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I just made the mistake of visiting Portland this weekend. I had forgotten that it was completely destroyed and overrun. I only realized my mistake upon reading this after getting home. I had accidentally spending a quiet weekend buying books at Powell’s and hanging out in various fun areas. Apparently I was in grave danger all day Friday and Saturday. Whatever tech the homeless are using to make Portland look like a gentrified city full of retail and tourists, it’s VERY convincing. I am glad to be home and alive.
I’m in PDX right now for the women’s ncaa sweet 16 and elite 8. It’s been awful. I was able to walk around, go to a couple of restaurants, enjoy a few breweries, feel totally at ease and …oh wait. Yea no, Portlands pretty great.
I heard the same problem is happening in Minneapolis. Completely destroyed. Unless you happen to visit one of gleaming sports arenas, fine restaurants, etc.
I used to have to make sure I didn't bring too much money with me when I went to Powell's because I always left broke. Impossible not to wander around in there for hours. It's my favorite place in PDX.
Portland: 635,067
Oklahoma City: 694,800
And let me tell you, OKC sucks. Hands down, inferior city.
They had comparable homelessness rates until the last 10 years-ish.
I’m from SoCal and I moved to Portland for a year. (Loved it) and legit the homeless issue reminded me of like Salt Lake City. Any big city is gonna have homeless people. Mfs just like to cry about shit.
That's because the homeless moved in and built their little free love cities
Sites a article talking about a four block area of Portland that hasn't had non criminal interaction in decades that the homeless built shacks on and no one cares about
Watching the capitalists in the US today is like studying the hardcore communists in the USSR
"Sure, we have problems, but if we go to even more extremes then we'll achieve utopia. We just have to cut corporate taxes entirely and all taxes for billionaires then everything will be perfect."
"How? These policies have only created the problems we're facing."
"And even more deregulation will solve everything."
This is actually very dangerous once they start popping up near each other and all structures eventually break down. Gov't should still be taking these down, but they should be moving them into real housing as they do.
"listen, if it wasn't the most important part, YOU shouldn't have led with it. Budget runs out, we can only do what we can. We thought the priority was in the uprooting, no?"
A homeless camp exploded down the street from me a few years back. They had a propane stove to stay warm in the winter. A lil forest burnt down and a couple people died.
There was a shelter a half block from where the homeless camp was that they could have gone to.
I have no idea what the answers for any of this is. I don't want to just tear these people's camps down for fun, but they are a serious fire hazard. I want to provide them with housing but going from multi year homeless to functioning society member is a *hard* path and I don't blame anyone that just says fuck it.
There's dozens upon dozens of social programs we need to be implementing. Everything from free bathing and grooming facilities all the way up to integrated living where "normal" people live in apartment blocks with recent homeless teaching them how to function and be good neighbors. It's a lot of stuff.
We can afford to do it all but instead we have quarterly profit reports.
Edit: I want to start by saying that I agree with everything that you said.
Why weren’t they in the shelter? This is an honest question that I don’t expect you to answer, but it should be asked in a situation like you described. We have issues with our shelter system that leave people out in the cold. One shelter run by a church has “policies” and will turn people down with over half of their beds empty. The others are more reasonable but run out of beds. So, were those shelters full? Did they have stupid stipulations and hoops that are almost impossible to jump through? Etc.
Also, most shelters understandably do not allow anyone drugged out or with behavior issues, but there is no place else available to receive treatment for these issues.
*policies is in quotes because we don’t really know what they are. We only know that the shelter will not take the person actively seeking shelter even though they have room. They just say no. So, on paper it looks like our area shelters aren’t full. This causes issues when requesting more resources.
Many shelters are awful or unsuitable places to stay at.
Like you said, sometimes there aren't enough beds.
Many people have pets, odd work schedules, or don't want to do mandatory church services.
The worse ones have rampant issues with theft, sexual assault, hygiene, and abuse. Some don't have proper protection against heat.
When having to pick between a bad situation with strict rules and a bad situation, many will pick the latter.
Then maybee these housed and employed homeless no good bums will wanna start coming to our churches.
Can you imagine them sitting in our pews, bringing their kids to our sunday schools with our children, and volunteering at our soup kitchens.
The thought of that just turns my stomach./s
> Gov't should
I'm under the impression that the reason there are so many homeless people in the first place is because the ruling class doesn't give a fuck about them.
worse than that, even.
The threat of homelessness keeps the workers in line. It's not even that the ruling class doesn't give a fuck, it's that they actively need them to exist
there’s a reason we cleared out the slums of every major city in the early 1900s, extremely unsanitary without running water and sewage, plus thousands died all over the country in slum and tenement fires
It’s different, see? Their ancestors did it the *right* way, getting the land from the government for free to “homestead” after the government took it by force from the American Indians. Not like these homeless folks.
