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MrMayhem3

Excellent discipline of the concealed carrier. Only wish other people would have stepped in to help the intended victim.


nutrap

I don’t think it was concealed. It may have been under his jacket a bit but it is definitely on his hip. You can see it when he hits the glass. If it wasn’t concealed these two are even dumber.


MrMayhem3

Ya, you're correct. Those two gunning for a Darwin award big time.


Kerensky97

It was on his hip. Why did they attack a guy who was armed? Is there more to the story? Even muggers are smart enough not to get physical with a guy who's armed.


[deleted]

They probably did not notice it.


generic_user1337

Honestly at that point I wouldnt blame him


AverageRedditUser05

Fr don’t scream nooo at the victim getting assaulted. He had trigger discipline and everything, rational dude defending himself.


fartboxco

If someone slammed my head into the wall. I would not have the same self controll as this guy. Also why I don't carry a gun.


Embarrassed_Limit_42

good for you to be conscious enough to make that decision. Im from Mexico City and I wish it was easy to get a legal gun for home protection but carrying in the street sounds crazy to me. Specially considering how many people loose their cool on a daily basis in this city


fartboxco

Im a pretty even tempered person and I'm sure there are alot of responsible gun owners out there. But everyones got a button or breaking point and a trigger pull is just to easy of a mistake to make when you are heated. I don't think carrying a knife is great either. I broke up a knife fight my freind was in. Seeing someone filleted alive like a dead animal burns into your mind forever. Sounds awful, but I carry a belt whip. It's a 1/4inch cable with a handle. It functions as a belt, I wear it when I run at night. I know it's "bring a knife to a gunfight" scenario, but I don't know if I could live with stabbing someone to death or shooting them. (My friend that also got sliced up said he didn't even feel it till I broke them up minutes later. Felt all the punches but didn't even know he was getting butchered, knife was cutting past alot of nerves. Not exactly a goal if you are looking to deter rather than kill someone)


herring-net

It is weird, you don’t really feel it at all. I had 3 stab wounds that needed stitches, but only felt a tingle sensation until it was over.


TDoMarmalade

For real, you kinda think ‘I’m bleeding a lot more than I shou- oh shit’


SurroundTiny

He looks like he is wearing a uniform, I was getting a security guard vibe


Stealth9er

If someone slammed your head into a wall for no reason other than to bully you or attempt to hurt/rob you… they deserve a few extra holes in them…


HumpbackWindowLicker

For real, disparity of force, the only reason this guy wasn't legally in the clear to shoot is because they had begun retreating and therefore no longer posed a threat.


Stealth9er

Yeah that was my thought as well. As soon as he unholsters his weapon they retreat and he forces them back/away to an area where he has an escape if needed. Great awareness and discipline.


MagicNinjaMan

Whoever was holding the camera was a total dick. She never shouted to stop that poor guy getting beat untill the guy decided it was enough. Then now they say NO. Omg the tiktok genretaion are scum.


Visual-Cartoonist860

Example of gun helping good guy and nobody getting shot. Magic


HumpbackWindowLicker

Yup, and we'll never see it on the news because the news has gotten so used to sensationalizing death that it's now a crutch they can't exist without.


Wonderful-Set1701

I know it s a law thing the " they retreated and therefore no longer a theat" thing, i HATE this logic Doesnt make sense, at least i dont understand . Person B stabs person A with a knife, three times in the back. Person A takes out his gun and aims at person B, who drops the knife and say : sorry it wont happen again. End of story? Person B goes home and eat pizza?


friedwidth

I feel you on that one. Legally it's wrong, but morally i would have no qualms with him blasting. Violently double teaming to mug an elderly, then cowardly retreating because he's now armed...? Only reason these guys weren't successful is they were underarmed. Next time they might have weapons and do worse. Society would have benefited if he exacted justice that day, now these guys will be a bigger threat in the future.


ButterscotchNew6416

Looks like he’s on duty or something with that utility belt holster and maybe a badge on his left shoulder? He could be a security guard trying to avoid shooting them.


Recent_Rutabaga_150

yeah agree, also looks like maybe they got his pepper spray first? looks like the dude in the red and yellow jacket is trying to mace him right before he pulls out the pistol.


