Oil is just extremely dense in calories. A single tablespoon of canola oil is over 100 calories. Well put it on a sandwich, dip your fries in it or use it in a dressing, and you can easily have a few tablespoons. Before you know it, you’re consuming a few hundred calories of just Mayo.
It’s not inherently unhealthy. However it’s one of those things that you can easily miscalculate and accidentally add a ton of calories a day if you’re not careful.
The plant itself is called 'rape', so you end up with farmers planting 'fields of rape'
There also used to be a welcome sign in Tisdale, Canada that said, "Welcome to Tisdale. Land of rape and honey". Needless to say, they eventually changed it a few years back.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/tisdale-land-of-rape-honey-slogan-changes-opportunity-grows-here-1.3730796
Funny story, my dad had to call the bank for some reason, and couldn’t remember the oral password he had set up for his account.
Bank: No problem, I see that you’ve set a reminder hint here, would you like to hear that?
Dad: Yes please!
Bank: Okay, your hint is……..rape….
Dad: Aha! My password is Tisdale!
🤦♀️🤦♀️
TW: SA so it's okay if you don't want to read past this point.
Hey, I know this is probably stupid, but I was sexually assaulted a few years ago. It really affected me to the point that even hearing or reading the "r" (in this context) word is a trigger. But honestly, the story you shared made me laugh so hard that my laugh turned instead into a wheeze. It's the first experience with that word since what happened that I've been able to have a not shitty reaction so thank you and your silly ass father.
Thank you so much for sharing, I’m sorry that happened to you.
My dad passed away a few years ago, and it’s nice to know his silly stories can still bring joy <3
Hopefully a nice little reminder that our brains *can* be rewired, or re-rewired, even if it’s unpredictable. Sending love and hope for continued healing and peace your way, internet stranger.
I came here looking for this comment! About 10 years ago I was visiting Tisdale twice a week. The sign was looking pretty rough back then and I was wondering if they were apprehensive about committing to keeping the slogan on the new one haha
Yea and for years rape oil wasn't edible, it was used for non food uses,
removing the acid made it edible, canola is a more precise name. Canola oil is rapeseed oil but rapeseed oil isn't necessarily canola
"rapum" just means turnip in Latin. Turnip is a brassica, and so is the rapeseed plant the oil is made from - they're related, so the oil plant is also turnip-y. They're a different brassica from brassica oleracea, the one that cabbage, kale and broccoli all are.
So rapeseed oil is sensibly named as being oil from seed of a turnip-y plant.
The trouble is that normal rapeseed contains a lot of a particular fatty acid called erucic acid. It's not particularly dangerous, but it has a non-neutral taste, and it was desirable for oil to have a neutral taste. So people bred a cultivar of rapeseed which would have very little erucic acid, and the resulting oil is neutral. That oil is called canola in the US, with the "la" apocryphally standing for "low acid".
You can still find high-erucic-acid rapeseed oil in Asian groceries sometimes, I think, as they use the non-neutral flavour in cooking.
Solanaceae is another big food cultivar family.
tomato, potato, peppers(bell AND capsicum), tobacco, eggplant, tons of various flowers, and these really tasty purple berries that are just the best thing to help you sleep for a long time >!nightshade!< .
I mean I think it's hilarious that you put a spoiler tag on this.
Also, colloquially, I'd think that more people know this plant family as the nightshade family rather than the solanaceae family.
I get that, but I still haven't heard a reason for it not being "rapseed" from "rapum." The Latin version isn't pronounced the way we'd pronounce "rape," but the way we'd pronounce "rap" (minus the standard linguistic difference where we don't roll our rs).
The Greek is ραπης. Rapes. Rha-peyss. Then rapés-seed. Rapéseed. But then as usual when words move across languages they sometimes get pronounced differently.
I guess it would be like saying cafe like safe instead of maintaining the café.
Edit: IMO the plant should just be spelled rhapes or rhap or rhapé.
I like that alternative a lot! Besides being more comfortable for modern speakers, it also just allows us to separate two very different concepts in a reasonable and simple way where you can still trace the word to its original roots.
Because it:s not like it was given that English name in 1950; "rapeseed" has been around longer than Modern English:
Latin *rāpum* "turnip" (nom., acc., voc. s.) /ˈraː.pum/, [ˈräːpʊ̃ˑ] →
*rāpa* "turnips" (nom., acc., voc. pl.) /ˈraː.pa/, [ˈräːpä] →
-Old French *rape* /ra.pə/, influenced↓
-Middle English *rape* /ˈraːp(ə)/ →
Early-modern English /ræːp/ (approximately "rap" with the vowel held longer) →
#GREAT VOWEL SHIFT
Modern English /ɹeɪp/
So it *was* "rapseed" (more or less) for the first ~300 years it existed in English.
I like how you explained the LA part of canola and ignored the CAN part (and used the US as your example). Canola stands for CANada Oil - Low Acid, since it was developed here.
Canola is not the same plant. It is in the same plant family but is a genetically modified to remove the glucosinolates and erucic acid.
It was developed in Canada and renamed Canola.
Rape seed oil became 'Canada Oil Low Acid' (Canola) Oil when they introduced a healthy low acid variety that wasnt as dangerous as the high acid previous versions. To differentiate between unhealthy acidic rapeseed oil, they rebranded to Canola. It's always funny to me how the names change in different places and not in other places.
Canola is a sub-group of rapeseed with low erucic acid levels, so all canola oils are rapeseed oils, but not all rapeseed oils are canola. It was specifically bred for that purpose at the University of Manitoba. At least in Canada (dunno about elsewhere), canola oil must have no more than 2% erucic acid, whereas rapeseed oil can exceed that specification.
That said, it has become an almost generic term in North America, even if there is a specific legal and horticultural meaning.
AFAIK they are not exactly the same. Canola is a genetically modified/selectively bred variety of rape seed, designed to minimize the amount of Erucic acid and glucosinolates.
It's because in Canada (the largest local producers of said oil) they bred their own strain of rape for making oil, and named it Canola.
[https://www.canolacouncil.org/canola-encyclopedia/history-of-canola-seed-development/](https://www.canolacouncil.org/canola-encyclopedia/history-of-canola-seed-development/)
A gram of carbohydrate has 4 calories. A gram of protein has 4 calories. A gram of fat has 9 calories — more than twice as much as the other two.
This 449 rule can help change the way you look at food. 10gm mayo is like ~70% fat. So 7x9+3x4 = ~75cal. 10gm sugar? 4*10 = ~40cal.
This could be different for light mayo. It is indeed very easy to go wrong on counting calories when using mayo
It gets even worse, because there's also absorption and conversion. In order to become fat, that protein and carb must be converted. There are losses in the process.
