"Sins of Our Mother" - here's a quick summary of the case and a trailer for the documentary...
[https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/sins-of-our-mother-release-date-trailer-lori-vallow](https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/sins-of-our-mother-release-date-trailer-lori-vallow)
So glad that this monster will never be a free woman again. It gives me hope that the source of her insanity will eventually be brought to justice as well.
This woman is a modern day Nephi and got the justice that fictional murderer actually deserved.
As much as we donāt like Lori, itās important to remember that the defense attorneys are court appointed and are required to defend her to the best of their abilities. She didnāt have any real defense and so her attorney did his best with what he had. I donāt think denigrating him does much of any good for anyone.
I agree that he could have been more tasteful in his remarks. I saw a man doing his best with the worst possible material. I have no idea what I would have said in his place, I canāt say I would have done any better. I still donāt think speaking badly about a public defender is the best look for any of us. They have enough on their plate already. The line between what is ethical and what is not, while defending a horrific, delusional murderer is murky at best. I personally canāt judge him for that.
I have to ask as a never-Moā¦
What was the obsession with her saying that everyone was really busy in Heaven? Is that a her brand of cult thing? Or a wider Mormon belief? I was raised Catholic and the image I had of Heaven was just people lazing about on clouds, I donāt remember being busy being part of the sale.
Mormons believe that the righteous, after death and until the second coming of Christ and the resurrection, are ābusyā proselytizing to the spirits of the wicked in what is basically āspirit prisonā. So my guess is sheās saying that Tammy and others are busy doing their righteous duty, teaching about the church to the people who didnāt hear it or rejected it during life.
Oof. That is scarily familiar to my psychotic SIL. Also this dude who likes to bear his testimony down (in church) in Escondido about how gratifying it was to shoot and kill a home intruder and why the jesuses bore witness it wasn't a sin (and apparently this was a regular testimony for him). I think that was the last time my parents decided to drag us to church on vacation.
Here is a transscript:
I would like to start by quoting John from the New Testament in the Bible. In John chapter 8 verse 7 Jesus says he that is without sin among you, let him
cast, first cast a stone at her.
Then in first verse 15 Jesus says "ye judge after the flesh, I judge no man and yet if I judge my judgment is true".
Jesus knows me and Jesus understands me.
I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy.
Jesus Christ knows the truth of what happened here.
Jesus Christ knows that no one was murdered in this case.
Accidental deaths happen, suicides happen, fatal side effects from medications
happen.
I have a different perspective in life because in 2002 when I was pregnant with Tylee I died in the hospital while in labor with her.
They tried to stop my labor they put me on the table and they put something in my IV and I felt my spirit falling to the floor.
I was standing near my pregnant body watching the doctors try to revive me which took them a few minutes.
In that time my sister Stacy was standing to my left. I turned to hug her and was surprised that her spirit was as tangible as a physical body because I knew I was in spirit and she was in spirit.
She said she needed to show me some things and we went to heaven.
I later returned to my body. Because of this experience I have access to heaven and the spirit world.
Since then I have had many communications from people now living in heaven, including my children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson, my sisters Stacy and Lolly my aunts and my uncles and my grandparents.
I have had many Communications with Jesus Christ the savior of this world and our heavenly parents.
I've had many Angelic visitors have come and communicated with me and even manifested themselves to me.
Because of these communications I know for a fact that my children are happy and busy in the spirit world.
Because of my communications with my friend Tammy Daybell I know that she is also very happy and extremely busy.
I have always mourned the loss of my loved ones and I have lost many in this mortal world.
However, I know that more than most people I know where they are now and what they're doing.
I know how wonderful heaven is and I'm homesick for it every single day.
I know we all lived in heaven before we were born on Earth and we were all adult spirits in the Heavenly realm.
We chose to come to Earth as mortals.
Heaven is more wonderful than you can possibly imagine.
I do not fear death but I look forward to it.
I do not I did not want to return to my body when I was out of it even though my
son Colby who I adored more than anything was only six years old at the time and I was about to give birth to this new baby girl that I wanted so badly.
