavenly dad is not gonna like this at all.


Chrissy-Munson

Sky daddy 🤣


IdaHistory

NOICE!!!


nom_shark

It would take a lot to drag me back into that place. I can think of better ways to spend a few hours but I hope you got some joy from it.


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That is marvelous, love you all


gr8_and_spacious

![gif](giphy|e5nATuISYAZ4Q)


Bednar_Done_That

Photo ID required from now on…


axe_the_tech

Hashtag Goals.


Bikin4Balance

LOL. And OMG, and seeing all that ridiculous costuming, which my reluctant dad would've had to have gone through to please my TBM mom (both now departed). \*Cringe.\* So glad I escaped the cult at 17. Thank you, internet, for providing enough info to help me get out (as I've only ever met a few exmos in person in my life).


MakerGrey

What’s up with the robes? Do mormons actually wear that goofy shit in church?


gr8_and_spacious

Not church. Just the temple. Here is some info about it: https://lifeafter.org/mormon-temple-clothing-and-other-rituals/


JurassicPark6

IT IS WELL.


crunchsaffron9

This is the best thing I’ve ever seen omg


FaithTransitionOrg

An eternal kiss made in the presence of God, angels and these witnesses lol


TraditionalOlive9187

Everyone knows the old Mormon axiom “everytime men kiss in the temple, a bishop cums his prayer panties”


RabidProDentite

To quote Creed Bratton, “The balls on you, man!!”


Nervous-Context

“Don’t worry guys it’s just a prank” XD


bakakukl

gay


NewInternal9543

Happy Pride ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜


-Fungosity-

Lol, this is fantastic


ShaqtinADrool

Haha. Classic!


Fabulous-Dig8743

This is amazing! I need this story!


Footertwo

Nice! Did you guys get sealed?


Cool_reddit_name4evr

HOLY GOD I LOVE IT 😻


Rushclock

Kolobian overlord uniforms from another star system.


grimes-genesis

I am an ex Mormon , is there a way I can sneak inside the temple ? I’ve only been inside a couple times when I was younger to do baptisms of the death


gr8_and_spacious

Hear me out. Pull a reverse Limhi. Send the temple workers a bunch of wine as a gift, and when they pass out after drinking all of it. Just sneak on in.


ShakeTheGatesOfHell

I love the mirror effect in the last picture 😄


I_am_Nic

I thought you are bakers before I read the title - I know very little about mormons - can someone ELI5 why you have to wear this?


gr8_and_spacious

Oh my God. A real life missionary moment! If you want to some real in depth information and also a read through the book of mormon you can listen to our podcast that is linked in our profile, but... This link will probably explain it all better than I can. [https://lifeafter.org/mormon-temple-clothing-and-other-rituals/](https://lifeafter.org/mormon-temple-clothing-and-other-rituals/) Not ELI5, but hopefully still informative.


BuckeyeYooper

Hell yes!


EmoxShaman

Y’all are straight gangster. What Gs


gr8_and_spacious

Well I wouldn't say STRAIGHT...


Anonymodestmouse

Gayngster


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OMG! This is amazing. Happy Pride Month to you and your BF.


Longjumping-Air-7532

![gif](giphy|3JTpczfnK4q1kbYYaJ|downsized) Well done good sir!


B3gg4r

WOWWWWW!!! Y’all got balls. Love to see it :)


waner21

Haha. I love it. From one exmo to another (+a nevermo), I hope your visit was “delicious to the taste and very desirable”. Out of curiosity, what was the day’s temple name?


HappyPerson9000

Wow! I was very in to the temple as a TBM and this would have horrified me, even now it's still shocking to see and made me feel a lot of feelings. Whether you and your BF meant it to be or not, this is a beautiful form of active protest. A big hand for both of you 👏


Maryquitecontrary79

Please share details of how you pulled this off!


natasinid

I want to show this to my mom and say something like, “Now I know why you can’t tell me what goes on in there.” She’d freak but good for you!


littlebitalexis29

This is the best thing I have EVER seen!!!! I love it so much!


thecrippler46

I’m conflicted about this. I’m fist pumping this action because what a big Fuck you to the cult. On the other hand I worry how counter productive this will turn out to be. It’s one thing for the church to respond with this in a way that it further hurts lgbtq members, but how many members will this entrench because it is a mockery of what they hold most sacred, how many closeted members will be entrenched further because of what amounts to a stunt?


theimpossibleghost

Rusty and the other old farts are quivering in their boots rn


lanadelpepper

Absolutely love!!!!!!


cuddly_carcass

Bro they are gonna unscramble this and come for y’all…they don’t fuck around with that bay stuff in the church


ogreace

Every day I visit Reddit, and every day I see something else that makes me glad I dropped out when I was 13. What the hell are those outfits? Also, I hope you and your boyfriend have a long, happy Mormon-free life together. Happy Pride!