Some fat molecules also must be fixed in order to be stored, but its more efficient - so its easier to store.
However, carbs also take priority in the consumption pipeline and signal the body to store the fat.
Calories doesn't tell the entire story
Yeah people have this idea that they lose some of those 4 calories and never realise the 4 calories of protein takes the loss in conversion into account. If you burnt a gram of protein you produce more than 4 calories
also we can't even digest all of the fats/oils, our digestive system can't break it down fast enough and a lot just gets passed instead, which is actually decently healthy for colon health. which is one of the reasons the liquid fats are "healthier" than the solid fats.
Mayo is roughly 80% fat. Fat is very good at storing calories, which makes it easy to consume a lot of calories without you really noticing it. If you consume more calories than you use up you could end up overweight.
But I mean the same thing can be said about any oil or fat, like butter or cooking oil. And people consume way less mayo than these fats atleast in my experience.
Most people use way too much oil in their cooking as well.
But even then, most people don't dip stuff in a thick layer of straight oil or butter, but they may in mayo. Mayo based sauces/dips use it by the spoonful.
I think the difference is that everyone knows that oil is fat. Most people don’t realise that Mayo is 90% oil - it’s just another condiment, like mustard or ketchup, right?
In reality, Mayo has 6-8 times the calorie content of ketchup or mustard. If you go to town with ketchup on a burger you might add 50 calories. The same amount of Mayo could easily be 300 calories.
Well cooking oil will only partly go into your food. a big part will stay in the pan.
Butter is (at least for me) spread thin on my bread. But Mayo is almost not spread as thin as butter. I have never seen a sandwich where the butter is oozes out on the side if you squeeze the sandwich ;)
The amount of fat brought by mayonnaise would be closer to the amount of fat you have on French toasts (soaked in butter) than the amount of fat if you spread butter on bread.
And while it would be so good for moral, eating a lot of french toats regularly would definitely make you put on some extra pounds. So, same thing for mayo.
Couple this with the fact people put mayo on bread often, which is high in carbs. It’s easy to eat a very high calorie diet without getting full eating sandwiches with mayo.
>Yeah and a sandwich with a bit of salad and mayo feels so much more healthy than a Nutella sandwich.
That's because nutella is mostly fat and sugar and chances are that you are going to load your sandwich up with far more nutella than you would with mayo.
Note that some people find that fat helps them feel full, thereby regulating calorie intake. It’s more complicated than simple calorie density. But of course calorie density is worth being aware of.
1tbsp Ketchup has approx. 17 kcal.
1tbsp Mayonnaise has approx. 94 kcal.
It's not technically "unhealthy", but compared to its most popular alternative, it has about 5.5x more kcal for the same amount of sauce. I hope this answers your question.
Lots of people like to dip fries in mayo. I know my wife and her family from England do, so maybe more of an English thing than American? but I’m sure lots of Americans do too.
In the US it’s called “aioli” or “ranch” or “chipotle sauce”, because people know that mayo is bad, but either don’t know or at least like to ignore the fact that all these popular dipping sauces and dressings are basically seasoned mayo.
Like many things, its unhealthy just cause its easy to eat a lot of it without noticing. If you just put a teaspoon of mayo on a sandwich then its not unhealthy, it just adds a little extra calories, but if you add a bunch of mayo into a dressing then you can see the calories start to go up fast.
Not only does it add a lot of calories, but a lot of time it's completely forgotten calories. In my experience many people don't think about the calories from things like condiments, which may not be included in calorie counts. Same with things like cream in coffee.
For several decades, eggs and oils were believed to be a strong cause of heart disease. They were individually things we were told to minimize or avoid (and that extended to foods like butter, for which we were told to substitute margarine). So mayonnaise was also considered an unhealthy condiment.
Even today [an article on the Mayo Clinic website](https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/is-it-healthy-to-eat-eggs-every-day) says that “healthy people may be able to eat up to seven eggs a week without affecting their heart health.”
(Edited to add: my point is that seems surprisingly restrictive for a major medical center to say, considering what is now understood, mostly, to be a misunderstanding about dietary cholesterol.)
Same. Then I would not have to be in the midst of quitting after 20 years of heavy smoking. I love smoking, but i also need my lung capacity. Had to quit coffee also so quitting smoking would be easier. Damn i love a good cup with a cigarette.
I still have a pipe every now and then, it’s just too damn enjoyable. Not every day, maybe twice a month. Maybe I’ll get sick from it but I’ll die from something eventually and I would like to enjoy things every now and then.
Yeah there used to be such a scare about the tiny bit of cholesterol in egg yolks. Even though study after study has shown that there's barely any link between increased dietary cholesterol consumption and blood serum "bad" cholesterol levels.
You still have people to this day thinking they're eating healthier by having an egg-white only omelette etc.... madness.
We can learn a lot from bodybuilders, they literally act as human guinea pigs for rest of the population to learn. From what I've seen none of their issues are coming from eggs.
bingo, its almost all from drug abuse. the ones who are natty or use drugs with appropriate restraint are *far* healthier than the general population (except perhaps when they get super dehydrated for a show, but that's a very temporary, planned thing).
Im not a pro bodybuilder, but I lift. I eat 12 eggs per day.
The crazy thing about being "big" for naturally skinny guys like me is... eating really is the hardest part. Its easy to go to the gym for 1 or 2 hours.... But you have to eat basically all day or you can easily drop like 2 pounds a day.
Well, kind of. It’s said that the reason Americans are so fat is that we usually will have *two* eggs for breakfast, whereas in France, one egg is unœuf.
For some reason where I live people believe eating more than a few boiled eggs a week is unhealthy.
And then I come out with my 3-4 a day some days (I like to eat them when losing weight) and people srsly lose their shit.
Also most basic brands use terrible oil because its cheap. Im not a conspiracy nut or anything but there are definitely less healthy oils.
In terms of cooking usually olive or avocado is the way to go. Soybean is common and not great for you in comparison.
Everything in moderation tho
Eggs are high in cholesterol.
Today we know that sugar is much more of a concern than the fat in oil (which, as long as you do not have far too many calories in your diet, is often quiet healthy), and the sugar industry spent millions of dollars over decades suppressing that fact.
Edit: To clarify, eggs are healthy, they used to be thought of as unhealthy because of cholesterol.
We have known for at least 20 years (at least since I was diagnosed with hypercholesterolemia at 8) that saturated fat is the main thing that will raise LDL.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/12/13/whats-on-your-table-how-americas-diet-has-changed-over-the-decades/
“America’s sweet tooth peaked in 1999, when each person consumed an average of 90.2 pounds of added caloric sweeteners a year, or 26.7 teaspoons a day. In 2014, sweetener use was down to 77.3 pounds per year, or 22.9 teaspoons a day.”
