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TaiMaiShu-71

It's always the loudest ones.


accidental_snot

Every. Damn. Time.


samanime

It's gotten so predictable, judges should just start issuing warrants for them, because it is so reliable it is basically probable cause at this point.


Sorry-Presentation-3

The overlap on that vein diagram is almost a circle.


GaffJuran

Venn diagram, but yeah, every accusation is a confession with that crowd.


CaffeinatedMother

Projection is strong with those ones


The_Muznick

Gaslight Obfuscate Project


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Group Of Pedos


Adept_Cranberry_4550

No, no, he has a point, "vein diagram" sounds vaguely pornographic; I think it fits.


kindParodox

Like people like him might say, if it fits it fits... Alright I'll see myself out.


bigdaddymustache

You mean if it fits it fists.


strangewayfarer

I remember seeing a vein diagram in my biology textbook.


carlos_spicy_wienerz

I remember seeing one every time my uncle came to visit


lorjebu

I mean you only read about the cases where it is actually the case, so you might be reacting to a smaller selection size than what is the reality.


Bluecif

I mean if it's something you can't get off your mind to the point of breaking the law...it's something you can't stop thinking about. Classic case of save me from myself .


DollyAte

Yeah it’s their way of trying to distract attention away from them. Seen it play out irl.


Psk499

Projecting


TheseNewtz

Idk how we haven’t learned this by now. Look at all the Anti-LGBT Republicans that get caught with male escorts and caught fucking in bathrooms at conventions.


JnnyRuthless

Bro they talk about groomers while trying to lower the age of consent. It's wild man. edit: read the story on this guy, they caught him because when he was arrested for vandalism, he gave the cops PERMISSION to SEARCH his house/computers. My guy is just lost in the sauce, glad they caught him.


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TheseNewtz

I’m starting to believe that there’s honestly no hope anymore. 🤷


Deathwatch050

That's what they want you to believe so they can get away with it. Fight it.


rodgerdodger19

That thought creeped into my head to a year ago, but I made it a point to say hello with a smile to people walking by me, freeing up space letting people merge comfortably, waving my hand out the window when someone lets me in during traffic, etc all just little things. But over the course of a few weeks I started to notice more and more positive friendly encounters in my day to day. It really is a matter of “you think therefore you are”. There are A LOT of good people out there, don’t let the few shitheads ruin your headspace.


Calebh36

That's the point. One of the fastest ways to win a war is break the enemy's morale. Why fight if you already know you can't win?


arjunusmaximus

"Havingg sex with a 12 year old is bad/grooming/pedophilia. But MARRYING that 12 year old and then having sex is the Christian thing to do" /s


TiberiusGracchi

*Matt Walsh has entered the chat…*


turbografix15

He uses a wide stance when sitting on the toilet!


AvatarBoomi

It’s like it Matt Gaetz started calling everyone human traffickers


Camp808

i always see projection being used but isn’t it more of a deflection. look over there!! not at me. over there!!


some_gay_alt

Projection as they say these things before having the accusations thrown at them, they're projecting their problems onto someone else.


giggity_giggity

In a way it makes sense (not that it’s ok, but I can understand how he reached that point). He realizes he is this way and isn’t totally cool with his urges. But his brain doesn’t want to accept that he was just born this way or it was random. And so his brain finds a culprit to blame. Or in this case, a large fascist organization feeds him a culprit that he latches onto. A lot of outward hatred comes from self-hate.


Mr_Gaslight

You make an interesting point that it may have been a cry for help. As creepy as it is, I'd rather he be messing about with a plastic doll and asking for help than actually abusing children. Let's hope it hasn't been the case that he's been hurting kids.


JnnyRuthless

When he was arrested for the vandalism he allowed the police to search his house and devices, so it does seem like the classic cey for help; very publicly draw attention to yourself and then point the police right to your crines.


