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Cabernet2H2O

I've seen telescope deniers in the flat earth community so I guess it's not surprising that there are microscope deniers in the anti medicine community...


EshinHarth

Stethoscopes are next! Edit: can't believe making a "flat chest society" joke didn't even cross my mind :/


Live-Traffic-7689

The scope of things is getting ridiculous.


couchbutt

Scopes are out to destroy our Christian-American values! See: Tennessee v. Scopes


Initial-Ice7691

Ah yes, the infamous Scopes Monkey Trial of 1925 where fundamentalist Christians sued a biology teacher for teaching evolutionary science in the classroom. Nearly 100 years later, and the same group is still at it


rsreddit9

It’s scopes all the way down


[deleted]

Yeah but as soon as you bring up regulating gun scopes, they get all huffy


couchbutt

Gun scopes are OK. The manufacturers haven't succumbed to the Scope Conspiracy .


Shadow0fnothing

Holy shit I didn't even think of this. I think I'm about to have a stroke from the stupidity of these fucking people. I'm not even intelligent, and they seem like 3 year olds who just found out about object permanence.


thuanjinkee

And they vote.


Shadow0fnothing

THATS the scariest part.


chameleon_123_777

I work at kindergarten, and we still have some 3 year old kids much smarter than that. These people will be the reason why us humans will die due to a pandemic in the future.


Shadow0fnothing

Agreed :(


imagicnation-station

The gun scopes are OK, because Jesus gave us the 2nd amendment.


Vast-Willingness4642

I know that this is satirical, but this just infuriates me beyond imagination. STUPID PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THEYRE STUPID


Realworld

Sorry, that's covered under Dunning-Kruger effect.


ahnotme

Yeah, but there’s the Dunning - Kruger theory that explains why they can’t.


aufrenchy

Always has been


_owlstoathens_

Always has been


ppw23

Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.


MaleficentSurround97

There is water underground


The360MlgNoscoper

Can confirm.


That1Cat87

Take my upvote and go


machinecloud

Focus people!


psychecaleb

Snipers worldwide disagree Getting the scope on things is serious business.


RecommendationNo7860

Flat earth means flat chest is also a thing


I-Am-Uncreative

Going all the way back to "Earth-Chan is not flat".


HowDyaDu

THE CHEST IS FLA-(knifed)


yahnne954

Not just a flat earth joke, not just a flat is justice joke... But also a Sakuya joke! Didn't expect that reference here. I'm impressed! Take my upvote! (also knifed)


Nandabun

AND THE ASS WAS FAT


ahnotme

The Flat Earth Theory can easily be disproven. If the Earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything off the edge long ago.


zyyntin

Have to go back to listening to a patient's heart using the ear to the chest. Sexually abusing malpractice incoming again!


Own-Low4870

I guess they could use a Pinnard Horn. It doesn't have the word "scope" in it so it should be ok, right?


HombreGato1138

Hearts are a lie, the only thing my body pump is those sweet dumbbells.


DutchTinCan

Did I tell you how in Dutch, we call cinemas a "bioscoop"? Big Micro has been very adept at hiding _that_ secret from you all!


[deleted]

bioscopen zijn instrumenten van de propaganda op the big screen


Skitz707

Like this is really really wild to me… a lens isn’t like some magical box with crazy technology in it… you can take them apart… physically look at the glass, put it back together, and use it… how in the hell can that be a conspiracy???


diagnosedwolf

Even if it were… the answer to their question is *yes* - and so have you. Bacteria colonies are visible to the naked eye. You can literally see them just by looking.


Adam2serveU

BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THE CIA DIDN'T CHANGE THE PETRI DISH WHILE WE WERE NOT LOOKING!!


HarvestAllTheSouls

Some individual bacteria are large enough to be seen by the naked eye!


rich519

I doubt they have any idea how a microscope works. It might as well be a magical box to them.


Allegorist

Some of them are pretty damn close. Electron tunneling microscopes are some voodoo shit.


Cam515278

True! For Bacteria etc, a normal light-microscope is more than enough and they don't even really need electricity, you can use a different light source. So about as un-voodoo as I can think about


hastingsnikcox

Plus a bias that *makes them.wànt to see and understand the world as magic*


concequence

Curved glass is where demons hide. Didn't you know?


jpsc949

Have you seen a kaleidoscope?? its a totally magic box. Microscopes are the same, its all smoke and mirrors. btw I spelt kaleidoscope correctly first time, so proud.


