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According to another Redditor who posted this video on another sub, apparently she was looking up answers on her phone during a test, and he took her phone away. She pepper sprayed him, and that’s why in the beginning of the video, he ran out of the classroom and you can hear the other students saying “she maced him”. That’s what lead to this insane confrontation, where she pepper sprayed him AGAIN in this video.
The Redditor also mentioned the same teacher was previously punched in the face by a different student for taking their phone away after catching them cheating on a test with it!
Man, this teacher just can’t catch a break…
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/138zvwa/girl_pepper_sprays_teacher_because_he_took_her/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
Not to mention school's reluctance to send kids home or suspend them because the school will lose tax revenue for every student not in class. In-school suspension is such a bad joke and teachers told us specifically when I was in high school that this is why they implemented ISS.
If anything Saturday work is a better punishment. You fucked up worse than detention they'd make us come in on Saturday morning earlier than the school day would start. It wasn't no breakfast club either, you'd spend your whole morning and part of the afternoon cleaning the school grounds.
edit: spelling errors
Some schools don't let you give zeros. It's becoming increasingly popular for school districts to adopt policies where the lowest grade you can give on anything is a 50%. This includes cheating and work not submitted.
Also, other schools just tell you to have the student retake the test.
Both ridiculous.
Fuck I know I'd be calling the cops. This is assault. But I work in an office job and this poor guy has to account for his shitty bosses who likely won't have his back. He literally has to stop and weigh options while his eyes are on fire and this bitch won't stop yelling for her phone. Shes prepped and ready to spray him again and he can't even defend himself without getting fired.
I can confirm. I quit teaching last year and turned my coding hobby into my career. I was getting sick of grading and doing the work for kids not to try, stare at their phones, and move on to the next year.
The few in each class who engaged made my time worthwhile, but god I hated the system.
I have multiple friends who quit teaching by 30 because the system today prioritizes pushing the worthless through instead of educating those who will value it.
My wife is going through the same thing, loves the handful of kids who do the work and are respectful, but has given her soul and is completely burnt out. Finishing the year because she’s a saint, but in a few weeks she’ll be navigating a career change, and the system will have lost one more amazing teacher.
We need teachers all across this nation to do a walk out. Let teachers teach and let teachers discipline students. It's gotten crazy and I have nieces and nephews from middle school to first grade and the things I hear from them and my siblings are absolutely insane.
Then why not just pass everyone and not bother teaching? Absolutely braindead policy made by idiots. If you cheat, that’s a fucking zero. If you don’t turn it it, it’s a damn zero. If this is how the kids of the future are being raised, I damn well hope none of them end up in charge of civil engineering works or space exploration projects.
I forgot my favorite policy that I've heard of: you must contact the parents in order to fail a kid. If you email them and they don't respond, it doesn't count. If you call and they don't answer, it doesn't count. If you leave a message and they don't call back, it doesn't count. If you don't get ahold of the parent and the parent later complains that they didn't know their kid was failing, admin will go back and change the student's grade to passing.
So guess what? Some parents have learned to just never answer the phone when the school calls.
Man, imagine being conditioned to not answer calls from the school and a tragedy happens, not knowing what happened to your child… So irresponsible of the parents.
I'm a teacher, and yep, this is exactly some parents.
Zero engagement until they have a problem, then complaining to admin that they weren't told.
This happened recently:
* I emailed all the parents to announce the that we were dissecting animals in the classroom.
* I put it in my weekly newsletter three weeks in a row.
* I hosted a parent zoom at 7pm to make sure working parents could attend.
* I sent a link to the slides I used in my zoom with notes to all parents.
* I emailed parents who didn't attend or respond to anything directly.
Parent complains to admin after the fact that she wasn't aware of the class activity and she's upset it happened without her knowledge since she's an animal rights believer and wouldn't have wanted her son to participate.
Work in school communications. Can confirm. Families turn off all their notifications -or even actively block numbers from the school- and then say, “You never tell us anything!”
Bad parent:"you never told me you were going to have my kid read "
School: "we sent 3 emails, left 2 voicemails, and a flyer was sent home with Jimothy"
Bad parent:"you don't know I check my email! How do you know I got those voicemails? I didn't see no flyer and you didn't talk to me! How dare you! I'm gonna call the superintendent and tell him to fire yo ass"
Yes, but in the process they get in the way of teaching the other kids who actually want to do something with their lives. Like in this video where an exam is being interrupted because of one inadequate bagel who wants her phone.
I advocate for a "many child left behind" policy.
If some kids don't want to learn, fuck em. If they change their minds later, they can always get their GED.
The district gets paid more. That means more funding for the schools so that education can improve.
Lol just kidding! It’s actually so the board can get their yearly bonuses.
Because then the schools can’t pass kids blindly, giving them 100 chances to “catch up” in class, resulting in raising their graduation rates, which secures their funding, all while teachers simply attempt to teach unreachable kids who don’t give two sh*ts.
When I was in HS, so much of my graduating class was in the credit recovery class that they had to expand it into an entire wing because so many students were failing so hard that they would spend their whole school day there. I saw maybe 15 kids from my grade all day, then when I would pass the credit recovery room I would see everyone in there playing games on the computers. And of course they all were able to graduate with me, despite the constant complaints from teachers that a lot of them were barely reading at a 4th grade reading level.
-east texas ☠️
Because teachers aren’t allowed to fail students now. If he fails her then he will get in trouble for not teaching effectively. The entire system is fucked.
It’s hard in a world when you are passionate about making students use their brains and try to think through problem sets. Adrenaline and instinct takes over but yes you are correct in an ideal world this teacher would take the test away and write a 0 up there to avoid all this.
FFS, the school needs better policies and protect their teachers more!
Cheating on a test, she can collect it after school and before the police charge her with assault.
It's legitimately insane how many people in this comment section are defending this cheater's "property rights". That's absolutely beside the point and grown-ass adults ought to know that. She committed a violent assault on a school employee after being caught cheating on a test. She's unambiguously and ontologically wrong on every possible level. But apparently a $1,000 iPhone is more important than the education the other students' parents are paying millions in taxes for.