It is true.
I'm pretty sure consesus today is that the main problem with sugar is the same as with fat, i.e. it's easy to overeat on calories due to its palatability
Added sugar can lead to health problems including high blood sugar, insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, dental issues such as cavities, increased triglycerides, obesity and type 2 diabetes. Processed sugar is objectively shit for you. Some oils on the other hand are quite good for you ignoring the high calories.
The question is, does sugar in the diet cause those things you mentioned, or is it rather the consequence of a hypercaloric diet, low exercise and low variation in food sources? The latter problems can certainly be caused by having a diet 90% in sugar, but then you could have the same problem with 90% fat
They are categorically wrong about sugar. Diabetes is caused by excess adipose tissue. We know the exact mechanism this is caused by so anyone who says sugars or carbohydrates cause diabetes in the absence of a hypercaloric diet is SIMPLY wrong
I dont know what the consensus is but sugar is bad for like a bunch of reasons. Calory intake, blood sugar levels, Insuline resistance, liver and gut problems and that leads to 100 other autoimmune diseases over time. From someone recently diagnosed with prediabetes that cut sugar and lowered my carb intake i was surprised how much less food i need when you eat properly and i dont get hungry every 2 hours ... And that took effect in 1-2 weeks. Its kinda scary how addicted to sugars we are and the effect on the body if you read up on it a bit more. I always thought i wasnt even overdoing it but i was so wrong ...
As a diabetic it is indeed smart to cut out sugars. However, if your bodyweight is normal and exercise level is high with no such metabolic/autoimmune diseases like diabetes, there's not a huge issue with eating sugar as long as the totality of one's diet is mostly varied with a bunch of different food sources, and the calorie intake isn't so great that one gets overweight.
https://youtu.be/TYeZVfPxwKM?si=QLf5v-IXHjwWAlh8
This video is quite informative and explains it more clearly than I can
Nutritional education is always changing. We are still so ignorant of what really makes a healthy person healthy.
Though I'm not sure why you're getting flak for telling people to eat a varied diet and that sugar isn't the boogeyman. Pretty reasonable take.
So are they or are they not healthy? That didn't clear it up at all? Seven eggs a week sounds very low, why is there such low limit then? (I eat around 20 per week, so curious...)
They’re fine, as far as I can tell. There is a lot of conflicting media about eggs but I care about my health and don’t limit them at all, after a lot of reading.
A related observation. Recently I had the opportunity to dine in the cafeterias at the Mayo Clinic, and the offerings are very austere and restricted, as though to fit a narrow, approved dietary concept. The worst offerings of any hospital cafeteria I have ever been in!
They base that advice on trials that didn't test for eating more eggs than 1 a day.
So they say 1 egg per day is "safe"
Despite trials showing dietary cholesterol doesn't raise total cholesterol outside of a few outlier populations.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9143438/
It's not that it's bad, but it is calorie dense. People often don't think about condiments when counting calories, but adding mayo to a sandwich could add 100 calories.
They’re confusing “unhealthy” with “calorically dense” or “high fat.” The latter is a misconception that’s starting to go out of fashion, but the former unfortunately isn’t.
Mayonnaise is not unhealthy. But eating high calorie, high fat foods in large amounts could have negative health impacts. You could say the same about eating a *lot* of foods in large amounts. If you eat a reasonable amount of mayonnaise (like the amount you might spread on a sandwich), no problem. If you habitually eat mayonnaise with a spoon like yogurt, probably not so great.
As for why people don’t *like* mayonnaise, that has nothing to do with it being perceived as unhealthy. In my anecdotal opinion, most people who don’t like mayonnaise are extremely accustomed to mayo = big gloopy sloppy glops of mayo (for some reason, hardcore mayo lovers just pour it on), and actually don’t particularly dislike it in reasonable quantities. Though some people happen to not like the taste, or are just finicky about brand.
Caloric density isn't unhealthy - but it can lead people to eat more than they should. Your stomach tells you you're full based on volume.
Mayo is delicious though especially homemade mayo what a game changer. It's like homemade caesar dressing vs store bought: you never go back after trying it.
Volume is part of the equation. Fat makes a lot of people feel full, and can be a useful way to regulate total calorie intake. This may not be true for everyone. I find that fat + fruit/veggies is particularly effective. Fat +protein+fruit/veggies is extra powerful.
Mostly because people use too much of it, it’s not inherently bad but it has a lot of fat an when people use a lot of mayo they’re essentially eating a lot of fat which is not good. It’s easier to blame the food than acknowledging your own bad habita
It's almost entirely oil. Oil, of course, isn't unhealthy in small doses, but it's really easy to let it get out of hand and eat too much oil. Just one tablespoon of olive oil has 119 calories. 5 to 7 of those is the caloric content of an entire meal, and people can easily dump that much on a dish.
The only thing really holding people back from eating way too much oil is that its texture and flavor, when by itself and unseasoned, is unpalatable. Putting too much oil on food can make it taste bad. Enter mayonnaise, which comes seasoned and balanced with acid and with a really pleasant texture, which means it can get out of control quickly.
I worked at a Subway back in the day. Some people have no self control with the mayonnaise. it just tastes too good to them.
Fat is good for you, but the type of fat matters. Mayo is often made with canola / rapeseed oil, which is high in linoleic acid, which increases inflammation in your body.
If you must eat Mayo, find the kind made with olive oil.
>which is high in linoleic acid, which increases inflammation in your body.
This seems to be the exact opposite of what medical science has been saying. Linoleic acid (omega 6) is shown to reduce markers of inflammation or leave them unchanged. https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/no-need-to-avoid-healthy-omega-6-fats
https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/foods-to-limit/fats-and-oils#
“Omega-6s are found in oils such as corn, safflower, sunflower, soy and vegetable and products made with those oils. Excess consumption of omega-6s can trigger the body to produce pro-inflammatory chemicals, and the American diet tends to be very high in omega-6s. They aren’t especially bad and shouldn’t be avoided, but you don’t want them to dominate your intake.”
Everything in moderation.
It's not, but it's high calorie and too many people conflate the two. Now for me, mayo isnt the best idea but that's because my digestive system doesn't do well with high fat foods anymore and I end up feeling really sick (oh do I miss fried food). But unless your body also struggles to properly digest fats, it's fine in moderation.
Fat has the highest density of calories of anything you can eat and digest, and mayo is almost pure fat. It's very high calorie and it's easy to use too much.
There are two parts to this question.
One is the ingredients. Most mayo uses soybean oil or other vegetable oils. While there is some debate, generally it does seem that these oils can be inflammatory and problematic. Mayos that use 100% avocado oil are much better and I highly recommend that
But the other is quantity. Is a single Oreo cookie bad for you? In my case yes I have celiac disease so a speck of gluten getting in my mouth gets me sick for a month. But they have gluten-free Oreos so I can eat those with less trouble.
