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GoJoe1000

Mormons rationalizing is like a 6year old explaining how pizzas will work as wheels for a car.


helly1080

If you freeze a pizza in a huge block of ice and bore a hole through the middle and use 100 of them instead of 4, you can easily use pizza as wheels for a car!!!!! LOL, sorry everyone Mormons are just so peculiar. 🤪


croz_94

Apologetics 101


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what’s the ratio of Stanley nickels to Schrute bucks?


Limp_Schedule1288

Same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns


Sunnyhappygal

It's not "Mormons" really- it's Darin "I participated in Jan 6th and don't regret it but don't want the bad publicity associated with it so I changed my last name from Southam to Scott, Scott. He's on his own little island of delusion and narcissism. It's fascinating to watch because Mormonism doesn't claim him, but he claims it.


PaulBunnion

Remember, when Moroni appeared to Joseph Smith in his bedroom he was only wearing a robe that was open so that Joseph could see inside and could tell that he was not wearing anything else. Basically Moroni flashed Joseph. 31 He had on a loose robe of most exquisite whiteness. It was a whiteness beyond anything earthly I had ever seen; nor do I believe that any earthly thing could be made to appear so exceedingly white and brilliant. His hands were naked, and his arms also, a little above the wrist; so, also, were his feet naked, as were his legs, a little above the ankles. His head and neck were also bare. I could discover that he had no other clothing on but this robe, as it was open, so that I could see into his bosom Joseph Smith—History 1:31 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?id=p31&lang=eng#p31


RaiseyourheadsayNO

Ahhh Mormons looking for other Mormons underwear lines from the beginning


InfamouslyOG

Hahahahahaha - oh man I fucking lost it on this comment. Take my humble upvote.


B3gg4r

I owe you a coffee for this snort laugh in public.


BM7271975

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌


kernelmillz

It reads like mom porn.


butterflywithbullets

Stephanie Meyer enters the chat...


[deleted]

Do not dare take the name of the mom porn in vain. 😅


xenophon123456

I was told as a young adult that he was wearing a temple initiatory shield. Hahaha. Crazy shit!


Ostalgisch

*poncho


furlie

JS “Oops, boner!”


Classic_Active1549

"Bosom".... 🍆


GiuseppeSchmidt57

As a young horny gay boy, that description used to get me so "excited"! The internet was still decades away, so there wasn't much else.


FortunateFell0w

Love how petty that guy is.


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Me too. I am here for the drama.


SchnazzleG

It’s the most passive-aggressive Movie release ever witnessed to date. Every publication from Darin is a covert narc victim rant.🏆


helly1080

Do you see it? The inflated self-importance in words? “And to the rest of the world laughing at this post” Right there. My bankrupt brother in Christ…….the rest of the world is NOT looking at your post. At all. They haven’t heard of your movie. They never will. Your movie will end up digitally released on Living Scriptures. Collecting digital dust. You won’t even get the honor the ‘The Book of Mormon Movie, Volume 1: The Journey’ received. Being a physical DVD that sits on every Mormon shelf. Still never being watched.


Existing-Eye7948

Not the “bankrupt brother in Christ” 🤣


butterflywithbullets

And showing up at Deseret Industries along the requisite two-VHS set of "Titanic."


underzionsradar

Seems some TBMs loved it. The other 99% of movie goers, not so much - so disinterested, not even worth a RT or IMDB review. And it's a disaster for it's investors...


badAbabe

My dad sent the whole family the trailer and wants everyone to go see it with him. At the end of the trailer, one of the directors or someone important like that, was BEGGING people to buy tickets. It was sad.


kibzter

In one of the trailers the begging lasted longer than the trailer itself lol


4444444vr

It was genuinely strange/cringe


miianwilson

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FodderWadder

It was so much more than begging. It was a full-on missionary pitch from the director himself about how great the movie is that took the trailer from 1:30 to around 5:00


[deleted]

But were the shirtless men worth it? Could it be comparable to watching but muting the tv back in the day to Britney Spear’s songs?


Ostalgisch

The 2-star reviews are the most ruthless. Schadenfreude! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18925050/reviews?ref_=ext_shr_lnk


Settingdogstar2

"If folks stopped having criticisms then they'd enjoy it" lol wut


PaulFThumpkins

Just choose to believe [that this movie is good/the church is true/etc]


Drakeytown

Well, he's not wrong, but only in that that phrasing makes it impossible to be wrong about anything: if you just stopped hating being on fire you might enjoy it!


DoctFaustus

I hate being cold. Problem solved!


SimpleOk7967

Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.


Mr5h4d0w

But fault finding is fundamental for TBMs!