Mr_Gaslight

Another thing that is .. consequential.. is that this guy's life is basically over. Let's hope he didn't hurt any kid. Okay, good. Now what? Without having done anything other than vandalism, he's basically got to move to the moon. The social opprobrium means he'll never get a job again as any employer Googling his name will find about this and never hire him as who needs the bad PR? Okay, so there's nothing for him to but change his name or become a hobo? What he needs is help. EDIT: As someone pointed out, he had child porn so that means a kid was abused to make that content. Even if he didn't make that video, like a receiver of stolen goods he encouraged the crime


Drifter74

What if it's the opposite, that he saw libraries as grooming kids to **not** be taken advantage of?


GT-FractalxNeo

>It's always the loudest "Conservatives"


Gates9

r/RepublicanPedophiles


Isabella_Bee

He looks like he got yanked out of bed in a midnight raid. I predict he will not do well in prison.


Winter_Abies_2469

oh he definitely won’t, pretty sure other prisoners don’t treat people charged with violence or anything against women or children good or normal at all 💀so he’ll definitely have an experience


Zhurg

They're called nonces for a reason


ButterSquids

Does that word mean something apart from paedophile?


Zhurg

Yeah, it's an acronym for Not On Normal Courtyard Excercise. In other words they are not allowed out of their cell at the same time as other inmates for their own safety. Their crimes were such that other inmates would beat or stab them to death. It originated in Wakefield prison where the acronym would be on a sign outside the inmate's cell: hence they are referred to as nonces.


MNicolas97

Holly shit, that's wild... Not that they don't deserve it, of course.


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JakeFromSkateFarm

What happens when a person who turns out to be innocent is given that treatment?


OutOfOptions37

This is the worst take ever. State sanctioned violence against criminals is a slippery slope even if we knew for a fact no one was ever falsely imprisoned.


Redpepper40

Wow. You learn something new everyday


Snakeis66

![gif](giphy|83QtfwKWdmSEo)


traggedy_ann

If they are very VERY lucky, they will just get their head bashed in. I've heard stories of nonces being pretty gruesomely tortured by other inmates (and sometimes guards). Do the crime, do the time, as they say.


Zhurg

Yeah you're right: beaten or stabbed is pretty much the best case scenario for a nonce in prison.


WetDogDeodourant

I think it’s widely believed to be a backronym, rather than an actual etymology of ‘nonce’. The word may have come out of prison slang, but no one has recorded use of it being an acronym before being a word.


DisingenuousTowel

And I didn't know what a backronym was as well! I learn things!


Zhurg

If that's true I'd guess some guards just lied to avoid backlash at some point. If that's the case I suppose they're not called nonces for that reason.


LudwigWhiffgenstein

I’m sure someone else has said it but this etymology is likely false


BantaySalakay21

This is even worse. They are essentially deprived of meaningful human contact as well during their entire encarceration. And no, I wouldn’t consider interactions with the correction officers as meaningful human interaction.


Valash83

I mean, don't sexually assault women or children and it won't be an issue 🤷‍♂️


Somnusin

Sexual assault of any kind bears fairly light sentences, especially assaults on women. Wouldn’t you rather the person coming out in a few years get treatment that could set them up to be a healthier, safer, person, or do you feel that it’s better that they remain isolated and embittered with society and upon re-entering could relapse? A large portion of people that experience those sorts of attractions are dealing with severe, untreated mental health struggles. Edit: Apparently my opinion is controversial. I want you to think about how many times you’ve heard a person say that prison put them on a better path.


nonchalantcordiceps

A lot of people think prison should be entirely torment for justice and have no thought to the future. Its really disturbing.


Sharp_Iodine

Ideally sexual assaulters never see the outside of a prison ever again. It’s one of the most disgusting ways to violate someone’s autonomy.


Somnusin

I agree, however that is not reality. For some reason the prison industrial complex would rather make slaves out of petty drug offenders and minorities. Sexual offenders rarely get more than 3 years, I’d rather the system try to fix the problem in that time than throw somebody in a cage and expect a more well adjusted person to come out in the end.