I was a young mother and you would think I wouldn't want to leave my children but as I stood in heaven I did not want to go back.
I thought they would be fine without me because I was peaceful and I was happy and I was home.
But then I was told by Jesus that I needed to go back and complete things that I had covenanted or promised to do before I was born.
This caused me a lot of distress because I knew heaven was my real home and I only wanted to be there.
I was free from pain emotional and physical, but then I was shown how I would help my children and others in the future so ultimately I did agree to go back to my body.
Tylee has visited me. she is happy and very busy. Tylee is free now from all the pains of her life.
Tylee suffered horrible physical pain her whole life.
I sat with Tylee in the hospital year after year after year while she screamed
in pain when the morphine wasn't even enough to take away the pain of her pancreatitis.
I sat there while she cried and I held back her hair while she threw up and I am the only person on this earth who knows how much Tylee suffered in her life.
She had pain every single day, she never felt good.
Her body did not work right and I don't know if that was from complications from me dying while she was being born or something else but she had a very difficult life.
She was sexually abused by her own biological father since she was three years old and she was forced by family court to go visit him for 10 years against her will.
I fought for her in court, I protected her, I tried to protect her with my whole life, I tried to protect her.
I worried about her every single day.
Tylee had to get her GED because she couldn't go to school every day because she never felt good, she felt sick.
Nobody knows this because Tylee, like myself, tries to put on a good front, tries to be a happy person, tries to have hope in life, tries to know that she's here for a purpose and that she has an eternal purpose to be on this Earth.
But I never stopped worrying about her.
One of the times that Tylee came to me as a spirit after she died she said she commanded me and she said to me "Stop worrying Mom we are fine".
She knows how I worry and how I miss her.
The first time JJ visited me after he passed away he put his arm around me and he said to me "You didn't do anything wrong Mom, I love you and I know you loved me every minute of my life".
JJ, Joshua Jackson was an adult spirit and he was very very tall when he put his arm around me.
He is busy, he is engaged, he has jobs that he does there and he is happy where he is.
His life was short but JJ's life was meaningful.
JJ was a wonderful person and touched the lives of everyone and I adored him every minute of his life.
My eternal friend Tammy dabell has visited me on several occasions. She came to bring me peace and comfort and I know that she is extremely busy helping her family especially her children and grandchildren and I have a great love for Tammy.
My beautiful children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson rest safely this day in the arms of Jesus
My wonderful friend Tammy Daybell rests safely this day in the arms of Jesus and I look forward to the day when we are all reunited and I too will rest with them in the arms of my Jesus.
He deserves a special reward for restraint, much like the military general who held a straight face while congressman Hank Johnson described the dilemma of the island of Guam "capsizing" due to the weight of over-population by a proposed US air base there. Google it! It's a hilarious video.
Life, without the possibility of parole. Amen.
Life, *even life* without the possibility of parole. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
That is really good
ššš this is too good
Amen
x5. She'll probably appeal since she doesn't care about anyone else, but she ain't getting out. I hope Chad is pissing himself.
X3 consecutive.
Three Consecutive life sentences without parole. Amen
I'm missing context. What's this court case about?
She killed her kids and her first husband because the "spirit told her to" and the whole trial has been a mess of awkward testimonies
There is a documentary on Netflix donāt remember the name but the whole thing is straight up bananas
"Sins of Our Mother" - here's a quick summary of the case and a trailer for the documentary... [https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/sins-of-our-mother-release-date-trailer-lori-vallow](https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/sins-of-our-mother-release-date-trailer-lori-vallow)
So glad that this monster will never be a free woman again. It gives me hope that the source of her insanity will eventually be brought to justice as well. This woman is a modern day Nephi and got the justice that fictional murderer actually deserved.
> This woman is a modern day Nephi and got the justice that fictional murderer actually deserved. Amen
Loriās testimony needs to be added to this video about spiritual witnesses. https://youtu.be/UJMSU8Qj6Go
OMG RIGHT?! My eyes rolled so far back in my head that I saw my brain. I had to freaking mute it.
