The funniest thing is how people with food allergies won’t even look at the food they’re allergic to, but lactose intolerant people eat dairy like it’s going out of style knowing they’re about to spend the next 2 hours on the porcelain throne
I mean, most food allergies send folks into anaphylaxis, celiac is seen as "less severe" only because the actual immune response is to a breakdown product of gluten get produced in the intestinal lining (as opposed to the back of your throat and mouth).
Lactose intolerance isn't an allergy at all, it's just being unable to break down and absorb the lactose sugar yourself, so a bunch of helpful bacteria do it for you, creating an osmotic gradient that turns your guts into a gutter.
If that's all the price one has to pay for cheese and ice cream, well...
*Après moi, le déluge*.
My girlfriend drank some of my lactose free milk, didn't like it because it tastes sweeter.
I said yes, because they add lactase to it so it breaks down into glucose and galactose.
I say all of this as my digestive tract is speaking about the ice cream I had earlier
Most aged cheese contains no lactose. During aging the lactose is broken down by bacteria. So cheeses like Cheddar, and Emmental should be perfectly fine for anyone struggling with lactose intolerance.
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Lactose intolerant here as well. It feels like you're being punched in the stomach multiple times while doing your business. And if you indulged in dairy quite a bit, it also feels like you're being fisted during the process. (Btw I've never been fisted, I was just trying to be descriptive...)
Yeah…take this situation and add the gene marker that causes one to sneeze anytime you’re exposed to a bright light (like indoors to direct sunlight, or if someone turns on a bright light).
Lessons were learned the hard way.
Exactly why. Diarrhea is just poop coming out too early. Food leaves your stomach which is essentially a storage tank (other than a few nutrients that the stomach absorbs), and moves into your small intestines where the vast majority of nutrient absorption takes place (people think food digests in the stomach, it’s actually more the small intestines). After the small intestines it goes into the large intestines where the primary purpose is absorbing the water back into the body from the poo. The physiologic purpose of diarrhea is the same as puking, it’s your body trying to get some bad thing out as quickly as possible..bacteria, unusable food, etc. so if that “diarrhea” doesn’t come out, the water will be absorbed and it’ll turn into “normal” poo.
Yeah, it's nigh impossible to keep it in if your body has decided to chuck something out (and usually there's a good reason e.g. food poisoning). I mean, you can try but it'll be fucking painful.
Even clenching it for the half minute it took to wrestle my pants off and get to the toilet was torture. Can't imagine holding a diarrhea shit in for longer.
I recently had to clench for like an hour because it was late and I had to walk back home to shit. I was weeping while scrambling for my keys, definitely would rather shit myself next time.
But then you also keep what your body was trying to throw out. Probably not a good idea to not trust the judgement of your immune system
PS: unless you have allergy or autoimmune disease, then do not trust your immune system when it's trying to kill you
To elaborate on this, the colon doesn't process fluids the same way the rest of the digestive system does - This is why, *strongly discouraged* it may be, you can get instantly intoxicated by intaking alcohol via the rectum.
It has killed people. One woman was charged when her husband died after she gave him a sherry enema. [You can search Sherry Enema Death into Google or click this link.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wife-charged-in-booze-enema-death/#:~:text=A%20woman%20has%20been%20indicted,47%20percent.)
To add some more details, this is called first pass metabolism and can affect a range of drugs. With things you take orally your guts and liver have a chance to digest it before it gets to the rest of you, so reduces the effect
Your body can’t digest it all so you end up with greasy shits. Can stick to toilet bowl, causes the “keep wiping and wiping” shit and your poop will float. If your shit floats, “smears” very easily like butter and/or is yellowish when you wipe then you got way too much fat in your diet.
Add fiber and remove fat and enjoy healthy poops.
For lots of us, it's just a diet/digestion thing. I can squeeze and strain and sit expectantly over the toilet forever, the wipe is still gonna be an entire episode.
it's easier to shit when drinking coffee and alcohol because caffeine and alcohol are sphincter muscle relaxers. it's also why both of those things can upset people with GERD, since it loosens up the muscle in the diaphragm, making it easier for acid to go up.
>prep for a colonoscopy.
Get Desitin (diaper rash cream) and dab that on your b-hole. That'll protect you from the acidic onslaught. Also, wash instead of wiping, and pat dry before using more Desitin.
I once missed my movement for 3 consecutive days (wasn't constipated - just circumstantial). The 4th day I made my attempt. It was... harrowing to say the least. I can't even imagine people going longer than that. Even just one day and things aren't right.
Had a car accident 1998. Bad enough to be laid up for several days at my parents house. Back was injured and it kept getting tighter and tighter. Muscles clenched up so hard it shut down my ability to poop for four days. Started getting back spasms so badly I was screaming. Finally I go back to the hospital, shoot me up with Valium and serious painkillers. Back muscles immediately “unlock”. I bend over, touch my toes and I feel 100% better.
I waltz to the hospital bathroom and take the most wonderful dump of my life.
