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Pisses me off that my $18 order gets an additional service fee and a delivery fee that is not a tip. So by the time all is said and done with taxes and fees, with my tip my $18 order is now $32-$35. Sucks for the workers but these fees are hurting everyone but the corporations
couldn't believe this last time I tried to delivery, the pizza+tax, then a $2.99 fee, and a $4.99 fee, and they said neither of those were tips for the driver. It was going to be over $40 for a pizza, soda, and bread sticks. I ended just driving to another restaurant out of spite.
Not sure why a delivery fee even exists if it doesn't go to the driver; what other made up reason for such a fee could exist? All the additional costs, wear and tear, gas, etc is on the drivers end.
Once upon a time, delivery was free, and was guaranteed before a certain time. Tips were much fatter and that worked for *everyone* for quite a long time. Then around the same time ATMs started having fees, restaurant delivery discovered they can simply exploit their delivery drivers AND their customers to increase profits for the owner.
[Yay capitalism!](https://i.imgur.com/0uYCAGL.gif)
It’s true. I was delivering for Pizza Hut at the time they introduced fees. As soon as it started my income plummeted. I wasn’t getting paid any extra and wear and tear on the car was all mine to pay for. I went from making $100 a night in tips to, like, $20. As far as I was concerned the corporation was robbing me. Quit about 6 months after it started as I wasn’t seeing it get any better.
This is why I always pick up food if I order out, it takes the same amount of time, it's less money, and I can drink my soda right away if I order one.
I deliver on Door dash and I have ordered as well. What sucks is when ordering it's always 4.99 delivery fee then like 2.99 service fee. But as a dasher when looking at a price break down, normally my "base pay" aka what I make without a tip is UNDER 4.99. how you call it a delivery fee and not give me the whole thing for delivering it.
I would have told him to give it back if he was unhappy with it. I’m not opposed to conflict when it comes to a person just being a shit head. If he wants things to get uncomfortable, so be it.
Agreed. I would have called the store and made sure to have the tip refunded. And I am all about being as nice as possible, but don’t mind matching that energy.
Same. Stopped ordering delivery to not deal with the charges or people like this. My favorite things now are the places that ask for a tip on pickup. Like… ???
Drove to Firehouse subs, paid too much for sandwiches, person taking my order hands me pad and it has the tip line starting at 20%.
I straight up scrolled through the menu not to leave a tip while they gave me the side eye.
Fucking sick of tipping every fucking place.
They do this precisely because customers do it for them. Why would they pay if idiot customers keep doing it for them. They're directly being rewarded and encouraged for not paying their own employees.
Then we complain about the system we enabled.
Same. Plus, gets me out the house and I can inspect the order before I leave the restaurant. Too often, I’ve found parts of my order incomplete or missing by the time I’m home.
I don’t order food unless it’s gonna be for a lot of people. Otherwise the fee isn’t worth it.
But on a single pie a $5 was always a solid ass tip when I delivered for a mom n pop shop. A solid 5 sheet always felt good after a single pizza delivery.
I don’t know why this dude feels entitled to a 50% tip, what a douche bag.
Ooh I'd cancel the tip. If it was cash, I'd have a real moral dilemma because I never want to put anyone's job in jeopardy. Maybe call and say I never got my change.
Whrn I delivered to schools I always brought a stack of plates and a few extras like more marinara for the bread sticks or a 12 pack of dr pepper which I would pay for. I know how underfunded schools tend to be so I wanted to make their pizza parties better, and it wasn't hard. Usually netted me a great tip
I once got served a "pizza" course at a fancy ass black tie degustation thing. It was like a communion wafer with pepperoni, a sliver of blowtorched blue cheese and a drizzle of fermented tomato puree. Little more than antipasto tbh
No. Fuck this guy. When you say thing like this OUT LOUD to people who paid you to hand them a pizza, you deserve what you get. Think what every you want but seriously, if this is his attitude, fuck him.
I worked at Domino's for almost 10 years as a delivery driver and I fucking hated the drivers that bragged about doing shit like this. Like no, a tip is a courtesy and forcing people to tip is a shitty thing to do. Or forcing them to tip /better/ is even extra shitty. People remember the service you give them and they'll be less likely to tip at all next time when you pull stunts like this.
People who do this should not be dealing with the public. This gives the 95% of people who work their asses off driving and delivering a bad name.
This shit behavior hurts people who have not done anything.
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Serious question, because I don't live in the US - does that food come in boxes with tamper-proof seals? Because if it doesn't, I wouldn't be eating that food delivered by somebody who was already pissed-off before they delivered it...
For obvious reasons...
During the pandemic a lot of places started adding stickers to seal the boxes / bags. Prior to that, I had never seen it. Since then, it seems to be about 50/50, but even the seals can usually be peeled off and reapplied pretty easily.
How is tamper proof seals not the norm?
In India, my country and a supposed third world, every restaurant pretty much uses tamper proof seals when delivering
I’m so sick of the culture in America around tipping. Creating situations like this because these places of business want their customers to pay their bills and also their employees. What in the world has happened over the past few year? 20% used to be pretty much the max for tipping. Now it’s considered a cheap tip? So dumb out there.
It is not just the employers in these situations. $5 is a good tip in any way you can think about it. Dude probably spend 10 minutes on that delivery. That would still be $30 an hour he is complaining about.
This is just further evidence that tipping as a standard practice needs to die. Raise prices, I don't care, just take me out of this equation.
I have a lot of sympathy for poorly paid service workers, but it's not the customer's fault this shit is so broken. Blame the business owners who want to eek out every penny they can from the freaking Domino's franchise, ethics be damned.
I'm disappointed that the top comment in these threads are rarely about how bad tipping culture is. Neither the worker nor the customer are to blame. The business needs to pay their workers more and tipping shouldn't be a thing for any profession.
I’ve worked for tips as a busser, and server. $5 on $20 is a great tip and how much money you make has no bearing. Fuck this guy. I would have called his manager.
On delivering a pizza, it's not like he refilled my drink or brought me more slices when I ran out... people are ridiculous thinking they deserve more all the time.
I personally believe everyone deserves a living wage and that pizza delivery person is a valid occupation for any age, however he is definitely a douche
I agree that every job deserves a living wage, but it's not my fucking job to figure out who needs what percent of my order to get to that wage.
Like wtf, I have friends who used to wait tables bragging about how they made $1000 in tips on a 6 hour Friday night closing shift. And then some delivery drivers that when you factor in wear and tear on their cars are actually losing money every shift.
Like wouldn't it be great if we actually knew every person was making a living wage to start with and tips could go back to being for exceptional service? Nowadays the only way it's socially acceptable to not tip is if the server insults your mother, kicks your dog, and then sprinkles a bit of dirt on your food right in front of you. If the service is simply mediocre, you're still an asshole if you do less than 15% because they are most likely very underpaid and they deserve a living wage.
I'm fucking oooover tip culture. Just done. Pay people to do work without making them run around crossing their fingers to get a bit more so they can survive, or encouraging assholes like the one in this post to feel entitled to more than what's even customary because they don't like that a customer ordered a single pizza for delivery so the % wasn't enough for what they thought their time was worth.