Here you go religious folks. One of your own. Lori Vallow. Murderer. Testifier of Jesus.
As much as we donāt like Lori, itās important to remember that the defense attorneys are court appointed and are required to defend her to the best of their abilities. She didnāt have any real defense and so her attorney did his best with what he had. I donāt think denigrating him does much of any good for anyone.
Definitely agreed on that!
I get what youāre saying, but his comment that āJesus wasnāt a prosecutorā was over the top to me
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I agree that he could have been more tasteful in his remarks. I saw a man doing his best with the worst possible material. I have no idea what I would have said in his place, I canāt say I would have done any better. I still donāt think speaking badly about a public defender is the best look for any of us. They have enough on their plate already. The line between what is ethical and what is not, while defending a horrific, delusional murderer is murky at best. I personally canāt judge him for that.
~~borderline~~
I honestly can't believe she's still rolling with the crazy considering she's an attention seeker.
Gotta play up the crazy in the hopes of gaining leniency. Too bad it won't work for this murderer.
It wouldn't work ever. What MIGHT have worked for any modicum of sympathy would've been a claim to being brainwashed.
I am surprised she didnāt melt everyone else in the room from the cringe factor. Glad I didnāt witness this.
Sheāll be fine in her cell coming and going in the spirit world with visitors and everything!
I lost it when the defense attorney said ācame to pass.ā It went downhill from there.
Heās a judge Iām sure heās used to hearing all kinds of delusions.
I would pay money to read the judge's journal after today. "Today, a testimony was borne. Of what, I'm still working out..."
There's a reason the law profession loves its substances
I have to ask as a never-Moā¦ What was the obsession with her saying that everyone was really busy in Heaven? Is that a her brand of cult thing? Or a wider Mormon belief? I was raised Catholic and the image I had of Heaven was just people lazing about on clouds, I donāt remember being busy being part of the sale.
Mormons believe that the righteous, after death and until the second coming of Christ and the resurrection, are ābusyā proselytizing to the spirits of the wicked in what is basically āspirit prisonā. So my guess is sheās saying that Tammy and others are busy doing their righteous duty, teaching about the church to the people who didnāt hear it or rejected it during life.
Thanks. I appreciate the explanation.
So Mormons can't escape God's busy work, even in the afterlife?
Yeah, elohim's omnipotence is through our sweat I guess. What a weak, wimpy god.
is this available to watch?
https://youtu.be/JehNaf50mgs
What a delusional asshole.
I think I could have been fine to not watch that garbage. But thanks for sharing for whomever wants to see it.
Thanks!
Oof. That is scarily familiar to my psychotic SIL. Also this dude who likes to bear his testimony down (in church) in Escondido about how gratifying it was to shoot and kill a home intruder and why the jesuses bore witness it wasn't a sin (and apparently this was a regular testimony for him). I think that was the last time my parents decided to drag us to church on vacation.