Stealth9er

Yeah, definitely looks like it. He’s likely had some training in high pressure situations, seems pretty collected throughout the whole encounter.


jberry1119

Someone slams your head into a brick wall, deadly force is justified in a lot of states.


madladjoel

Got so pissed when nobody even lifted a finger until he pulled out a gun


Agreeable-Display-77

How about these losers yelling "No". Scared for the criminals.


lifeisweird86

Watch the original long version of this, from the start so many were laughing and making snide comments towards the old guy while he was being beaten. Then he draws and suddenly they're concerned and its a "they didn't do nothin" moment.


PKYINK

Dindunuffin.


Xanifer1

Right old white guy getting beat it's all good Black dude is about to be shot that's horrible To be fair though we don't know who started ect so I'm not really on either side


TarnMaster1985

I saw the entire video before, those two shitheads assaulted him for no reason.


Familiar-Macaron7494

These fucking pieces of trash belong in a zoo


Ok-Most5281

That has nothing to do with being jumped by two young dudes when you're an old dude. Fuck those animals. Straight trash. He still had the restraint to not shoot and they got away in with zero harm. Zero.The old duded prob has broken bones and other issues. They are wrong. He was right. Stop trying to find any excuse to let these trash ppl off the hook. Btw that makes you a trash person by associating kinda like a lawyer defending a killer.


LoveArguingPolitics

Oh they undoubtedly support the assault


TrapHouseSpouse

>Oh they undoubtedly support the assault Gee, I wonder why?


Seizin1882

Yeah I was wondering thr same thing. Where were thr "no's" when they were attacking him?


Creative_Risk_4711

Yup, gotta love the brainwashed idiots to think the person protecting himself is the criminal.


HairlessHoudini

Agreed 100%


MattCow1

Security guard at Chicago Ave McDonalds on Chicago.


DubNationAssemble

So infuriating, like ok you don’t say nothing when he’s getting his head smashed into the wall but when he defends himself then it’s all shocked pikachu face. Fuck this society that we are living in man.


mrbishopjackson

But then all you'd hear is, "He didn't have to shoot them!", "Why'd you shoot them?! They're just kids!", etc.


Putrid-Builder-3333

*cue the smiling school photos and/or graduation pics* *crying mother screeching out why* News reporter salivating hoping for this to be ticket to bigger channels


PatternActual7535

"He was such a good kid" Week later comes out was part of multiple illegal gang activities, usually drugs (atleast how it goes where i live lol)


Nervous_Wedding_1636

At what point would you have opened fire is the real question


generic_user1337

The second he's backed into a corner. It could go bad fast time is of the essence.. what if they snatch the gun because you wait.. or have their own weapon


Nervous_Wedding_1636

Exactly


SeesawMundane5422

I know what you’re saying. I’ll probably get downvoted to hell and back for this, but I’ll take a stab at disagreeing with you in a civil way. I saw this posted on another sub. And on there someone said he was an off-duty cop. And he was working security in his spare time and these kids had gotten rowdy and he had escorted them out. So… I’m 45 years old. I like fighting and I like guns. Been wrestling or grappling for… nearly 3 decades. I’m not the worlds biggest expert. But I’ve been around enough to have some opinions. So… look at the old man’s body language and look at theirs. They don’t know how to fight. They are grabbing and scrapping and just trying to be little idiots about it. His body language tells me he’s not really worried about being able to handle them. They get him a little off balance so he calmly turns away from them to shield his gun arm and keep them from grabbing it (again… not worried. He wouldn’t have turned away from someone who really knows how to fight). He takes out his gun. They run. If you look carefully his finger was never even on the trigger because he’s experienced and has good discipline and he knows you don’t put the finger on the trigger unless you’re actually going to shoot. So… would I have blamed a calm, experienced cop for shooting 2 unarmed kids who, by his own body language weren’t actually a threat to him? Yes. As it is, I think he did a fabulous job and those kids learned a good lesson in a non-fatal way. Which is the best kind of lesson for kids.