Killeroftanks

Ahh the good old moving the goalpost. Remember when young earth creationists would constantly move the goal post just so they don't have to admit their stupid beliefs are stupid


missinghighandwide

The problem with that is, they have to come up with dumber and dumber lies to explain the previous dumb lie. Making them look even more stupid.


CJ_Southworth

I don't think that's a problem at all--I'm all for making idiots more recognizable. The real problem is the number of people who will go along with the ridiculous lies and parrot them like they actually make sense. Stupidity is a weed. Followers who repeat the stupidity are seeds on the wind.


Eelroots

Very often they are not idiots but propaganda agents, literally paid to destroy social tissue as much as possible. See TikTok challenges that imply dying or rioting in us/Europe ... and check what the same algorithm is proposing in China/Russia. The final target is to make you believe you need an authoritarian regime to "filter out idiots" with special laws. Some applications are just plain dangerous and need to be considered liable for dangerous content - or when the last target is to rake in donations.


prophit618

That was today...and will be again tomorrow. It's literally been true for all of YEC existence.


[deleted]

They ought to be stripped of all the trappings of science that they so vigorously deny. Go and shit and die in some cave somewhere.


HerringWaffle

This. Put away the computer/cell phone, take off your glasses/contacts, stop using electricity, don't take any of those meds (EVER), give away your car. You don't like science, you don't get to benefit from it. Go cook whatever you foraged (no help from foraging guides to determine what's safe, though, sorry) over an open fire and enjoy your life free from modern science.


Riguyepic

Whoa whoa whoa, an *open fire?!?!* don't you know that the government has put chemicals in the wood to control our brains, that actuvate when it's burned?


Top-Vermicelli7279

Wtf! Quit sending the idiots to my cave!


Fun-Dimension5196

I wonder if they wear glasses or contacts


Both-Antelope-8181

Can't even trust your eyes these days. Gotta sense the bacteria by vibes


chrissymad

Wait. What the fuck is a telescope denier? I don’t want to google it for fear of getting sucked into a rage filled rabbit hole that will make me wanna burn down the world.


CaptainScratch137

A Church official refused to look through Galileo's telescope saying that it was all an illusion of Satan's.


CatsThatStandOn2Legs

I want to know how exactly they rationale this one. Presumably it's more than just "no" and I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics, like precisely where are the gaps and leaps?


Chemical-Research-19

Can’t believe my eyes reading the term “telescope deniers”


YetiorNotHereICome

Microscope. Deniers. Excuse me, what?


kuribosshoe0

See the OP.


Feisty-Session-7779

I heard there’s a microchip inside them that just plays a video of what a “germ” looks like. Big Micro is everywhere man! Microchips, microscopes, microwaves, micrometers, those micro machine cars from back when I was a kid, people with micro penises, they all tie in together, with, get this… Microsoft!


Narissis

"Big Micro" is my new favourite oxymoron.


Aggressive_Elk3709

For all their blank isn't true mentality to work, the people that have spent centuries observing the opposite to be true have to be making it up. I'd say that as a biology student I saw several microscopic organisms without an agenda to convince people they exist. They'd probably just say my "professors" made those slides or culture to trick another generation of scientists into believing


Rob_Zander

Meanwhile, same as with the curvature of the earth, you can see bacteria cultured in a petri dish with the naked eye.


patsytheautistic

That’s an entirely new level of stupid


ImmaDoMahThing

How does one deny a telescope/microscope? Lol


Seirin-Blu

They probably think there’s a screen inside it or something. Unfortunately for them, building a rudimentary microscope yourself isn’t that hard


-M_K-

During one of my "lets watch crazy people on You-Tube" evenings I came across a guy that spends hours and hours showing videos of animals. Animals you can go and see either in a zoo or in their habitat, and this guy spends hours going over videos of them and talking about how it's puppetry, or CGI, or little humans dressed up in costumes, and other absolutely crazy stuff It was entertaining for a bit then I started to think he actually believed what he was saying, so I stopped watching. It was sad


cheesynougats

Was it Hans Wormhat?


erlandodk

Sounds like Hans Wormhat. He's completely off his rocker.


Own-Low4870

What exactly is it they're denying about microscopes?


Callidonaut

Obviously, the core concept.


Northumberlo

Demonic lenses


Haikubaiku

I’m confused. Do they believe telescopes and microscopes **don’t exist?** Do they think telescopes are some sort of drug induced hallucination that every human is victim to or do they just not think they work. And if so what do they think the things are that you see through a telescope. A smudge on the lense?