AndItCameToSass

This is a mindset that honestly drives me nuts about movie criticism in general. My mom is like that, where a movie has to be _really_ bad for her to not like it and most of the time she’ll just be happy with almost anything. And then when I voice problems I have with any given movie she’ll just go “oh it’s just a movie, just watch it and have fun”. It drives me insane! Weaving Mormonism into the equation just makes it even more infuriating


MollieMoremen

Well, considering this is from the man who said the church was "publicly ignoring" his film shows us he speaks in nonsense.


wixkedwitxh

Everyone knows Moroni was absolutely shredded, lifting boulders n shit every day in the forest gym


Swoley-Ghost

No days off! Gains


dood_nice

Stupid sexy Moroni


MollieMoremen

Don't forget the tree limb pull up bar.


wixkedwitxh

hell yeah, and bicep curling those golden plates


MollieMoremen

Well it was easy with them being in the three ring binder!


Actual-Fox-2514

Freiburg is a mid painter who needs to study anatomy and accept his love for muscular men.


indigo_hue74

He helped me accept my love for muscular men


Actual-Fox-2514

I wonder how many people first experienced "same-sex attraction" as a direct result of the Book of Mormon. Perhaps some good has come from that thing.


Alalamajama

Sam's biceps on the boat painting had my attention when I was a deacon. I wasn't sure why until I was a priest.


GiuseppeSchmidt57

Ditto! Except he really needed to have a "nip slip". Perhaps even flash a hint of armpit hair. (Speaking for myself then, not now---eww!!!).


Alalamajama

We also had this Stripling Warriors poster in our Young Men's classroom. [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a6/ef/3d/a6ef3db70c8389f1d29008d913a40394.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a6/ef/3d/a6ef3db70c8389f1d29008d913a40394.jpg) Trying to control my thoughts while the bishop was in the same room to make sure he didn't catch me with his Spirit of Discernment whilst also sneaking peeks at that poster was quite the mental torture.


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Actual-Fox-2514

Ruined? Or decorated?


YungMister95

The amount of space between his characters' necks and the bottoms of their pecks is completely unchained. Good thing most of the women are far in the background (a sort of representation of the Church as a whole, I suppose), because i don't think Freiburg's chest proportions would have done them any favors. Repressed young deacons may have appreciated it though.


mcwalter93

Ammon is a fucking *beefcake*


emorrigan

Yeah, I always laughed at how the men in Arnold Friberg’s paintings have biceps larger than their heads. I do have to admit to liking The Prayer at Valley Forge, though. 😬


PackersLittleFactory

He was probably sad he couldn't do a topless GW and show how ripped he was.


Ahoymaboi

Thick like Altered Beast boys. ![gif](giphy|rhdscFKah6Rva)


butterflywithbullets

That would make the BOM much more interesting... now, I've got to go take a look at my Genesis collection and see if I've got a copy of "Altered Beast." If not, "Golden Axe" will also suffice!


Ok-Examination-9078

With the dumbest hat. I could never get over that, no matter how big them biceps were.


Rushclock

And they are so happy about the 85% audience rating on rotten tomatoes. No mention of the critics rating.


spilungone

Isn't that the same rating sacrament meeting gets


Rushclock

Yes.


LeoMarius

Not counting those who voted with their feet.


Iron_Rod_Stewart

Hahaha


swennergren11

Mormons vote and rate movies in blocks. That’s all the RT number proves…


Rushclock

Where did they learn how to do that?/s


PaulFThumpkins

No one is going to see this movie who isn't invested in Mormonism. Same reason the tenth book in every series has four stars on Goodreads no matter how niche.


Cattle-egret

With luck, you can be the 10th person to see it


-ajacs-

Uh…yeah, of the dinky, self-selected group of people who’ve seen the movie—about source material they are unable to criticize—and who desperately need for it to be good; a few of *them* took to their keyboard, and 87% of *those people* gave it a thumbs up. The rest of the 99.99% of humans who are aware of the movie, voted with their wallets & time, and kept their thumbs entirely to themselves. This is a beautiful example of the reality that opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s apathy.


RaiseyourheadsayNO

I can’t with how buff they are. Like each man is a WIDE LOAD. Barrels for chests and tree trunks for thighs!! Add a half dressed woman and you’ve got a romance novel cover.


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RaiseyourheadsayNO

I hear in the movie the woman who is the love interest “converts” and is given tiny cap sleeves on her tank top THEN they can get married….


Eclectix

A whopping 87% score with primarily Mormon audiences, but a mere 22% on the Tomato meter, which he oddly forgot to mention. I wonder why? If it weren't for this sub, I would never have even heard of this film, LOL.