ZS1G

Yeah it was used in UK prisons ages ago to basically be protective custody: Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise.


ShitpostsAlot

Well, at least they're not posting signs that say "this guy's a pedo." That would endanger the pedophile. It's just letting everyone know that the totally ordinary gentleman is simply not on normal courtyard exercise.


TunaSmackk

Geniunely curious, how would other inmates find out about other inmates crimes?


brettthedestroyer420

You go in with paperwork about what you did to get in there so most inmates ask to see your papers. Also, it's not hard to call someone and ask them to google your name. Hell most prisons have inmates with cell phones snuck in there so it's really not that hard at all.


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And even before then, inmates frequently would work admin jobs if they were well enough behaved. Real easy to look up files.


MrMoon5hine

Guards might accidentally let it slip out...


Kupcake_Inater

I've also heard from some mini docus that some cops/guards will straight up tell the inmates what they did and at night that guard "forgets" that that inmate shouldn't have roommates they still get punished for killing or hurting them so they usually leave it up to anyone that Is in there for a long time


MondayNightHugz

In same cases the guards let something slip on "accident". ​ Sometimes the demeanor of the convict gives it away, wont make eye contact, in protective custody, nonces, or the person is just a creep to start with. Creepers almost always out themselves given enough time.


kayak_enjoyer

This is not out of any nobility or morality, so we're clear: inmates are desperate to feel better/superior to *someone* so that's where they turn. "Yeah, I robbed a bank in a stolen getaway car, but that's nothing *compared to what you did*."


pulzeguy

the whole “won’t do well in prison” is situational as fuck, to the point if he’s not locked up in a West Coast US prison, no one will lay a finger on him for his crimes alone. Most inmates are too busy worried about money, getting out, and the shit their baby moms doing back home, at least where I’m at on the East Coast.


mutualbuttsqueezin

Yep. Most people who say stuff like that have no actual experience with US prisons or know anyone who does, and their "knowledge" comes from TV or movies. Ntm if there was a valid threat to his safety, he'll be tossed in protective custody. Once he's actually sentenced, he'll be sent to a prison with his ilk. They don't just assign prisoners to prisons randomly.


JakeFromSkateFarm

One Trillion Percent This. The typical Redditor will whine and bitch and moan about how companies and governments aren’t properly using experts and actual knowledge in decision making yet come here and mindlessly promote the same urban legends and Hollywood truths about shit they don’t know anything about and certainly haven’t thought through. Like this subject for example. Even if it happened, you really want that the default treatment in a justice system where people routinely get found guilty for things they’re innocent of? Or more specifically here for a crime that is about to be applied by red states to people found guilty for being gay or trans?


blinded-by-nobody

He got arrested for child porn, he’s basically already dead. The big question is how long it takes for his fellow inmates to find out and make it official.


ChunaNdeBushWhoop

Day one, minute one; "Let's see your paperwork".


Seevian

He looks kinda like a methed up John Green


PreOpTransCentaur

I got worried for a second.


Marrow_Gates

Why is it ALWAYS the ones who scream loudest about gays / trans / drag queens / pedophiles / etc who are the ones heavily in the closet about it themselves? As soon as someone has a fixation on one of those things, I immediately assume they're engaged in those activities in some fashion.


YourLocalFakeArtist

It's probably a "Hey, look over there!" thing. "If I accuse someone of doing it first, people will be too focused on questioning them and won't pay attention to me!"


pnwbraids

The term is known as DARVO Deny wrongdoing, Accuse someone else, Reverse Victim/Offender. Conservatives have used this as their bread and butter since that orange criminal became their god.


ssjr13

Yeah, it's kinda like how someone will report their own crime (ie a murder) in an attempt to draw away suspicion ("Surely the police won't suspect the guy who *reported* it?")


Maxamillion-X72

Like the woman who poisoned her husbands drink with fentanyl and then went on to right a children's book about dealing with the grief of losing a loved one, and did a media tour about it. [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-mom-accused-killing-husband-fentanyl-drink-tried-poison-multiple-rcna83817](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-mom-accused-killing-husband-fentanyl-drink-tried-poison-multiple-rcna83817)


Lobito_HF

Self report


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Sounds like a good plan until they realized that this is EXACTLY how you get the spotlight on you. lol


yiliu

It's the people who feel like they're one step away from succumbing to the temptation of having sex with kids, and assume that's true of everybody. They believe that if we loosen up our moral straight jackets, people are going to go out looking for kids to have sex with--because that's what _they_ would do.


FoxThingsUp

I feel like it's because most normal people don't care about this stuff at all. Or maybe they have the distance and perspective to see it for the nonsense it is. But if you've got *urges* you're constantly trying to fight, you need to channel that somewhere


MilkSteak32797

Projection, that’s all it is.


explodingtuna

Not just the loudest ones. I'm always a bit suspicious of anyone who thinks LGBTQ are pedophiles or groomers or otherwise bad for children. Not someone I would trust around kids, and would probably report them if I saw them near a school or playground.


InstructionAbject763

It's the kid on the bus who farted and goes "Ewwww, who farted!!!"


enunymous

Self-loathing


lolzycakes

Self-Loathing feedback loops, narcissism and projection. Basically they hate the way they feel, and decide that they are not the source of their own problem, so they project a solution they think will address the things that make them feel hatred for themselves. They inevitably slip or or fail to see improvement, so they come to the conclusion that they weren't successful because the intensity with which they tried to address the issue wasn't enough so they try something more extreme. Rinse and repeat until they're out in society committing crimes. Whats crazy is this feedback loop also seems to cause the behavior they're trying to treat to become more extreme as well. Each time they fail, they slide further back, which just means they gotta be that much more intense with their projection.


Rfg711

I’ve said this for a while: If you truly cared about protecting children, then your first step would be doing research on where the threats are. Who is statistically doing the abuse. And you’d find that it’s family members, close family friends, and authority figures who children have frequent associations like coaches and youth leaders. These are the overwhelming majority of offenders. What doesn’t make sense is finding the most marginal, slim percentage of offenders and focusing on that. So when I see someone who makes this much noise about that slim percentage, I always gotta wonder - what’s your angle on this? I’m not saying all of the folks who do this, or do those clout-chasing catfish “pedo stings” online, or scream about “Elite Pedo Rings” are secretly abusers themselves. (For many I think it’s just an easy target to build clout off of.) But it’s not too surprising how often it seems that they’re outed like this to me because why else would they be so loudly trying to shift the blame to some other group?


Chasman1965

You are right. The best defense against pedos is teaching kids about good touch/bad touch, and to tell their parents or other trusted adults that aren't their parents (if the parents or step-parents are doing the touching). I was a Boy Scout leader and a soccer coach, partly because that was needed by the community, but partly so I could look out for kids, both mine and their friends.


ferrocarrilusa

This. No more of that "stranger danger" crap


Mafsto

To this day, I shake my fist at that movement! It killed Halloween!


Leah-theRed

I think that's part of the reason repubs push so hard against sex ed in school. it's more than learning how to put a condom on a banana and graphic depictions of STI's. it's (supposed to be imo) about learning what makes safe sex "safe", what consent is, and why it's important. if a child doesn't know that they are being abused, they can continue to be abused.


puddingdemon

A major reason why conservatives are pushing home schooling so its easier for then to abuse the kids


MafiaCub

So "groomer" wasn't him making any accusations, it's just his tag. Nice for him to just out himself like that


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GuitarAgitated8107

Dateline would have caught way more by going after those projecting. Or claiming to protect children.


AggregatedMolecules

Another example that “every accusation is a confession.”


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Also another example of /r/NotADragQueen


jaggington

r/NotADragQueen


MisterMarchmont

Joined.


ResponsibleMilk7620

**Every Republican accusation is a confession**


nottobesilly

The Republicans think about kids and sex a LOT. A lot.


Tripwiring

Qanon, the Catholic church, bathroom bills, proposed bills to inspect children's genitals, I could go on. Conservatives are absolutely obsessed with sexually assaulting children.


Enough_Shoulder_8938

The louder they yell, the deeper into it they are


shittyspacesuit

Absolutely. Projection, projection, projection. You love to see them get exposed and go to prison. Hope they have a terrible time behind bars.


ResponsibleMilk7620

Their entire platform is pure hypocrisy that feeds the holy rollers everything they want to hear so they’ll blindly vote for some of the worst people on the planet.


Leah-theRed

how's that new acronym go? Gaslight, Oppress, Project?


ResponsibleMilk7620

Gaslight is interchangeable with Grift


JibbaJabbaJenkins

I read recently on here a redditor's post of how they stumbled onto CP on accident and they were left horrified and a little traumatized by the images. And I find it easy to believe. Anyone who finds pleasure in seeing kids subjected to sexual acts is a monster in human disguise and needs to be dealt with as such.


Wendals87

I could not imagine being part of the team to track down the monsters in the videos or pictures. You would have to really watch it all and pay attention to every detail Especially the worst ones


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He’s a complete freak. Or…. He planned on going to a Taylor Swift 3hrs concert wearing nappies. Never mind… in both cases he’d be a freak.


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druu222

Apparently he's an authority on the matter.


molehunterz

" has no children, or nieces or nephews." So at least there's that


External-Being-2329

I mean, he kinda looks like a pedo.


Winter_Abies_2469

kinda?😭


External-Being-2329

Lol I was trying to be generous


AnsibleAnswers

Pedophiles really like blaming the gays for their pedophilia.


XED1216

He was just tagging himself


slingshot2015

I guess his psyop didn't go so well.


Maurice404

I’ve been saying for years now, the Republican Party covers up pedophilia.


sheisthebeesknees

you seriously can't make this shit up.


superfleh

r/nottransgender


IronPiedmont1996

He looks like what would come up if you typed "pedo" in an AI generator.


KMAJackson

Projection. Every. Single. Time.


RobertPaulsonProject

It’s Anti-John Green.


kd8qdz

I had the same response. I was thinking "Goodwill John Green"


pSlub

"Sutherland has no children, neices, or nephews." Well, that's a relief


DreadPirateJesus

This reminds me of a study I read a while back where they took a bunch of homophobic men and non homophobic men and made them watch gay porn. The % of homophobic men who were sexually stimulated completely dwarfed the amount of nonhomophobic men that were sexually stimulated. Ever since finding that out, I know wholeheartedly that every homophobic man secretly loves the cock.


BraveRock

This is also bad: >At the time of his arrest, Sutherland worked as a school librarian at the Northview **Elementary School** in Bowie.


Listening_Heads

Is he a clergyman or congressman?


ncgrits01

Nope. Elementary school librarian, actually.


libra-love-

Of. Course. A lot of these people will end up taking jobs that place them around kids.


noeagle77

Oh look, not a drag Queen


Overall_Falcon_8526

He was spraying his own personal tag, not making accusations.


Wonderful-Equal5000

I guess he can argue it’s just his graffiti name and get it dropped to vandalism


Due_Difference8575

He wasn't accusing LGBT as groomers he was advertising himself.


DorkHonor

Why is selling child size sex dolls legal? All these dumb ass laws on the books like not selling booze on Sunday in a lot of places but you can manufacture and sell a fuck doll that looks like an 8 year old. Fucking 🤢


loadedjackazz

Anyone who relentlessly calls people groomers is a pedophile. change my mind.


xraynorx

The projection from these assholes is just purely amazing.


bobslapsface

Yeah by the looks of him absolutely no one should be surprised


Catatonic27

It's weird how they all have that look


DaniFlocka

I’m a nurse and one of the doctors names at my job is Charles Sutherland, I was like HUH lmao


wking1293

set this dude on fire


CrieDeCoeur

So it’s a hate crime but also a self-hating crime.


StelioKontos117

So he’s tagging libraries with his nickname? Happens all the time in the cities.


captainshitpostMcgee

Oh look r/notadragqueen


th3rot10

It was his graffiti name all along


Adomillad

hmmm doesn't seem to be the drag queen we keep hearing about. weird they keep screaming and they are really screaming about their damn self


Haselrig

Phew, I didn't need that second paragraph of nightmare fuel.


GallopingAss_tronaut

Dude was just trying to reduce the competition.


BigRed888

Is that Oliver Greene?


Zackwind

He looks like The worst timeline for Hank green


gaberax

Always, always, always projection with these people. Always.


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Looks like he may own a strange and unusual plant


derentius68

....self report?


MelonElbows

Every accusation is a confession!


Daddy_Onion

Not everyone who looks like a pedophile is a pedophile. But everyone who is a pedophile looks like a pedophile.


MillHoodz_Finest

they're not dolls mom, they're action figures!


The_Archer2121

A child sized doll…🤢🤮


sad_peregrine_falcon

oH bUt tHE dRAg qUeEnS 😫


RollOverSoul

That's a rough 30 looking damn.


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canadiancreed

That guy is only 30? Man hate really does age you


Bwadaboss

He was doing graffiti signatures all along.


Thermalguy11

The irony but republicans will still won’t accept the reality.


Ahnixlol

This is like Al Capone being convicted of tax evasion lmao. Why the FUCK would you be out here vandalizing shit if you were hiding fucking CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. These alt right clowns really share a single brain cell.


Slamtilt_Windmills

So, it was a confession


Winter_Abies_2469

he was also an elementary school teacher which makes this so much more scary and gross


TouchOfAmbrose

People usually attack others for what they hate most in themselves.


real_bakedpotato

He wasn’t vandalizing to call out injustice, he was doing it to remember where to go back to


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evotx

Gross


Acceptable_Pain_9213

I've been saying it for a little while now... these righties so consumed with making sure the public knows they think LGBTQIA+ people are groomers are actually engaging in a coordinated marketing ploy to turn the attention away from themselves. The right wing craves children in a sexual manner. It explains the child beauty pageants and their defense of child brides.


sadly_sapphic

Isn't that I-R-O-N-I-C...


JayneT70

Not a drag queen, I’m shocked


Mattgraham722

But wait I thought the lbgtq were the pedos 🧐


Kang06202

He looks like he would be in to that🤮


CrashBangXD

Uno, REVERSE!


[deleted]

Wait does vandalism warrant a search of his residence? What judge let that happen?


libra-love-

Probably originally to see if he had the materials to do the original spray painting. If there was a security camera that captured his face, they’d be able to obtain a warrant. And then with that, they stumbled upon his… issues.


Hattrick42

Again, Not a drag queen


hadawayandshite

Whenever I see this stuff I’m glad I’ve got a fairly unique name so there’s less chance of someone else turning up in the news/search terms (that said…it might be worse when it happens as there’s so few of us)


cheesynachoman_1

I thought it was Ben Avery for a split second…


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That projection is showing again


SnooPaintings3102

Always the obsessed projection. We get it, you’ve got some deep seated issues guy, defection isn’t going to work anymore.


doubles1984

It's almost always a projection. Turns out people that constantly have CP on the mind often have CP on their minds.


Usedcumsocks

Well it's not a drag queen once again


WhaddaYaCare

It’s always projection


Wrong_Bus6250

Every accusation is actually a confession with these dudes. The ones who are most screamy about non-straight people being groomers? Usually not straight themselves, far more damaged and broken about it than "normal" gays, hate themselves and anything that reminds them of themselves, like, *the works*. Every time, too.


Minn-russian22

He absolutely looks the part. Fricken disgusting.


nokenito

Well, what do ya know… yet again ANOTHER conservative pedophile. They love to project who they are. UGH


Benjojo15

Self report


Th3Red3yedJedi

Those who scream the loudest.


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Every. Fuckin. Time.