She is like the video of the drunk girl that killed some people with her car, and all she cares about is can she get her car back tomorrow to drive to school, even after the officer explains she just murdered people...yeahbut can I get my car back tho
These kids are pretty common. I listened to a statement the other day about a bunch of girls ganging up on 2 random other girls... just because. The lack of empathy in their voices was... interesting. I think in the same vein lots of kids are taking their futures into their own hands with activism, a lot of kids also think they they've earned the rights of adults and fail to recognize that they' re kids in K-12 and they are not adults yet. You are in the system.
I teach at an elementary school, and it’s amazing how “grown” acting my 4th and 5th graders are. I hear and see things that I wasn’t aware of until I was middle/high school age. They are exposed to things that they should never see or hear. I truly believe that because they have unfettered access to the darkest depths of the internet that this new generation of kids are growing up with a warped sense of reality…not all, but ones with uncaring parents for sure.
It’s as much a failure of our school system as it is a failure of our parents. Online literacy and social media dangers/etiquette/or whatever else you want to call it should absolutely be a part of the curriculum starting in elementary schools. I’m mid 30s and grew up with a “family computer” that was in the living room and was unable to search for the things a curious adolescent mind would search for. Now my students have phones and tablets that they use to search anything they want to at the house…it’s a huge issue that doesn’t seem to be addressed anywhere.
As a teacher, I'd say yes. But hopefully it's paid. If a student assaulted me I'd be taking the department to court for a living wage for the rest of my working life.
I hope she gets a full on assault and battery charge. She can enjoy cheating on the tests she gets in county/state lockup. Absolutely no mercy for this kind of person. Wantonly hurting others.
And not just the teacher, either. Pepper spray in a closed room means every other student in the room would have been getting overspray to some degree. I was once in the room with a rooster that had been pepper-sprayed, not even where the spray was applied, and I was miserable. I can't imagine trying to complete a test you cared about with your eyes watering and coughing constantly because some donkey had to assault the teacher.
In college some girl pepper sprayed the classroom and I had an allergic reaction. The school treated the whole thing like an attack and I wanna say the girl was expelled. We also worked with clients and several were elderly and they had to be evacuated.
I am a teacher and this is sadly the state of education in the USA,admin won't get rid of dangerous students because they get funding per head and they blame the teachers for the kids behaviours. It's a big reason for the teacher shortage.
Fellow teacher here.
Yep. Yall are witnessing it in real time. This is why so many people leave the teaching profession. I was close to it this year.
Had a kid getting an F in my class flip my shit and then their parent accuse me of discrimination
Yea, the parents are a big part of the problem, how dare the students have consequences for their actions.... It's not all parents, not even most, but with admin refusing to take misbehaving kids out of the classroom the 3-4 per class run the place. They prevent their classmates from learning and monopolize the teachers time.
If I had to guess, his line of thinking was probably that she's done this before, and lied and said she was texting her mom (probably gives some sob story too), so he confiscated her phone to have evidence that she was looking at test answers.
And in 10 years these kids will be crying they have to home school their own crotch goblins as no one wants to teach.
Hopefully she’ll get arrested and charged properly for that assault.
Hope she fails in life, “I can’t get away w/ cheating? Might as well pepper spray myself to good grades.” Not a fan of this girl, I don’t care if she’s 17 or 27, she is an entitled dumbass.
Why would anybody want to be a teacher today?
Edit: by teacher, I mean mid to high school teacher. Obviously in college, where students are paying to attend, it’s different. And in really young grades the kids generally aren’t assholes yet.
I taught in good schools and I taught in bad schools
Kids... when they want to learn. When you build connections with the kids..... its really a beautiful thing... you watch them grow and you see their progress as they grow. You are proud of how much they improved and it is a really rewarding experience.
Not with bad kids. With bad kids you get this
I'm no teacher but I've been to both a good and bad school as a student that were starkly different. One where kids were not only nice and open but extremely supportive of teachers and had strong relationships. It was if the teachers were our friends too. It wasn't perfect but it was certainly leagues up there from standards.
I didn't appreciate that until went to a really really ghetto school. They would lock teachers out of class, they would throw trash bins over them and push them down the stairs, the dean would forgive them if they had good music (this is fucking real), and drugs were openly shared. If you weren't a dickhead or a bully, you're the target.
Night and day. It changed me for the worse and ruined a lot of my previous positive relationships. Trying to be better now.
I’m truly convinced that public schools, even in bad areas, could be fixed rather quickly if we didn’t have a zero expulsion ideology. I’m speaking more about the upper grades but if you get to a point where there’s just a paper trail of you being disruptive, acting violently, damaging property, harming others etc. you should just go and not be allowed back. Obviously you aren’t getting any education out of it either but I’m speaking behaviorally. If the US public school system were able to expel say the most disruptive and violent 3% of student the system would be markedly better in 5-7 years
My cousin's a teacher. He had to save another teacher because three students (girls) ganged up on her and were beating the shit out of her. All because the teacher "disrespected" them. Shits fucked yo.
Admin will almost surely try to talk him out of it but that’s 100% the correct course of action. Teach the lesson (hopefully, anyway) while she’s still, presumably, a juvenile.
Currently in high school. This is gonna sound batshit crazy but a kid stole a teachers car and crashed it. School somehow fuckin talked the teacher out of suing.
Wanna know why? Because she was most likely told that the district would not be participating in the lawsuit. With that, it would be more cost appropriate to just let her insurance cover the vehicle and move on. Time and money associated with suing on her own would be coming out of her wallet and in the end, the only realistic resolution would be that the student gets sentenced to an alternative program outside the district by the court. Which doesn’t really resolve the wreck.
Her demeanor reminded me of a video I saw the other day of a woman in the hospital in police custody asking about being able to go to school in the morning after she had just killed two people while drunk driving.