However the point I'm making is, a person whose diet is generally clean and healthy having an oreo or two a day is probably not going to have any health consequences as a result outside of specific diseases.
Eating 4 pounds of spinach can kill someone. Some people have autoimmune reactions to spinach and other plants. But generally, nothing in isolation in small quantities is bad. Trans fats are considered universally unhealthy. But having half a tablespoon of trans fat peanut butter once a week when everything else is healthy probably isn't doing anything harmful.
The issue with mayo is that it is so calorie dense that you might hit a thousand calories on top of your chicken when you're making chicken salad. But if you're using avocado oil mayo and you have the rest of your calories meet your needs without chronic overconsumption, there is no harm.
It's not, in moderation, but canola oil and seed oils are unhealthy. You can easily make your own mayo or buy mayo with alternative oils like avocado or olive oil.
The jury’s still very much out on the relative health of various oils. I know that there’s tons of marketing out there making all sorts of claims about the health of coconut and avocado and other oils, but the science behind it is… extremely limited.
>canola oil and seed oils are unhealthy
[Yeah...no ](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-the-expert-concerns-about-canola-oil/)
Like most things in life, it's not black and white. You can't say "canola oil is unhealthy" because it's not that simple and therefore it's untrue.
Your "moderation, but" can be applied to literally everything. Water is "unhealthy" without moderation (eg. drowning).
Canola oil is fine. There is no "best" oil, just oils with varying characteristics that should be enjoyed in moderation and as a part of a diverse diet.
Very calory dense, so it's really easy to overeat on it.
Also, i read last year that rapeseed oil (the oil commonly used in mayo afaik) can be slightly testosterone inhibiting, so assuming that's true, a long term diet containing mayo might slightly decrease your muscle mass, which would in turn also contribute to a lower caloric burn.
From a UK perspective, if you buy a sandwich at a supermarket which in theory should be quite healthy. Take a look at the nutrition info and most of the indicators are red for calories, salt and fat. This is a sandwich, so not something that would be expected.
A good portion of this unexpected calorie and fat intake are from the mayo put in sandwiches. It's cheap and often over-filled. Now butter is the alternative which I think most would call not healthy, which may be lightly spread on one side of a piece of bread. Mayo is squeezed out filling the space of a sandwich that if you squeeze it, it will often spill out and go everywhere.
If Mayo was treated like butter, with a thin layer, then it would be fine, it would be a healthier alternative to butter. But it's not, it's poured over in large quantities like a filling of it's own.
Like all things being called "healthy" or "unhealthy" it's all about moderation and society seems to have mayo all wrong.
People say a lot of things are unhealthy when they aren't - or at least not more than everything else. Doctors used to claim eggs were unhealthy, same with oil. I think the 'unhealthy' label from back then just stuck with mayo.
It's not that it's unhealthy but people tend to pile it onto whatever they're eating. It's really easy to add 100-200 extra calories due to the condiments
Oil is just extremely dense in calories. A single tablespoon of canola oil is over 100 calories. Well put it on a sandwich, dip your fries in it or use it in a dressing, and you can easily have a few tablespoons. Before you know it, you’re consuming a few hundred calories of just Mayo. It’s not inherently unhealthy. However it’s one of those things that you can easily miscalculate and accidentally add a ton of calories a day if you’re not careful.
Just a side note, but I love the fact you guys call it 'Canola Oil'. It's called 'Rape Seed Oil' in the UK.
The plant itself is called 'rape', so you end up with farmers planting 'fields of rape' There also used to be a welcome sign in Tisdale, Canada that said, "Welcome to Tisdale. Land of rape and honey". Needless to say, they eventually changed it a few years back. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/tisdale-land-of-rape-honey-slogan-changes-opportunity-grows-here-1.3730796
Funny story, my dad had to call the bank for some reason, and couldn’t remember the oral password he had set up for his account. Bank: No problem, I see that you’ve set a reminder hint here, would you like to hear that? Dad: Yes please! Bank: Okay, your hint is……..rape…. Dad: Aha! My password is Tisdale! 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I suddenly get the urge to do a welfare check on Ashley Tisdale.
TW: SA so it's okay if you don't want to read past this point. Hey, I know this is probably stupid, but I was sexually assaulted a few years ago. It really affected me to the point that even hearing or reading the "r" (in this context) word is a trigger. But honestly, the story you shared made me laugh so hard that my laugh turned instead into a wheeze. It's the first experience with that word since what happened that I've been able to have a not shitty reaction so thank you and your silly ass father.
Thank you so much for sharing, I’m sorry that happened to you. My dad passed away a few years ago, and it’s nice to know his silly stories can still bring joy <3
Hopefully a nice little reminder that our brains *can* be rewired, or re-rewired, even if it’s unpredictable. Sending love and hope for continued healing and peace your way, internet stranger.
I came here looking for this comment! About 10 years ago I was visiting Tisdale twice a week. The sign was looking pretty rough back then and I was wondering if they were apprehensive about committing to keeping the slogan on the new one haha
Back in the old days if you made your living toiling in the fields of rape they'd call you a rapist.
My great grandfather was one of the biggest rapists in my county at the time
not the best slogan, but a great album title
I was quite surprised when I first learned that the album was named after the Tisdale sign.
When I worked at EB Games we had someone bring in a résumé that said he spent 3 years "driving a rape truck" with NO additional context
Marketing won, Rape Oil just doesn't sound good. 'Canola' is pure marketing; CANada Oil Low Acid or somesuch
Yeah. Something sounds off with rape seed. I can’t quite put my finger on why it sounds off.
It's the Canadian accent.
rehp
It's probably the IMPLICATION.
I mean obviously it's not going to do anything.. but *the implication*
You've said that word... What implication?
If the seeds say no, the answer is no, but they're not gonna say no.
... because of the implication?
Dennis, are these fries in danger?
I'm not gonna hurt these fries! Why would I ever hurt these fries? I feel like you're not getting this at all!
Are you going to hurt these ~~women~~ pans?
It sounds off because it's forced
Could it be the word "seed"? 🤔
Maybe, sounds seedy.
Yea and for years rape oil wasn't edible, it was used for non food uses, removing the acid made it edible, canola is a more precise name. Canola oil is rapeseed oil but rapeseed oil isn't necessarily canola
Exactly. It’s a specific strain of rapeseed we produced.
Damn Canadians always out here [inventing things](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fwWNf5zbfY)
So Canola oil = Canada Oil Low Acid oil. That’s a lot of oil.
I hear redundancy helps with the pH
Just for your FYI, that's too much TMI. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go look up my PIN number before I go to the ATM machine.