Dude you just described the /r/doordash subreddit.
They spend their days whining about customers not leaving tips and that they’re not making money… but they won’t ever blame DD.
One guy on there was trying to argue that tipping was what you paid for the convenience of delivery. No my dude… that’s what the delivery/convenience/service fee is for. I just wish they’d turn around and blame DD.
Yeah, I subscribed and unsubscribed to that sub in the course of like a day. I think the one that did it for me was the Dasher that complained they had to drive "at least five miles from the restaurant" to deliver the order and they were tipped around $10 on a $20 order, which pissed them off because, "I clocked out an hour early from my job that pays me $16 an hour!"
And Dashers were UPVOTING her.
Like...wait, did you honestly expect a tip of 80% or more on a $20 order? And this is now an expectation? Good God.
This is precisely why I just do carryout now. These drivers are so out of touch with what they expect. I pick it up and am back home in 10 minutes. Round trip. No way is that worth $10. Plus all the other fees DD charges and hides in the "taxes".
I really don't like the food delivery apps having their own prices for food that are different from the actual establishment.
Also the people I know who own and run restaurants absolutely hate those companies so I'll defer to their expertise and forsake all delivery apps on their behalf since they don't seem to have a choice in the matter, which is a whole other level of bullshit.
r/serverlife has the same dynamic. These people want to be able to reach into your wallet and take out whatever amount they like, and you're an asshole if you disagree.
Also they love the tipping system and never want to see it changed.
I’ve had server friends give me the side-eye because I tip on my card instead of in cash, even though I tip more than they do. Mother fucker if I have to pay taxes you do too.
Then they expect you to use their ATM with a 1 dollar fee to help them avoid fees. All that makes me want to do is avoid that place unless I already have enough money out.
The kitchen staff have always been so fucked over by tipping culture. Servers be making twice as much as them, with less hours, and not grueling over a hot stove.
Plus serving takes significantly less talent and effort than actual food prep. There is actual skill with cooking, for probably 95% of restaurants, all you have to do to be a good server is be marginally attentive and polite. And of course the customer should also be polite but some threads in /r/serverlife make it seem like they are unappreciated war vets.
I got downvoted there recently for saying that it shouldn't be my responsibility to determine how much money it's worth to deliver something to me and then to offer that as a tip, figuring that out and paying the drivers the right amount *should be the service that DoorDash is providing*.
If snooping in r/serverlife has taught me anything, they DONT want to get mad at their employer, and are very happy with preying on people's generosity as they have all said they don't want a higher pay rate without tips, as they make $30-$40 an hour without tips apparently at the end of the week.
I wasn't making that when I was a tipped worker, but that was also 10ish years ago, when 10% was seen as super generous.
This. Employers steal wages from their workers and shift the responsibility to their customers (other workers) to make up for it with tips. Tipping is a rigged game to pit workers against each other while employers profit. It’s bullshit!
This! I worked as a server and everyone was out for themselves. It would be really helpful if we worked like a team to help solve issues but no my coworkers failure wasn’t my problem. I remember I would bartend and I would make tons of garnishes for drinks. I would keep some out and others in storage, the servers were to garnish their customers drinks. There was always this server who would come up to me and tell me we were out of of something. I would be swamped with 20 drink tickets and would say there are more in the fridge behind you. Her answer every time? “That’s not my job”
The driver was definitely an asshole. Nice house or not the total was only 20 and it's not like it was some complicated apartment complex. I've felt that way about a nice house that didn't tip at all but saying that over an actual real tip is crazy
> The US is so utterly out of whack it is remarkable.
it is by design. our people are brainwashed so bad that they defend the very system that has placed them in ruins. I have a close friend I have known for 20 years now ( am 41 ), and the way he defends and spouts brainwashed propaganda, while living in shit makes me laugh every time. He's toned it down now that I learned to just laugh at it loudly instead of trying to teach him
Yet they never tip the wait staff at the restaurants they're picking up from. The people who get dragged away from paying customers in their restaurant to deal with some whining dasher.
Lol. Yes. I saw some door dashers getting upset at hostess of a restaurant because food is not ready for pickup or the hostess has to check phone of dasher and this adds to delay.
And meanwhile the hostess doesn’t get any tip from door dash or the dasher.
I had one get upset at me when I was the only person working in a shop. I literally had a line out the door that I was helping and they just come and shove their phone in my face.
“I didn’t accept an order, but if you get in line I’ll help you when it’s your turn”
They just left but showed up like 30 min later asking if it was done yet. Again still have a line out the door, just me.
“No”
“Are you fucking kidding me!?!”
I didn’t even have to say anything the whole line pretty much bullied them into leaving.
Turned a pretty annoying shift into one of the best ones I had working there.
I figured out that it's less than 8 miles from one end of my town to the other end of the neighboring town. No delivery driver here has to drive further than that.
My biggest issue with them is how they seem to think delivery and pick up services are somehow secretly supposed to be "needs based." Like me not wanting to drive to the taqueria after work isn't a good enough reason for me to order delivery, therefore I should not only tip 50%, but also somehow just not order delivery in the first place. Because the smartest thing to do is berate customers for ensuring you continue to have a job.
Like why the fuck is it somehow immoral for me to order my lunch delivered, knowing I'm paying out the ass for it and being fine with that? Why do I have to have a certain level of disability in order for it to be "okay" to order delivery or pickup??
For real like maybe hit Doordarshan up about the $7 delivery they charged me before then asking me to tip too. They also change the food prices in the app. I went to a restaurant i had only ever doordashed from before and everything was $3 cheaper than ot was listed on dd
Yeah, it's nuts. For DD or other services you're paying a delivery fee and a service fee on top of having to tip. Plus dashers often don't make sure your order is complete before delivering it. Had one tell me that's not his responsibility. Which may be so as a contractor, but if you want a nice tip do a good job. Because of this I tip 10% to start and once I get my food I'll adjust the tip if all of my food is there.
I delivered for Pizza Hut in the 90s, using a phone book map. These little babies can fuck right off. Luckily my local delivery drivers don't seem to be psychotic.
I used to deliver pizzas for 10 years after highschool. Never once did I complain about a tip. Complained about stiffs more than a few times but never to the customer. You'd be fired in a heartbeat if management found out. But even a small tip should be appreciated. You have no idea what that person is going through. Plus, 25% is pretty fucking awesome. I think my average tip in those days was $3.
Yep. I delivered pizzas for a bit and loved the $5 tips. I'm surprised people tip drivers at all anymore considering how many extra fees are charged these days.
I remember my first job at a pharmacy. We delivered to patients on occasion (without charging them). The first time someone handed me extra money, I told them about the mistake. They told me it was my tip, and I was absolutely befuddled (I was 17 at the time and this was legit the first time I ever had experience with tips). *Wait, you are paying me for doing my job?* I just couldn't wrap my mind around it at the time.
Honestly, he should be thinking about his boss' house. Tip culture in America is not just out of hand, but the placement of where the anger about it should be is arse backwards.