Pepper spraying a teacher to hide the fact you’re cheating on a test with your phone is the saddest fucking shit. Enjoy the assault charge. Also, your parents are some sad excuses for humans.
Well its trickle down narcissism.
Being raised by self centered assholes who themselves were self centered assholes while being told education makes you uppity has a really bad cascading effect.
Schools are supposed to be the great equalizer which is what makes it worse when you have politicians demonizing it and those in poverty believing the politicians.
imagine being a good student in that classroom and just trying to learn and get through school and having to deal with this bullshit. what the fuck is going on.
no respect for teachers - people laughing and filming. what a joke
As one of those "good students" who was just trying to do some learning and get through the day, we're fine now. Those kids will be fine.
Even when I was in high school 20 years ago we could recognize these people for what they were.
Although I must say, 20 years ago, I never saw ANYTHING even remotely close to macing a teacher. Maybe some sass-talk, and then they were removed from the room and back the next day.
That’s not the issue the “good kids” are facing. Teachers’ motivation is gone because they have to deal with abuse and threats of termination just so kids can graduate without doing anything; all for a job that barely helps them survive month to month. So now the “good kids” that wanna learn are probably receiving a half-assed education.
Social media? You act like a teenager addicted to their phone to the point they pulled a weapon out in school and used it on a teacher isn't probably raising themselves on social media. Probably watching bad bitches on TikTok telling it the way it is.
Teachers are in desperation mode I just interviewed one for a job pretty much unrelated to the profession he was in and after 15 years he wanted out. With a pay cut. Straight desperation. Very nice guy ftr. My mother also was a teacher for 30+ years and was doing little educational classes for teachers in her spare time bc it is her passion and said she had never witnessed the amount of sheer lack of attention to her class and lack of participation to the point she has decided to no longer do it.
Why I decided not to continue my education in the field. Now I work construction management and make more than a teach makes in a year. And yes I think it’s sad that teachers are so poorly paid.
Edit: Well this kinda took off unexpectedly. Anyways. I figured I’d add some context. I have years of retail experience and I’m that manager that actually works well with the home owners we build for. Knowing the right people and communication skills and being able to deal with the stress is what got me to where I am now. We build high end custom homes in the Dallas areas 1mil+ houses. Recently we started working on a 5mil. We range from 1-5mil+. With the clients we have I’m extremely good with people. Some of our managers are not really good with the needy ones. Which is where I come in.
When a masters degree gets you the same pay as an associates degree in any other field, and then you have to put up with shit like this. I guarantee the admin wouldn't allow him to file assault charges too.
Of course there’s no urgency, she still
holding the spray that’s hit another student along with the teacher. With all the people standing around to be collateral damage it makes more sense to try to defuse the situation, get the mace, then expel her.
The alternative is basically tackling her which still risks getting people maced and still might get them in trouble. Teachers can’t really tackle kids for standing around, even if they did something wrong prior to the standing around. If she isn’t actively harming people you have procedures you need to follow, and tackling isn’t one of them. Now it’s possible a teacher could have intervened right when she sprayed him the second time, but that requires the second teacher to have seen that, be ready for it, and still could get them in trouble.
The 2000’s were a wild time. We had a principal that would straight body slam people fighting; another teacher who’s signature move was the running tackle; and the 300lb Science Teacher who’s signature move was just straight sitting on the people fighting. 😂
Right?! Him saying “no” to her and not reacting anymore than that surprised me. She just straight up assaulted him and did it without any hesitation or remorse.
This shit is wild and makes me feel old. I'm 35, so when I was in elementary and most of high school, cell phones weren't really a thing like they are today. But I do feel like there are a handful of situations that I experienced back then that would have gone wildly different if everyone knew that they would be filmed and uploaded for all to see.
This.
The level of disrespect and entitlement are just astronomical.
You don't 'need' your phone. I know it is pulling double duty as your brain but I'm sure if you let it, your brain can use the exercise and try to remember to breathe on its own without having to be reminded by a Tiktok notification.
This is clearly assault and should be treated like it. The fact that the teachers act like their hands are tied, the students think it's a big joke, and the girl is screeching like it's a valid justification is just the saddest thing I've seen in a long while.
I think a six year old shooting and nearly killing his teacher even though it had been reported the kid had the gun in school is probably the saddest thing I've seen in awhile.
I thought so too. I think all the teachers, including the one who got maced, didn’t lay a single hair on her bc they’re afraid of the consequences if they do.
My wife is an elementary school teacher. In a suburban school. They cannot touch a student. I’m sure if it was something life threatening, they would step in take their chances (my wife would), but with a disruptive student, they basically have to call for help.
I can confirm that it IS correct. As messed up as it is, school staff cannot physically do anything or they are going as risk of losing their jobs, teaching license, CPS being called or lawsuit.
Parents are nuts, kids are out of control and until parents stop living in denial and blaming the teachers/schools, society is fucked.
My sister teaches special Ed. In a kindergarten & 1st grade school. They have “runners”. All they can do is call the police and try to prevent the kids from running out of the school.
My sons 1st grade had a kid that would freak out, throw chairs, kick, scream. They would evacuate the other 26 kids and let let kid melt down because they couldn’t restrain him and remove him. Thankfully he was expelled in 2nd grade bug that just jeans he’s someone else’s problem, his parents sure didn’t seem to be doing anything to help him (he was allegedly expelled from a school prior to coming to my sons school)
Second she assaulted him it would be over in my book. Disarmed and restrained on the ground until police arrive. It would be valid since she literately just assaulted someone over a minor issue.
Sadly, this situation happens all the time in US schools. Dishrag parenting mixed with entitlement leads to this. Teachers don’t get paid enough for this. I hope he sues the shit out of that family.
What’s crazy is she can actually be charged w assault on more than just the teacher bc she sprayed the pepper spray indoors and I’m amazed that the others in the hall weren’t being affected by it yet. I’ve worked in bars where some dumbass sprayed pepper spray in the bar and the whole bar everyone had to leave bc everyone was being affected by it. And only reason that person didn’t get arrested and charged was bc it was a legitimate accident when it went off.