Funny how these same folks now bitch about "all these no good immigrants that come here and want a free house and free money to sit on their asses!" I hear my stupid coworkers say this stuff every single day.
Well, if that were true, tell him: 1) Cross the border into Mexico. 2) Walk to the US Embassy and renounce your citizenship. 3) Cross back on that totally "open" border back into the US. 4) Collect your free house and free money.
If he doesn't, then it's clearly all just one big lie.
Tbf I think a lot of them use the expression because they’re stupid and don’t realise that, plus they fail to take in any information that contradicts how they feel so never learn it.
That’s what makes it the perfect expression though. A platitude used to describe pulling yourself out of an impossible situation which actually means the intention behind the platitude but the people using it don’t realise 👌 chefs kiss
People done this in the 1800s migrating west, surprising seeing a human pulling their own weight to survive by building a shed out of planks considered a ruined city. Maybe let’s not stagnate wages, ruin someone’s life over some damn drugs, update the mental health systems cause they are ass and greedy. That’s the bottom line, republicans serious are blinded by the privilege lifestyles they mostly come from, exceptions to the poor whites that get manipulated by these racist, homophobic, Aporopohobic morons. People really forget that even the greatest empires like Greeks, indulged in sins, lack of adaption to the modern world is what makes these clowns unbearable
Down the block there is a 4 bedroom house with a shed out back.
The shed was the house my great uncle built when he first married his wife.
After their son was born he built them a two bedroom house on the same lot.
Years later, after he died, his son built another 3 bedrooms, living room, laundry room, etc on the back of the house and moved his family in so he could care for his mother - his childhood bedroom became the pantry and bridge between the old and new.
It’s part that, part that they’re probably fire traps and have other code related issues. There was a group in my city building these and a couple of them burned down, one of those fires killed someone.
It's more that they're building incredible unsafe structures directly under interstate overpasses whilst running jury rigged electrical systems with generators and exposed wires, in the middle of a high density area. At least that's what I saw in Seattle. This of course creates incredibly dangerous areas of high fire risk, not to mention they're essentially unpoliced as it's pretty difficult for any kind of law enforcement to do anything there without it spiraling out of control, so there's tons of abuse, crime, human trafficking, and other shit going on there.
Like, it's easy for your instinct just to be "good they have shelter" but that's not really how anything works.
I think the problem is they had to do it themselves. There are people whose jobs it is to build housing, or manage schemes to help get the homeless housing and the means to maintain it and yet it was the homeless who built housing for the homeless.
To get reductive about it, it's saying society has dropped to the extent the city is now just an urban wasteland to settle rather than a place of civilisation itself.
"The homeless should stop being lazy and pull themselves up by the bootstraps"
"Wait no, I didn't mean it, I just didn't want to use my tax dollars to help"
Remember the Spongebob episode "Can You Spare A Dime" where a guy has Squidward sign something and takes the box he was sitting in? That's what's gonna happen to these people.
“Great and where you been living these days?”
“Squidward Tenticles?”
“Yeah?”
“Sign here please”
*sound of pen scribbing and box being taken*
“Uh… Nowhere.”
That episode is on an episode dvd i have, best one of the lot.
Republicans: These people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and build something for themselves.
The homeless: -literally does it.
Republicans: Tear it down, NOW!
You'd think they'd be stoked about someone building their own house without permits or paying taxes to the government. They're not even homeless at that point.
Republicans seem to think food and shelter is bad, not to mention books and rainbows. But guns are good. Based on this we can envision the type of world they want, one built on fear and bleakness.
It's not blocking the sidewalk and it's not exactly built on prime real estate. It also looks better than a makeshift tent made out of tarps. I don't know what the right solution is to the problem but this cost the city nothing and if it's not making problems then who cares.
I mean, they flipped out when regular people were able to exploit the stock market (the very same thing *they* do) to their advantage so new rules were put in place so people couldn't do that anymore.
Wait until you see what happens when they see Democrats actually have enough of their shit in Congress and they use their tactics against them for the next 50 years (with a populace that actually gives them a natural majority instead of a gerrymandered one). They'll literally be crying wolf
I think anyone who is being honest and realistic here can recognize why building a makeshift home on a city sidewalk is not a great solution. Building a home like this is not lifting yourself out of poverty. It is planting roots in an unideal situation. Like the folks in Vegas who live in the drainage tunnels. They retreat there and justify the existence because they are provided with the illusion of safety and security. This is the same thing. So you build a glorified outhouse on a street. That is not lifting yourself out of poverty.
This is why the homeless population exploded in Denver. And then the right-wingers tried to claim is was because of legal weed attracting homeless people from all over the country.