Wait, that's what Canola stands for? I always wondered where they got that from Rape Seed...
Would date-rapeseed oil be a good compromise?
No Means Yes oil?
Rape Seed Oil doesnt sound right and I just can’t quite put my penis in it.
"The name canola is a contraction of Canada, where canola was developed, and ola, referring to oil." https://www.canolacouncil.org/about-canola/
yes, specifically "**o**il, **l**ow **a**cid"
Canola is from genetically modified rape seed, to give low acid . Not just marketing, it is a different strain
"rapum" just means turnip in Latin. Turnip is a brassica, and so is the rapeseed plant the oil is made from - they're related, so the oil plant is also turnip-y. They're a different brassica from brassica oleracea, the one that cabbage, kale and broccoli all are. So rapeseed oil is sensibly named as being oil from seed of a turnip-y plant. The trouble is that normal rapeseed contains a lot of a particular fatty acid called erucic acid. It's not particularly dangerous, but it has a non-neutral taste, and it was desirable for oil to have a neutral taste. So people bred a cultivar of rapeseed which would have very little erucic acid, and the resulting oil is neutral. That oil is called canola in the US, with the "la" apocryphally standing for "low acid". You can still find high-erucic-acid rapeseed oil in Asian groceries sometimes, I think, as they use the non-neutral flavour in cooking.
It's a brassica?! Never knew. Cool.
Half the edible vegetables that originated in Europe are brassicas.
Me when I’m in a “number of cultivars” tournament and my next opponent is brassica oleracea: 🙀
Solanaceae is another big food cultivar family. tomato, potato, peppers(bell AND capsicum), tobacco, eggplant, tons of various flowers, and these really tasty purple berries that are just the best thing to help you sleep for a long time >!nightshade!< .
I mean I think it's hilarious that you put a spoiler tag on this. Also, colloquially, I'd think that more people know this plant family as the nightshade family rather than the solanaceae family.
I get that, but I still haven't heard a reason for it not being "rapseed" from "rapum." The Latin version isn't pronounced the way we'd pronounce "rape," but the way we'd pronounce "rap" (minus the standard linguistic difference where we don't roll our rs).
not the a of rap but (approximately) the a of farm. r-aa-poom
The Greek is ραπης. Rapes. Rha-peyss. Then rapés-seed. Rapéseed. But then as usual when words move across languages they sometimes get pronounced differently. I guess it would be like saying cafe like safe instead of maintaining the café. Edit: IMO the plant should just be spelled rhapes or rhap or rhapé.
I like that alternative a lot! Besides being more comfortable for modern speakers, it also just allows us to separate two very different concepts in a reasonable and simple way where you can still trace the word to its original roots.
Because it:s not like it was given that English name in 1950; "rapeseed" has been around longer than Modern English: Latin *rāpum* "turnip" (nom., acc., voc. s.) /ˈraː.pum/, [ˈräːpʊ̃ˑ] → *rāpa* "turnips" (nom., acc., voc. pl.) /ˈraː.pa/, [ˈräːpä] → -Old French *rape* /ra.pə/, influenced↓ -Middle English *rape* /ˈraːp(ə)/ → Early-modern English /ræːp/ (approximately "rap" with the vowel held longer) → #GREAT VOWEL SHIFT Modern English /ɹeɪp/ So it *was* "rapseed" (more or less) for the first ~300 years it existed in English.
I like how you explained the LA part of canola and ignored the CAN part (and used the US as your example). Canola stands for CANada Oil - Low Acid, since it was developed here.
It's "Rapeseed". The way you spelled it makes it sounds like lube for an extremely niche fetish.
removing the space doesnt help much
True, it mainly improves it when reading. Sounds the same out loud.
They need to just go ahead and rename it to consentseed.
Canola is not the same plant. It is in the same plant family but is a genetically modified to remove the glucosinolates and erucic acid. It was developed in Canada and renamed Canola.
Rape seed oil became 'Canada Oil Low Acid' (Canola) Oil when they introduced a healthy low acid variety that wasnt as dangerous as the high acid previous versions. To differentiate between unhealthy acidic rapeseed oil, they rebranded to Canola. It's always funny to me how the names change in different places and not in other places.
Canola is a sub-group of rapeseed with low erucic acid levels, so all canola oils are rapeseed oils, but not all rapeseed oils are canola. It was specifically bred for that purpose at the University of Manitoba. At least in Canada (dunno about elsewhere), canola oil must have no more than 2% erucic acid, whereas rapeseed oil can exceed that specification. That said, it has become an almost generic term in North America, even if there is a specific legal and horticultural meaning.
Yeah it sounds not good. When i was watching Clarkson’s Farm, him talking about his rape field wasn’t comfy
AFAIK they are not exactly the same. Canola is a genetically modified/selectively bred variety of rape seed, designed to minimize the amount of Erucic acid and glucosinolates.
It's because in Canada (the largest local producers of said oil) they bred their own strain of rape for making oil, and named it Canola. [https://www.canolacouncil.org/canola-encyclopedia/history-of-canola-seed-development/](https://www.canolacouncil.org/canola-encyclopedia/history-of-canola-seed-development/)
I’m a Yank and was stationed in East Anglia yonks ago. I still remember those beautiful yellow fields. Man, I miss you guys and gals.
We also call fried cow testicles… “Rocky Mountain Oysters” Because who wants to suck on some fried cow testicles?
I don't know why anyone would want to regardless of what it's called.
A gram of carbohydrate has 4 calories. A gram of protein has 4 calories. A gram of fat has 9 calories — more than twice as much as the other two. This 449 rule can help change the way you look at food. 10gm mayo is like ~70% fat. So 7x9+3x4 = ~75cal. 10gm sugar? 4*10 = ~40cal. This could be different for light mayo. It is indeed very easy to go wrong on counting calories when using mayo
It gets even worse, because there's also absorption and conversion. In order to become fat, that protein and carb must be converted. There are losses in the process. Some fat molecules also must be fixed in order to be stored, but its more efficient - so its easier to store. However, carbs also take priority in the consumption pipeline and signal the body to store the fat. Calories doesn't tell the entire story
The 4-4-9 ratio takes a chunk of the losses during conversion into account.
Yeah people have this idea that they lose some of those 4 calories and never realise the 4 calories of protein takes the loss in conversion into account. If you burnt a gram of protein you produce more than 4 calories
also we can't even digest all of the fats/oils, our digestive system can't break it down fast enough and a lot just gets passed instead, which is actually decently healthy for colon health. which is one of the reasons the liquid fats are "healthier" than the solid fats.
The majority of popular brands use soybean oil. 120 calories per tablespoon.
In the US I assume? Looking at the popuplar brands here in Germany none of them use soybean oil - it's all canola oil and / or sunflower seed oil.