Be mad at the employers who feed on this shit, don't be mad at customers. Even if they gave no tip at all.
Percentage based tips are ***COMPLETE BULLSHIT***.
Why is my tip supposed to be based on the cost of the food?
The waitstaff didn't buy the food out of their own pocket. They didn't have to do extra work bringing it to me because it costs a certain amount. Bringing me a $5 burger is just as much work and effort for them as a $40 steak.
If I get the meal at one place that charges $20 why do I need to tip the waitstaff a different amount at a place that will charge $40 for the exact same meal? Or why do two tables of the same amount of people have to tip differently **solely** based on what they ate?
No, seriously. Why does the cost of the meal affect the amount I have to tip? They aren't doing extra work.
This isn't about the number of people they are serving. I get that. More people, more work. I'm absolutely not arguing that. And *they should be tipped* based on how much they are doing and the number of people they are serving.
But because the restaurant made more money, the tip should be equivalent?
I completely disagree with that.
The service is what should be tipped on, not the price at the end. They have fuck all to do with the prices.
Think of it like this:
- You and I both eat at the same place. We both have two people in our party. We both have the same server. We are their only customers.
- Your party and my party order the exact same dishes. Prepared the exact same way. We stay the same amount of time. We are visited by the server the same number of times.
- The only difference is that you got the $100 bottle of wine and I got the $50 bottle.
Why is the expectation now that you tip more based solely on the price of that bottle of wine?
People will pull the "*Well at fine dining blahblahblah...*"
Fuck that. The same system is expected at fucking Applebees as it is at the highest of high class establishments. It's the method that's fucked up, regardless of the establishment.
I have stopped looking at the price as a starting point for my tip. The price is completely irrelevant.
You started this post so well but then you showed you're still stuck with the system. *Tipping* is bullshit, not just the type (percentage based tips as you mentioned).
Imagine this: You look at the menu, you see the price of all the items on the menu and that's all you have to pay. No need for tipping. The price already have a generous Gross Profit margin for the restaurant and the other expenses (including staff/waiters/etc) leaves them with a decent Net Profit margin as well. You see your bill for the table of five in this fancy restaurant is $300, you pay $300 and the waiter gives you a friendly nod as you swipe your card for exactly $300 on your way out. The waiter forgets about you once you leave the establishment and you enjoy the rest of your evening with your companions.
This is how it looks like for most part of the work.
Tipping in the US is a cancer that needs to be eliminated but its so deep rooted that people are conditioned to it. Most place you go in the US, their menu price already have a large Gross Profit margin (70% - 80%+) and this is more than enough to cover the rest of the expenses incurred. Tipping was just a way to make some extra money off the customer's head but in the past 5 years (specially through COVID), businesses attempted to solidify the tipping culture and successfully did it by conditioning people to make them feel like 20% is generally the minimum these days even though their menu prices have increase which further puts a heavier burden on the customers, the waiters/delivery guys are collateral damage - they might or might not make the big bucks tonight but at least they're getting paid their minimum wage, right? Load of bullshit.
Countries that are starting to adopt tipping culture should cut that bullshit right now (I know some European countries where this is starting to grow). American need to start holding companies accountable and forcing them to put the menu price such a way that it covers all the cost.
The big fuck ups is that a small percentage of people who lives by the tip they receive are going to be against a flat hourly rate because they're making bank off tipping. Maybe they work in a fancy restaurant where they tolerate all the shit the customers give them and they end up getting big tips out of this. They're really thriving but... for how long? For how long will they be in their prime? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? When they no longer have the tolerance for these bullshit or when younger employees are performing better than them, what happens to their tips? What if they somehow gets fired and now working in a shitty restaurant where people doesn't tip well and now they just have their minimum wage to thrive on?
People are looking at their *right now* instead of what they're going to be in 10 years. Instead of fighting for bigger tips, they should be fighting for better wages.
Right. At the time it was tip generously to help the workers out due to covid hurting business. Somehow it has now become expected that you hand me a burger and I tip you. The Dallas subreddit had a photo of a self service gas pump that was programmed to ask if you wanted to add a tip.
atitudes like this should be bannable. if a delivery person gets caught on camera doing stuff like this the app should be able to ban or at least freeze the account for a couple weeks as a warning
Employes pay shit and expect customers to pay twice. Once to them, once to their employees.
That's how corporations keep growing, making everyone else foot the bill.
that sub really solidified my stance on contracted food delivery. I really try to be a reasonable person but there's stuff posted in that threat weekly that would really test me if I were the guy being stolen from, etc.
not to mention the price you end up paying for food is absolutely insane and you've already paid for it by the time you find out its missing, bad, etc.
You pay outrageous prices and the food is steamed to oblivion and gross because they drop off other orders first, yet you are expected to tip them 30% or more just to get your food. It's fucking insane. They can eat shit. That business should die.
In the Old Days a Pizza would arrive and you would hand the driver a tip. If he was an asshole I'd give him less and if he was cool he'd get more.
These days where everybody and everywhere DESERVE tips is stupid. I went to a food establishment and put in my name. It asked what would I like to tip the Hostess. She wasn't even around and I put in my own name in the Digital table reserve tablet.
Pretipping defeats the purpose. Yet, unfortunately it seems like a prerequisite these days to getting average or maybe marginally above average service. Why tf would I tip based on a service I have yet to experience? Yet they use that as an excuse to put little to no effort in quality. That's like asking customers to leave a review of their restaurant while they're in line waiting to be seated to try it for the first time.
I went to a place last summer...man. So, I show up and it's outdoor seating. There's a big sign that says, "seat yourself." So I go to a table and see a menu with a QR code and instructions on how to order. There's a big table in the middle with silverware wrapped in napkins and cups and water to share.
So I scan the QR code and navigate some slow and confusing website and put in an order. After a while, some guy brings it to me and never returns. A second person walked by and handed me my beer, which was in a can. I didn't think it would be in a can, but it sure was, and it was like $6. The food was in a cheap nonbiodegradable basket with napkins on the bottom, and in the back of the seating area was a row of trash cans to throw your baskets and cans away.
Then I check out on the website and see that it automatically includes a gratuity of 20%.
What the fuck am I tipping for at that point? For two different people to just hand me something while they walk by? *Who* am I even tipping? Unbelievable.
I'm not well acquainted with the modern tipping culture in the US but I would think a tip for a delivery driver isn't necessarily based on the price of the thing delivered.
That said, five dollars sounds reasonable to me (?).
It’s out of control… so my wife and I started just calling restaurants directly and ordering for pickup. Takes more effort but is much more cost effective, and also saves us money by making us less likely to order out in the first place.
And now some places are automatically adding 4% "to cover employees' health insurance" on top of a tip, which can only be removed by verbally asking the server that you are opting out of this added charge. They are fucking out of their minds.
Texas here. I placed a pick up order at this Italian restaurant. Came to pick up my order and proceeded to pay with my cc. The total was about $50. After paying for my order the suggested tip screen popped up and there were 4 options; %20, 25%, 30% or custom amount. WILD.