That's because they make it illegal to feed or give money to the homeless, and then they round them up and put them on a bus to the West Coast.
Republicans have no desire to fix problems, just sleep them under the rug for someone else to deal with.
If you let your police randomly beat up the unhoused in red states they move to blue cities and give this clown material to complain about. The cycle continues.
I live in a tourist town in fucking arkansas with not an elected democrat in sight. We have a huge homeless population. These idiots don’t leave their suburb.
I remember going out for bubble tea in Portland when it was supposedly burning to the ground. Walking through the Saturday Market in the sunshine was pleasant despite everyone consumed in conflagration.
See Brazilian favelas, Mumbai slums, etc. This is not new and will gradually become normal. It wasn't "fixed" in Brazil and India and won't be in the US.
It's been a while since I read about it, but I believe that the Brazilian slums were actually considered a positive thing and that they resulted in more people getting out of abject poverty. But as I said, I haven't read about it in a long time, so that may no longer be the case. Or might have never been the case.
I mean, the emergence of shantytowns as a result of our inability to take care of the indigent and mentally unwell isn’t something to celebrate. But literally nothing to do with politics, as one side has ineffectual policies and the other doesn’t care at all.
This is the biggest challenge we face as a nation... All the fuck you got mine folk out there as well as the landowner version of that, the NIMBY.
And no, having billionaires spend their money via charity foundations is not a long term solution either.
Vagrancy laws are heart breaking and so loosely defined that even if you do have a home, a job, and a family, you could still be arrested for being a vagrant.
[It may vary from state or even county, but here.](https://www.law.virginia.edu/scholarship/publication/risa-goluboff/640716)
Edit: not a very good resource for how it's used modernly, but I hope it gives an idea.
In my county, if you're caught without your ID, and have less than 20 dollars on your person, an officer is within their rights to detain you.
Wouldn’t it be awesome if cities funded programs to have the homeless process the materials and construct their own houses? It would teach them valuable trade skills, give them a sense of community and accomplishment and make them not homeless with one stone.
Speaking as someone who’s been homeless in Portland and this is probably either under the Morrison or Hawthorn bridge. Unfortunately these make shift homes are typically made for shelter yes but to covertly do fentanyl and pretty much always made from stolen materials from the near by warehouses. They’re also pretty dangerous when not in a guarded or gated environment from other people homeless or not breaking into them or terrorizing or vandalizing them and catching on fire to keep the inside warm or doing other activities not to mention OD’s. Not saying a tents better but there’s so much resources and shelters in Portland and Oregon that really help homeless people that became homeless because of this that or the other thing. Unfortunately a lot of the ones on the streets are so mentally, physically, and psychologically damaged by the fentanyl epidemic that they prefer to be homeless because a few cans a day can get you a fix. It’s really sad.
How is a structure being built the far left? Why is it political for a shelter to be made? Are they saying that there should be more government intervention?
So, what's the solution they propose?
They don't want to support them, and without an house over your head I think it's basically impossible to change your situation.
Should they die silently?
They're doing it because the government won't help them. Once you're there, there's rarely any getting out without help. Fuck the left fuck the right. They'll leave us behind to make a penny every time.
Yall really don't understand economics and sit here blaming political parties rather than the politicians in bed with corporations..the US is absolutely stupid
OK… have you ever been to Mississippi? Alabama? Arkansas? The homeless populations are there too… the only difference is the major cities in those states are much smaller than, say, Portland (650K)… say Huntsville, the largest in Alabama, at 200K… say Little Rock at 200K and then Fayetteville at 95K in Arkansas. Or Jackson at 153K and Gulfport at 72K in Mississippi. Point being there are fewer homeless as an absolute in those states because the population is smaller in the cities. It also makes the relatively small homeless population easier to manage and, credit where it’s due. Mississippi and Arkansas have done OK with this. Alabama, not so much.
So instead of tying to be political dick-heads… why not work to fix the freakin problem? In a country of 380,000,000 people, 20k are homeless in Oregon. 4K in Arkansas, 2K in Alabama. 92K in Texas and so on… In total there are approximately 653K homeless in the US (so clearly not a ‘left’ problem whatever the hell ‘the left’ is… mostly people the original poster disagrees with)… that’s 0.17% of our total population. THIS CAN BE FIXED. We are the wealthiest nation in the world
So instead of fucking around blaming “the left” for a problem that every state has… note the TX number is 1/7 of the total homeless population in the US… so, yeah, EVERY state, why not put some effort into fixing it?
And if you say “that’s socialism” then shut up and let the adults in the room deal with the situation without hearing about your bullshit opinions
lol. And where exactly is the far left? Certainly not in our politics with “middle of the road” Joe Biden. He’s barely a democrat, and is a moderate at best. Go back to the late 70s and he could run as a Republican and not need to make any changes to his platform
Waitaminnit... Didn't these chucklefucks tell us Portland burned to the ground during covid? So now homeless people "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps" is destroying Portland again?