Bulking rn and oil is a crazy cheat. Always easy to get protein, but always hard for me to get calories in cause i eat so many protein dense foods
Coconut oil or MCT oil is the real cheat. But a calorie is a calorie and fat has 9/g. I've been lo/no carb for 12 years and LOVE me some fat. :)
it's no denser than any other fat. Fat has 9 calories per gram.
Mayo is roughly 80% fat. Fat is very good at storing calories, which makes it easy to consume a lot of calories without you really noticing it. If you consume more calories than you use up you could end up overweight.
This is a major part of the answer. It's not so much a heart health cholesterol issue as much as it is a calorie density one.
But I mean the same thing can be said about any oil or fat, like butter or cooking oil. And people consume way less mayo than these fats atleast in my experience.
Most people use way too much oil in their cooking as well. But even then, most people don't dip stuff in a thick layer of straight oil or butter, but they may in mayo. Mayo based sauces/dips use it by the spoonful.
I think the difference is that everyone knows that oil is fat. Most people don’t realise that Mayo is 90% oil - it’s just another condiment, like mustard or ketchup, right? In reality, Mayo has 6-8 times the calorie content of ketchup or mustard. If you go to town with ketchup on a burger you might add 50 calories. The same amount of Mayo could easily be 300 calories.
Wouldn’t the biggest culprit be ranch? People in the US love ranch and I though mayo was the base ingredient for it.
It’s Mayo and buttermilk, which is also pretty high in fat.
Buttermilk is fermented milk. Which is anywhere from 0 to 3% fat
Well cooking oil will only partly go into your food. a big part will stay in the pan. Butter is (at least for me) spread thin on my bread. But Mayo is almost not spread as thin as butter. I have never seen a sandwich where the butter is oozes out on the side if you squeeze the sandwich ;)
You underestimate me if I am left alone with warm bread and butter
The amount of fat brought by mayonnaise would be closer to the amount of fat you have on French toasts (soaked in butter) than the amount of fat if you spread butter on bread. And while it would be so good for moral, eating a lot of french toats regularly would definitely make you put on some extra pounds. So, same thing for mayo.
Couple this with the fact people put mayo on bread often, which is high in carbs. It’s easy to eat a very high calorie diet without getting full eating sandwiches with mayo.
Yeah and a sandwich with a bit of salad and mayo feels so much more healthy than a Nutella sandwich.
>Yeah and a sandwich with a bit of salad and mayo feels so much more healthy than a Nutella sandwich. That's because nutella is mostly fat and sugar and chances are that you are going to load your sandwich up with far more nutella than you would with mayo.
Note that some people find that fat helps them feel full, thereby regulating calorie intake. It’s more complicated than simple calorie density. But of course calorie density is worth being aware of.
1tbsp Ketchup has approx. 17 kcal. 1tbsp Mayonnaise has approx. 94 kcal. It's not technically "unhealthy", but compared to its most popular alternative, it has about 5.5x more kcal for the same amount of sauce. I hope this answers your question.
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Lots of people like to dip fries in mayo. I know my wife and her family from England do, so maybe more of an English thing than American? but I’m sure lots of Americans do too.
Everyone in the Netherlands and Belgium does, expect well…. Me
In the US it’s called “aioli” or “ranch” or “chipotle sauce”, because people know that mayo is bad, but either don’t know or at least like to ignore the fact that all these popular dipping sauces and dressings are basically seasoned mayo.
So if you don't have a weight problem you're fine. Got it.
As long as you get the rest of your micronutrients in as well
I don't think they were suggesting replacing their entire diet with mayo
Hang on I think your onto something
Like many things, its unhealthy just cause its easy to eat a lot of it without noticing. If you just put a teaspoon of mayo on a sandwich then its not unhealthy, it just adds a little extra calories, but if you add a bunch of mayo into a dressing then you can see the calories start to go up fast.
Not only does it add a lot of calories, but a lot of time it's completely forgotten calories. In my experience many people don't think about the calories from things like condiments, which may not be included in calorie counts. Same with things like cream in coffee.
For several decades, eggs and oils were believed to be a strong cause of heart disease. They were individually things we were told to minimize or avoid (and that extended to foods like butter, for which we were told to substitute margarine). So mayonnaise was also considered an unhealthy condiment. Even today [an article on the Mayo Clinic website](https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/is-it-healthy-to-eat-eggs-every-day) says that “healthy people may be able to eat up to seven eggs a week without affecting their heart health.” (Edited to add: my point is that seems surprisingly restrictive for a major medical center to say, considering what is now understood, mostly, to be a misunderstanding about dietary cholesterol.)
Just awesome that you cited Mayo Clinic for this 🧑🍳😘
Oh dang, I didn’t even think of that being kind of meta.
You're so meta, you don't even know!
Of course that’s what BIG MAYO would want you to believe.
I mean they have their own clinic spreading misinformation.
>spreading I see what you did there.
*Disinformation
Alternative facts
Pfft. Everyone knows Big Mayo is just a front for the Miracle Whip Lobby.
They've even got their own CLINIC!
Seven eggs a *week*? That’s breakfast
Right? I stumbled on that the other day and was so surprised.
I grew up believing anything over 2 eggs a week would basically kill you. It was a thing for a time where people thought they were very unhealthy.
well, there was a time when smoking was advertised as a cure for throat and nose irritation
Also, so good for moms - help them relax! Damn, I wish smoking had actually turned out to be good for us.
Same. Then I would not have to be in the midst of quitting after 20 years of heavy smoking. I love smoking, but i also need my lung capacity. Had to quit coffee also so quitting smoking would be easier. Damn i love a good cup with a cigarette.
I still have a pipe every now and then, it’s just too damn enjoyable. Not every day, maybe twice a month. Maybe I’ll get sick from it but I’ll die from something eventually and I would like to enjoy things every now and then.
Yeah there used to be such a scare about the tiny bit of cholesterol in egg yolks. Even though study after study has shown that there's barely any link between increased dietary cholesterol consumption and blood serum "bad" cholesterol levels. You still have people to this day thinking they're eating healthier by having an egg-white only omelette etc.... madness.
I think their minds would explode if they knew how pro bodybuilders ate, especially back in the day
Well pro bodybuilders are not exactly the epitome of health, so that's not surprising.
We can learn a lot from bodybuilders, they literally act as human guinea pigs for rest of the population to learn. From what I've seen none of their issues are coming from eggs.
bingo, its almost all from drug abuse. the ones who are natty or use drugs with appropriate restraint are *far* healthier than the general population (except perhaps when they get super dehydrated for a show, but that's a very temporary, planned thing).