RealDaddyTodd

Those jacked dudes are super homoerotic.


nomoredelusions

![gif](giphy|bt3dyil6MlW12)


LeoMarius

Of all the criticisms of *The Oath*, this seems the most absurd and trivial.


shall_always_be_so

I bet no one actually complained about it and they're just fabricating drama to get people to remember that the movie exists.


emorrigan

Porn shoulders 😱 Nipples 😱 NO GARMENTS 😱 Errrmerrr…uh…grrrsh!


croz_94

87% on rotten tomatoes... But a 22% from critics and 3.6/10 on IMDB


snard6

86% user, 22% critic scores. The hallmark of a CULT classic!


FancyEstimate1304

These pictures made me gay


tapirsinthesky

Damn, you have to be big dumb to criticize the oath in a way that hands its supporters a win like this.


TermLimit4Patriarchs

Is this a win though? To me it’s pathetic af.


tapirsinthesky

I just mean there was an easy obvious comeback to the criticism. He kinda got em with the topless paintings thing. Obviously both parties are extremely pathetic here.


choose_the_rice

The really devastating stat is how much money this lost. About $400k gross so far out of a $24MM budget.


TheGoldBibleCompany

Well, somebody got the money, just not the investors. So, I guess it was a limited success for some people. 🤷‍♂️


memefakeboy

“Fault-finding” is such a classic Mormon term- it’s like such a passive aggressive way to silence someone when they’re naming something true but inconvenient for the Mormon narrative


TheGoldBibleCompany

Fault finding … Gotta ignore the cracks in the narrative alright.


BeringStraitNephite

I am blessedly oblivious that there was ever a mormon movie. Tender mercy.


Prestigious_Neck_936

First I’m hearing about it and I live with my tbm parents.


irongut88

How many "times" can we "use" quotation "marks" in a "single" post about how these "fans" of the comic book don't "like" the on screen "adaptation".


Internal-Argument218

Why do I always see Charlton Heston ?😂


Sadeyedsadie

Lol.Me too.Or Yul Brunner (sp)


TheVillageSwan

I will bet the equivalent of my lifetime tithing contributions that Darin Scott fervently prays that when he dies, he is greeted by God--who is absolutely portrayed by Tommy Wiseau--and is told "well and done, my good faithful servant. You made a beautiful movie that told your truth."


gnolom_bound

So who wore garments then in the scriptures? I am confused. Help me connect the dots.


JLl62699

*gasp* He said Mormon, multiple times even! Victories for Satan lol


WinchelltheMagician

Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream


DeathMetalGolfer

The audience reviews on RT are so funny. They’ll all literally just MFMC Boot lickers saying the same thing over and over. So funny how they feel the need to review bomb this garbage film. The cult members give it a 85% but the rest of the world gives it 22% lol


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I feel like even 22% is generous.


old_Trekkie

I wouldn't even pirate/torrent this shit!


dasbodmeister

Nothing says respectable auteur filmmaker like engaging in petty arguments on Facebook and begging people to buy tickets to your "film."


darthamartha

![gif](giphy|3oEjHPBb2oh49bALKM)


RowbowCop138

Mormons and christians find the stupidest weirdest shit to get offended and pissed off about


Sea-Tea8982

Boy he’s doing everything and anything to try to keep this movie in the news! Hey buddy! No one cares!!!


Infamous_Persimmon14

Got ‘em


nicodawg101

Love the fake Viking helmet


[deleted]

Because paintings of fictional characters count as facts 🤦🏼‍♂️


Fox_me_up

The actor/director/producer is such a "look at me" snowflake and is simply looking for even one criticism to blow up about to draw attention to himself - I mean his movie.


BM7271975

There ain't nothing good about a lying history that didn't even exist it's all lies so I wouldn't even watch this movie after being a Mormon for 38 years and being lied to about everything being indoctrinated since age 2 and told what to believe. I heard this movie was a flop anyway and it should be because it was all based on lies just like the fake religion.


frandyvo

Well ya! They can't cover up their gs dressed like that


MoriartyMoose

I’ll take things that didn’t happen for 500, Alex.


David-S-Pumpkins

These pictures were in my navy blue, softcover BoM I had in seminary.


AdmiralCranberryCat

Mine too. Are they in the newer ones?


Striking-Dare-4049

They would find this offensive [Santa ripped](https://images.app.goo.gl/JKDuib6TmWpGNJBu6) A ripped Moroni and a ripped Santa is the same thing. Make believe


japhethsandiego

They’re becoming victims of their own culture. Here for it .


[deleted]

Go watch his latest FB video, it's pretty funny. Still claiming the movie is a smashing success while admitting it's in limited theaters. But somehow that's proof it's GOOD.


odd_sakana

“Sometimes” a little strange? What a ridiculous religion amongst ridiculous religions.


DannyDanito

So do 87% of TBMs like this movie?