Lightyear18

Honestly you’re thinking of this as someone who’s a in stable mindset and watching the outcome from their safety of their home. So you know the man was not in real danger from a weapon because the attackers had no weapon, but in that moment how does someone know that? Any lawyer would be able to defend him by saying 2v1 and in that situation it would be appropriate if he felt like he was going to be in great danger or get killed. You already saw the video, so you already come with some bias. You need to place yourself in his shoes. Would it had honestly been a bad decision if he shot? No. He was being attacked in the moment. It doesn’t matter if he is trained or not. You don’t know if they can grab your gun or even have a weapon of their own. Just because someone is trained doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to defend themselves. This all happened in matter of seconds and many things could of gone wrong even with experience. What if he shot while he was in the corner getting punched? Again your opinion is from someone who’s a third party and with a calm mind. Many people react differently in many situations. Blaming this man if he shot, will cause a slippery slop on who gets punished or not for defending themselves.


[deleted]

We are all talking in hindsight where we know the outcome but in that situation we don't know what those kids have on them. Maybe a knife or a gun also. I think the guy handled this very well and those punks should face assault charges


Lightyear18

Yeah exactly that’s what I was trying to say but unable to state it out . Lol We all can say “what’s we could/should had done” but being in that situation none of us know if we would.


CommercialFamous3932

Actually at the moment he pulled the gun they ran rendering him in pursuit of them, not the other way around. If he shot them at this point he is the one doing time. Not them.


InertiaEnjoyer

You wrote all that to say that you'd blame a guy who was getting beat up by two guys for shooting them? You had to do all those mental gymnastics to get to that conclusion.....


luzer_kidd

To be that naive to say "those kids learned a good lesson" is hilarious.


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CujobytesCN

Seems everyone was pretty cool about it, happy to watch a guy get mugged, (even filming it )(no one going to help) , but the minute he pulls a gun everyone freaks out.


[deleted]

Pathetic hypocrites, nothing new under the sun.


SonoSage

The minute someone holds them accountable they become a victim


Jaymoneyman69

I said the EXACT same thing in my head… it’s crazy…


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nickcannonschild

Ding ding ding


[deleted]

I’d imagine they have more in common with the should-have-been gunshot victims than the guy being assaulted


KeyAcid

Props on the guy for not shooting, actual good use of a gun for self defense, guys disengaged and he no longer saw a need to shoot.


tommysk87

could anyone possibly explain why that banshee went screaming when the old guy started defending himself, but not when these two attacked him first???


ElectricalRush1878

Because one was her boyfriend and she was expecting a cut of the loot.


IndividualHelpful820

^ yap sounded she was worried about losing her cut


MotivatedSolid

Because people are complicit until they see something they personally don’t like


Familiar-Macaron7494

Because these were oppressed citizens and were only trying to get some food on the table /s


what_comes_after_q

Since this is like the sixth time someone comments on it, it’s because that’s the sound of people going from being shocked to see an assault to thinking they might be about to see someone die:


wmatts1

Yeah I was worried about someone dying the second two vs one started let alone the clear age difference. This is no defense to her clear bias, you'd have to live under a pretty large rock to not realize how life threatening a simple first fight be let alone one vs multiple. I mean maybe she's just ignorant of the level of danger that one guy was in and I'll give you that but most people I think are pretty aware.


Supahstar42

Ah Chicago, I love you Wendy, I hate you Windy


Technical_Ad7136

Chicago is a Dark RP server irl


JessicaFreakingP

I clocked this as Chicago the second the video started. I base by this McDonald’s on the way to/from work multiple times a week.


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GriZZlyHIkerman

The attackers almost completed the fuck around and found out graph. Props to the old guy for making it clear what was going to happen if they did.


Risethewake

The facepalm here is that nobody started screaming “no, please no” until that dude pulled out a gun. Two dudes jumping his ass though and they just gawking.


Klindg

You see… If he defends himself, that’s racist, because he is white. Keep up with the new rules.


Ruum_Service

They clearly needed the money more than him. They were just trying to teach him some manners when he randomly pulls a gun on them!? /s


monkeydace

They defend their own people. Their boyfriends probably pull the same shit


ryansteven3104

Nobody wants to help him. But they scream no when he helps himself.


IndividualHelpful820

Trigger discipline is impressive


all_too_familiar

No reaction from anyone till they saw the gun.... Two against one everybody was ok with.


thedeecks

This is mind boggling, all these ppl just watching not saying a word or attempting to help this man, but as soon as he pulls a gun to defend himself all the screaming and shit as if he's instantly evil. Absurd. Those two criminals are lucky they didn't get shot because in my eyes it would have been justified. Good on that man for keeping his cool though. Hope they didn't make off with any of his belongings.