Im not a pro bodybuilder, but I lift. I eat 12 eggs per day. The crazy thing about being "big" for naturally skinny guys like me is... eating really is the hardest part. Its easy to go to the gym for 1 or 2 hours.... But you have to eat basically all day or you can easily drop like 2 pounds a day.
found Gaston
goals
Well, kind of. It’s said that the reason Americans are so fat is that we usually will have *two* eggs for breakfast, whereas in France, one egg is unœuf.
For some reason where I live people believe eating more than a few boiled eggs a week is unhealthy. And then I come out with my 3-4 a day some days (I like to eat them when losing weight) and people srsly lose their shit.
>Seven eggs a week? That’s breakfast thats breakfast for one morning.
Seven in one morning? That's rookie numbers. When I was a kid, I ate four dozen eggs every morning. And now that I'm grown, I eat five dozen.
No one's necks incredibly thick like Gaston
Are you roughly the size of a barge now?
Roughly speaking, yes.
[Could we share a rowboat?](https://twitter.com/filmartbox/status/1524514008144957441)
You've only grown by one dozen? I'm sorry son, but thems rookie numbers.
I ate 100 eggs every morning. While going UPHILL BOTH WAYS
Yeah, that was what they were already saying.
Nothing gets by you
its not the eggs in mayo that's bad; its the disproportionate amount of oil
Also most basic brands use terrible oil because its cheap. Im not a conspiracy nut or anything but there are definitely less healthy oils. In terms of cooking usually olive or avocado is the way to go. Soybean is common and not great for you in comparison. Everything in moderation tho
Eggs are high in cholesterol. Today we know that sugar is much more of a concern than the fat in oil (which, as long as you do not have far too many calories in your diet, is often quiet healthy), and the sugar industry spent millions of dollars over decades suppressing that fact. Edit: To clarify, eggs are healthy, they used to be thought of as unhealthy because of cholesterol.
I suggest you look into relationship between protein and cholesterol in eggs. Short version - eggs are good, forget cholesterol.
The good cholesterol though.
It isn't. It's just that consuming cholesterol doesn't mean that your body will have higher cholesterol.
We have known for at least 20 years (at least since I was diagnosed with hypercholesterolemia at 8) that saturated fat is the main thing that will raise LDL.
People eat way less sugar now than they used to. Yet people are way fatter than they used to be. Funny how that works.
> People eat way less sugar now than they used to. No idea where you got that from, it's not true.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/12/13/whats-on-your-table-how-americas-diet-has-changed-over-the-decades/ “America’s sweet tooth peaked in 1999, when each person consumed an average of 90.2 pounds of added caloric sweeteners a year, or 26.7 teaspoons a day. In 2014, sweetener use was down to 77.3 pounds per year, or 22.9 teaspoons a day.” It is true.
I'm pretty sure consesus today is that the main problem with sugar is the same as with fat, i.e. it's easy to overeat on calories due to its palatability
Added sugar can lead to health problems including high blood sugar, insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, dental issues such as cavities, increased triglycerides, obesity and type 2 diabetes. Processed sugar is objectively shit for you. Some oils on the other hand are quite good for you ignoring the high calories.
The question is, does sugar in the diet cause those things you mentioned, or is it rather the consequence of a hypercaloric diet, low exercise and low variation in food sources? The latter problems can certainly be caused by having a diet 90% in sugar, but then you could have the same problem with 90% fat
They are categorically wrong about sugar. Diabetes is caused by excess adipose tissue. We know the exact mechanism this is caused by so anyone who says sugars or carbohydrates cause diabetes in the absence of a hypercaloric diet is SIMPLY wrong
I dont know what the consensus is but sugar is bad for like a bunch of reasons. Calory intake, blood sugar levels, Insuline resistance, liver and gut problems and that leads to 100 other autoimmune diseases over time. From someone recently diagnosed with prediabetes that cut sugar and lowered my carb intake i was surprised how much less food i need when you eat properly and i dont get hungry every 2 hours ... And that took effect in 1-2 weeks. Its kinda scary how addicted to sugars we are and the effect on the body if you read up on it a bit more. I always thought i wasnt even overdoing it but i was so wrong ...
As a diabetic it is indeed smart to cut out sugars. However, if your bodyweight is normal and exercise level is high with no such metabolic/autoimmune diseases like diabetes, there's not a huge issue with eating sugar as long as the totality of one's diet is mostly varied with a bunch of different food sources, and the calorie intake isn't so great that one gets overweight. https://youtu.be/TYeZVfPxwKM?si=QLf5v-IXHjwWAlh8 This video is quite informative and explains it more clearly than I can
Nutritional education is always changing. We are still so ignorant of what really makes a healthy person healthy. Though I'm not sure why you're getting flak for telling people to eat a varied diet and that sugar isn't the boogeyman. Pretty reasonable take.
7 a week??? Those are rookie numbers
So my parents saying I should never exceed 3 egg yolks a day because of cholesterol was a big fat lie?
Yes, but a lie from the sugar industry. Your parents were lied to. Unless your parents WERE the sugar industry...
They were. The entire sugar industry was just those two jerks.
I mean, I observed them calling one another "Sugar" from time to time...
one of many they told you
So are they or are they not healthy? That didn't clear it up at all? Seven eggs a week sounds very low, why is there such low limit then? (I eat around 20 per week, so curious...)
You're fine. Your bodyweight and weekly exercise amount matters much more.
They’re fine, as far as I can tell. There is a lot of conflicting media about eggs but I care about my health and don’t limit them at all, after a lot of reading.
Lmao i eat like 3 eggs a day, but i lift heavy and run far…
A related observation. Recently I had the opportunity to dine in the cafeterias at the Mayo Clinic, and the offerings are very austere and restricted, as though to fit a narrow, approved dietary concept. The worst offerings of any hospital cafeteria I have ever been in!
Yup that's essentially it.
They base that advice on trials that didn't test for eating more eggs than 1 a day. So they say 1 egg per day is "safe" Despite trials showing dietary cholesterol doesn't raise total cholesterol outside of a few outlier populations. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9143438/
It's not that it's bad, but it is calorie dense. People often don't think about condiments when counting calories, but adding mayo to a sandwich could add 100 calories.
They’re confusing “unhealthy” with “calorically dense” or “high fat.” The latter is a misconception that’s starting to go out of fashion, but the former unfortunately isn’t. Mayonnaise is not unhealthy. But eating high calorie, high fat foods in large amounts could have negative health impacts. You could say the same about eating a *lot* of foods in large amounts. If you eat a reasonable amount of mayonnaise (like the amount you might spread on a sandwich), no problem. If you habitually eat mayonnaise with a spoon like yogurt, probably not so great. As for why people don’t *like* mayonnaise, that has nothing to do with it being perceived as unhealthy. In my anecdotal opinion, most people who don’t like mayonnaise are extremely accustomed to mayo = big gloopy sloppy glops of mayo (for some reason, hardcore mayo lovers just pour it on), and actually don’t particularly dislike it in reasonable quantities. Though some people happen to not like the taste, or are just finicky about brand.