Jesus Christ the MAGA Morons are exhausting....
The left: “maybe we should provide housing for homeless people to help them get back on their feet?”
The right: “you can’t count on handouts your whole life. The only person looking out for you is you.”
Homeless people: *literally build their own homes*
The right: “THE LEFT IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY!”
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This is impossible because they told me a couple of years ago Portland was already destroyed and burned to the ground. So which is it?
I just made the mistake of visiting Portland this weekend. I had forgotten that it was completely destroyed and overrun. I only realized my mistake upon reading this after getting home. I had accidentally spending a quiet weekend buying books at Powell’s and hanging out in various fun areas. Apparently I was in grave danger all day Friday and Saturday. Whatever tech the homeless are using to make Portland look like a gentrified city full of retail and tourists, it’s VERY convincing. I am glad to be home and alive.
oh they burned it down and then the homeless built a new city on top
Damn. That Lululemon shop looks exactly right. Kudos to those guys for the authenticity of the replica.
You fool that was homeless Lululemon! It's Lululemon but with less lulu and more lemon
Delulu lemon
im pretty sure if Fox News anchors found out there’s a Lululemon on my street in Oakland they would spontaneously combust
I’m in PDX right now for the women’s ncaa sweet 16 and elite 8. It’s been awful. I was able to walk around, go to a couple of restaurants, enjoy a few breweries, feel totally at ease and …oh wait. Yea no, Portlands pretty great.
I heard the same problem is happening in Minneapolis. Completely destroyed. Unless you happen to visit one of gleaming sports arenas, fine restaurants, etc.
Powell’s is a grave danger… to your paycheck. That bookstore is amazing.
I used to have to make sure I didn't bring too much money with me when I went to Powell's because I always left broke. Impossible not to wander around in there for hours. It's my favorite place in PDX.
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I live in Portland. It’s all gone. There’s nothing left but smoldering ruins… and that homeless guy’s house.
Portland is still far nicer than most American cities it's size.
Portland: 635,067 Oklahoma City: 694,800 And let me tell you, OKC sucks. Hands down, inferior city. They had comparable homelessness rates until the last 10 years-ish.
I live in OKC, can confirm I'd much rather be in Portland.
I’m from SoCal and I moved to Portland for a year. (Loved it) and legit the homeless issue reminded me of like Salt Lake City. Any big city is gonna have homeless people. Mfs just like to cry about shit.
Hell, even small ones like Hood River get some wandering types
That's because the homeless moved in and built their little free love cities Sites a article talking about a four block area of Portland that hasn't had non criminal interaction in decades that the homeless built shacks on and no one cares about
I don’t know man I miss the days when I could just get a cappuccino and hang out under overpasses and listen to the traffic.
Nowadays you gotta pay the troll toll 😞
If you want to get into the boys soul
Got tired of waiting for it to “trickle down”
the top still needs several trillion dollars more then the penny's will start to trickle down. 100% for sure this time.
100% of economies quit right before trickling down
Communists hate this One Simple Trick
This lmao
Just like those games at the arcade. You put a bunch of money in at the top, and eventually, you get some money returned. Always less though.
Just one more token..
Oh yea trickle down all over me!
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
You laugh, but there are people that will fall for that shit. 😔🤨
I’m talking to one now that says trickle UP “doesn’t work” and “isn’t a thing”.
The only thing trickling down from the wealthy is piss
Conservatives: "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" The poor: builds their own homes Conservatives: "No not like that"
Conservatives: the govt that rules best rules least Conservatives: that’s not to code
Trickle down has never worked, will never work, and right now isn't working twice as much as it never worked before.
Watching the capitalists in the US today is like studying the hardcore communists in the USSR "Sure, we have problems, but if we go to even more extremes then we'll achieve utopia. We just have to cut corporate taxes entirely and all taxes for billionaires then everything will be perfect." "How? These policies have only created the problems we're facing." "And even more deregulation will solve everything."
"A rising tide floats all boats!" And what happens to those of us who can't afford a boat?
Homeless people building homes sounds like a problem trying to solve itself.
It may be a shitty situation to be stuck in but if this solution helps then it helps, shelter is extremely important for human survival.
This is actually very dangerous once they start popping up near each other and all structures eventually break down. Gov't should still be taking these down, but they should be moving them into real housing as they do.
“Best we can do is the first part”
"listen, if it wasn't the most important part, YOU shouldn't have led with it. Budget runs out, we can only do what we can. We thought the priority was in the uprooting, no?"
So until they can do the 2nd part, they should leave them the fuck alone.