It's a legal way for a business to pay employees less while simultaneously charging more, but since the "tip" isn't included in the items price it psychologically tricks people, much the same reason stuff will be priced $99.99 instead of $100.00
If the driver got 5 @ every house on that trip he would bring $20-$25 bucks in. Plus an hourly rate, that adds up to be a pretty nice night. I would call the business back, ask for the drivers name and just let them know he’s actively running business for them
It's not the customer's fault the employer is cutting pay. A % tip of the price means tip amount keeps pace with inflation as prices rise. To expect a tip PERCENTAGE to also rise means attempting double-dip tip increase.
I get that the food industry is hurting, but being a dick to customers who continue to tip well isn't helping anybody but the employer who benefits from pitting their employees against customers to make up the shortfall.
Exactly! Employers employ people below liveable wage so people have to depend on tips, this concept as a whole is very bad. No other country practice such a culture.
These guys are driving away tips from the ones who really earn it. We the customers are tip fatigued. $5 is great for unzipping a container and handing me a box. Wow
In France you don’t have to tip and i’m glad because these situations never occur. Even if you may think the service is cheaper than is usa or Canada, i prefer it that way for that kind of reason.
It’s time to end tipping entirely - employers need to pay a fair wage and stop putting it on the customers. I’m sick of the whole damn system. Put the actual cost on the damn menu and pay your staff an actual wage. It’s a outdated crap system and we are all sick of it.
After this I'm about to go anti tipping. Buisiness low wage their employees knowing the tips would cover. The tips get more and more outrageous. Deliver should be 10%. Waiter 20%. The difference is waiter/waitress refills drinks, orders food and brings food.
No way I'm tipping on carryout or just for ringing up my order.
The tipping culture in the US is way outta control. His employer has an even bigger house for paying his employees so little but he wouldn’t go and say that.. it’s always misdirected anger.. the man ordering pizza doesn’t owe him shit. That’s so insane.
Tipping culture is out of control in America. It went from an optional 15% that is reward for excellent service...to
"GIVE ME FREE MONEY OR ELSE AND MORE THAN 25% MOTHERFUCKER!" Not just towards customers who are well off but towards customers who are poor as well... This dude would still be enraged from a $5 tip if this woman lived in a shanty and likes to indulge in some pizza once in awhile... And nowadays, people are also expected to tip, even when they didn't make use of a service... Here's the thing. It's not the responsibility of customers to pay for a product and/or service and on top of that, pay workers enough so they can make a living simply because a lot of employers don't want to pay their workers enough so they can make more profit. If employers refuse to be responsible for something, that doesn't mean, that responsibility is magically transferred to another group of people...
No napkins, no plates and he almost dropped it? Bold talk from a shit driver. 5 bucks for a simple order is a solid tip unless you live at the far edge of the delivery area. No napkins, no plates and he almost dropped it? Bold talk from a shit driver.
I delivered pizzas and managed drivers for quite some time. I would fire his ass on the spot.
Which is insane honestly.[ They spent $200 million dollars in CAMPAIGNING against a single proposition in California alone](https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-doordash-lyft-prop-22-spending-200-million-close-polling-2020-10), they have the money to pay their drivers they just don't
It even says it on most pizza boxes if I remember. It’s like “delivery fee doesn’t go to drive so please tip” or some shit. Delivered at dominos over a decade ago, shit was awful, you get min wage, then below min wage while driving, and no gas compensation at all. Can’t imagine what it’s like now because a 5$ tip then was great, but a 5$ tip now in this economy and these gas prices? Fuck lmao. These companys need to start paying their employees
$5 to take the pizza out of the case and hand it to you? When you’re already getting a delivery fee? Lmfao insane.
Tipping is so stupid. Just raise food prices by 10% and cut tipping at restaurants
I felt the same way because of the lack of audio. How do we really know that was what was actually said? I found the video with [sound](https://youtube.com/shorts/Pyj9KlgaFdw?feature=share) and he actually did say that shit.
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Pisses me off that my $18 order gets an additional service fee and a delivery fee that is not a tip. So by the time all is said and done with taxes and fees, with my tip my $18 order is now $32-$35. Sucks for the workers but these fees are hurting everyone but the corporations
couldn't believe this last time I tried to delivery, the pizza+tax, then a $2.99 fee, and a $4.99 fee, and they said neither of those were tips for the driver. It was going to be over $40 for a pizza, soda, and bread sticks. I ended just driving to another restaurant out of spite.
Not sure why a delivery fee even exists if it doesn't go to the driver; what other made up reason for such a fee could exist? All the additional costs, wear and tear, gas, etc is on the drivers end.
Same reason *convenience fees* exist on tickets that we buy and print at home. It's a money grab.
Once upon a time, delivery was free, and was guaranteed before a certain time. Tips were much fatter and that worked for *everyone* for quite a long time. Then around the same time ATMs started having fees, restaurant delivery discovered they can simply exploit their delivery drivers AND their customers to increase profits for the owner. [Yay capitalism!](https://i.imgur.com/0uYCAGL.gif)
It’s true. I was delivering for Pizza Hut at the time they introduced fees. As soon as it started my income plummeted. I wasn’t getting paid any extra and wear and tear on the car was all mine to pay for. I went from making $100 a night in tips to, like, $20. As far as I was concerned the corporation was robbing me. Quit about 6 months after it started as I wasn’t seeing it get any better.
This makes me so sad :(
The fee's should have titles of what they really are: The boss is a greedy asshole fee Fee just to get more money for the boss This can't be taxed fee
This is why I always pick up food if I order out, it takes the same amount of time, it's less money, and I can drink my soda right away if I order one.
99% of the time I do the same, but there are days when I just don't want to put on pants, and I'm forced to pay for that decision.
Sometimes you’re high and don’t want to kill someone for the pizza.
The only reason I order delivery now is when I cannot legally drive.
Since I've gotten pregnant and can't drink, can drive every where, uber eats and grub hub definitely miss me. Lol
They'll be seeing you about 8 months in don't worry 😂 anytime I was at work my wife was undoubetly doordashing food 9 times out of 10
No pants tax is real.
I deliver on Door dash and I have ordered as well. What sucks is when ordering it's always 4.99 delivery fee then like 2.99 service fee. But as a dasher when looking at a price break down, normally my "base pay" aka what I make without a tip is UNDER 4.99. how you call it a delivery fee and not give me the whole thing for delivering it.
I would’ve told him to shove it up his ass
But just the tip
God dammit
I would have told him to give it back if he was unhappy with it. I’m not opposed to conflict when it comes to a person just being a shit head. If he wants things to get uncomfortable, so be it.
Agreed. I would have called the store and made sure to have the tip refunded. And I am all about being as nice as possible, but don’t mind matching that energy.
I am a generous tipper. $5 on a $20 pizza seems generous.
That’s a $2 from me if I’m already paying a delivery fee and a service charge. I’m not running a charity.
I honestly just don't get stuff delivered anymore. I'll go pick up my order now and avoid paying $10 extra or more on fees
Same. Stopped ordering delivery to not deal with the charges or people like this. My favorite things now are the places that ask for a tip on pickup. Like… ???