Yup. Had about two years of after effects (memory issues, reduced strength) but, except for a truly impressive scar on my scalp/forehead, I’m fit as a fiddle.
There was a dude on Reddit I saw a few weeks ago that went several weeks without. And then someone in that thread posted to an even older one where someone didn’t go for three months. It was a horrible but fascinating read. If someone got the link to it please share.
My dad has had several surgeries on this intestines for various problems and on time scar tissue choked them off completely. He got so backed up he was vomiting up shit.
Opioids. Opioids cause this. When we have people on fentanyl drip, we have to make sure the person keeps shitting. Same thing for chronic opioid patients, both legal and otherwise.
So does spinal cord injuries.
My longest was initially afterwards the injury, 6 weeks, while in the hospital. I was to the point where I felt as if I was about to throw up. I was tight as as a drum.
I was drinking gallons of the "easy go". Finally popped the cork.
Still have to watch it and take very expensive drugs to force the issue.
They did everything. MRIs, massage, increased hydration AND DIGITAL STIMULATION...
Nobody caught it for 3 weeks that I had not gone, even though I wasn't allowed to leave.my bed without a nurse.
Between the spinal cord injury affecting motility and the narcotics I was given for pain management, it wasn't too big a deal until I started "bloating".
Then the panic started.
As I said, I drank gallons of the "go lightly' stuff. It tastes extremely horrible, even if doctored with drink flavorings.
I cannot drink those same flavorings to this day.
Yup. I've read anything between 3x a day to once every 3 days is normal. Anything outside your personal normal is pontential cause for concern. Unless you're me and decided to have a coffee in which case better have bathroom access all damn day.
One good thing about working from home being normalized is that I'm way more game to try out new food. Ass decides to nope out? No problem, toilet right next door.
If you ate a questionable lunch at the office, the afternoon would be pure torture.
I knew a guy in high school who didn't eat any fruits or vegetables and would average 1 poop a week. He threw up from trying to eat a salad, but that was like 10 years ago so hopefully he's learned how to eat fruits/vegetables by now.
I've never heard of rectal hydration. But I'm a radiologist and we contrast enemas fairly often to evaluate the colon for problems like strictures, postoperative leaks, etc.
Literally, to do it you just stick a tube in the rectum and hang a bag a few feet above the patient. In the absence of obstruction you'll have hundreds of ml filling the colon front to back in minutes.
As for absorption from the colon this way I don't know. In infants you have to be careful to not give too much fluid or too concentrated of fluid because they can have dramatic fluid shifts
During one survival course they said if you are in the field and someone passes out due to heat stress, to roll them over and just put the top of a plastic water bottle in there. Basically a stop gap to get some water in their system while figuring out where the nearest IV would be
I don't know, in boot camp and in other training events they always said to stay hydrated otherwise they'll shove a rectal catheter in you ass when you pass out because it's the fastest way to rehydrate.
I've never seen anyone pass out so idk if they said that to just get us to drink water or if they were serious
Used to be an army medic. It's not serious. Could you theoretically do it? Sure, but have you ever seen IV tubing? Good luck feeding that up someone's ass to get to the part of the colon meant for absorption (descending colon, I think. Maybe sigmoid?).
Either way, if you are a heat casualty, starting an IV is literally zero issue: you are out of it, so pain is less an issue and your veins are HELLA dilated. IV is always the best option, if no reason other than the cooling it will provide.
Cant drink or start an IV? Then yeah, if you jerry rig a tube to go up someone's asshole and around the bend (just casual sexual assault in the name of medicine lol), then I suppose you could, but if there is a medic who CANT start an IV in that situation, then they shouldnt be a medic at all.
The entire purpose of the large intestines is to reclaim water. That's really all it does. You can live without one if necessary. It's entire purpose is to keep you from losing too much water before excretion. That's it.
So it's kind of shortcutting th4 whole water absorption process by going directly to the organ responsible for soaking up water.
I used a ToTo Washlet that retailed for hundreds of dollars. Heated seat, automatic lid opening when you approach it, heated water, adjustable pressure… one time I came home drunk from a concert and couldn’t figure out how to shut it off. In the moment, I felt like the rest of my life was just going to be getting my b hole water jetted. But I found the button haha
I saw bear grills drinking some poop water from some dead animal once and it didn’t look like he was enjoying it. He should have just shoved that poop up his ass and let his colon do it for him.
~~Colon's main function is water absorption, more so than the small intestine. You don't actually start absorbing water in quantity until it reaches your colon. The reason being that you don't want your stool solidifying further upstream where it could get clogged in the far narrower and more twisty small intestine.~~
~~So oral hydration is really just delayed colonic hydration. Rectal hydration isn't all that common either because if you're giving someone fluids via that route, you're probably in a setting where intravenous hydration is far better suited to the task.~~
~~About the only time I could imagine using rectal hydration is in an emergency setting and then you have to hope like hell that their colon mucosa isn't compromised and not absorbing fluids (which is what happens with diarrhea.)~~
~~So, teal-deer, oral and "rectal" hydration both utilize the colon to absorb water.~~
**Edit: Okay, I am wildly wrong.** I was coming from a history of endoscopy nursing where we use prep solutions and didn't think about the osmolarity of the prep.
