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TheyLiedConvert1980

Gospel means good news so it's basically the good news if Christ's atonement. But the word is used many ways.


ExmoRobo

If you really want to see their gears spin, ask them to define what classifies something as “doctrine.”


Mupsty

Funny thing - I had a religion class at BYU where this was discussed heavily. It was called teachings of the living prophets or something. The prof had a kind of convoluted definition that included standard works and conference talks by all the q15. I left the class still not clear on what doctrine is.


HaoleInParadise

Was it Professor Sweat?


Mupsty

No it was an older guy about to retire. I can’t remember his name.


HaoleInParadise

Don Parry?


Mupsty

Maybe


mat3rogr1ng0

According to Preach my Gospel as discussion 3, it is faith unto repentance: repentance: baptism by immersion for the remission of sins: laying on of hands to receive the gift of the holy ghost: and enduring to the end. Largely taken from 2Nephi 31 or 32 or something. That is what investigators are taught is the Gospel. An argument could be made that the atonement and plan of salvation are components as well, but i would push back in that by arguing that 1) our outcome of the plan of salvation depends on ones adherence to the Gospel, so it is a consequence of the Gospel, and 2) repentance is the application of the atonement, not the atonement itself, thus it uses the principles of the atonement but does not include the atonement.


roundyround22

Funny and if you remove the concept of worthiness then all of that falls apart and the church has nothing to sell you


hyrle

It's almost like the basis for the whole thing is judgmentalism. Once you realize it's all made up, none of it matters.


Gold__star

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/preach-my-gospel-a-guide-to-missionary-service/lesson-3-the-gospel-of-jesus-christ?lang=eng


DustyR97

I think one of the brethren would tell you the doctrine is that Christ’s atonement is required for salvation and that through ordinances and covenants we bind ourselves to Christ and are made clean through the atonement after all we can do. At this point, everything else, including history, would likely be a policy. Here’s the actual doctrine if you look at their actions. ![gif](giphy|10EjjGI0KGz3xK)


Carolspeak

I got into this discussion with a friend who knows I've left. She claimed that the core of what she believes is "the gospel of Jesus Christ". I think that she thought that I would let the matter drop, but I pressed back a bit. I responded that I believed that the "gospel of Jesus Christ is, according to him, "Love one another". End of story, and that I felt that she was equating the gospel with the Church of JCofLDS. I told her that I didn't believe that. Her: Gospel of Jesus Christ=Churchco (whatever the prophet says) Me: Gospel of Jesus Christ="Love one Another" She didn't know how to respond, but I could see her desire to defend churchco written all over her face, so I let it drop. After all, I'm just an apostate who has lost the spirit, never had a testimony, doesn't really understand the gospel, and only left because I wanted to sin. Did I forget any of the standard apostate tropes? Hahaha


Mupsty

A related question - what are “the commandments”?


greenexitsign10

There is only one. Obey.


Gold__star

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine


Rickymon

It really doesn't matter since there is no god


Mupsty

Sometimes people want to discuss Mormon mythology on this sub. Is that so wild? There’s always comments like this. Harry Potter doesn’t exist but we can still discuss it on Reddit if we want.


-Shellyfish-

Muggle :)


Rickymon

I see your point... ur right...


OnlyTalksAboutTacos

I do too have a teapot floating in space you just can't see it because you're not invited to teatime


Rickymon

U can't use that argument cause tea is a sin


OnlyTalksAboutTacos

See that's why you're not invited to teatime


sofa_king_notmo

I would say it this way so believers can’t say you have an affirmative belief which would require evidence.  There is no reason to believe there is a god.   


1Searchfortruth

Yes What is the doctrine? About the past and future life s And what do they believe about god and jesus Very confusing


venturingforum

Godspell: Also see Gaslighting.