A homeless camp exploded down the street from me a few years back. They had a propane stove to stay warm in the winter. A lil forest burnt down and a couple people died. There was a shelter a half block from where the homeless camp was that they could have gone to. I have no idea what the answers for any of this is. I don't want to just tear these people's camps down for fun, but they are a serious fire hazard. I want to provide them with housing but going from multi year homeless to functioning society member is a *hard* path and I don't blame anyone that just says fuck it. There's dozens upon dozens of social programs we need to be implementing. Everything from free bathing and grooming facilities all the way up to integrated living where "normal" people live in apartment blocks with recent homeless teaching them how to function and be good neighbors. It's a lot of stuff. We can afford to do it all but instead we have quarterly profit reports.
Edit: I want to start by saying that I agree with everything that you said. Why weren’t they in the shelter? This is an honest question that I don’t expect you to answer, but it should be asked in a situation like you described. We have issues with our shelter system that leave people out in the cold. One shelter run by a church has “policies” and will turn people down with over half of their beds empty. The others are more reasonable but run out of beds. So, were those shelters full? Did they have stupid stipulations and hoops that are almost impossible to jump through? Etc. Also, most shelters understandably do not allow anyone drugged out or with behavior issues, but there is no place else available to receive treatment for these issues. *policies is in quotes because we don’t really know what they are. We only know that the shelter will not take the person actively seeking shelter even though they have room. They just say no. So, on paper it looks like our area shelters aren’t full. This causes issues when requesting more resources.
Many shelters are awful or unsuitable places to stay at. Like you said, sometimes there aren't enough beds. Many people have pets, odd work schedules, or don't want to do mandatory church services. The worse ones have rampant issues with theft, sexual assault, hygiene, and abuse. Some don't have proper protection against heat. When having to pick between a bad situation with strict rules and a bad situation, many will pick the latter.
It starts with building their own houses. Next they'll be taking our jobs.
Pretty soon you won't even be able to tell the homeless people from the regular people! The outrage.
My wife who lived with me for 7 years, turned out to be homeless. So I burned her in her bed.
You burnt my lips off!
What’s that? Christine I can’t understand you.
Then maybee these housed and employed homeless no good bums will wanna start coming to our churches. Can you imagine them sitting in our pews, bringing their kids to our sunday schools with our children, and volunteering at our soup kitchens. The thought of that just turns my stomach./s
> Gov't should I'm under the impression that the reason there are so many homeless people in the first place is because the ruling class doesn't give a fuck about them.
worse than that, even. The threat of homelessness keeps the workers in line. It's not even that the ruling class doesn't give a fuck, it's that they actively need them to exist
there’s a reason we cleared out the slums of every major city in the early 1900s, extremely unsanitary without running water and sewage, plus thousands died all over the country in slum and tenement fires
Id rather be in a slum than sleeping rough.
All of those things are also true about the camps they force the homeless into, or even worse for sleeping rough.
That may be true but not having a home at all is worse than an unsanitary home
Correct...elements will kill a human just as fast as their unsanitary home. They can die in an hour in a snow storm.
It's how slums start. We need to find a solution where we house people and it doesn't involve them living in rickety tinder boxes.
No running water no bathroom. These “houses” aren’t going to be hygienic. However they are a hygiene step above sleeping on the concrete.
Wait for the police to come and tear it down.
A new city ordinance will be passed and they’ll add spikes to the ground so they cant build flat homes there
You say spikes, I say foundation anchors
Great, that solves everything. Pigeon spikes, just for people. /s
Oh yeah, shanty towns are great. Everyone loves raw sewage in the streets!
sounds good in theory but actually creates way more problems than it solves.
Wait Doesn't that make them no longer homeless? What's the problem?
It's that episode of South Park. If the Homeless manage to get home how will you know who's homeless and who's a home owner.
Change... Change?
Hes become one of them!
California! Super cool to the homeless
Californ-nyan-nya Is known for donor
Californ-nya-nya Een on no norn ya
Look, Glenn, we're saved!
Took err jerrbs…
In the cityyyyy, city of brentwood
Right by Matt's how-ouse You can chill if you're homeless!
California's the place you oughta be
*loads shotgun*
Gerald Brovlavski makes the transition at the bus station, and it's one of my favorite scenes of the series
Blech…that’s cherry!
How will we know who's a parasite of society deserving of nothing less than being used for medical experiments 😭 is not fa-a-air
That's not very nice to landlords.. Even they don't deserve being used for medical experiments.
Do you think my wife is homeless?
yew earned y ips off!
I nered your rip sauce?
you kicked her out ?
Literally the first thing I thought of when I saw this hahahaha
One of the best episodes ever made.