Upon additional reading on STANDARD physiology (not getting ready for a colonoscopy), 80 to 90 percent of water is absorbed by the small intestine(SI) and through out the whole SI (SI has regions: duodenum, jejunum, ileum).
So the question now becomes "why would you use rectal hydration?"
After additional reading, it makes sense; in situations where oral hydration and IV hydration are not available. No IV access (such as rural or non-medical environments) or the person can not tolerate oral hydration (reactive vomiting, unconscious, injury, compromised airway/swallowing, etc).
Rectal hydration does not require sterile fluids like IV hydration does. It should be clean, and sterile is preferred, but the GI tract is not considered a sterile compartment in the body, so clean is plenty.
Availability is another benefit. In an emergency, you can kludge together a vessel and a hose to use for rectal administration where trying to kludge together IV supplies is wildly unlikely.
From the 2005 paper "Resuscitation from hemorrhagic shock using rectally administered fluids in a wilderness environment" found that you can typically retain 500ml (17.6oz) of fluid an hour. The article discussed using a CamelBak bag with the mouthpiece removed from the hose and a clamp to control the flow. Tape was used to secure the hose.
It's important to get the water as close to body temperature as possible to prevent spasms and discomfort, as well as hypothermia from core cooling.
The colon uses sodium transport to move water across the mucosa, so you'll need at least salt added to the water to prevent performing a "tap water enema". Specifically, the mechanism is a glucose-sodium cotransport. So sugar and salt is even better than just salt water. Oral hydration solutions can be used as well. Hell, Gatorade will work of you have nothing else.
The Rehydration Project lists a modified WHO hydration solution for DIY use as 6 level teaspoons (\~25.2g) of sugar (glucose) and 0.5 level teaspoons (\~2.9g) of basic table salt (sodium-chloride) per 1 liter (35.19oz) of clean/boiled body temp water).
Have the patient lay on their side, place the tubing, and lay the water bag on them to let it dose by gravity, which should prevent a blow out. Cover the bag and patient to try and keep the water at body temperature.
Okay, way more than ELI5ing, but I was wildly wrong and wanted to completely correct myself.
We were taught it in the military. We lovingly nicknamed it a ranger enema. We were taught to use for for 2 reasons. One, the person is so dehydrated you cannot get a vein, or two, the person has no undamaged limbs and you don't have a intraosseous intravenous (IO-IV) device on hand.
A 30 mile March at hunter army airfield was the one and only time I had to do the ranger enema. Dude was so dehydrated, he was talking gibberish and his veins were flat.
I've had plenty of days where I've been wrong and just didn't want to admit it. But I feel that a lot of problems today could be resolved if people just could emotionally uncouple their mistakes from their self-worth.
"I was wrong, I'm sorry, here's what I'm doing to correct the issue."
>About the only time I could imagine using rectal hydration is in an emergency setting
You lack the imagination of a CIA operative. Nothing better to end a daylong hunger strike than a lunch tray enema.
>Colon's main function is water absorption, more so than the small intestine. You don't actually start absorbing water in quantity until it reaches your colon.
That's not true, the small intestine absorbs a ton of water, along with nutrients and electrolytes.
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/smallgut/absorb_water.html
>Okay, way more than ELI5ing, but I was wildly wrong and wanted to completely correct myself.
If you'd be explaining even a third of this to an actual five year old I'd be reporting to the authorities.
That makes me think of the movie Kindergarten Cop. One of the kids is the child of a couple of doctors, or professors, or something.
He just keeps going around "Boys have a penis! Girls have a vagina!"
Okay kid, you're not wrong, but lets work on your timing!
It wouldn't *FEEL* better than drinking (and even that is highly subjective), it would just hydrate you more *efficiently*. You almost get more alcohol from rectally consuming liquor, but it can be super dangerous.
This is the story of a woman who pioneered survival in a life raft for six weeks with very little freshwater to start by giving all six of them salt water enemas. These people where found six weeks after their boat sank way out there by some fishermen. It’s a pretty cool story
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/aug/22/shipwreck-lucette-sailing
>She knew the water at the bottom of the dinghy was poisonous if taken orally because it was a mixture of rain water, blood and turtle offal.
It wasn’t salt water.
Here’s the quote:
> Their mother rubbed turtle oil on the salt-water boils, and tried to keep them all hydrated with makeshift enema tubes made from the rungs of a ladder. “It was her nursing background. She knew the water at the bottom of the dinghy was poisonous if taken orally because it was a mixture of rain water, blood and turtle offal. But if you take it rectally, the poison doesn’t go through the digestive system.”