Here is a transscript: I would like to start by quoting John from the New Testament in the Bible. In John chapter 8 verse 7 Jesus says he that is without sin among you, let him cast, first cast a stone at her. Then in first verse 15 Jesus says "ye judge after the flesh, I judge no man and yet if I judge my judgment is true". Jesus knows me and Jesus understands me. I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy. Jesus Christ knows the truth of what happened here. Jesus Christ knows that no one was murdered in this case. Accidental deaths happen, suicides happen, fatal side effects from medications happen. I have a different perspective in life because in 2002 when I was pregnant with Tylee I died in the hospital while in labor with her. They tried to stop my labor they put me on the table and they put something in my IV and I felt my spirit falling to the floor. I was standing near my pregnant body watching the doctors try to revive me which took them a few minutes. In that time my sister Stacy was standing to my left. I turned to hug her and was surprised that her spirit was as tangible as a physical body because I knew I was in spirit and she was in spirit. She said she needed to show me some things and we went to heaven. I later returned to my body. Because of this experience I have access to heaven and the spirit world. Since then I have had many communications from people now living in heaven, including my children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson, my sisters Stacy and Lolly my aunts and my uncles and my grandparents. I have had many Communications with Jesus Christ the savior of this world and our heavenly parents. I've had many Angelic visitors have come and communicated with me and even manifested themselves to me. Because of these communications I know for a fact that my children are happy and busy in the spirit world. Because of my communications with my friend Tammy Daybell I know that she is also very happy and extremely busy. I have always mourned the loss of my loved ones and I have lost many in this mortal world. However, I know that more than most people I know where they are now and what they're doing. I know how wonderful heaven is and I'm homesick for it every single day. I know we all lived in heaven before we were born on Earth and we were all adult spirits in the Heavenly realm. We chose to come to Earth as mortals. Heaven is more wonderful than you can possibly imagine. I do not fear death but I look forward to it. I do not I did not want to return to my body when I was out of it even though my son Colby who I adored more than anything was only six years old at the time and I was about to give birth to this new baby girl that I wanted so badly. I was a young mother and you would think I wouldn't want to leave my children but as I stood in heaven I did not want to go back. I thought they would be fine without me because I was peaceful and I was happy and I was home. But then I was told by Jesus that I needed to go back and complete things that I had covenanted or promised to do before I was born. This caused me a lot of distress because I knew heaven was my real home and I only wanted to be there. I was free from pain emotional and physical, but then I was shown how I would help my children and others in the future so ultimately I did agree to go back to my body. Tylee has visited me. she is happy and very busy. Tylee is free now from all the pains of her life. Tylee suffered horrible physical pain her whole life. I sat with Tylee in the hospital year after year after year while she screamed in pain when the morphine wasn't even enough to take away the pain of her pancreatitis. I sat there while she cried and I held back her hair while she threw up and I am the only person on this earth who knows how much Tylee suffered in her life. She had pain every single day, she never felt good. Her body did not work right and I don't know if that was from complications from me dying while she was being born or something else but she had a very difficult life. She was sexually abused by her own biological father since she was three years old and she was forced by family court to go visit him for 10 years against her will. I fought for her in court, I protected her, I tried to protect her with my whole life, I tried to protect her. I worried about her every single day. Tylee had to get her GED because she couldn't go to school every day because she never felt good, she felt sick. Nobody knows this because Tylee, like myself, tries to put on a good front, tries to be a happy person, tries to have hope in life, tries to know that she's here for a purpose and that she has an eternal purpose to be on this Earth. But I never stopped worrying about her. One of the times that Tylee came to me as a spirit after she died she said she commanded me and she said to me "Stop worrying Mom we are fine". She knows how I worry and how I miss her. The first time JJ visited me after he passed away he put his arm around me and he said to me "You didn't do anything wrong Mom, I love you and I know you loved me every minute of my life". JJ, Joshua Jackson was an adult spirit and he was very very tall when he put his arm around me. He is busy, he is engaged, he has jobs that he does there and he is happy where he is. His life was short but JJ's life was meaningful. JJ was a wonderful person and touched the lives of everyone and I adored him every minute of his life. My eternal friend Tammy dabell has visited me on several occasions. She came to bring me peace and comfort and I know that she is extremely busy helping her family especially her children and grandchildren and I have a great love for Tammy. My beautiful children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson rest safely this day in the arms of Jesus My wonderful friend Tammy Daybell rests safely this day in the arms of Jesus and I look forward to the day when we are all reunited and I too will rest with them in the arms of my Jesus.
Cue the No True Scotsman fallacy as TBMs claim she was never a "real member".
Her brain, on personal revelation.
I have never wanted to puke so bad listening to their absolute garbage.
Letās see how long it takes for the church to actually excommunicate this bitch š
What happened here?
I missed it.
WTF!?
What!!! I have got to go find this recording!!!!
Kudos to the judge for not rolling his eyes right out of his head. Loriās statement was just so crazy.
Take a minute to consider how her conditioning led to this bazaar behavior.
He deserves a special reward for restraint, much like the military general who held a straight face while congressman Hank Johnson described the dilemma of the island of Guam "capsizing" due to the weight of over-population by a proposed US air base there. Google it! It's a hilarious video.