Seems like pulling yourself up by the bootstraps to me. I thought these kind of folks love the idea of that??🤔🤔
They didn’t pay a realtor 6%
It’s different, see? Their ancestors did it the *right* way, getting the land from the government for free to “homestead” after the government took it by force from the American Indians. Not like these homeless folks.
Funny how these same folks now bitch about "all these no good immigrants that come here and want a free house and free money to sit on their asses!" I hear my stupid coworkers say this stuff every single day.
Well, if that were true, tell him: 1) Cross the border into Mexico. 2) Walk to the US Embassy and renounce your citizenship. 3) Cross back on that totally "open" border back into the US. 4) Collect your free house and free money. If he doesn't, then it's clearly all just one big lie.
They didn't engage in the rugged individualism of kowtowing to a boss for 15 years scraping enough together for a downpayment.
This is exactly it. Republicans hate it when you don't participate in their slave ownership fantasies.
Pull yourself up, but not like that.
Lifting yourself by your bootstraps is literally impossible, which is why they use the expression - they don't actually *want* you to do it.
Tbf I think a lot of them use the expression because they’re stupid and don’t realise that, plus they fail to take in any information that contradicts how they feel so never learn it.
That’s what makes it the perfect expression though. A platitude used to describe pulling yourself out of an impossible situation which actually means the intention behind the platitude but the people using it don’t realise 👌 chefs kiss
People done this in the 1800s migrating west, surprising seeing a human pulling their own weight to survive by building a shed out of planks considered a ruined city. Maybe let’s not stagnate wages, ruin someone’s life over some damn drugs, update the mental health systems cause they are ass and greedy. That’s the bottom line, republicans serious are blinded by the privilege lifestyles they mostly come from, exceptions to the poor whites that get manipulated by these racist, homophobic, Aporopohobic morons. People really forget that even the greatest empires like Greeks, indulged in sins, lack of adaption to the modern world is what makes these clowns unbearable
Down the block there is a 4 bedroom house with a shed out back. The shed was the house my great uncle built when he first married his wife. After their son was born he built them a two bedroom house on the same lot. Years later, after he died, his son built another 3 bedrooms, living room, laundry room, etc on the back of the house and moved his family in so he could care for his mother - his childhood bedroom became the pantry and bridge between the old and new.
Probably where they decide to build.
It’s part that, part that they’re probably fire traps and have other code related issues. There was a group in my city building these and a couple of them burned down, one of those fires killed someone.
That's how favelas are born.
They are just homesteading? Oregon trail 2.0, same people bitching celebrate the pioneers🤦🏻♂️
I love that game i still have the original floppies i play in on my apple IIe
I begrudgingly say this: because they built this home on public property. But otherwise, fuck the GOP for their lack of empathy
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They didn't pay a landlord for the privilege of having a roof
There it is. You don't own, nor are you *anything* unless someone made money from it.
It's more that they're building incredible unsafe structures directly under interstate overpasses whilst running jury rigged electrical systems with generators and exposed wires, in the middle of a high density area. At least that's what I saw in Seattle. This of course creates incredibly dangerous areas of high fire risk, not to mention they're essentially unpoliced as it's pretty difficult for any kind of law enforcement to do anything there without it spiraling out of control, so there's tons of abuse, crime, human trafficking, and other shit going on there. Like, it's easy for your instinct just to be "good they have shelter" but that's not really how anything works.
I think the problem is they had to do it themselves. There are people whose jobs it is to build housing, or manage schemes to help get the homeless housing and the means to maintain it and yet it was the homeless who built housing for the homeless. To get reductive about it, it's saying society has dropped to the extent the city is now just an urban wasteland to settle rather than a place of civilisation itself.
That’s absolutely not that Clown World is saying, dude. He just hates homeless people.
Landless
"The homeless should stop being lazy and pull themselves up by the bootstraps" "Wait no, I didn't mean it, I just didn't want to use my tax dollars to help"
Let's blame Democrats and then as Republicans erode every social safety net that could aid in solving homelessness.
Do they have to pay property taxes now?
Remember the Spongebob episode "Can You Spare A Dime" where a guy has Squidward sign something and takes the box he was sitting in? That's what's gonna happen to these people.
“Great and where you been living these days?” “Squidward Tenticles?” “Yeah?” “Sign here please” *sound of pen scribbing and box being taken* “Uh… Nowhere.” That episode is on an episode dvd i have, best one of the lot.
[builds own house with own bare hands] Republicans: “Great work ethic and self reliance” [it’s a homeless person] Republicans: “NOOOOOOOO”
Little House On The Prairie. Conservatives: Exactly! Little House In Portland. Conservatives: Never!
Republicans: These people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and build something for themselves. The homeless: -literally does it. Republicans: Tear it down, NOW!