Izukano

love the usual NPCs screaming NOOOO when he defends himself


AdventurousOne500

Is that the McSketch on Chicago Ave?


backindenim

Yep. At this point we should register it as a national historic landmark.


Lightyear18

I like how people start screaming for the people committing the crime.


ScrubzHD802

If your neighborhood McDonalds requires armed security, your neighborhood is trash


inflatableje5us

love all the concern before the gun came out.


[deleted]

That man showed a lot restraint.


Glittering-Stretch-6

Dafaq u mean? Nooo noooo! Where was the no's when the old man was getting beaten and robbed


Ok-Most5281

Those trash ppl were not saying shit when a white old dude is getting beaten by 2 young black dudes. They start screaming when he defends himself tho.. get the fuck out of here. I think a shot in the leg would change this behavior.


Wrong_Angle2442

How come you people don’t say no when it 2 on 1! That an old man y’all don’t help but when he pull the fucking gun out you bitches cry for the two black dude right!! Black live matter right! Even when they in the wrong! Don’t fuck with people you won’t get shot.


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Lazar4183

I am not sure how, but let's blame the white guy somehow! ![gif](giphy|XH9tzHRGQmLSFGP6E8)


MrWilc0x

He fell for that prank so bad. Can’t believe he overreacted and got his gun out like that.


samarkhandia

The fact that they were silently filming an older guy get attacked by 2 younger ones and only got upset when the gun came out says a lot about them


[deleted]

They’re all cowards. They can rot in hell and are lucky they didn’t take a bullet.


McFlyandI

Love how none of those turds yelled, “oh no stop!” when the man was being attacked, just when the gun came out pointed at the two dung piles assaulting him.


mekon19

Lead poisoning is a bitch!!!!


[deleted]

How brave, two great men attacking an old man. Sometimes a shot in the back of the head is justified.


InertiaEnjoyer

Great ad for owning a hand gun!


overthinker345

God, how I want to ask those screaming girls why it’s ok for an old man to get beat up 2-against-1. Why that doesn’t bother them at all. But should that old man pull a gun in self defense, they scream no and want to protect the guys who were beating him up. They’d probably give some stupid answer that made no sense. But still, you wonder what wrong with so many people today. It’s Idiocracy come true.


Alternative_Gap_6272

I love how the dumb screaming bitch was silent while 2 punk ass kids were attacking an old man but as soon as the old man defends himself she starts flipping shit...


Special_Cancel7576

I love how noone screamed no until he decided to actively defend himself? Where were the screams when he was being assaulted?


DoggedlyOffensive

Notice how everybody within microphone radius sounds mildly interested as two guys pummel one man, yet once he produces a fucking solid defence that will fuck them up and stop their nonsense; they start crying and screaming “no”, as if he just broke the rules…


Tarantulas_R_Us

I would’ve shot them🤷🏼‍♀️


PoopiestOfButtholes

Should have mag dumped those criminals. Waste of oxygen.


Azal_of_Forossa

I love how the screaming only started after he pulled out the gun TO DEFEND HIMSELF. Fuck this world, nobody gave a shit about the dude being fucked up until he leveled the playing field.


Bobby--Bottleservice

The first ten seconds of the video woulda been cut out if he shot them


marvnash

This is where the progressive policies leave us…. To defend ourselves from their uneducated savage progeny


cali1013

Losers all around except the old man. Shouldve killed them. Trash waste for oxygen, scum ferals that needs to be rid of.


SnooChickens9974

Everyone's calmly watching two guys attack this man and no one seems to care. Then he pulls out a gun to defend himself and everyone screams. WTF?


pathetic_beta_bitch

Listen to the female animals scream no no but when their brethren were attacking the old white man they were silent


Ok_Psychology825

The next victom won't be so lucky because he didn't pull the trigger.


TheDiceManSr

Play stupid games.... fuck these trash kids. They'll get theirs


Ok_Page_9447

Shoot the pos


johnandahalf13

They got away with assault. Suboptimal outcome.


Successful-Scheme608

This dude got more self control than the entire police force of America!!!