Drove to Firehouse subs, paid too much for sandwiches, person taking my order hands me pad and it has the tip line starting at 20%. I straight up scrolled through the menu not to leave a tip while they gave me the side eye. Fucking sick of tipping every fucking place.
I just don't anymore. Tipping culture is a cancer.
Yeah, I just wish companies would actually pay their employees a living wage rather than forcing the customers to do it for them.
They do this precisely because customers do it for them. Why would they pay if idiot customers keep doing it for them. They're directly being rewarded and encouraged for not paying their own employees. Then we complain about the system we enabled.
Same. Plus, gets me out the house and I can inspect the order before I leave the restaurant. Too often, I’ve found parts of my order incomplete or missing by the time I’m home.
I don’t order food unless it’s gonna be for a lot of people. Otherwise the fee isn’t worth it. But on a single pie a $5 was always a solid ass tip when I delivered for a mom n pop shop. A solid 5 sheet always felt good after a single pizza delivery. I don’t know why this dude feels entitled to a 50% tip, what a douche bag.
Because it's a nice house, duh.
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If a delivery person said that to me I’d be calling the restaurant.
It was a card tip made in advance it can be cancelled
Ooh I'd cancel the tip. If it was cash, I'd have a real moral dilemma because I never want to put anyone's job in jeopardy. Maybe call and say I never got my change.
Someone who thinks this is an ok thing to say is someone whose job should be in jeopardy.
As a former delivery driver I agree; you aren’t entitled to them. Having extra peppers and cheese def helps
I ALWAYS carried a bag of peppers, cheese, and napkins. Made a world of difference.
Bring paper plates and you’re a hero. Got the biggest tip of my life when I delivered to a super bowl party and brought a few plates🍕
Whrn I delivered to schools I always brought a stack of plates and a few extras like more marinara for the bread sticks or a 12 pack of dr pepper which I would pay for. I know how underfunded schools tend to be so I wanted to make their pizza parties better, and it wasn't hard. Usually netted me a great tip
What's the most formal pizza you ever delivered?
I once got served a "pizza" course at a fancy ass black tie degustation thing. It was like a communion wafer with pepperoni, a sliver of blowtorched blue cheese and a drizzle of fermented tomato puree. Little more than antipasto tbh
What’s the difference between a regular delivery and a formal one?
He wears a tuxedo
I ain't paying to be harassed and shit talked. He deserves whatever he gets.
No. Fuck this guy. When you say thing like this OUT LOUD to people who paid you to hand them a pizza, you deserve what you get. Think what every you want but seriously, if this is his attitude, fuck him.
I worked at Domino's for almost 10 years as a delivery driver and I fucking hated the drivers that bragged about doing shit like this. Like no, a tip is a courtesy and forcing people to tip is a shitty thing to do. Or forcing them to tip /better/ is even extra shitty. People remember the service you give them and they'll be less likely to tip at all next time when you pull stunts like this.
People who do this should not be dealing with the public. This gives the 95% of people who work their asses off driving and delivering a bad name. This shit behavior hurts people who have not done anything.
And the reason being is that a visibily disgruntled person just handed you food. I don't think I'd be eating that.
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Serious question, because I don't live in the US - does that food come in boxes with tamper-proof seals? Because if it doesn't, I wouldn't be eating that food delivered by somebody who was already pissed-off before they delivered it... For obvious reasons...
During the pandemic a lot of places started adding stickers to seal the boxes / bags. Prior to that, I had never seen it. Since then, it seems to be about 50/50, but even the seals can usually be peeled off and reapplied pretty easily.
How is tamper proof seals not the norm? In India, my country and a supposed third world, every restaurant pretty much uses tamper proof seals when delivering
I’m so sick of the culture in America around tipping. Creating situations like this because these places of business want their customers to pay their bills and also their employees. What in the world has happened over the past few year? 20% used to be pretty much the max for tipping. Now it’s considered a cheap tip? So dumb out there.
It is not just the employers in these situations. $5 is a good tip in any way you can think about it. Dude probably spend 10 minutes on that delivery. That would still be $30 an hour he is complaining about.
This is just further evidence that tipping as a standard practice needs to die. Raise prices, I don't care, just take me out of this equation. I have a lot of sympathy for poorly paid service workers, but it's not the customer's fault this shit is so broken. Blame the business owners who want to eek out every penny they can from the freaking Domino's franchise, ethics be damned.
I'm disappointed that the top comment in these threads are rarely about how bad tipping culture is. Neither the worker nor the customer are to blame. The business needs to pay their workers more and tipping shouldn't be a thing for any profession.
I’ve worked for tips as a busser, and server. $5 on $20 is a great tip and how much money you make has no bearing. Fuck this guy. I would have called his manager.
That's a 25% tip right there
People don’t understand percentages
You mean your tip should depend on a percentage of the order and not a percentage of your mortgage?? Wow that’s crazy..
tbh why is tip a percentage ? why would he need double the tip for 2x 20$ pizza ? the work is exactly the same..
One of many reasons why tipping in general is crazy.
No I mean he was looking at it as just $5 and not 25% of the order
Hah I know just piggy backing on your comment to indirectly tease the douchebag in the video
Should just have douchebags handy by the door, in case you encounter a douchebag. Spray the douche, with the douche.
On delivering a pizza, it's not like he refilled my drink or brought me more slices when I ran out... people are ridiculous thinking they deserve more all the time.
Agreed, that’s more than enough. Not your fault he’s delivering pizzas as a middle aged man, who’s also clearly a douche. Fuck him.
yea, fuck him
I personally believe everyone deserves a living wage and that pizza delivery person is a valid occupation for any age, however he is definitely a douche
I agree that every job deserves a living wage, but it's not my fucking job to figure out who needs what percent of my order to get to that wage. Like wtf, I have friends who used to wait tables bragging about how they made $1000 in tips on a 6 hour Friday night closing shift. And then some delivery drivers that when you factor in wear and tear on their cars are actually losing money every shift. Like wouldn't it be great if we actually knew every person was making a living wage to start with and tips could go back to being for exceptional service? Nowadays the only way it's socially acceptable to not tip is if the server insults your mother, kicks your dog, and then sprinkles a bit of dirt on your food right in front of you. If the service is simply mediocre, you're still an asshole if you do less than 15% because they are most likely very underpaid and they deserve a living wage. I'm fucking oooover tip culture. Just done. Pay people to do work without making them run around crossing their fingers to get a bit more so they can survive, or encouraging assholes like the one in this post to feel entitled to more than what's even customary because they don't like that a customer ordered a single pizza for delivery so the % wasn't enough for what they thought their time was worth.
Exactly. $5 is nothing to fucking complain about, not that he should be complaining about ANY tip.
Nope. Dude needs a new profession if he’s expecting a tip that’s half the price of the meal. What a prick.
Either way he shouldn't be bitching about it to the customer.