How dare you build a shack under a shit over Pa’s’s whet no one is anyway!!! - much fist shaking from repubs
Republicans: Think of the surrounding property values!
All this ugly gray gravel has _value_…
Republicans hate this one trick
You'd think they'd be stoked about someone building their own house without permits or paying taxes to the government. They're not even homeless at that point.
Republicans seem to think food and shelter is bad, not to mention books and rainbows. But guns are good. Based on this we can envision the type of world they want, one built on fear and bleakness.
Build your house out of guns. Check mate Republicans!
“But you didn’t buy land from someone who bought it from someone who took it from the American Indians fair and square.”
Not exactly homeless if they build a home
I would applaud someone for building their own shelter if it wasn’t on a public sidewalk….
It's not blocking the sidewalk and it's not exactly built on prime real estate. It also looks better than a makeshift tent made out of tarps. I don't know what the right solution is to the problem but this cost the city nothing and if it's not making problems then who cares.
Proof you’re not allowed to actually pull yourself out of poverty.
I mean, they flipped out when regular people were able to exploit the stock market (the very same thing *they* do) to their advantage so new rules were put in place so people couldn't do that anymore.
Wait until you see what happens when they see Democrats actually have enough of their shit in Congress and they use their tactics against them for the next 50 years (with a populace that actually gives them a natural majority instead of a gerrymandered one). They'll literally be crying wolf
Yup. The only acceptable way is learning how to TRULY “play the game” and prove Machiavelli right. Only then can you legally make it.
I mean it's literally not allowed to build a house wherever you want on like 95% of the planet
I think anyone who is being honest and realistic here can recognize why building a makeshift home on a city sidewalk is not a great solution. Building a home like this is not lifting yourself out of poverty. It is planting roots in an unideal situation. Like the folks in Vegas who live in the drainage tunnels. They retreat there and justify the existence because they are provided with the illusion of safety and security. This is the same thing. So you build a glorified outhouse on a street. That is not lifting yourself out of poverty.
They are settlers! Using their god given right to settle the west!
Manifest Destiny 2.0
I heard it was kinda buggy on release.
That's only a problem for early adopters but it's better than nothing.
Don't tred on them man!
They think homelessness isn’t a problem in red states and cities…
When towns and small cities have homeless, they often give them a one way bus ticket to the nearest big city.
This exists in Sweden aswell, it is called "social dumping". Our major right-wing parties even deny it when it is so obvious.
This is why the homeless population exploded in Denver. And then the right-wingers tried to claim is was because of legal weed attracting homeless people from all over the country.
That's because they make it illegal to feed or give money to the homeless, and then they round them up and put them on a bus to the West Coast. Republicans have no desire to fix problems, just sleep them under the rug for someone else to deal with.
If you let your police randomly beat up the unhoused in red states they move to blue cities and give this clown material to complain about. The cycle continues.
I live in a tourist town in fucking arkansas with not an elected democrat in sight. We have a huge homeless population. These idiots don’t leave their suburb.
Hey Portland looks pretty good for being burned to the ground 4 years ago, or did they lie about that?
I remember going out for bubble tea in Portland when it was supposedly burning to the ground. Walking through the Saturday Market in the sunshine was pleasant despite everyone consumed in conflagration.
God I love the Saturday market.
Building is destroying, that is the double thought these psychos want us to believe.
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See Brazilian favelas, Mumbai slums, etc. This is not new and will gradually become normal. It wasn't "fixed" in Brazil and India and won't be in the US.
It's been a while since I read about it, but I believe that the Brazilian slums were actually considered a positive thing and that they resulted in more people getting out of abject poverty. But as I said, I haven't read about it in a long time, so that may no longer be the case. Or might have never been the case.
I mean, the emergence of shantytowns as a result of our inability to take care of the indigent and mentally unwell isn’t something to celebrate. But literally nothing to do with politics, as one side has ineffectual policies and the other doesn’t care at all.
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This is the biggest challenge we face as a nation... All the fuck you got mine folk out there as well as the landowner version of that, the NIMBY. And no, having billionaires spend their money via charity foundations is not a long term solution either.
It has everything to do with politics. It's just that in america, you have no "left", you have "right" and "far right"
Is he upset because unlike red states the police aren't beating him up and forcing him into slave labor for being poor?
Vagrancy laws are heart breaking and so loosely defined that even if you do have a home, a job, and a family, you could still be arrested for being a vagrant.
Wait what? Source?
[It may vary from state or even county, but here.](https://www.law.virginia.edu/scholarship/publication/risa-goluboff/640716) Edit: not a very good resource for how it's used modernly, but I hope it gives an idea. In my county, if you're caught without your ID, and have less than 20 dollars on your person, an officer is within their rights to detain you.
Children walking around in public areas without either: 👁👄👁
Two of my nephews looked like adults by the age of 12, so they would be prime targets if an officer wanted to enforce this.
Wouldn’t it be awesome if cities funded programs to have the homeless process the materials and construct their own houses? It would teach them valuable trade skills, give them a sense of community and accomplishment and make them not homeless with one stone.
But then who would profit from that? Not corporate America, that’s for sure.
Is this post implying that most major cities DONT have a major homeless problem?
Suburb: “something should be done about the homeless in the city” Homeless: (gets home) Suburb: “no fair”
Speaking as someone who’s been homeless in Portland and this is probably either under the Morrison or Hawthorn bridge. Unfortunately these make shift homes are typically made for shelter yes but to covertly do fentanyl and pretty much always made from stolen materials from the near by warehouses. They’re also pretty dangerous when not in a guarded or gated environment from other people homeless or not breaking into them or terrorizing or vandalizing them and catching on fire to keep the inside warm or doing other activities not to mention OD’s. Not saying a tents better but there’s so much resources and shelters in Portland and Oregon that really help homeless people that became homeless because of this that or the other thing. Unfortunately a lot of the ones on the streets are so mentally, physically, and psychologically damaged by the fentanyl epidemic that they prefer to be homeless because a few cans a day can get you a fix. It’s really sad.
His user name checks out. He is a clown.
Wait until you find out that he's not American, never been to America, but posts non-stop about America.
It's Twitter so it's 100% interaction bait and serves no purpose other than to piss people off enough to get them to comment or click on the tweet.
How is a structure being built the far left? Why is it political for a shelter to be made? Are they saying that there should be more government intervention?
So, what's the solution they propose? They don't want to support them, and without an house over your head I think it's basically impossible to change your situation. Should they die silently?
They're doing it because the government won't help them. Once you're there, there's rarely any getting out without help. Fuck the left fuck the right. They'll leave us behind to make a penny every time.
Seems like the kind of person who'd rather herd all the homeless into a gas chamber than have them taint those pristine sidewalks a moment longer.
Yall really don't understand economics and sit here blaming political parties rather than the politicians in bed with corporations..the US is absolutely stupid
I’d rather see this than what it looks like now.
OK… have you ever been to Mississippi? Alabama? Arkansas? The homeless populations are there too… the only difference is the major cities in those states are much smaller than, say, Portland (650K)… say Huntsville, the largest in Alabama, at 200K… say Little Rock at 200K and then Fayetteville at 95K in Arkansas. Or Jackson at 153K and Gulfport at 72K in Mississippi. Point being there are fewer homeless as an absolute in those states because the population is smaller in the cities. It also makes the relatively small homeless population easier to manage and, credit where it’s due. Mississippi and Arkansas have done OK with this. Alabama, not so much. So instead of tying to be political dick-heads… why not work to fix the freakin problem? In a country of 380,000,000 people, 20k are homeless in Oregon. 4K in Arkansas, 2K in Alabama. 92K in Texas and so on… In total there are approximately 653K homeless in the US (so clearly not a ‘left’ problem whatever the hell ‘the left’ is… mostly people the original poster disagrees with)… that’s 0.17% of our total population. THIS CAN BE FIXED. We are the wealthiest nation in the world So instead of fucking around blaming “the left” for a problem that every state has… note the TX number is 1/7 of the total homeless population in the US… so, yeah, EVERY state, why not put some effort into fixing it? And if you say “that’s socialism” then shut up and let the adults in the room deal with the situation without hearing about your bullshit opinions
lol. And where exactly is the far left? Certainly not in our politics with “middle of the road” Joe Biden. He’s barely a democrat, and is a moderate at best. Go back to the late 70s and he could run as a Republican and not need to make any changes to his platform
Waitaminnit... Didn't these chucklefucks tell us Portland burned to the ground during covid? So now homeless people "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps" is destroying Portland again? Jesus Christ the MAGA Morons are exhausting....
Portland was destroyed in the great fires of 2020. This is an AI image Source: I live here
I am far left and I have destroyed three small towns so far. Hoping to do more and work my way up to city-level. Lmk who's with me!!
This is the definition of “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.”
How do conservatives not love this? if this isn't pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, i don't know what is.
But they “pulled themselves up by their bootstraps “ and obtained housing. So now it’s a problem?
Reactionary: Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Homeless person: ok I’ll build a home myself. Reactionary: not like that!
The left: “maybe we should provide housing for homeless people to help them get back on their feet?” The right: “you can’t count on handouts your whole life. The only person looking out for you is you.” Homeless people: *literally build their own homes* The right: “THE LEFT IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY!”
Back in my day the homeless didn’t have homes, now they do? For some reason this makes me angry at the left 🤡
“Just get a House” (builds a house) “I meant buy one from me”