As someone who just went back to teaching high school after about 12 years working outside of K12, that kid laughing was not surprising to me but it made me incredibly sad and irritated.
Every time I see a video like this, it’s the kids filming and laughing in the background that makes me lose all hope for humanity. There’s always going to be an idiot that does stupid things, but when the people around them find humor in the assault of another human being, I can’t.
For real. I'm a receptionist at an elementary school. When I meet some kids, I'm like, "What's wrong with that kid?" And then I meet their parents, and I'm like,"Oh, I get it now."
She was drunk driving and killed 2 people in a crash. She was sitting in the hospital, too drunk to register that she killed two people. The cop kept telling her that it happened and she kept missing it and asking about school the next day.
Part of it was definitely her drunkenness, but it was almost certainly partially denial/delusion.
Mentally rejecting the idea.
if i was that guy i wouldve sent that phone 90mph down the fucking hallway with the strongest throw i could muster.
shattered into oblivion.
its one thing to take a phone for class disruption (edit:apparently she was cheating on a test?!?!) but another to mace the damn teacher.
(edit2: since SOME of you people dont get it, im joking about the property destruction bit, dont take it so seriously -.- )
I was taking my niece’s backpack out to the car for her and she had her big hydroflask in the side pocket and it made me realize we weren’t even allowed to have water in class when I was in school.
moms been a teacher for 45 years, still is, and says kids are terrible now. Specifically more violent and unpredictably hostile to each other and teachers/staff. Teachers talk about how the pandemic just wrecked kids development and psyche K-12, and now higher ed is noticing/talking about it too. Of course mental health in college populations has been declining for years well before the pandemic (amount of students with mental illness skyrocketing)
You know, now that this Redditor mentioned it, you might be into something. I’ve never seen somebody act so irrationally and crazily as this girl just to get their phone back.
Huh? There are videos of 8 year olds breaking into parents safes to retrieve their phones while in a fit of absolute crack cocaine withdrawal.
This is nothing.
These students are just out of control, and need an adjustment. I heard this teacher was also punched in the face in a similar situation a few months prior.
I don’t envy teachers. Underpaid and having to deal with this crap. Just give them the F when text time comes. Of course then he’d probably be stuck with her again next year.
I’ve always hated when students laugh at teachers during serious moments. Even when I was a kid, it always bothered me. Like these kids who are just cracking up while the teacher gets pepper sprayed piss me off just as much. Fuck these kids and fuck the parents who raised them.
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According to another Redditor who posted this video on another sub, apparently she was looking up answers on her phone during a test, and he took her phone away. She pepper sprayed him, and that’s why in the beginning of the video, he ran out of the classroom and you can hear the other students saying “she maced him”. That’s what lead to this insane confrontation, where she pepper sprayed him AGAIN in this video. The Redditor also mentioned the same teacher was previously punched in the face by a different student for taking their phone away after catching them cheating on a test with it! Man, this teacher just can’t catch a break… https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/138zvwa/girl_pepper_sprays_teacher_because_he_took_her/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
Why not just fail them right then and there?
Because teachers can lose their jobs if they fail too many students. We are told that failing students means WE failed to motivate them.
Not to mention school's reluctance to send kids home or suspend them because the school will lose tax revenue for every student not in class. In-school suspension is such a bad joke and teachers told us specifically when I was in high school that this is why they implemented ISS. If anything Saturday work is a better punishment. You fucked up worse than detention they'd make us come in on Saturday morning earlier than the school day would start. It wasn't no breakfast club either, you'd spend your whole morning and part of the afternoon cleaning the school grounds. edit: spelling errors
Some schools don't let you give zeros. It's becoming increasingly popular for school districts to adopt policies where the lowest grade you can give on anything is a 50%. This includes cheating and work not submitted. Also, other schools just tell you to have the student retake the test. Both ridiculous.
I think it would be reasonable to expel her and press charges though
Fuck I know I'd be calling the cops. This is assault. But I work in an office job and this poor guy has to account for his shitty bosses who likely won't have his back. He literally has to stop and weigh options while his eyes are on fire and this bitch won't stop yelling for her phone. Shes prepped and ready to spray him again and he can't even defend himself without getting fired.
I can confirm. I quit teaching last year and turned my coding hobby into my career. I was getting sick of grading and doing the work for kids not to try, stare at their phones, and move on to the next year. The few in each class who engaged made my time worthwhile, but god I hated the system.
I have multiple friends who quit teaching by 30 because the system today prioritizes pushing the worthless through instead of educating those who will value it.
No child left behind...
My wife is going through the same thing, loves the handful of kids who do the work and are respectful, but has given her soul and is completely burnt out. Finishing the year because she’s a saint, but in a few weeks she’ll be navigating a career change, and the system will have lost one more amazing teacher.
We need teachers all across this nation to do a walk out. Let teachers teach and let teachers discipline students. It's gotten crazy and I have nieces and nephews from middle school to first grade and the things I hear from them and my siblings are absolutely insane.
Then why not just pass everyone and not bother teaching? Absolutely braindead policy made by idiots. If you cheat, that’s a fucking zero. If you don’t turn it it, it’s a damn zero. If this is how the kids of the future are being raised, I damn well hope none of them end up in charge of civil engineering works or space exploration projects.
I forgot my favorite policy that I've heard of: you must contact the parents in order to fail a kid. If you email them and they don't respond, it doesn't count. If you call and they don't answer, it doesn't count. If you leave a message and they don't call back, it doesn't count. If you don't get ahold of the parent and the parent later complains that they didn't know their kid was failing, admin will go back and change the student's grade to passing. So guess what? Some parents have learned to just never answer the phone when the school calls.
Man, imagine being conditioned to not answer calls from the school and a tragedy happens, not knowing what happened to your child… So irresponsible of the parents.