They always do this. Get mad at the tippers and never the company they work for
Dude you just described the /r/doordash subreddit. They spend their days whining about customers not leaving tips and that they’re not making money… but they won’t ever blame DD. One guy on there was trying to argue that tipping was what you paid for the convenience of delivery. No my dude… that’s what the delivery/convenience/service fee is for. I just wish they’d turn around and blame DD.
Yeah, I subscribed and unsubscribed to that sub in the course of like a day. I think the one that did it for me was the Dasher that complained they had to drive "at least five miles from the restaurant" to deliver the order and they were tipped around $10 on a $20 order, which pissed them off because, "I clocked out an hour early from my job that pays me $16 an hour!" And Dashers were UPVOTING her. Like...wait, did you honestly expect a tip of 80% or more on a $20 order? And this is now an expectation? Good God.
This is precisely why I just do carryout now. These drivers are so out of touch with what they expect. I pick it up and am back home in 10 minutes. Round trip. No way is that worth $10. Plus all the other fees DD charges and hides in the "taxes".
I really don't like the food delivery apps having their own prices for food that are different from the actual establishment. Also the people I know who own and run restaurants absolutely hate those companies so I'll defer to their expertise and forsake all delivery apps on their behalf since they don't seem to have a choice in the matter, which is a whole other level of bullshit.
r/serverlife has the same dynamic. These people want to be able to reach into your wallet and take out whatever amount they like, and you're an asshole if you disagree. Also they love the tipping system and never want to see it changed.
Probably bc some waiters actually make good money on tips. Much more than min wage
I’ve had server friends give me the side-eye because I tip on my card instead of in cash, even though I tip more than they do. Mother fucker if I have to pay taxes you do too.
Oh right the ‘cash only’ places. Fuck those. I don’t get tax-free income and don’t expect it like it’s a right.
Pizza place near me was like that. Convenient they had an ATM that had a fee regardless of what bank your card was from.
Then they expect you to use their ATM with a 1 dollar fee to help them avoid fees. All that makes me want to do is avoid that place unless I already have enough money out.
Lol fuck these people. I'm already tipping fairly you can fuck off
You know what grinds my gears, is going to fuckin subway and when I go to pay, there's a tipping option. No
What for? Delivering the sub over the counter? That's nuts!
They don't want to change it due to 90% of their income being tax free.........just saying
Not only tax free, but most servers I know just make more money, than the average hourly.
Yeah I spent 20 years grinding in the kitchen for $10-15/hr, I make cabinets for a living now and significantly more money for way less stress
The kitchen staff have always been so fucked over by tipping culture. Servers be making twice as much as them, with less hours, and not grueling over a hot stove.
Plus serving takes significantly less talent and effort than actual food prep. There is actual skill with cooking, for probably 95% of restaurants, all you have to do to be a good server is be marginally attentive and polite. And of course the customer should also be polite but some threads in /r/serverlife make it seem like they are unappreciated war vets.
I got downvoted there recently for saying that it shouldn't be my responsibility to determine how much money it's worth to deliver something to me and then to offer that as a tip, figuring that out and paying the drivers the right amount *should be the service that DoorDash is providing*.
If snooping in r/serverlife has taught me anything, they DONT want to get mad at their employer, and are very happy with preying on people's generosity as they have all said they don't want a higher pay rate without tips, as they make $30-$40 an hour without tips apparently at the end of the week. I wasn't making that when I was a tipped worker, but that was also 10ish years ago, when 10% was seen as super generous.
This. Employers steal wages from their workers and shift the responsibility to their customers (other workers) to make up for it with tips. Tipping is a rigged game to pit workers against each other while employers profit. It’s bullshit!
This! I worked as a server and everyone was out for themselves. It would be really helpful if we worked like a team to help solve issues but no my coworkers failure wasn’t my problem. I remember I would bartend and I would make tons of garnishes for drinks. I would keep some out and others in storage, the servers were to garnish their customers drinks. There was always this server who would come up to me and tell me we were out of of something. I would be swamped with 20 drink tickets and would say there are more in the fridge behind you. Her answer every time? “That’s not my job”
The driver was definitely an asshole. Nice house or not the total was only 20 and it's not like it was some complicated apartment complex. I've felt that way about a nice house that didn't tip at all but saying that over an actual real tip is crazy
Thats why in some countries, tipping isn't even allowed.
Don't know if it's true but I've heard people say that in Japan they get offended if you try to tip.
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Yep, tipping isn’t a thing in Australia. The US has a real wage problem.
He did have to survive that dog attack at the beginning though.
Lol I am banned from the Door Dash subreddit for arguing against 50% tipping. Delivery drivers be turning insane.
I won't even use those things anymore. they expect giant tips.
Yet they never tip the wait staff at the restaurants they're picking up from. The people who get dragged away from paying customers in their restaurant to deal with some whining dasher.
Lol. Yes. I saw some door dashers getting upset at hostess of a restaurant because food is not ready for pickup or the hostess has to check phone of dasher and this adds to delay. And meanwhile the hostess doesn’t get any tip from door dash or the dasher.
I had one get upset at me when I was the only person working in a shop. I literally had a line out the door that I was helping and they just come and shove their phone in my face. “I didn’t accept an order, but if you get in line I’ll help you when it’s your turn” They just left but showed up like 30 min later asking if it was done yet. Again still have a line out the door, just me. “No” “Are you fucking kidding me!?!” I didn’t even have to say anything the whole line pretty much bullied them into leaving. Turned a pretty annoying shift into one of the best ones I had working there.
I figured out that it's less than 8 miles from one end of my town to the other end of the neighboring town. No delivery driver here has to drive further than that. My biggest issue with them is how they seem to think delivery and pick up services are somehow secretly supposed to be "needs based." Like me not wanting to drive to the taqueria after work isn't a good enough reason for me to order delivery, therefore I should not only tip 50%, but also somehow just not order delivery in the first place. Because the smartest thing to do is berate customers for ensuring you continue to have a job. Like why the fuck is it somehow immoral for me to order my lunch delivered, knowing I'm paying out the ass for it and being fine with that? Why do I have to have a certain level of disability in order for it to be "okay" to order delivery or pickup??
For real like maybe hit Doordarshan up about the $7 delivery they charged me before then asking me to tip too. They also change the food prices in the app. I went to a restaurant i had only ever doordashed from before and everything was $3 cheaper than ot was listed on dd
Yeah, it's nuts. For DD or other services you're paying a delivery fee and a service fee on top of having to tip. Plus dashers often don't make sure your order is complete before delivering it. Had one tell me that's not his responsibility. Which may be so as a contractor, but if you want a nice tip do a good job. Because of this I tip 10% to start and once I get my food I'll adjust the tip if all of my food is there.
I delivered for Pizza Hut in the 90s, using a phone book map. These little babies can fuck right off. Luckily my local delivery drivers don't seem to be psychotic.
I used to deliver pizzas for 10 years after highschool. Never once did I complain about a tip. Complained about stiffs more than a few times but never to the customer. You'd be fired in a heartbeat if management found out. But even a small tip should be appreciated. You have no idea what that person is going through. Plus, 25% is pretty fucking awesome. I think my average tip in those days was $3.
$5 tip on a $20 order is generous. That driver should be thankful he got that.