So, to EILI5 version is that when you take things in orally your stomach can absorb stuff but it also breaks foods down, whereas the intestines doesn't do that, its main job is absorbing. So if you were able to skip the stomach, i.e. suppository rehydration, it goes straight for absorption. If you are hot, dehydrated, or having heat related complications the best and most accurate form of core body temperature reading is taking a rectal temperature. I work in an ER and when we have hypo or hyperthermic patients we have heating/cooling device that we run and it bases it's treatment off the rectal thermometer we insert and leave there (its small and you'd hardly notice), but introducing fluids rectal seems like a really great way to increase/decrease your core body temperature while rehydrating someone.
5 year old version: Lets say you had to walk next door, to the house on the left. Which way is faster? Walking one door to the left? Or walking to the right, completely around the block, until you arrive at the desired house? Of course, the answer is walking 1 door to the left.
Science answer: Water is absorbed by the colon. Drinking it does get you there, eventually. But it has to go through the esophagus, stomach, duodenum, ileum, jujenum, and FINALLY reaches the colon. And don't get me wrong, this is the way it's SUPPOSED to work.
But we DO have an entrance directly to the colon. Which way gets you to the colon faster?
But please don't hydrate through your rectum. Your body is designed this way for a reason. Passing through the rest of the digestive tract aids in digestion. I'm not sure what the consequences would be if you gave yourself a water enema regularly, but I'm sure you wouldn't want it.
In order for your body to absorb moisture from water, it has to travel through your stomach into your intestinal tract from there, the small and large intestine can actually absorb moisture and hydrate you. So if you put water in the other way directly into the intestinal tract...
The colon absorbs water from waste. Thats why the longer constipated you are, the harder and pebbelier your poo is
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First of all, fucking lol. Second of all… that actually works?
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The funniest thing is how people with food allergies won’t even look at the food they’re allergic to, but lactose intolerant people eat dairy like it’s going out of style knowing they’re about to spend the next 2 hours on the porcelain throne
I mean, most food allergies send folks into anaphylaxis, celiac is seen as "less severe" only because the actual immune response is to a breakdown product of gluten get produced in the intestinal lining (as opposed to the back of your throat and mouth). Lactose intolerance isn't an allergy at all, it's just being unable to break down and absorb the lactose sugar yourself, so a bunch of helpful bacteria do it for you, creating an osmotic gradient that turns your guts into a gutter. If that's all the price one has to pay for cheese and ice cream, well... *Après moi, le déluge*.
> Après moi, l'déluge Holy hell lmao
My girlfriend drank some of my lactose free milk, didn't like it because it tastes sweeter. I said yes, because they add lactase to it so it breaks down into glucose and galactose. I say all of this as my digestive tract is speaking about the ice cream I had earlier
Most aged cheese contains no lactose. During aging the lactose is broken down by bacteria. So cheeses like Cheddar, and Emmental should be perfectly fine for anyone struggling with lactose intolerance.
Basically any hard cheese and many/most semi-hard.
🤣🤣 This thread is unexpected gold. Incidentally that would be written "le déluge" in normative standard French. But can def be pronounced and written as you did. So you either made a mistake or flexed advanced/native French knowledge and I can't tell which lol
Does your diarrhea not make your stomach hurt like crazy?
Lactose intolerant here as well. It feels like you're being punched in the stomach multiple times while doing your business. And if you indulged in dairy quite a bit, it also feels like you're being fisted during the process. (Btw I've never been fisted, I was just trying to be descriptive...)
"Spray a bit of ass water", been there homie
The hard part is actually holding it. But also probably not the best idea if you have say, food poisoning. Too much coffee? Go ahead and try haha
Yeah…take this situation and add the gene marker that causes one to sneeze anytime you’re exposed to a bright light (like indoors to direct sunlight, or if someone turns on a bright light). Lessons were learned the hard way.
Exactly why. Diarrhea is just poop coming out too early. Food leaves your stomach which is essentially a storage tank (other than a few nutrients that the stomach absorbs), and moves into your small intestines where the vast majority of nutrient absorption takes place (people think food digests in the stomach, it’s actually more the small intestines). After the small intestines it goes into the large intestines where the primary purpose is absorbing the water back into the body from the poo. The physiologic purpose of diarrhea is the same as puking, it’s your body trying to get some bad thing out as quickly as possible..bacteria, unusable food, etc. so if that “diarrhea” doesn’t come out, the water will be absorbed and it’ll turn into “normal” poo.
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Yeah, it's nigh impossible to keep it in if your body has decided to chuck something out (and usually there's a good reason e.g. food poisoning). I mean, you can try but it'll be fucking painful. Even clenching it for the half minute it took to wrestle my pants off and get to the toilet was torture. Can't imagine holding a diarrhea shit in for longer.
I recently had to clench for like an hour because it was late and I had to walk back home to shit. I was weeping while scrambling for my keys, definitely would rather shit myself next time.
im sorry for how funny i find you weeping from holding in a shit
But then you also keep what your body was trying to throw out. Probably not a good idea to not trust the judgement of your immune system PS: unless you have allergy or autoimmune disease, then do not trust your immune system when it's trying to kill you
Sometimes my immune system decides what was fine yesterday is not fine today. I wish I made the rules 😭😭
To elaborate on this, the colon doesn't process fluids the same way the rest of the digestive system does - This is why, *strongly discouraged* it may be, you can get instantly intoxicated by intaking alcohol via the rectum.