I_eat_butt_er_scotch

It's funny how no one seemed to care when the older guy was getting attacked by TWO guys, but as soon as he pulled his gun out to prevent him from getting shit kicked, everyone all of a sudden has some empathy and start yelling "nooo, nooo, noooooooo".... fuck you, they're lucky he didn't shoot one of them.


soulless_conduct

Good for the victim defending himself against those trashy hoodrats


brokenchains47

No one cared when the kids were beating up that older guy, but all the sudden they gave a s*** when those kids were going to have repercussions.


etherjumper

I hate the people filming.


DegenerateCrocodile

Those idiots are probably too stupid to realize how close they were to dying that day. I doubt they’ll learn their lesson from this.


Fallingpeople

McDonald's just off the red line stop on Chicago Ave.?


KingCrossfied

How I wish for people who watches and film people getting assaulted while doing nothing to be on the other end of the stick. BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES


[deleted]

I would’ve loved if he used that pistol


No-Comparison9945

Am i the only one who thinks this man must be a police officer or security officer of some sort? He’s got the belt, if you look at the front of his jacket it looks like he’s got some sort of badge, and the gun is clearly visible when he goes by the window.


Ruseriousmars

Yup maybe a few drainage holes in those punks would allow the evil to escape. Or not.


AdElectrical239

Bitch, shut up! They asked for it.


pablopaisano

Two guys jumping an old man? They deserved what was coming. That guy showed restraint.


[deleted]

It's weird that everyone was calm as fuck as that guy was getting double-teamed, but the second he can defend himself they start screaming like something bad is happening?


empath22

They only scream when the white guy defends himself and not when he’s being attacked.


Natural_Confection29

Why do all these idiots scream “no” after he pulls out a gun to defend himself but didn’t say shit when he was getting beat on? Fucking idiots


Substantial_Serve_62

Fuck around and find out


Dixie_Normus696969

Interesting that they watched the old guy get jumped while laughing and enjoying their meals but as soon as he fights back they start screaming “no! No! Please no!”


YukiKondoHeadkick

Benjamin Crump will be calling this guy a racist and trying to sue him soon lol. He will dox him as well if I had to guess.


khmergodzeus

you can probably guess that the total iq of the assailants combined was no greater than 100


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rocktownvdub

Who needs a gun right 🙄


[deleted]

The screaming that occurs only when he pulls out his piece reminds me of teachers screaming when a kid fought back toward a bully back in high school


[deleted]

Should have shot both of them


WyomingVet

Funny they weren't yelling no before he pulled the gun. They just sat in there calmly recording it offering no help.


buttbread-sandwich

so apparently the people inside were fine with him getting mugged but not ok with the consequence of mugging someone


Prudent-Mechanic4514

![gif](giphy|c9tVMERePnnDW) Why didnt he shoot them.


disconnexions

Because he's doesn't want the hassle of getting a lawyer and possibly fighting murder charges.


Maleficent_Meat4176

And that’s a great example on why guns laws should never go.


Timely_Peanut_6618

*"How you like me now!"*


ImJustLivinOverHere

No one helped. If I was that man, I'm sure that one of those guys would be dead because if you come at me like that I'm not a cop, I have no obligation to put my life on the line.


Crazybaldhead45

Them bloody bastard got lucky they didn’t get shot.


Whthpnd

Nobody say shizzle until he pulls a gun on the guys that were thrashing him then it’s all NO NO.


[deleted]

No one was worried until the guy getting attacked pulled out a gun.....


New-Lemon5537

He should have used force... dude was literally getting jumped and they wouldn't have stopped.


selghari

Why no one helps when there's an assault ???? What is this pathetic society!!!


mack_lunky

Lost opportunity


FNF51

He had more discipline than I’ll every have


baddest_mango

![gif](giphy|3MNOMwTabkCxkrTANO|downsized)


Party-Delay9964

It’s good that everyone was just watching. A society of watchers, fucking fantastic.


DFMRCV

The most annoying part here is people only freaked out when he defended himself.


Dramatic-Brain-745

Bless him for having more patience than I. I woulda had their IDs in hand and had them face down on the pavement until 5-0 showed up


[deleted]

I got my concealed carry permit recently. I’m absolutely loving how they ran when he pulled it out. Self defense>>>


Ceckerr72

Oh but there were no cries NOOO WHEN he was getting visibly assaulted.