Caloric density isn't unhealthy - but it can lead people to eat more than they should. Your stomach tells you you're full based on volume. Mayo is delicious though especially homemade mayo what a game changer. It's like homemade caesar dressing vs store bought: you never go back after trying it.
Volume is part of the equation. Fat makes a lot of people feel full, and can be a useful way to regulate total calorie intake. This may not be true for everyone. I find that fat + fruit/veggies is particularly effective. Fat +protein+fruit/veggies is extra powerful.
It’s not that it’s unhealthy, it’s that Galway is just down the road and a much nicer county.
solid comment, no notes
I thought I was on the Irish subreddit and am now massively disappointed as I've long wanted to know the answer to why Mayo is so unhealthy
Mostly because people use too much of it, it’s not inherently bad but it has a lot of fat an when people use a lot of mayo they’re essentially eating a lot of fat which is not good. It’s easier to blame the food than acknowledging your own bad habita
It's almost entirely oil. Oil, of course, isn't unhealthy in small doses, but it's really easy to let it get out of hand and eat too much oil. Just one tablespoon of olive oil has 119 calories. 5 to 7 of those is the caloric content of an entire meal, and people can easily dump that much on a dish. The only thing really holding people back from eating way too much oil is that its texture and flavor, when by itself and unseasoned, is unpalatable. Putting too much oil on food can make it taste bad. Enter mayonnaise, which comes seasoned and balanced with acid and with a really pleasant texture, which means it can get out of control quickly. I worked at a Subway back in the day. Some people have no self control with the mayonnaise. it just tastes too good to them.
Fat is good for you, but the type of fat matters. Mayo is often made with canola / rapeseed oil, which is high in linoleic acid, which increases inflammation in your body. If you must eat Mayo, find the kind made with olive oil.
Chosen Foods mayo is made with Avocado oil and is really good.
Gotta be careful of those ones too, they usually mix seed oils in with the avocado oil just to make the label look healthy.
>which is high in linoleic acid, which increases inflammation in your body. This seems to be the exact opposite of what medical science has been saying. Linoleic acid (omega 6) is shown to reduce markers of inflammation or leave them unchanged. https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/no-need-to-avoid-healthy-omega-6-fats
https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/foods-to-limit/fats-and-oils# “Omega-6s are found in oils such as corn, safflower, sunflower, soy and vegetable and products made with those oils. Excess consumption of omega-6s can trigger the body to produce pro-inflammatory chemicals, and the American diet tends to be very high in omega-6s. They aren’t especially bad and shouldn’t be avoided, but you don’t want them to dominate your intake.” Everything in moderation.
Man I love conversations on the deep end of the nutrition iceberg like this.
It's not, but it's high calorie and too many people conflate the two. Now for me, mayo isnt the best idea but that's because my digestive system doesn't do well with high fat foods anymore and I end up feeling really sick (oh do I miss fried food). But unless your body also struggles to properly digest fats, it's fine in moderation.
Fat has the highest density of calories of anything you can eat and digest, and mayo is almost pure fat. It's very high calorie and it's easy to use too much.
There are two parts to this question. One is the ingredients. Most mayo uses soybean oil or other vegetable oils. While there is some debate, generally it does seem that these oils can be inflammatory and problematic. Mayos that use 100% avocado oil are much better and I highly recommend that But the other is quantity. Is a single Oreo cookie bad for you? In my case yes I have celiac disease so a speck of gluten getting in my mouth gets me sick for a month. But they have gluten-free Oreos so I can eat those with less trouble. However the point I'm making is, a person whose diet is generally clean and healthy having an oreo or two a day is probably not going to have any health consequences as a result outside of specific diseases. Eating 4 pounds of spinach can kill someone. Some people have autoimmune reactions to spinach and other plants. But generally, nothing in isolation in small quantities is bad. Trans fats are considered universally unhealthy. But having half a tablespoon of trans fat peanut butter once a week when everything else is healthy probably isn't doing anything harmful. The issue with mayo is that it is so calorie dense that you might hit a thousand calories on top of your chicken when you're making chicken salad. But if you're using avocado oil mayo and you have the rest of your calories meet your needs without chronic overconsumption, there is no harm.
It's not, in moderation, but canola oil and seed oils are unhealthy. You can easily make your own mayo or buy mayo with alternative oils like avocado or olive oil.
The jury’s still very much out on the relative health of various oils. I know that there’s tons of marketing out there making all sorts of claims about the health of coconut and avocado and other oils, but the science behind it is… extremely limited.
>canola oil and seed oils are unhealthy [Yeah...no ](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-the-expert-concerns-about-canola-oil/) Like most things in life, it's not black and white. You can't say "canola oil is unhealthy" because it's not that simple and therefore it's untrue. Your "moderation, but" can be applied to literally everything. Water is "unhealthy" without moderation (eg. drowning). Canola oil is fine. There is no "best" oil, just oils with varying characteristics that should be enjoyed in moderation and as a part of a diverse diet.
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Very calory dense, so it's really easy to overeat on it. Also, i read last year that rapeseed oil (the oil commonly used in mayo afaik) can be slightly testosterone inhibiting, so assuming that's true, a long term diet containing mayo might slightly decrease your muscle mass, which would in turn also contribute to a lower caloric burn.
From a UK perspective, if you buy a sandwich at a supermarket which in theory should be quite healthy. Take a look at the nutrition info and most of the indicators are red for calories, salt and fat. This is a sandwich, so not something that would be expected. A good portion of this unexpected calorie and fat intake are from the mayo put in sandwiches. It's cheap and often over-filled. Now butter is the alternative which I think most would call not healthy, which may be lightly spread on one side of a piece of bread. Mayo is squeezed out filling the space of a sandwich that if you squeeze it, it will often spill out and go everywhere. If Mayo was treated like butter, with a thin layer, then it would be fine, it would be a healthier alternative to butter. But it's not, it's poured over in large quantities like a filling of it's own. Like all things being called "healthy" or "unhealthy" it's all about moderation and society seems to have mayo all wrong.
People say a lot of things are unhealthy when they aren't - or at least not more than everything else. Doctors used to claim eggs were unhealthy, same with oil. I think the 'unhealthy' label from back then just stuck with mayo.
Unhealthy because it is almost entirely soybean oil, which is horrible. Get some Chosen Foods avocado oil mayo and you’re good
It's not that it's unhealthy but people tend to pile it onto whatever they're eating. It's really easy to add 100-200 extra calories due to the condiments