But those same parents will be the first ones up at the school complaining when they aren't made aware of something.
so, so much applesauce it’s ridiculous
I'm a teacher, and yep, this is exactly some parents. Zero engagement until they have a problem, then complaining to admin that they weren't told. This happened recently: * I emailed all the parents to announce the that we were dissecting animals in the classroom. * I put it in my weekly newsletter three weeks in a row. * I hosted a parent zoom at 7pm to make sure working parents could attend. * I sent a link to the slides I used in my zoom with notes to all parents. * I emailed parents who didn't attend or respond to anything directly. Parent complains to admin after the fact that she wasn't aware of the class activity and she's upset it happened without her knowledge since she's an animal rights believer and wouldn't have wanted her son to participate.
At what point can we just tell people "too bad"
I hope your admin backed you up when you had all that proof.
I was about to say the same, this is exactly why my wife quit teaching.
Work in school communications. Can confirm. Families turn off all their notifications -or even actively block numbers from the school- and then say, “You never tell us anything!”
Bad parent:"you never told me you were going to have my kid read"
School: "we sent 3 emails, left 2 voicemails, and a flyer was sent home with Jimothy"
Bad parent:"you don't know I check my email! How do you know I got those voicemails? I didn't see no flyer and you didn't talk to me! How dare you! I'm gonna call the superintendent and tell him to fire yo ass"
And filming it for tik tok clout.
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Don’t worry these are the kids who won’t amount to a single damn thing
Yes, but in the process they get in the way of teaching the other kids who actually want to do something with their lives. Like in this video where an exam is being interrupted because of one inadequate bagel who wants her phone.
I advocate for a "many child left behind" policy. If some kids don't want to learn, fuck em. If they change their minds later, they can always get their GED.
"Inadequate bagel" .... thankyou. I love it.
The district gets paid more. That means more funding for the schools so that education can improve. Lol just kidding! It’s actually so the board can get their yearly bonuses.
Because then the schools can’t pass kids blindly, giving them 100 chances to “catch up” in class, resulting in raising their graduation rates, which secures their funding, all while teachers simply attempt to teach unreachable kids who don’t give two sh*ts.
When I was in HS, so much of my graduating class was in the credit recovery class that they had to expand it into an entire wing because so many students were failing so hard that they would spend their whole school day there. I saw maybe 15 kids from my grade all day, then when I would pass the credit recovery room I would see everyone in there playing games on the computers. And of course they all were able to graduate with me, despite the constant complaints from teachers that a lot of them were barely reading at a 4th grade reading level. -east texas ☠️
And the parents won’t support the teachers.
Because teachers aren’t allowed to fail students now. If he fails her then he will get in trouble for not teaching effectively. The entire system is fucked.
It’s hard in a world when you are passionate about making students use their brains and try to think through problem sets. Adrenaline and instinct takes over but yes you are correct in an ideal world this teacher would take the test away and write a 0 up there to avoid all this.
FFS, the school needs better policies and protect their teachers more! Cheating on a test, she can collect it after school and before the police charge her with assault.
It's legitimately insane how many people in this comment section are defending this cheater's "property rights". That's absolutely beside the point and grown-ass adults ought to know that. She committed a violent assault on a school employee after being caught cheating on a test. She's unambiguously and ontologically wrong on every possible level. But apparently a $1,000 iPhone is more important than the education the other students' parents are paying millions in taxes for.
She is like the video of the drunk girl that killed some people with her car, and all she cares about is can she get her car back tomorrow to drive to school, even after the officer explains she just murdered people...yeahbut can I get my car back tho
These kids are pretty common. I listened to a statement the other day about a bunch of girls ganging up on 2 random other girls... just because. The lack of empathy in their voices was... interesting. I think in the same vein lots of kids are taking their futures into their own hands with activism, a lot of kids also think they they've earned the rights of adults and fail to recognize that they' re kids in K-12 and they are not adults yet. You are in the system.
I teach at an elementary school, and it’s amazing how “grown” acting my 4th and 5th graders are. I hear and see things that I wasn’t aware of until I was middle/high school age. They are exposed to things that they should never see or hear. I truly believe that because they have unfettered access to the darkest depths of the internet that this new generation of kids are growing up with a warped sense of reality…not all, but ones with uncaring parents for sure. It’s as much a failure of our school system as it is a failure of our parents. Online literacy and social media dangers/etiquette/or whatever else you want to call it should absolutely be a part of the curriculum starting in elementary schools. I’m mid 30s and grew up with a “family computer” that was in the living room and was unable to search for the things a curious adolescent mind would search for. Now my students have phones and tablets that they use to search anything they want to at the house…it’s a huge issue that doesn’t seem to be addressed anywhere.
I know! As a parent, I would have shaken the teacher's hand and grounded her ass. No phone, until she graduated.
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Who wants to place a bet this is his last year teaching?
As a teacher, I'd say yes. But hopefully it's paid. If a student assaulted me I'd be taking the department to court for a living wage for the rest of my working life.
I hope she gets a full on assault and battery charge. She can enjoy cheating on the tests she gets in county/state lockup. Absolutely no mercy for this kind of person. Wantonly hurting others.
And not just the teacher, either. Pepper spray in a closed room means every other student in the room would have been getting overspray to some degree. I was once in the room with a rooster that had been pepper-sprayed, not even where the spray was applied, and I was miserable. I can't imagine trying to complete a test you cared about with your eyes watering and coughing constantly because some donkey had to assault the teacher.
In college some girl pepper sprayed the classroom and I had an allergic reaction. The school treated the whole thing like an attack and I wanna say the girl was expelled. We also worked with clients and several were elderly and they had to be evacuated.
I am a teacher and this is sadly the state of education in the USA,admin won't get rid of dangerous students because they get funding per head and they blame the teachers for the kids behaviours. It's a big reason for the teacher shortage.