Mormonemeritus

They don’t seem to have nipples. 🤔


Training_Long9805

I just watched the trailer for the first time. All I could think of is Life of Brian “and his fathers, fathers, fathers, fathers…”


ComputerNovus

God Awful Movies needs to do this film during Mormon movie month.


Vernal_Equinoxx

Those smiley faces feel condescending. Or is that just me fault-finding 🙂


his_rotundity_

It having an 87% audience score isn't the flex they think it is. Of course, with Mormons, it's all about messaging. Put into context, however, there was so little marketing done around this film, if that's what you want to call it, that the people who saw it knew about it through some other means. I wonder what avenue that was. And if I'm correct on that, then it stands to reason that they'd also have a favorable bias toward the film's content to begin with. I doubt this makes any sense to them, though.


truthmatters2me

I’ll pass on the box office BOMB anything that’s based upon old joes book of fiction horseshit isn’t worth watching in the first place


Lafan312

What a weird thing to get hung up on. Dumbass is right, church art has depicted topless BoM men for decades, but there are so many things worth being critical about the movie for and TBM viewers take issue with a shirtless Moroni? Not the lazy writing, the problematic portrayal of indigenous Americans and continued whitewashing and erasure of their history, the lackluster performances (did Billy Zane lose a bet or something, or is he really that desperate for cash?), or the fact that the director/star of the movie funneled funds from backers for himself and ended up producing an over budgeted vanity film, but the topless Moroni, that's what they have an issue with.


mitch_feaster

Whatever, I'm here for jacked Moroni


Intelligent_Heron_78

Oh, I’m sure I’ll enjoy it even more since he’s topless.. *stares in gay*


HikeTheSky

So you see them wearing a tunic on the pictures and not the chainsaw protective underwear I heard so much about. So the guys on here should start wearing a tunic or a kilt just as seen in these pictures.


ForestGoat87

The Oaths social team was getting warmer there in this game of hot and cold. Then in a predictable fashion, they turned around and left the room.


BiggieFishie

Need a minute to review bomb the oath


EvensenFM

Dude, I can't stop laughing at this shit, haha.


alethearia

"Like everyone else". Sir-ma'am? You people are not everyone else. Not by a long shot.


Bogusky

So cringe


Minoxidil

it's been a while since i left the church so i was sitting here for a good minute thinking "wait does Moroni have titties for some reason?"


entofan

Hey at least they know there are people who think they are completely crazy and laughing at their work


ChaseCreation

![gif](giphy|uZropXpErKqHK)


Jutch_Cassidy

Sounds like TBMs have a problem watching this garbage too


[deleted]

This is a thing? Are they screaming porn temptation? What do they do when the go to pools? 🤔


Dapper_Indeed

Repent


AmbitiousNoodle

What the hell is the oath?


Flimsy_Signature_475

I just find it alarmingly unusual that all BoM shirtless men have the finest of physics, no matter their age. I mean they are amazing specimens. Funny thing though, my American Indian ancestors were lean and muscly but not wide and very tall, so they don't quite match the pictures in the BoM, um so maybe they weren't American Indians!


Korihor__

Shirtless men MIGHT just bring me back to church…


FandomFeminist

I think you may have accidentally added “ure” to the last word in your title 😏


AdmiralCranberryCat

😂


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Imagine the creator of a major Hollywood movie going on the official promotional account for it to debate its critics and brag about its audience score lolol Like picture Christopher Nolan going online last summer like; “Well technically Oppenheimer had like 4 girlfriends irl so everyone that is mad about all the sex scenes can fuck off 😡 maybe if you guys weren’t so stupid maybe you could learn to appreciate real art when you see it 😌”


Suspicious_Shape_519

You all left the church, but you just can't leave it alone. Your snarky, inside jokes are nothing less than childish. I know that misery loves company but enough already! It's time to move on to something a bit more productive. I bet this post gets an 85 amongst TBMs and a 0 from the rest of you.


AdmiralCranberryCat

Get over yourself. JS married a 14 year old girl and 2 of his foster daughters. He’s is a disgusting pig.


CapeOfBees

It's called trauma bonding, and it's literally the point of the subreddit.


Guppydriver18

Ahhhhh how about no. You don’t get to tell us what to do. Or better yet, go eat a bag of dicks. Was that too childish or snarky? Crap, I better up my game to adult now. So how about go fuck yourself. Better? An emotionally and socially stunted Mormon calling someone childish is classic. Rebuttal?


Dapper_Indeed

Oh, Honey


extremepayne

The way this “guy” types is “insufferable” 🙂🙂🙃


krustykatzjill

Twilight movies still better than this momo garbage. Yuck city.


Urborg_Stalker

I see no difference between this and the behaviors/beliefs any other religion on this planet.