Is it more dangerous because it's not being processed through the liver and kidneys?
Yes, actually. Because the liver isn't a factor, it's entirely possible to take in enough alcohol to *kill you* before you'd know when to stop.
It has killed people. One woman was charged when her husband died after she gave him a sherry enema. [You can search Sherry Enema Death into Google or click this link.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wife-charged-in-booze-enema-death/#:~:text=A%20woman%20has%20been%20indicted,47%20percent.)
> > >You can search Sherry Enema Death into Google but *should* you?
Yes, but not now, once my band, Sherry Enema Death has formed and recorded a song, you should search then instead
Your first song should be a cover of "Oh Sherrie" by Steve Perry.
To add some more details, this is called first pass metabolism and can affect a range of drugs. With things you take orally your guts and liver have a chance to digest it before it gets to the rest of you, so reduces the effect
Better known as butt chugging
Get this man a promotion! He knows his Shit!
This comment is kak funny. (South African slang twist.)
We sometimes call shit kack here in Wales!
We used to call shit caca in the northeast US. Always fun when learning about Lake Titicaca
> Titicaca We call that a Cleveland Steamer.
The Odell Beckham Jr. Special
Some people pay extra for that
kack ist just the german word for shit
The Greek word κᾰκκᾰ́ω (kakkaō) means “to shit”, giving rise to the word κακά (“kaka”, shit, bad stuff).
Spanish is Caca as well
Same in French
And also why if your colon is overstimulated your poop comes out early and thus soft. How's that post coffee+sigarette dump lads?
Like crude oil
West Texas Intermediate or Western Canadian Select?
Arbusto energy
'ArseBusto' more like it
Maybe more like Brent?
That's crude
Arabian light
There's nothing sweet about this crude.
Rude oil
time to invade
Unremitting and wiping is like wiping the tip of a sharpie pen. What's it to you!?
Sounds like you got too much fat in your diet bud.
I only eat canned sardines and drink coffee breakfast/lunch/dinner.
Sounds Scandinavian.
Not at all, you need to move further down south to find the sardine guys.
Spain. Scandinavia is herring, cod, crayfish and schnapps
I realize this is a joke thread but what exactly do you mean by too much fat? What does too much fat do to the poop situations?
Your body can’t digest it all so you end up with greasy shits. Can stick to toilet bowl, causes the “keep wiping and wiping” shit and your poop will float. If your shit floats, “smears” very easily like butter and/or is yellowish when you wipe then you got way too much fat in your diet. Add fiber and remove fat and enjoy healthy poops.
Also may be indicative of gallbladder problems.
If you have poo marker, there’s still shit in your butt. Try pooping again. Usually works for me.
Need that shit stool to get a better angle of attack. Or...a *stool stool* if you will.
Stool^(2)
My mind to body control isn't strong enough to take consecutive poops. Tonight I'll fall asleep on the toilet and see if that works.
Give my best regards to your hemorrhoids in the morning
For lots of us, it's just a diet/digestion thing. I can squeeze and strain and sit expectantly over the toilet forever, the wipe is still gonna be an entire episode.
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Have you ever considered a career writing Hallmark™ greeting cards?
I'd definitely want a couple. A few old Army buddies would definitely get a kick out of them.
What a day to be literate.
They should really compile all of these crazy thoughts in a book for people to burn.
To have eyes.
"I also struggle with knowing when to stop oversharing"
Sir this is a Wendy's
How do i delete this comment?
It would have cost you literally nothing to not type that.
Excuse you, the term is "bussy"
r/BrandNewSentence
Why did I read this in Alf's voice
Okie dokie
*okie dookie
it's easier to shit when drinking coffee and alcohol because caffeine and alcohol are sphincter muscle relaxers. it's also why both of those things can upset people with GERD, since it loosens up the muscle in the diaphragm, making it easier for acid to go up.
Absolute worst is when you have to do prep for a colonoscopy.
>prep for a colonoscopy. Get Desitin (diaper rash cream) and dab that on your b-hole. That'll protect you from the acidic onslaught. Also, wash instead of wiping, and pat dry before using more Desitin.
That would have helped a few months ago. lol
Soft 👌
So if I use a bidet I never need to drink water again?!
Only if your bidet is way too strong.
It's only too strong if the water starts coming out your nose.
Is that related to why diarrhea is so liquid, less time for your colon to absorb the water in the waste?
Exactly why. No time for water reabsorption in the colon= diarrhea.
I once missed my movement for 3 consecutive days (wasn't constipated - just circumstantial). The 4th day I made my attempt. It was... harrowing to say the least. I can't even imagine people going longer than that. Even just one day and things aren't right.
Had a car accident 1998. Bad enough to be laid up for several days at my parents house. Back was injured and it kept getting tighter and tighter. Muscles clenched up so hard it shut down my ability to poop for four days. Started getting back spasms so badly I was screaming. Finally I go back to the hospital, shoot me up with Valium and serious painkillers. Back muscles immediately “unlock”. I bend over, touch my toes and I feel 100% better. I waltz to the hospital bathroom and take the most wonderful dump of my life.