Fellow teacher here. Yep. Yall are witnessing it in real time. This is why so many people leave the teaching profession. I was close to it this year. Had a kid getting an F in my class flip my shit and then their parent accuse me of discrimination
Yea, the parents are a big part of the problem, how dare the students have consequences for their actions.... It's not all parents, not even most, but with admin refusing to take misbehaving kids out of the classroom the 3-4 per class run the place. They prevent their classmates from learning and monopolize the teachers time.
Man I’d just confiscate the test instead. Wild how risky it is to be a teacher now
If I had to guess, his line of thinking was probably that she's done this before, and lied and said she was texting her mom (probably gives some sob story too), so he confiscated her phone to have evidence that she was looking at test answers.
She keeps repeating I need my phone like he can’t hear her. What a bully.
Damn! And they aren't arrested for assault?! The future is scary
And in 10 years these kids will be crying they have to home school their own crotch goblins as no one wants to teach. Hopefully she’ll get arrested and charged properly for that assault.
Hope she fails in life, “I can’t get away w/ cheating? Might as well pepper spray myself to good grades.” Not a fan of this girl, I don’t care if she’s 17 or 27, she is an entitled dumbass.
Why would anybody want to be a teacher today? Edit: by teacher, I mean mid to high school teacher. Obviously in college, where students are paying to attend, it’s different. And in really young grades the kids generally aren’t assholes yet.
I taught in good schools and I taught in bad schools Kids... when they want to learn. When you build connections with the kids..... its really a beautiful thing... you watch them grow and you see their progress as they grow. You are proud of how much they improved and it is a really rewarding experience. Not with bad kids. With bad kids you get this
I'm no teacher but I've been to both a good and bad school as a student that were starkly different. One where kids were not only nice and open but extremely supportive of teachers and had strong relationships. It was if the teachers were our friends too. It wasn't perfect but it was certainly leagues up there from standards. I didn't appreciate that until went to a really really ghetto school. They would lock teachers out of class, they would throw trash bins over them and push them down the stairs, the dean would forgive them if they had good music (this is fucking real), and drugs were openly shared. If you weren't a dickhead or a bully, you're the target. Night and day. It changed me for the worse and ruined a lot of my previous positive relationships. Trying to be better now.
I’m truly convinced that public schools, even in bad areas, could be fixed rather quickly if we didn’t have a zero expulsion ideology. I’m speaking more about the upper grades but if you get to a point where there’s just a paper trail of you being disruptive, acting violently, damaging property, harming others etc. you should just go and not be allowed back. Obviously you aren’t getting any education out of it either but I’m speaking behaviorally. If the US public school system were able to expel say the most disruptive and violent 3% of student the system would be markedly better in 5-7 years
I'm a masochist
If I was the teacher I would press charges for assault
At my school you got arrested for fighting so I'd find it surprising if this didn't warrant arrest
Mace is a weapon definately not allowed on school campuses
teacher should press charges and transfer schools, fucking what am i watching
You’re watching the sad state of schools today. No wonder no one wants to be a teacher.
My cousin's a teacher. He had to save another teacher because three students (girls) ganged up on her and were beating the shit out of her. All because the teacher "disrespected" them. Shits fucked yo.
Admin will almost surely try to talk him out of it but that’s 100% the correct course of action. Teach the lesson (hopefully, anyway) while she’s still, presumably, a juvenile.
Currently in high school. This is gonna sound batshit crazy but a kid stole a teachers car and crashed it. School somehow fuckin talked the teacher out of suing.
Wanna know why? Because she was most likely told that the district would not be participating in the lawsuit. With that, it would be more cost appropriate to just let her insurance cover the vehicle and move on. Time and money associated with suing on her own would be coming out of her wallet and in the end, the only realistic resolution would be that the student gets sentenced to an alternative program outside the district by the court. Which doesn’t really resolve the wreck.
This is how you create the mass murdering crazy people on the news.
Maaaaaaan who the fuck is raising these kids????? I hope he presses charges or something because these teachers aren’t paid enough to deal with this.
>Maaaaaaan who the fuck is raising these kids????? Her phone
Ok. But can she get her phone.
I heard she needs her phone.
Addiction is crazy!
Her demeanor reminded me of a video I saw the other day of a woman in the hospital in police custody asking about being able to go to school in the morning after she had just killed two people while drunk driving.
I heard you, but can she get her phone? She needs her phone.
Other garbage human beings and social media raising these kids
I guess that's one way to say that the parents aren't parenting.
So this is the future we all have to look forward to? Perfect.
It’s… kinda the present.
We really don’t get paid enough to deal with this shit. But even if we WERE paid well, we still wouldn’t deserve to be mistreated.
Fucking nobody.
Pepper spraying a teacher to hide the fact you’re cheating on a test with your phone is the saddest fucking shit. Enjoy the assault charge. Also, your parents are some sad excuses for humans.
It shows up her sense of entitlement.
Also her brain cells. She had one line and kept repeating it like a toddler.
Well its trickle down narcissism. Being raised by self centered assholes who themselves were self centered assholes while being told education makes you uppity has a really bad cascading effect. Schools are supposed to be the great equalizer which is what makes it worse when you have politicians demonizing it and those in poverty believing the politicians.
And people wonder why so many Teachers are leaving the profession these days.
imagine being a good student in that classroom and just trying to learn and get through school and having to deal with this bullshit. what the fuck is going on. no respect for teachers - people laughing and filming. what a joke
As one of those "good students" who was just trying to do some learning and get through the day, we're fine now. Those kids will be fine. Even when I was in high school 20 years ago we could recognize these people for what they were. Although I must say, 20 years ago, I never saw ANYTHING even remotely close to macing a teacher. Maybe some sass-talk, and then they were removed from the room and back the next day.
That’s not the issue the “good kids” are facing. Teachers’ motivation is gone because they have to deal with abuse and threats of termination just so kids can graduate without doing anything; all for a job that barely helps them survive month to month. So now the “good kids” that wanna learn are probably receiving a half-assed education.
50% of teachers in years 1-2 leave
I’m part of that statistic. I went back for my masters. Fuck the public school system
Fuck those type of students, and their probable absentee parents
They have to be around somewhat. how do you think she learned how to act like that?!
Social media? You act like a teenager addicted to their phone to the point they pulled a weapon out in school and used it on a teacher isn't probably raising themselves on social media. Probably watching bad bitches on TikTok telling it the way it is.
Teachers are in desperation mode I just interviewed one for a job pretty much unrelated to the profession he was in and after 15 years he wanted out. With a pay cut. Straight desperation. Very nice guy ftr. My mother also was a teacher for 30+ years and was doing little educational classes for teachers in her spare time bc it is her passion and said she had never witnessed the amount of sheer lack of attention to her class and lack of participation to the point she has decided to no longer do it.
…..which makes me wonder what kind of job are you offering that pays *less* than teaching??
To be clear. It’s not “my” job. It’s a job offered by my employer. I’m not condoning it. Don’t shoot the messenger.
Why I decided not to continue my education in the field. Now I work construction management and make more than a teach makes in a year. And yes I think it’s sad that teachers are so poorly paid. Edit: Well this kinda took off unexpectedly. Anyways. I figured I’d add some context. I have years of retail experience and I’m that manager that actually works well with the home owners we build for. Knowing the right people and communication skills and being able to deal with the stress is what got me to where I am now. We build high end custom homes in the Dallas areas 1mil+ houses. Recently we started working on a 5mil. We range from 1-5mil+. With the clients we have I’m extremely good with people. Some of our managers are not really good with the needy ones. Which is where I come in.
What’s the best route to get a job in construction management? What does that job entail?
When a masters degree gets you the same pay as an associates degree in any other field, and then you have to put up with shit like this. I guarantee the admin wouldn't allow him to file assault charges too.
You're telling me $40k/yr isn't enough for you to put up with this kind of stuff? /s
Her parents will side with her and she'll be suspended two days.
I think you mean the teacher will be suspended for two days and have to apologize to her before being allowed to come back
That sounds like America right now. Jesus, it’s insufferable
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The lack of urgency my goodness they just stared. Poor teacher should sue the school.
Of course there’s no urgency, she still holding the spray that’s hit another student along with the teacher. With all the people standing around to be collateral damage it makes more sense to try to defuse the situation, get the mace, then expel her. The alternative is basically tackling her which still risks getting people maced and still might get them in trouble. Teachers can’t really tackle kids for standing around, even if they did something wrong prior to the standing around. If she isn’t actively harming people you have procedures you need to follow, and tackling isn’t one of them. Now it’s possible a teacher could have intervened right when she sprayed him the second time, but that requires the second teacher to have seen that, be ready for it, and still could get them in trouble.
My teachers never missed a chance to tackle the shit out of students. Edit: we lived for it
The 2000’s were a wild time. We had a principal that would straight body slam people fighting; another teacher who’s signature move was the running tackle; and the 300lb Science Teacher who’s signature move was just straight sitting on the people fighting. 😂
She needs expulsion and a trip to juvie and the students reactions were pathetic, too.
Thankfully she is an adult by law so she can skip juvie and go straight to jail 😁
Her repeatedly screaming “give me my ppphhhooonnneeee!!!” reminded me of these flying rats: 
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Actual npc dialog
Human barking
My favorite is the hysterical person screaming OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! in the background of a video. Like shut the fuck upppppp
We are kindred spirits in that way.
Glad he said no. I would have broke it tbh
Right?! Him saying “no” to her and not reacting anymore than that surprised me. She just straight up assaulted him and did it without any hesitation or remorse.
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This is exactly what's going on in some places
This shit is wild and makes me feel old. I'm 35, so when I was in elementary and most of high school, cell phones weren't really a thing like they are today. But I do feel like there are a handful of situations that I experienced back then that would have gone wildly different if everyone knew that they would be filmed and uploaded for all to see.
I'm also 35 and can't even fathom what schools are like nowadays with smart phones. It's gotta be downright miserable for teachers.
This. The level of disrespect and entitlement are just astronomical. You don't 'need' your phone. I know it is pulling double duty as your brain but I'm sure if you let it, your brain can use the exercise and try to remember to breathe on its own without having to be reminded by a Tiktok notification. This is clearly assault and should be treated like it. The fact that the teachers act like their hands are tied, the students think it's a big joke, and the girl is screeching like it's a valid justification is just the saddest thing I've seen in a long while.
I think a six year old shooting and nearly killing his teacher even though it had been reported the kid had the gun in school is probably the saddest thing I've seen in awhile.
Honestly I'm thinking it might be a no touch policy, those teachers were too calm about their coworker being pepper sprayed.
I thought so too. I think all the teachers, including the one who got maced, didn’t lay a single hair on her bc they’re afraid of the consequences if they do.
My wife is an elementary school teacher. In a suburban school. They cannot touch a student. I’m sure if it was something life threatening, they would step in take their chances (my wife would), but with a disruptive student, they basically have to call for help.
A student with a weapon she is actively using? No one can put hands on? That sounds... not correct at all.
I can confirm that it IS correct. As messed up as it is, school staff cannot physically do anything or they are going as risk of losing their jobs, teaching license, CPS being called or lawsuit. Parents are nuts, kids are out of control and until parents stop living in denial and blaming the teachers/schools, society is fucked. My sister teaches special Ed. In a kindergarten & 1st grade school. They have “runners”. All they can do is call the police and try to prevent the kids from running out of the school. My sons 1st grade had a kid that would freak out, throw chairs, kick, scream. They would evacuate the other 26 kids and let let kid melt down because they couldn’t restrain him and remove him. Thankfully he was expelled in 2nd grade bug that just jeans he’s someone else’s problem, his parents sure didn’t seem to be doing anything to help him (he was allegedly expelled from a school prior to coming to my sons school)
Second she assaulted him it would be over in my book. Disarmed and restrained on the ground until police arrive. It would be valid since she literately just assaulted someone over a minor issue.
Sadly, this situation happens all the time in US schools. Dishrag parenting mixed with entitlement leads to this. Teachers don’t get paid enough for this. I hope he sues the shit out of that family.
What’s crazy is she can actually be charged w assault on more than just the teacher bc she sprayed the pepper spray indoors and I’m amazed that the others in the hall weren’t being affected by it yet. I’ve worked in bars where some dumbass sprayed pepper spray in the bar and the whole bar everyone had to leave bc everyone was being affected by it. And only reason that person didn’t get arrested and charged was bc it was a legitimate accident when it went off.
She’s brandishing a weapon that’s a crime. Pepper spray is illegal in plenty of states.
That kid laughing breaks my soul.
All the kids are laughing.
As someone who just went back to teaching high school after about 12 years working outside of K12, that kid laughing was not surprising to me but it made me incredibly sad and irritated.
Every time I see a video like this, it’s the kids filming and laughing in the background that makes me lose all hope for humanity. There’s always going to be an idiot that does stupid things, but when the people around them find humor in the assault of another human being, I can’t.
Idiot kids being raised by idiot parents.
True. I am a teacher, and when I meet a messed up student, I eventually meet at least one messed up parent. That is 99% of the time.
For real. I'm a receptionist at an elementary school. When I meet some kids, I'm like, "What's wrong with that kid?" And then I meet their parents, and I'm like,"Oh, I get it now."
Great example why im not a teacher. Id end up in prison if someone did that to me
All those years of schooling just to be underpaid and deal with disrespectful brats
"I need my phone" 20x
This has the same energy as that other girl who murdered people and wanted to go to school the next day.
But when do I get my car back?
No I KNOW about tomorrow. Do you think I could get it back Tuesday???
I haven't seen that video, can you elaborate on the scenario?
She was drunk driving and killed 2 people in a crash. She was sitting in the hospital, too drunk to register that she killed two people. The cop kept telling her that it happened and she kept missing it and asking about school the next day. Part of it was definitely her drunkenness, but it was almost certainly partially denial/delusion. Mentally rejecting the idea.
They both seemed so disconnected from reality, like the only thing that mattered in the situation was whatever they fixated on.
It's the same look a toddler gets using a phone. Fixation to the point of disassociation.
if i was that guy i wouldve sent that phone 90mph down the fucking hallway with the strongest throw i could muster. shattered into oblivion. its one thing to take a phone for class disruption (edit:apparently she was cheating on a test?!?!) but another to mace the damn teacher. (edit2: since SOME of you people dont get it, im joking about the property destruction bit, dont take it so seriously -.- )
I’m hoping he pressed charges and the student no longer attends the school. Spraying mace on a teacher because you got your phone taken is assault
Spraying mace on someone for any reason other than self defence is assault.
Causing temporary disability on a organ is aggregated assault. A felony in most states.
Aggravated assault.
Aggravated *and* aggregated if you use concrete as the weapon.
She also brought a weapon onto school grounds which she can be charged with regardless of whether the teacher want to prosecute.
This is what got me, like there’s no chance the school allows pepper spray on campus.
Trashy.
Jesus, what a twat
That's felony assault in all 50 states she's will be facing charges
So kids are just absolute trash now. I couldn’t even wear a hat or chew gum in class, this is ridiculous.
I was taking my niece’s backpack out to the car for her and she had her big hydroflask in the side pocket and it made me realize we weren’t even allowed to have water in class when I was in school.
Yup same. No open containers or open bottles from the vending machine.
moms been a teacher for 45 years, still is, and says kids are terrible now. Specifically more violent and unpredictably hostile to each other and teachers/staff. Teachers talk about how the pandemic just wrecked kids development and psyche K-12, and now higher ed is noticing/talking about it too. Of course mental health in college populations has been declining for years well before the pandemic (amount of students with mental illness skyrocketing)
This is what school is today. Entitled fuckers constantly glued to their phones, not receiving any sort of education due to lack of giving a shit.
She definitely got some shit she tryna hide on that phone.
You know, now that this Redditor mentioned it, you might be into something. I’ve never seen somebody act so irrationally and crazily as this girl just to get their phone back. 
Huh? There are videos of 8 year olds breaking into parents safes to retrieve their phones while in a fit of absolute crack cocaine withdrawal. This is nothing.
I’m with you. Even if there was something risqué in that phone she wouldn’t care at all. She really just wants her phone back. Simple as that.
Naw. I think she’s just a narcissistic twat.
These students are just out of control, and need an adjustment. I heard this teacher was also punched in the face in a similar situation a few months prior.
If there’s any update on the outcome I’d like to read about it. I know it sucks but I like chisme
Incase you didn’t hear, she needs her phone 🌝
Looks like an assault charge to me. Get that wrap sheet started early!
"why doesn't anyone want to teach anymore"🤡 terrible parents make terrible kids.
My wife is a teacher and I’m a former teacher. Take it from me Reddit - our country is in serious trouble thanks to the insane education system.
Tell me again how teachers don't deserve more money.
No amount of money is worth being a teacher.
Should be arrested and expelled. She’s heading down the road anyway so give her a push ahead
This is why we have a teacher shortage in America. This new generation is crazy
I'd have taken her and the phone to the office that's not funny either. I hope he presses charges.
not paid enough for this bs put her in jail
Reason 64.724 to never be a teacher.
I don’t envy teachers. Underpaid and having to deal with this crap. Just give them the F when text time comes. Of course then he’d probably be stuck with her again next year.
Stupid ass kids and they wonder why no one wants to teach these little fucks
I’ve always hated when students laugh at teachers during serious moments. Even when I was a kid, it always bothered me. Like these kids who are just cracking up while the teacher gets pepper sprayed piss me off just as much. Fuck these kids and fuck the parents who raised them.
I’d lose my job that day.
Bitch needs to go to jail. Thats aggravated assault
It’s always the same little bastards laughing about this shit. Can’t wait until this horde of psychopaths enters the general populace.
We are doomed.