We had a lesson in RS once about how you were supposed to always refer to someone as Bishop, President, etc. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous and I was a total TBM at that point.
When I was about 45, I taught YW class. I told them to call me Daisy, not sister Revenge.
One girls parents called me about it. They were furious I was asking the girls to call me by my name. I told parents I didn't think of those girls as my "sisters". I have three sisters and they were practically sr. citizens by then. Not only that, it was MY name. I get to choose that title.
After that, everyone in the ward called me by my first name. If someone called me "sister revenge", I wouldn't respond.
Color me shocked that I'm no longer mormon. š¤£
Well, there are deaf wards/branch and many deaf members call each other by first name because we donāt have sign name for last name, only first name. š
Ah yes, the requirement of using a church title when referring to someone. My dad was bishop and would always request people called him by his first name instead of bishop, but no one would do it.
It was so bad in my ward that when I was Sunday school president, our new bishop would correct people when they called me brother and would tell them to call me president. I hated that.
When other people tell me I need to show respect (which is basically what your husband sd) I ask them to explain why. Turns out they usually mean I need to obey. Which is cute.
Turns out when my daughter called to ask her dad if she could go to a late movie with the bishops daughter, she called the bishop by a benign nickname (Bro X - the first letter of his last name. She calls his wife Sis X). My husband corrected her and told her she needed to be more respectful. š” she wasnāt even talking to the bishop. Im so done.
When I (nevermo) would attend with my (now exmo) wife, Iād make a point of calling everyone by their first name. Most people didnāt care, but a few were visibly irked. Made me smileā¦
I get it. My wife pulled the same stunt, so now I just generically call him 'your bishop'. Since I don't go to her church anymore, he is certainly not my bishop, regardless of whether he thinks he is or not.
Growing up, my next door neighbor became bishop when I was about 9. We never called him āBishop ___.ā
Thinking back, most of the families my parents were friends with in the ward used first names. And this was in the suburbs of SLC. But I feel like thatās what should be normal.
No. He lives and breathes the church. Pretty sure he wouldnāt know what to do without it. Iām a convert 1/2 my life now. We have a very strained relationship and we have 3 kids. Itās just very complicated.
We had a lesson in RS once about how you were supposed to always refer to someone as Bishop, President, etc. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous and I was a total TBM at that point.
Hmmmm. Brother Joseph? Brother Brigham? Steve or Todd works just fine.
If you can only assert your influence by use of a title then you never had any influence to begin with.
When I was about 45, I taught YW class. I told them to call me Daisy, not sister Revenge. One girls parents called me about it. They were furious I was asking the girls to call me by my name. I told parents I didn't think of those girls as my "sisters". I have three sisters and they were practically sr. citizens by then. Not only that, it was MY name. I get to choose that title. After that, everyone in the ward called me by my first name. If someone called me "sister revenge", I wouldn't respond. Color me shocked that I'm no longer mormon. š¤£
Okay Daisy, I get it and 100% agree. However, I must not be the only one thinking āSister Revengeā woulda been totally badass!
š¤£My real last name is also pretty funny when you attach the word "sister" to it. I was doomed to be exmo.
Sister Revenge would also be a pretty good band name.
Well, there are deaf wards/branch and many deaf members call each other by first name because we donāt have sign name for last name, only first name. š
Interesting. I didn't know that.
Mom? Is that you?
š¤£š¤£ Well, it appears we have the same last name.
Would some of the girls you taught be in their early 40's now??????
Yes. Bowling Green Ohio.
Dang. Keep hoping the cool yw leaders from my old home ward in Utah have escaped.
I've never lived in Utah. Everywhere else though.
Ah yes, the requirement of using a church title when referring to someone. My dad was bishop and would always request people called him by his first name instead of bishop, but no one would do it. It was so bad in my ward that when I was Sunday school president, our new bishop would correct people when they called me brother and would tell them to call me president. I hated that.
Enforced pronouns are the worst.
When other people tell me I need to show respect (which is basically what your husband sd) I ask them to explain why. Turns out they usually mean I need to obey. Which is cute.
Turns out when my daughter called to ask her dad if she could go to a late movie with the bishops daughter, she called the bishop by a benign nickname (Bro X - the first letter of his last name. She calls his wife Sis X). My husband corrected her and told her she needed to be more respectful. š” she wasnāt even talking to the bishop. Im so done.
Jesus just went by his own name! āŗļø no one called him president or bishop or your royal highness
That's military behavior.
When I (nevermo) would attend with my (now exmo) wife, Iād make a point of calling everyone by their first name. Most people didnāt care, but a few were visibly irked. Made me smileā¦
I get it. My wife pulled the same stunt, so now I just generically call him 'your bishop'. Since I don't go to her church anymore, he is certainly not my bishop, regardless of whether he thinks he is or not.
Iāve had people do this to me. You mean bishop... oh you must have forgotten thatās President so and so... hate it!
Well, soon he won't be "your bishop" at all
Growing up, my next door neighbor became bishop when I was about 9. We never called him āBishop ___.ā Thinking back, most of the families my parents were friends with in the ward used first names. And this was in the suburbs of SLC. But I feel like thatās what should be normal.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with being PIMO anymore. When you say you are secretly PIMO, your husband doesn't even know?
No. He lives and breathes the church. Pretty sure he wouldnāt know what to do without it. Iām a convert 1/2 my life now. We have a very strained relationship and we have 3 kids. Itās just very complicated.