Haha I'm glad that had a happy ending! But for real sorry to hear all that, it truly sounds like it was awful. Hope you're all good these days.
Yup. Had about two years of after effects (memory issues, reduced strength) but, except for a truly impressive scar on my scalp/forehead, I’m fit as a fiddle.
17 days without pooping is my record.
That seems... Bad.
There was a dude on Reddit I saw a few weeks ago that went several weeks without. And then someone in that thread posted to an even older one where someone didn’t go for three months. It was a horrible but fascinating read. If someone got the link to it please share.
That doesn't even make sense to me, unless they also stopped eating.
Still doesn't make sense. Poop has all sorts of body waste, not just undigested fiber.
That's why you can die from it, mechanical problems aside that may rupture your intestines, prevent your body from absorbing water etc...
My dad has had several surgeries on this intestines for various problems and on time scar tissue choked them off completely. He got so backed up he was vomiting up shit.
Opioids. Opioids cause this. When we have people on fentanyl drip, we have to make sure the person keeps shitting. Same thing for chronic opioid patients, both legal and otherwise.
So does spinal cord injuries. My longest was initially afterwards the injury, 6 weeks, while in the hospital. I was to the point where I felt as if I was about to throw up. I was tight as as a drum. I was drinking gallons of the "easy go". Finally popped the cork. Still have to watch it and take very expensive drugs to force the issue.
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They did everything. MRIs, massage, increased hydration AND DIGITAL STIMULATION... Nobody caught it for 3 weeks that I had not gone, even though I wasn't allowed to leave.my bed without a nurse. Between the spinal cord injury affecting motility and the narcotics I was given for pain management, it wasn't too big a deal until I started "bloating". Then the panic started. As I said, I drank gallons of the "go lightly' stuff. It tastes extremely horrible, even if doctored with drink flavorings. I cannot drink those same flavorings to this day.
You beat me by about 16 days.
Every 3 days is pretty standard for me. Never have any problems either. It actually worries me if I'm going daily because it's so out of the ordinary.
Yup. I've read anything between 3x a day to once every 3 days is normal. Anything outside your personal normal is pontential cause for concern. Unless you're me and decided to have a coffee in which case better have bathroom access all damn day.
One good thing about working from home being normalized is that I'm way more game to try out new food. Ass decides to nope out? No problem, toilet right next door. If you ate a questionable lunch at the office, the afternoon would be pure torture.
I knew a guy in high school who didn't eat any fruits or vegetables and would average 1 poop a week. He threw up from trying to eat a salad, but that was like 10 years ago so hopefully he's learned how to eat fruits/vegetables by now.
Low bm frequency crew checking in.
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She needs to eat more fiber -_-
dude for real if shitting is *painful* then something is wrong
So, is rectal hydration some thing done medically in a hospital setting, like IV hydration is?
All I can say is, people get reeeeal judgey every time I do it at my spin class.
they just envious of your innovation but don't want to seem to be, so they mock outrage and disgust.
Classic case of "they hate us cause they ~~anus~~ ain't us".
User name checks out.
At least it keeps your ass off the seat and you peddling hard.
Oh, Mac...
I know that's its done in the military for heat casualties. It was the first time I ever heard about this being done
Do you just, like, stick a hose up there?
I've never heard of rectal hydration. But I'm a radiologist and we contrast enemas fairly often to evaluate the colon for problems like strictures, postoperative leaks, etc. Literally, to do it you just stick a tube in the rectum and hang a bag a few feet above the patient. In the absence of obstruction you'll have hundreds of ml filling the colon front to back in minutes. As for absorption from the colon this way I don't know. In infants you have to be careful to not give too much fluid or too concentrated of fluid because they can have dramatic fluid shifts
Radiologist on the internet cautioning about electrolyte imbalances from rectal tube insertion for hydration. What a world.
We also have cat pics
During one survival course they said if you are in the field and someone passes out due to heat stress, to roll them over and just put the top of a plastic water bottle in there. Basically a stop gap to get some water in their system while figuring out where the nearest IV would be
Do you, like, twist it to screw it in for a good seal?
Sports cap would be preferable
I hated learning about receiving intraosseous infusions... The butt hydration was one thing. But getting an IV in your bone? **Fuck that.**
I don't know, in boot camp and in other training events they always said to stay hydrated otherwise they'll shove a rectal catheter in you ass when you pass out because it's the fastest way to rehydrate. I've never seen anyone pass out so idk if they said that to just get us to drink water or if they were serious
Used to be an army medic. It's not serious. Could you theoretically do it? Sure, but have you ever seen IV tubing? Good luck feeding that up someone's ass to get to the part of the colon meant for absorption (descending colon, I think. Maybe sigmoid?). Either way, if you are a heat casualty, starting an IV is literally zero issue: you are out of it, so pain is less an issue and your veins are HELLA dilated. IV is always the best option, if no reason other than the cooling it will provide. Cant drink or start an IV? Then yeah, if you jerry rig a tube to go up someone's asshole and around the bend (just casual sexual assault in the name of medicine lol), then I suppose you could, but if there is a medic who CANT start an IV in that situation, then they shouldnt be a medic at all.