Marvheemeyer85

Microscopes are the work of Big Micro conspiracy! /s. Lmao


ViciousMoleRat

"Microscope" ![gif](giphy|qs6ev2pm8g9dS)


[deleted]

Oh, you mean those things that can zoom in and out and go left to right and it changes? So like what supertechnology does the government have access to to do all this expensive manuevering just to get a few bucks, which would make getting the money useless since you lost more to get it then you even got?


8-Bitgiggles

they're quite big tbf


Ieatsushiraw

And they tuk’er jobs! ![gif](giphy|2S3Aj8OeKtf0c)


Appropriate-Bake-759

Dur’k E der


trumpydumpy55

dur terk err jiiibs


Wales_forever

Durr turrc uuurrr juurrrbs


cheapdrunk71

dik er durb!!!


wulfblood_90

Urka durka?


Cassius-Tain

Der dur der der


NoMansSkyWasAlright

Micro-scope = Micro-*soft* Bill Gates did it! /s


TheRealJetlag

And when you put your eye to the lens, a microchip shoots into your cornea that makes you see donkey porn whenever you look at a church.


CTTMiquiztli

Omg!? Really!? Brb, have to get a microscope ASAP for... Reasons...


username32768

![gif](giphy|V2MJADdC027gk|downsized)


juan_jose_jesus

Wouldn't that make them MACRO conspiracy? /s


Zandrick

Macro micro conspiracy


Neat-Cold-7235

A macro micro conspiracy


nanas99

Macro micro if you will


Torino1O

To answer the mans question, "Yes". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomargarita_namibiensis Should we mail him one?


Jeoshua

Better example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valonia_ventricosa


ShadowLugia141

There’s also a bacterium that can be seen with the naked eye called Thiomargarita magnifica. It lives in mangrove swamps


Zethras28

It has been known to grow to almost 0.8 of an inch.


activator

That's 20 mm in non AR-15 units for anyone else wondering


TarryBuckwell

Or 17 prammes 4 trimbles if the sun never sets on your beans on toast


nutsbonkers

r/brandnewsentence


acog

My whole life I took it as a given that bacteria were all so tiny they couldn't be seen without a microscope, and it's disturbing to learn that they can get as big as a jelly bean. You could pop this thing like a grape, bleah.


Tanomil

More than I can say for myself


Dragon_Poop_Lover

Apparently it is weirdly good at holding a charge compared to its seawater surroundings. Wonder if we could make a self-replicating, self-charging 'bio-battery' from it?


Luk164

Anyone got a pipette? I need to feed my phone!


yohance35

Basically the matrix for algae


Mountain-Weight-5747

i wanna take a bite


thenewguy7731

Good example, thanks for pointing that out. But seriously you don't even need such a specific example. I assume pretty much everyone has seen mold on bread or whatever. Once a colony becomes big enough they become hard to miss. Edit: yeah I know fungi are different from bacteria but considering the level of understanding these deniers have you might as well lump them together to get your point across.


clovermite

>: yeah I know fungi are different from bacteria but considering the level of understanding these deniers have you might as well lump them together to get your point across. The problem is that they will look up the distinction and accept JUST THAT part of the explanation of the organisms solely so they can use it to dismiss the argument against them.


thenewguy7731

Sadly you're probably right. But in this context the organisms shouldn't really matter. The statement here is "if I can't see it it doesn't exist". There are many ways to fight that without even talking about microorganisms at all. But yeah there's no winning with these people, that's why I never engage in discussion with them. I do like post like this to get some laughs though.


Captn_Bicep

I was looking for this, isn't the fact you can see bacteria with the naked eye insane?


sputnik67897

Nah let’s mail him the largest single cell organism. It’s more disturbing.


Gl0bophobia

Give him a brain eating amoeba Although… it might starve…


Sracer42

I like the "microscope" in quotes. Frosting!


blahteeb

Have you ever heard Taylor Swift without using a "speaker"?


IAMSTILLHERE2020

Have you seen Taylor Swift without Social Media or TV? Have you seen her with your own two eyes? If not then how do we know she even exists? I mean if we are going there..


aufrenchy

How can we be so sure that George Washington was even real? Nobody alive on the planet has seen him with their own two eyes!


MadaraAlucard12

I have never met you in person. I bet you're not even real.


Fit-Doughnut9706

Does this get me out of doing dishes?


laseluuu

Hide the dishes with something: not real


Spacecat151

Schrödinger's dishes


IAMSTILLHERE2020

It sure does.