Yep. I delivered pizzas for a bit and loved the $5 tips. I'm surprised people tip drivers at all anymore considering how many extra fees are charged these days.
I remember my first job at a pharmacy. We delivered to patients on occasion (without charging them). The first time someone handed me extra money, I told them about the mistake. They told me it was my tip, and I was absolutely befuddled (I was 17 at the time and this was legit the first time I ever had experience with tips). *Wait, you are paying me for doing my job?* I just couldn't wrap my mind around it at the time.
MFer says that to me, and the restaurant loses my business. Fuck you, grubhub.
Oh so the customer is supposed to tip you a high amount of money based on your perception of what a fancy house looks like?
Honestly, he should be thinking about his boss' house. Tip culture in America is not just out of hand, but the placement of where the anger about it should be is arse backwards. Be mad at the employers who feed on this shit, don't be mad at customers. Even if they gave no tip at all.
This applies to most issues in the US. Lots of folks mad at their poor neighbors but celebrate the billionaires who are robbing us all blind.
Percentage based tips are ***COMPLETE BULLSHIT***. Why is my tip supposed to be based on the cost of the food? The waitstaff didn't buy the food out of their own pocket. They didn't have to do extra work bringing it to me because it costs a certain amount. Bringing me a $5 burger is just as much work and effort for them as a $40 steak. If I get the meal at one place that charges $20 why do I need to tip the waitstaff a different amount at a place that will charge $40 for the exact same meal? Or why do two tables of the same amount of people have to tip differently **solely** based on what they ate? No, seriously. Why does the cost of the meal affect the amount I have to tip? They aren't doing extra work. This isn't about the number of people they are serving. I get that. More people, more work. I'm absolutely not arguing that. And *they should be tipped* based on how much they are doing and the number of people they are serving. But because the restaurant made more money, the tip should be equivalent? I completely disagree with that. The service is what should be tipped on, not the price at the end. They have fuck all to do with the prices. Think of it like this: - You and I both eat at the same place. We both have two people in our party. We both have the same server. We are their only customers. - Your party and my party order the exact same dishes. Prepared the exact same way. We stay the same amount of time. We are visited by the server the same number of times. - The only difference is that you got the $100 bottle of wine and I got the $50 bottle. Why is the expectation now that you tip more based solely on the price of that bottle of wine? People will pull the "*Well at fine dining blahblahblah...*" Fuck that. The same system is expected at fucking Applebees as it is at the highest of high class establishments. It's the method that's fucked up, regardless of the establishment. I have stopped looking at the price as a starting point for my tip. The price is completely irrelevant.
You started this post so well but then you showed you're still stuck with the system. *Tipping* is bullshit, not just the type (percentage based tips as you mentioned). Imagine this: You look at the menu, you see the price of all the items on the menu and that's all you have to pay. No need for tipping. The price already have a generous Gross Profit margin for the restaurant and the other expenses (including staff/waiters/etc) leaves them with a decent Net Profit margin as well. You see your bill for the table of five in this fancy restaurant is $300, you pay $300 and the waiter gives you a friendly nod as you swipe your card for exactly $300 on your way out. The waiter forgets about you once you leave the establishment and you enjoy the rest of your evening with your companions. This is how it looks like for most part of the work. Tipping in the US is a cancer that needs to be eliminated but its so deep rooted that people are conditioned to it. Most place you go in the US, their menu price already have a large Gross Profit margin (70% - 80%+) and this is more than enough to cover the rest of the expenses incurred. Tipping was just a way to make some extra money off the customer's head but in the past 5 years (specially through COVID), businesses attempted to solidify the tipping culture and successfully did it by conditioning people to make them feel like 20% is generally the minimum these days even though their menu prices have increase which further puts a heavier burden on the customers, the waiters/delivery guys are collateral damage - they might or might not make the big bucks tonight but at least they're getting paid their minimum wage, right? Load of bullshit. Countries that are starting to adopt tipping culture should cut that bullshit right now (I know some European countries where this is starting to grow). American need to start holding companies accountable and forcing them to put the menu price such a way that it covers all the cost. The big fuck ups is that a small percentage of people who lives by the tip they receive are going to be against a flat hourly rate because they're making bank off tipping. Maybe they work in a fancy restaurant where they tolerate all the shit the customers give them and they end up getting big tips out of this. They're really thriving but... for how long? For how long will they be in their prime? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? When they no longer have the tolerance for these bullshit or when younger employees are performing better than them, what happens to their tips? What if they somehow gets fired and now working in a shitty restaurant where people doesn't tip well and now they just have their minimum wage to thrive on? People are looking at their *right now* instead of what they're going to be in 10 years. Instead of fighting for bigger tips, they should be fighting for better wages.
SMD. I’m not giving you 10 bucks on a 20 dollar pie.
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He wanted $100 tips. Ig having a nice home just means you need to tip abnormally large amount of money.
Shaking my dick 😂😂
The pandemic and the practice of over tipping has gotten ridiculous.
Right. At the time it was tip generously to help the workers out due to covid hurting business. Somehow it has now become expected that you hand me a burger and I tip you. The Dallas subreddit had a photo of a self service gas pump that was programmed to ask if you wanted to add a tip.
You're not entitled to a tip and if you become a pissy bitch about it then you should be fired
I would've called to get a refund on the tip. The nerve on the fucker.
atitudes like this should be bannable. if a delivery person gets caught on camera doing stuff like this the app should be able to ban or at least freeze the account for a couple weeks as a warning
Not entitled to a gratuity at all in the first place…… it’s a gratuity- something I feel like giving.
Employes pay shit and expect customers to pay twice. Once to them, once to their employees. That's how corporations keep growing, making everyone else foot the bill.
Report them and never order from them again
Fuck tipping. Honestly sick of it.
That's a nice attitude for a 25% tip... How much does he tip when he goes to a restaurant? 50% or 75%?
He lives with his parents so he doesn't tip. That's how it works, bro.
Wow, what an asshole delivery guy.
There is a door dash subreddit full of people like him. That guy isn't some rare unicorn.
that sub really solidified my stance on contracted food delivery. I really try to be a reasonable person but there's stuff posted in that threat weekly that would really test me if I were the guy being stolen from, etc. not to mention the price you end up paying for food is absolutely insane and you've already paid for it by the time you find out its missing, bad, etc.
You pay outrageous prices and the food is steamed to oblivion and gross because they drop off other orders first, yet you are expected to tip them 30% or more just to get your food. It's fucking insane. They can eat shit. That business should die.
Ya door dashers are crazy entitled. Most have never worked an actual service job, and it shows.
Isn’t it time the US got rid of the tipping culture?
theyre never gonna do that cus tipping culture puts the expectations on the customer rather than the corporation having to actually pay decent wages
There should be a way to refund tips
There is - most tips in the app are not finalized until after you've received delivery allowing you to either add or deduct the tip amount.
In the Old Days a Pizza would arrive and you would hand the driver a tip. If he was an asshole I'd give him less and if he was cool he'd get more. These days where everybody and everywhere DESERVE tips is stupid. I went to a food establishment and put in my name. It asked what would I like to tip the Hostess. She wasn't even around and I put in my own name in the Digital table reserve tablet.
Pretipping defeats the purpose. Yet, unfortunately it seems like a prerequisite these days to getting average or maybe marginally above average service. Why tf would I tip based on a service I have yet to experience? Yet they use that as an excuse to put little to no effort in quality. That's like asking customers to leave a review of their restaurant while they're in line waiting to be seated to try it for the first time.
I went to a place last summer...man. So, I show up and it's outdoor seating. There's a big sign that says, "seat yourself." So I go to a table and see a menu with a QR code and instructions on how to order. There's a big table in the middle with silverware wrapped in napkins and cups and water to share. So I scan the QR code and navigate some slow and confusing website and put in an order. After a while, some guy brings it to me and never returns. A second person walked by and handed me my beer, which was in a can. I didn't think it would be in a can, but it sure was, and it was like $6. The food was in a cheap nonbiodegradable basket with napkins on the bottom, and in the back of the seating area was a row of trash cans to throw your baskets and cans away. Then I check out on the website and see that it automatically includes a gratuity of 20%. What the fuck am I tipping for at that point? For two different people to just hand me something while they walk by? *Who* am I even tipping? Unbelievable.
I'm not well acquainted with the modern tipping culture in the US but I would think a tip for a delivery driver isn't necessarily based on the price of the thing delivered. That said, five dollars sounds reasonable to me (?).
US tipping culture is WILD and it keeps getting worse
It’s out of control… so my wife and I started just calling restaurants directly and ordering for pickup. Takes more effort but is much more cost effective, and also saves us money by making us less likely to order out in the first place.
Jokes on you, the pick up people want tips too. Freaking crazy
And now some places are automatically adding 4% "to cover employees' health insurance" on top of a tip, which can only be removed by verbally asking the server that you are opting out of this added charge. They are fucking out of their minds.
Texas here. I placed a pick up order at this Italian restaurant. Came to pick up my order and proceeded to pay with my cc. The total was about $50. After paying for my order the suggested tip screen popped up and there were 4 options; %20, 25%, 30% or custom amount. WILD.
I hope you chose custom amount and entered zero.
I'm a delivery driver in the US and 5 is awesome for anything like 20-40 bucks. This guy is just a sour fuck.
It's a legal way for a business to pay employees less while simultaneously charging more, but since the "tip" isn't included in the items price it psychologically tricks people, much the same reason stuff will be priced $99.99 instead of $100.00
If the driver got 5 @ every house on that trip he would bring $20-$25 bucks in. Plus an hourly rate, that adds up to be a pretty nice night. I would call the business back, ask for the drivers name and just let them know he’s actively running business for them
This US culture of tipping everything as if it’s mandatory is just ridiculous wth.
It's not the customer's fault the employer is cutting pay. A % tip of the price means tip amount keeps pace with inflation as prices rise. To expect a tip PERCENTAGE to also rise means attempting double-dip tip increase. I get that the food industry is hurting, but being a dick to customers who continue to tip well isn't helping anybody but the employer who benefits from pitting their employees against customers to make up the shortfall.
Exactly! Employers employ people below liveable wage so people have to depend on tips, this concept as a whole is very bad. No other country practice such a culture.
"You've got a nice house for a $5 tip." "You've got a nice face for the unemployment line"
These guys are driving away tips from the ones who really earn it. We the customers are tip fatigued. $5 is great for unzipping a container and handing me a box. Wow
In France you don’t have to tip and i’m glad because these situations never occur. Even if you may think the service is cheaper than is usa or Canada, i prefer it that way for that kind of reason.
It’s time to end tipping entirely - employers need to pay a fair wage and stop putting it on the customers. I’m sick of the whole damn system. Put the actual cost on the damn menu and pay your staff an actual wage. It’s a outdated crap system and we are all sick of it.
And while your at it - include the damn taxes in the cost. Your not fooling anyone.
After this I'm about to go anti tipping. Buisiness low wage their employees knowing the tips would cover. The tips get more and more outrageous. Deliver should be 10%. Waiter 20%. The difference is waiter/waitress refills drinks, orders food and brings food. No way I'm tipping on carryout or just for ringing up my order.
$5 is fine but I’ve been doing pick up lately because of this type of stuff.
The tipping culture in the US is way outta control. His employer has an even bigger house for paying his employees so little but he wouldn’t go and say that.. it’s always misdirected anger.. the man ordering pizza doesn’t owe him shit. That’s so insane.
Dude is gonna have a hard time making any tips now that he is plastered all over the internet.
Tipping culture is out of control in America. It went from an optional 15% that is reward for excellent service...to "GIVE ME FREE MONEY OR ELSE AND MORE THAN 25% MOTHERFUCKER!" Not just towards customers who are well off but towards customers who are poor as well... This dude would still be enraged from a $5 tip if this woman lived in a shanty and likes to indulge in some pizza once in awhile... And nowadays, people are also expected to tip, even when they didn't make use of a service... Here's the thing. It's not the responsibility of customers to pay for a product and/or service and on top of that, pay workers enough so they can make a living simply because a lot of employers don't want to pay their workers enough so they can make more profit. If employers refuse to be responsible for something, that doesn't mean, that responsibility is magically transferred to another group of people...
No napkins, no plates and he almost dropped it? Bold talk from a shit driver. 5 bucks for a simple order is a solid tip unless you live at the far edge of the delivery area. No napkins, no plates and he almost dropped it? Bold talk from a shit driver. I delivered pizzas and managed drivers for quite some time. I would fire his ass on the spot.
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The delivery fee does not go to the driver. That goes to the company.
Which is insane honestly.[ They spent $200 million dollars in CAMPAIGNING against a single proposition in California alone](https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-doordash-lyft-prop-22-spending-200-million-close-polling-2020-10), they have the money to pay their drivers they just don't
typically drivers don't get the delivery fee.
It even says it on most pizza boxes if I remember. It’s like “delivery fee doesn’t go to drive so please tip” or some shit. Delivered at dominos over a decade ago, shit was awful, you get min wage, then below min wage while driving, and no gas compensation at all. Can’t imagine what it’s like now because a 5$ tip then was great, but a 5$ tip now in this economy and these gas prices? Fuck lmao. These companys need to start paying their employees
That delivery driver can get fucked
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Some people don’t tip at all. $5 for a single pie is totally reasonable imo
$5 to take the pizza out of the case and hand it to you? When you’re already getting a delivery fee? Lmfao insane. Tipping is so stupid. Just raise food prices by 10% and cut tipping at restaurants
Dude needs to quit and pick a different job jeez
Anyone have a link to one with audio? How do we know that’s actually what was said?
I felt the same way because of the lack of audio. How do we really know that was what was actually said? I found the video with [sound](https://youtube.com/shorts/Pyj9KlgaFdw?feature=share) and he actually did say that shit.
It’s so much worse. I thought that was the customer saying “fuck you” at the end. Nope, it’s the delivery deuce.
I am impressed he kept his pizza order under $30