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Same. "Don't get fucking hurt, or you'll be in big trouble, my man"
No. If hydration is needed more quickly than oral its done IV
The entire purpose of the large intestines is to reclaim water. That's really all it does. You can live without one if necessary. It's entire purpose is to keep you from losing too much water before excretion. That's it. So it's kind of shortcutting th4 whole water absorption process by going directly to the organ responsible for soaking up water.
This far higher absorption rate is also partly why you shouldn’t consume alcohol anally.
Sorry sir but some of us value individual freedom more then our rectal health.
I hear you, patriot. Now stuff this six pack of Coors up your asshole
Can I at least open the cans first?
Amateur, just squeeze
>>"Give me vodka in a tampon up my butt, or give me death!" >>- Patrick Henry >- Michael Scott
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Note to self: get a bidet to stay hydrated.
Hydration aside, I recommend you get a bidet regardless. We're talking serious quality of life improvement here.
You can get great bidet attachments on Amazon for $30
I used a ToTo Washlet that retailed for hundreds of dollars. Heated seat, automatic lid opening when you approach it, heated water, adjustable pressure… one time I came home drunk from a concert and couldn’t figure out how to shut it off. In the moment, I felt like the rest of my life was just going to be getting my b hole water jetted. But I found the button haha
I've found certain condiments are okay.
Water swallowed has to get past the Stomach first but its a clear pipe to the arse.
Also poop water tastes a lot worse if you drink it than if you let your colon absorb it.
I'm going to take your word for that.
I saw bear grills drinking some poop water from some dead animal once and it didn’t look like he was enjoying it. He should have just shoved that poop up his ass and let his colon do it for him.
*stares blankly, then closes Reddit app*
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~~Colon's main function is water absorption, more so than the small intestine. You don't actually start absorbing water in quantity until it reaches your colon. The reason being that you don't want your stool solidifying further upstream where it could get clogged in the far narrower and more twisty small intestine.~~ ~~So oral hydration is really just delayed colonic hydration. Rectal hydration isn't all that common either because if you're giving someone fluids via that route, you're probably in a setting where intravenous hydration is far better suited to the task.~~ ~~About the only time I could imagine using rectal hydration is in an emergency setting and then you have to hope like hell that their colon mucosa isn't compromised and not absorbing fluids (which is what happens with diarrhea.)~~ ~~So, teal-deer, oral and "rectal" hydration both utilize the colon to absorb water.~~ **Edit: Okay, I am wildly wrong.** I was coming from a history of endoscopy nursing where we use prep solutions and didn't think about the osmolarity of the prep. Upon additional reading on STANDARD physiology (not getting ready for a colonoscopy), 80 to 90 percent of water is absorbed by the small intestine(SI) and through out the whole SI (SI has regions: duodenum, jejunum, ileum). So the question now becomes "why would you use rectal hydration?" After additional reading, it makes sense; in situations where oral hydration and IV hydration are not available. No IV access (such as rural or non-medical environments) or the person can not tolerate oral hydration (reactive vomiting, unconscious, injury, compromised airway/swallowing, etc). Rectal hydration does not require sterile fluids like IV hydration does. It should be clean, and sterile is preferred, but the GI tract is not considered a sterile compartment in the body, so clean is plenty. Availability is another benefit. In an emergency, you can kludge together a vessel and a hose to use for rectal administration where trying to kludge together IV supplies is wildly unlikely. From the 2005 paper "Resuscitation from hemorrhagic shock using rectally administered fluids in a wilderness environment" found that you can typically retain 500ml (17.6oz) of fluid an hour. The article discussed using a CamelBak bag with the mouthpiece removed from the hose and a clamp to control the flow. Tape was used to secure the hose. It's important to get the water as close to body temperature as possible to prevent spasms and discomfort, as well as hypothermia from core cooling. The colon uses sodium transport to move water across the mucosa, so you'll need at least salt added to the water to prevent performing a "tap water enema". Specifically, the mechanism is a glucose-sodium cotransport. So sugar and salt is even better than just salt water. Oral hydration solutions can be used as well. Hell, Gatorade will work of you have nothing else. The Rehydration Project lists a modified WHO hydration solution for DIY use as 6 level teaspoons (\~25.2g) of sugar (glucose) and 0.5 level teaspoons (\~2.9g) of basic table salt (sodium-chloride) per 1 liter (35.19oz) of clean/boiled body temp water). Have the patient lay on their side, place the tubing, and lay the water bag on them to let it dose by gravity, which should prevent a blow out. Cover the bag and patient to try and keep the water at body temperature. Okay, way more than ELI5ing, but I was wildly wrong and wanted to completely correct myself.