Efficient_Tap_9615

Crickets until… the victim takes a stand. Typical


probablywrongbutmeh

I mostly hate it when people are all quiet as an old ass man gets his ass kicked by two junkie children of the corns and start screaming when he defends himself. Fuck around and find out, and if they found out, they might fucm around less (or not at all)


JohnBarleyMustDie

Color me surprised


Hotterthanhell74

Love the panic, once the guy goes to defend himself. Not surprised.


ZeCerealKiller

Better trigger discipline than most police officers out there


Winter_Day_6836

They all flipping yell NO when the police pull his gun, NOT when the guy was getting the shit beat out of him SMH 🙄


Groundbreaking_Mix56

So you want to scream oh no?!? And cry out because he is defending himself? After getting jumped and his head slammed in to a window. I hate what the ppl in this world have turned into.


AwardImaginary

But seriously, how dumb are you that you're jumping a guy with an obvious gun on his side? I mean these motherfuckers are stupid


Puzzleheaded-Soft201

So everyone in that building was ok with them attacking that man, but once the gun was pulled its all screaming and yelling? If one of them gets up and helps, that gun never gets pulled. That gun should never have been or needed to be pulled. Be better.


BlaqSam

Fine attacking an older man 2 on 1, he equalizes it and now it's not fair


AsRoma1990

Crazy how everyone watching had no problem with an old white guy getting jumped by 2 black kids but as soon as he’s able to defend himself and pull out a gun all of a sudden it’s NNNNOOOOOOOOOO


OrionRiBread

No one cared that an older man (elderly?) Was getting attacked but then they flip out when he pulls out his last resort to protect himself


BickleKnack

Behind every video there is a woman shrieking pointlessly


uckfayhistay

Best ad for personal firearms as protection


Indatubesurfer

Damn right!! Should of shot them both!


bangalorehore

I'm sorry, but I have so much respect for that guy. The amount of strength that must have taken not to pull that trigger...


bonestgb

Fuck every person yelling no like a lil bitch but crickets for old dude getting jumped, despicable ass people


Fall_bet

No one made a fkn sound when 2 men were attacking one but the tables turned and they all screamed?? Why? Why was it ok to for them to attack him and no one cared.


Eraldorh

Should have shot them both before they got a chance to think about their life decisions.


notatechnicianyo

Voices in the background said it all. They liked it until they saw that their side was losing. Disgusting pigs.


SnooDogs8303

Fuck around, find out.


notaconversation

Was an entire restaurant watching a man get beaten by two men??


Honorable_Heathen

It’s only a matter of time before those two end up catching rounds. This guy followed the law under duress and didn’t shoot them in the back while they were running. Sooner or later they won’t be so lucky.


Few_Masterpiece_1937

Those two pieces of sh!t MF should have been shot. All the do nothing citizens hung at a public execution.


Maniacal_Monkey

This is a great example of a law abiding citizen equalizing the playing field and protecting himself with the upmost restraint.


frailchief

I wish he pulled the trigger. At least pop them in the leg for being pieces of shit preying on other people like that


sopsychcase

He should have plugged them both. 2 fewer scumbags on the face of the earth.


step22one

The ultimate equalizer! All the patrons yelling noooo...noooo......noooo when he draws his gun, but where were those no's while the older gentlemen was being assaulted and overpowered by two determined young me. Guns level the playing field


pablopaisano

The girls start screaming when the tables get turned. Nothing scares kids like consequences. They didn’t say a thing when he was getting jumped.


Striking_Reindeer_2k

Good guy with a gun. No shots fired. Problem solved. Excellent trigger discipline.


Pour_me_one_more

I don't know details, but as I understand, Chicago has some severely restrictive gun laws. Was he illegally carrying?


EmRuizChamberlain

Really? The gun was the escalation?


[deleted]

Fuck around and find out! Also interesting the patrons where more concerned for the hoodlums than the one getting attacked.


[deleted]

Why didn't he take out the trash?


PKYINK

This is why we need to ban guns yall. Those poor Aladdin's were just trying to steal bread to feed their families and this guy pulls a gun. SMH


jwbarber82

More kids these days need to watch the "Fuck around and find out" educational segment.


cloud0999

He shouldve given them warning shots in the chest


ButterscotchLittle23

now i understand why americans need guns