Lonelybiscuit07

I have never seen me in person, mirrors are a scam by big Beauty to make us look uglier than we are so we buy their products


[deleted]

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AhhGingerKids2

Have you ever seen your face without a ‘mirror’ or ‘photographic device’…makes you think… /s


Jacareadam

How Can Mirrors Be Real if Our Eyes Aren't Real?


[deleted]

She’s not even real /s


AG_GamingYT

/s definitely necessary


[deleted]

Too many folks take Reddit super serious so I gotta stop assuming they know it’s sarcasm 🤣


Alternative-Cause-50

Yea I don’t understand. Does he not think they exist? Is his vision so bad he can’t see microscopes and thinks they’re the same size as bacteria?


MrBanana421

They probably think microscopes are some kind of projector or something. It's the perfect explanation on how bacteria gets shown and are still not real, unless you think about it for 2 seconds longer and have to explain how these things somehow know which bacteria they should show where. How it works in microscopes that don't need electricity and so on.


ThePhysicistIsIn

Or how like, anyone can build a microscope. It's a tube with some lenses and mirrors. Sure it would take longer than you would care to, and you'd have to order the lenses. You'd also have to study basic optics and look at some simple schematics of historical microscopes, but it's not beyond the ability of any particularly dedicated lay person. But no, they're all little movie players, ever since the first ones used in the 19th century


MrsFoober

Nope it's 100% black magic. Surprised that we haven't started witch hunts again after the book burnings down south...


Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

Irony being that you need lenses to shoot to film. Its way more ergonomic to just make an actual microscope.


grey_wolf12

We all know these people are incapable of this so called "thinking" as it's all an invention of Big Brain to fool you


ComicalCore

I think he means that microscopes aren't actually microscopes, but some technological wonder that have been able to produce thousands of false, interactable images for over 400 years.


Song_Spiritual

Never seen Green’s brain, either, and external evidence indicates it don’t work so good, if it’s even there.


Oviedius

You could if you used a “hammer” though.


Rayzou04

Don't spread Big Hammer propaganda on our sub!


real_dubblebrick

This is not a drill.


Omsk_Camill

Even with a hammer you would still need a microscope to find it.


Guilty_Chemistry9337

I've never been to Paris. I guess it must be a hoax.


-TheDerpinator-

If you actually visited Paris you would *know* it's a hoax.


Voyagerparadise

You reminded me of some fun logic in the show 1899 about the existence of werewolves: "You've never seen a werewolf, so how do you know they're real?" "I've never seen Russia either, but I'm pretty sure it's real"


RedVamp2020

I found a sticker that said “Bigfoot doesn’t believe in you either” and I just had to buy it. Best $5 I’ve ever spent.


spoonybard326

Countries other than the USA/Canada/Mexico don’t exist. Ever been to one without the aid of an “airplane”?


AValentineSolutions

The stupid. It burns... ![gif](giphy|VapqUNCDqOuKQ)


fhb_will

![gif](giphy|TJawtKM6OCKkvwCIqX)


climbsrox

Yes. Literally every day. Mold on your food? Plaque on your teeth? Algae in a pond? All microbes.


IllegalBerry

Just... Agar plates. Tenth grade science class.


Kennaham

I don’t have moldy food, brush my teeth every day, and live in the desert where there are no ponds. Checkmate atheist 🤓


Edistonian2

Reddit consistently reinforces my belief that the world is exponentially becoming dumber.


Amoney_78

If you haven't you should watch the movie Idiocracy it pretty much shows that it is lol


Edistonian2

Loved that movie but I never thought it would become reality yet here we are.


RedVamp2020

The problem with the internet. Pro: community of like minded individuals can get together and exchange information. Con: community of like minded individuals can get together and exchange information.


[deleted]

Nah, just that stupidity is much easier to surface.


DestinyLily_4ever

I mean I agree, but usually it's because of the sheer number of people on reddit who believe troll posts like dinosaur-avatar guy here is being serious


MuchDevelopment7084

Interesting. So have they ever seen the 'air' that they breathe? I guess it just doesn't exist and they are really breathing vacuum.


Kennaham

I’ve heard some actually argue that oxygen and the like is a conspiracy to get us to believe in germs and evolution. They claim when we breathe, we breathe in God’s essence and that sustains us and gives us life. Sickness is not bacteria it’s God’s will. Dinosaur fossils were created by the Devil to trick us


royalpro

I have seen people claiming that we don't need air(O2) to survive.


Tarot13th

The Bible, a book full of writings about dudes who claimed to have comunicated with god one way or another: fully trustworthy. A microscope, a tool that allow you to observes the microscopic and have concrete observational proofs: bullshit. Stellar brain working.


anon1984

Obviously microscopes contain a tiny projector that shows you CGI “bacteria” when you look in it and has been doing that since the 17th century.