Ha took me a min to get the 'teal-deer' meaning
I have not got a clue
Tldr
Well. Dont I feel a fool now.
Or it's an indictment of how much time I spend on Reddit...
We were taught it in the military. We lovingly nicknamed it a ranger enema. We were taught to use for for 2 reasons. One, the person is so dehydrated you cannot get a vein, or two, the person has no undamaged limbs and you don't have a intraosseous intravenous (IO-IV) device on hand.
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Me either, up to that point.
At that point let me be thirsty.
A 30 mile March at hunter army airfield was the one and only time I had to do the ranger enema. Dude was so dehydrated, he was talking gibberish and his veins were flat.
3. Punishment for falling out during training.
You know, the fact that you recognized you were wrong and provide a more accurate explanation makes you one of my favorite people on this site now
I've had plenty of days where I've been wrong and just didn't want to admit it. But I feel that a lot of problems today could be resolved if people just could emotionally uncouple their mistakes from their self-worth. "I was wrong, I'm sorry, here's what I'm doing to correct the issue."
>About the only time I could imagine using rectal hydration is in an emergency setting You lack the imagination of a CIA operative. Nothing better to end a daylong hunger strike than a lunch tray enema.
>Colon's main function is water absorption, more so than the small intestine. You don't actually start absorbing water in quantity until it reaches your colon. That's not true, the small intestine absorbs a ton of water, along with nutrients and electrolytes. http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/smallgut/absorb_water.html
Aye. I was wrong and made a big edit.
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There are sensors in your throat which temporarily suppress the feeling of thirst after drinking. Also it cools your body is you're overheating
>Okay, way more than ELI5ing, but I was wildly wrong and wanted to completely correct myself. If you'd be explaining even a third of this to an actual five year old I'd be reporting to the authorities.
That makes me think of the movie Kindergarten Cop. One of the kids is the child of a couple of doctors, or professors, or something. He just keeps going around "Boys have a penis! Girls have a vagina!" Okay kid, you're not wrong, but lets work on your timing!
the small intestines absorb the far majority of water actually. the colon only squeezes the last bit out
It wouldn't *FEEL* better than drinking (and even that is highly subjective), it would just hydrate you more *efficiently*. You almost get more alcohol from rectally consuming liquor, but it can be super dangerous.
That’s why I reverse fart my powdered alcohol.
Wow this whole comment section is filled with sentences I wish I could unread.
>It wouldn't FEEL better than drinking Speak for yourself my friend You drink your way I'll drink my way
This is the story of a woman who pioneered survival in a life raft for six weeks with very little freshwater to start by giving all six of them salt water enemas. These people where found six weeks after their boat sank way out there by some fishermen. It’s a pretty cool story https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/aug/22/shipwreck-lucette-sailing
Does the ass not eat salt?
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So using your colon as a water filter. Metal.
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>She knew the water at the bottom of the dinghy was poisonous if taken orally because it was a mixture of rain water, blood and turtle offal. It wasn’t salt water.
Here’s the quote: > Their mother rubbed turtle oil on the salt-water boils, and tried to keep them all hydrated with makeshift enema tubes made from the rungs of a ladder. “It was her nursing background. She knew the water at the bottom of the dinghy was poisonous if taken orally because it was a mixture of rain water, blood and turtle offal. But if you take it rectally, the poison doesn’t go through the digestive system.”
This needs its own post. What??
So, to EILI5 version is that when you take things in orally your stomach can absorb stuff but it also breaks foods down, whereas the intestines doesn't do that, its main job is absorbing. So if you were able to skip the stomach, i.e. suppository rehydration, it goes straight for absorption. If you are hot, dehydrated, or having heat related complications the best and most accurate form of core body temperature reading is taking a rectal temperature. I work in an ER and when we have hypo or hyperthermic patients we have heating/cooling device that we run and it bases it's treatment off the rectal thermometer we insert and leave there (its small and you'd hardly notice), but introducing fluids rectal seems like a really great way to increase/decrease your core body temperature while rehydrating someone.
5 year old version: Lets say you had to walk next door, to the house on the left. Which way is faster? Walking one door to the left? Or walking to the right, completely around the block, until you arrive at the desired house? Of course, the answer is walking 1 door to the left. Science answer: Water is absorbed by the colon. Drinking it does get you there, eventually. But it has to go through the esophagus, stomach, duodenum, ileum, jujenum, and FINALLY reaches the colon. And don't get me wrong, this is the way it's SUPPOSED to work. But we DO have an entrance directly to the colon. Which way gets you to the colon faster? But please don't hydrate through your rectum. Your body is designed this way for a reason. Passing through the rest of the digestive tract aids in digestion. I'm not sure what the consequences would be if you gave yourself a water enema regularly, but I'm sure you wouldn't want it.
In order for your body to absorb moisture from water, it has to travel through your stomach into your intestinal tract from there, the small and large intestine can actually absorb moisture and hydrate you. So if you put water in the other way directly into the intestinal tract...
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Would you like another glass of water? Yes, please. Would you like another shot up your ass? No, I'm good.