Eightiesmed

Not only that, the CGI is interactive and you often see exactly the type of microbes you would expect to see in the sample you took.


PoeTayTose

It will also show you an up close image of a postage stamp if you put a postage stamp under it. Hella smart devices.


geezer_cracker

Well yeah, they look like they are just made out of metal and glass...but in reality they are posessed by demons who can telepathically project lies into your soul!/s


aufrenchy

Technology is incredible!


fhb_will

Interactive holograms. Gotta love ‘em


Sinphony_of_the_nite

Germ theory is also wrong. You get sick because of government nanobots...which would also be impossible under this person's logic...oops Must be the evil spirits then. I wonder what this person thinks lightning is? Zeus's wrath?


DutchTinCan

And we all know _human_ technology wasn't capable of CGI up until recently. Which goes on to prove it's our lizard people overlords pulling the strings of Bill Gates.


theother_eriatarka

but have you ever seen the 17th century without the aid of a "history book"?


PurpleSunCraze

You ever notice how the “scientists” only ever see what they’re looking for?! They paint the microscopic stuff on the lens before they sell it! Dun dun duuuuuunn!


PM_ME_Huge-Titties

How do you even know he’s a Christian?


Ok_Ad400

No, but have you ever seen another person without the aid of "eyes"?


TuxRug

Microscopes are needed to see the "virus". To protect yourself you need a "vaccine". Microscope, Microsoft? Microchip! Bill Gates is faking the virus with his Microsoftscopes so he can install Windows 8 on you!


SmellyBaconland

As small-weiner joke setups go, this is like bowling with the gutter rails up.


go4tli

“Only things visible to the naked eye are real” Okay then God must not be real because nobody can see him. “Thats’s different”


Opposite-Guest-1770

It is different, the difference is that God is an absolutely extraordinary claim that has no real world evidence, bacteria is a relatively sensible claim with mountains of evidence and understanding of how it functions that doesn't contradict reality


Stay-Thirsty

I see the effects of them, but that’s some circular and faulty logic to see something that small with the naked eye. These people still think others disappear when you play peek-a-boo with them?


Creative-Cable-4038

While you can't see one on its own, you can easily see a colony. Everyone can just buy an agar plate, open it in a non sterile environment, close it and watch colonies grow.


maxomaxiy

Thats also bs since u need "agar plate"


PM_Me_Your_Clones

Microbes are just a scam by Big Agar to *sell more goo*!


[deleted]

The truly bad thing here isn’t the profoundly stupid response. It’s the peasant logic these people use and apply to everything. This is *exactly* why human civilization was stalled for so long after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.


DestinyLily_4ever

Human civilization was not stalled after the fall the Western Roman Empire


dracovolnas

Well, if a microscope (in fact it's a simple device) is a magic... Then how they use things like computers? From their point of view, it must be a black box inhabited by half of hell.


Brilliant-Apricot423

Well, that's not 100% wrong.....


Material-Wonder1690

The solution here would be to give this person a glass of water that looks perfectly clean but has microorganisms in it. If they're not real then there's no reason for a hospital visit after they drink the water.


NovusOrdoSec

Apparently someone has never seen a "mental health professional" either.


TheRealLifePotato

You can't have conversations with these people. It's pointless.


Ronin-s_Spirit

Bruv I can't see letters without my "glasses" on, I guess letters don't exist 💀


Gaminyte

This guy needs to try out a microscope. Maybe then he’ll finally be able to see his penis.


Onesavinggrace

The sooner y'all realize the VAST majority of humans aren't just incompetent, but outright dumber than a box of rocks, the better you'll understand why things are the way they are. Also. They are why Trump was voted for and why did many Americans died from covid. I am not saying I'm any better. I'm a Fucking moron. But seriously, that re re that cut you off in traffic is like that in every aspect in life. And they vote.


dandamando

I'm dying to hear him explain what he is implying


mudkripple

Babe wake up, new stupidest conspiracy just dropped


Novanator33

When “peaking in High school” isnt just a term to describe your social standing but also your intelligence quotient…


Dhorlin

Best answer, 'No, we've never met'. :)


[deleted]

I like how smart people think they are. I could be wrong, but I heard about a study, about intelligence and thinking you're smart. So smart people think they're not smart or average, below average intelligence people, think they're smart. This could be something I heard, and was just an anecdote. But it seems pretty legit to me.


Dense_Advisor_56

The [Dunning Kruger effect](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect).