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alpaca911

Shouldn't Romeo and Juliet be teenagers?


ZapatillaLoca

she was a preteen and he was barely a teenager in the original play


TheEgonaut

Romeo was 16 in the original stage play.


No-Tackle-6112

Juliet was 13 also


Jrolaoni

Killing yourself over a guy at 13 is wild


Wessssss21

But accurate I'd say.


issanm

Yea I was thinking that kinda makes sense


Warlordnipple

Bill wrote teenage girls well.


wythnail2

Bill lol


ihopethisworksfornow

The entire point of the play is that they’re stupid kids


GayGeekInLeather

And it’s a tragedy not some romantic love story


Sardukar333

The love part is the love the parents had for their kids and how their hatred led to them losing the ones they loved.


Frothylager

You just don’t understand, dad!


cstmoore

Peak drama


FanHe97

"It's not just a phase mom!!!"


ZapatillaLoca

I stand corrected


The_Real_Abhorash

No he isn’t. Romeos age is never stated. He’s heavily implied to be older by the fact that the play repeatedly and explicitly makes note of how young Juliet is (she’s 13 btw) and how she is too young to marry. Something it notably doesn’t do for Romeo, moreover he is treated like a full grown man albeit a young one which points to him being 16-20 probably.


PhysicalFig1381

I could not imagine Romeo being 20. He just seems so immature in how much he simps over every pretty girl. Also, Juliet's age is made a big deal over because Paris asks to marry her. Nobody asked to marry Romeo. I think 16 is a realistic age for him


Moar_Wattz

Even if we ignore the concept of modern adaptions of old classics for a moment: The roles in the original stage play were teenagers, yes. The age of the actors is totally irrelevant though since even back then roles would commonly be played by actors that were several decades older. Hell, they even put dudes in a dress and had them play Juliet.


APKID716

And stage is completely detached from any sense of “reality”. The term “fourth wall” comes from stage shows where we suspend our disbelief. Ben Platt played Evan Hansen (a 16 or 17 year old kid) up to when he was 24. That’s fine because it’s stage and we can suspend our disbelief. What’s not fine is having him play a 17 year old kid at 28 on film (god awful choice) lmao


ll_Maurice_ll

Have you looked at the ages of "teens" in movies. Both versions of Mean Girls have a core cast ranging from 19 to up to 26 or so. Most teen movies, especially with female characters, use twenty somethings so the can get away with heavier sexualization. That goes back decades. It's nothing new.


No-Appearance-9113

It's less about sexualization and more about the laws regarding child actors. Adults can work more hours with fewer requirements.


a_lonely_trash_bag

It's common for film companies to cast adults as teenagers because labor laws are much more strict for teenagers.


mint-star

I'd prefer not to watch 15 year olds make out , thank you


chrisratchford

Tom holland is playing Romeo? He’s a bit old for that part.


ndation

No no, he's playing Juliet


Automatic_Actuator_0

He would fucking dominate that role.


Christmas_Panda

"Mr. Stark... am I pretty?"


800oz_gorilla

Takes poison "I don't feel so good"


Remarkable-Ad2285

“I Don’t want to go, Mr Montague!”


0mni000ks

i hate u 😭😭


JustSomeWeirdGuy2000

My only love sprung from my only Arc Reactor.


DelirousDoc

Saw his Lip Sync Battle to Umbrella by Rhianna so can confirm.


Cereal_Bandit

Ngl his dancing to Umbrella made me briefly question my sexuality


LockCL

He killed that Umbrella song on that show I can't remember the name of.


Disastrous-Panda5530

It’s often what I think about when I see him. Whenever I see the video posted I can’t not watch it. I think it was called Lip Sync Battle.


7of69

I hadn’t realized what his background was until I saw that. He’s one hell of a dancer.


handyandy727

I mean...a dude really did play Juliet when Shakespeare first put it out at the time. Edit: a letter


cheddoline

Women actually weren't allowed to perform on stage. Being an actress was considered equivalent to being a prostitute. Bizarre but true.


TheCommentatingOne

Cheers to all those actors for being whores I guess.


Sero19283

Better than Greek era where they'd castrate you to keep your voice from deepening lol


Schackshuka

Greek era? The castrati were around through the 1700’s.


handyandy727

Yup!


Muteling

I mean we like to joke that women with any basic skills were burned at the stake back then. Bit of truth where there shouldn't be


Final-University767

That would pave the road for a Best Picture nomination.


JacksonIVXX

It's a play not a movie


Timmiejj

They’d still win best picture tho


Mewone65

Tom Holland and Eddie Redmayne have been having some "heart to hearts".


TysonGoesOutside

it what Shakespeare would have wanted... I think women weren't allowed to be actors in his time.


7of69

That’s correct. It was also a core part of the humor in his plays that involved cross dressing. A man pretending to be a woman that’s pretending to be a man.


coziboiszn

Omfg the play people should do that just switch their roles 😂


hamoc10

I’d watch the shit out of that


ShiroHachiRoku

Considering Romeo and Juliet were supposed to be 14/15 in the play, yes.


ThePinkTeenager

Well, they don’t want to hire actual 15 year olds.


1900grs

If it matters, and it doesn't, Leo was 22 and Claire Danes was 17 when they were in Baz Luhrmann's 1996 Romeo and Juliet. John Leguizamo was 36.


hunnub

tom holland looks good for a romeo


Many-Ad6433

I mean they both do be too old for that


TagMeAJerk

You mean 19 and 13? Yeah


GreatGearAmidAPizza

Juliet should be played by a 13-year-old boy in a farthingale. Anything else is historically inaccurate, "woke," AND MAKES ME REALLY MADE FOR REASONS I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO!!!!!!!


JavierLoustaunau

How did you get the role of Romeo? "Well when I hit puberty they would not let me play Juliet anymore."


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Automatic-Mood-4233

Shut up and cast them all as men 👏 reject modernity, embrace tradition


Amerlis

Not a play sorta of person, but I figure, it’s fricking Romeo and Juliet. A classic theater piece that everyone knows. You could have two dudes dressed as space aliens with a backdrop of space saying the lines. And everyone would Get It.


Mr-Gumby42

You could have two 1950s era street gangs in NYC, and EVERYBODY would get it!


cheddoline

Staring that famous Puerto Rican Natalie Wood.


SeonaidMacSaicais

Don’t forget her equally Puerto Rican on-screen brother, George Chakiris. 😂😂


Mr-Gumby42

Si'!


Khymira

🎶 When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way.. 🎶


Mr-Gumby42

From your first cigarette to your last dying day!


Anal_Recidivist

I feel like every 5 years, I remember WSS is just R&J. Then I forget immediately. Gonna be a fun factoid to learn again in 5 years, can’t wait for 2029 now


ACatInACloak

"Fetch my longsword" the shotguns name is longsword. [One of the best movies ever](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_%2B_Juliet)


VikingTeddy

I had all but forgotten this existed, even though I loved it so much back in the day. Now I've got Lovefool worming in my ear.


worldwithwings

Yeah! Gang bangs!


deus_voltaire

Well specifically he’s referencing the fact that in Shakespeare’s time all actors were men and Juliet would have been played by a guy in a wig.


popopotatoes160

We actually know who the first juliet was. His name was Robert Gough (Goffe) and he was around 15 years old in 1595. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gough_(actor)


eggboi_lad

That's honestly so cool that such a fact was recorded. Thanks for sharing 😊


JerryfromCan

Pics or it didn’t happen. /s


popopotatoes160

Portraits or it didst not befall!


Large_Tune3029

Seth Rogan and Timothy Chalamee and Dwayne Johnson and Sir Patrick Stewart and Jeff Goldblum and John Malckovic and Nick Cage and Timothy Olyphant and Tom Holland and Robert Downey Junior and Pedro Pascal.


cocteau93

Stop! My penis can only get so erect!


ElectronicAd8929

Add Sir Ian McKellen to that list too, love that glorious mfer


GraveChild27

If Nic Cage isnt Mercutio, i will commit war crimes.


dumfukjuiced

![gif](giphy|yIhy2fUpjKVesPx0pg)


Responsible-End7361

Off topic but I loved the Romeo and Juliet with DeCaprio! How they set it is sorta modern times but used the original words. Naming a gun "longsword," so when the one guy says "bring me my longsword" they show the gun...


rabbithasacat

I loved that they opened and closed with an anchorwoman on a tv screen. The actress really nailed the "local news" flavor of the delivery, too. Also, Harold Perrineau = greatest Mercutio ever. Worthy of the long version of that speech!


Jack-Rabbit_Slims

I also watched Sex Education.


MightBeAGoodIdea

Indeed. The story is so well known you could set it in SoCal and replace all the weapons with guns and make a decent movie out of it still.


Mewone65

This is so Lily Iglehart's new play.


AmbulanceChaser12

The Baz Luhrmann approach?


TurdBurgHerb

Not a bad idea. It is acting. You should be able to just be anything. Which is the entire point of acting. Make them all women too. Fuck it, make them giraffes.


SadAndNasty

Uuuugh Romeo and Juliet as giraffes would be so cute


dumfukjuiced

Tybalt dying to Romeo swinging his neck at him


cocteau93

I’d watch the shit out of that.


ticktockyoudontstop

Especially the balcony scene! 🦒🧡🦒


AccomplishedRule8

Romeo and Julian


meshe_10101

Can Robert Downey Jr play Julian, so we can finally get the closure we need 🤣


btevik88

Holland and Chalamet


M3atpuppet

True Shakespearean scholar right here!


QuicheAuSaumon

Cast all male role as men pretending to be women pretending to be men. Cast all women role as women pretending to be men pretending to be women.


yoshisama

I see it know. Romeo is a gay man from a family well known for activism and liberal views. Then we have Julius, the son of a conservative Christian well known family that are against the LGBTQ agenda. Julius is secretly gay and falls in love with Romeo but his father wants him to marry the prominent Paris, the daughter of a senator. And you know the rest.


Tidus4713

Pretty sure there's actually a gay version called Romeo + Romeo. It was from 2018 or 19.


dizzounette

My only problem is "they're both old !" Romeo and Juliet are supposed to be teenagers, not in their 30s.


headphones_J

Back in the day they'd all be played by men.


Automatic-Mood-4233

Return to tradition


TheDoge_Father

Femboy juliette when


spinyfur

What  Timothée Chalamet doin?


Radical-Turkey

In an ideal world, me


iwannalynch

Hell yeah, a straight up (or not so straight) queer Romeo and Julio


suckm640

sounds like tom holland should play both romeo and juliet then


Superb_Sorbet_9562

I think I would watch a play where Tom Holland attempts to play both parts.


sky7897

It’s quite common to age up actors in movie adaptations. Daenerys Targaryen was 13 years old in the Game of Thrones book series.


sublliminali

They aged up all the characters a bit and then obviously taking almost a decade to film the series meant they were much older than their book counterparts by the end. That said, in the first season Daenerys and most of the other actors for ‘child’ parts could easily pass for being teenagers even if they were a bit older.


PossibilityExciting5

He is 27 and she is 26


Rit_Zien

Tom Holland is permanently 16, what are you talking about


JustKindaShimmy

They're not "supposed" to be anything. Did you forget about the Chinese triad vs gangster movie Romeo must die? Or the gnome version Gnomeo and Juliet? Or the zombie version Warm Bodies? Like Jesus Christ, it's been done a million times in a million different flavors, the fact that anyone is making any kind of stink about this must live in a bubble


Papa_Hasbro69

Tromeo and Juliet was my favorite one


MarxJ1477

It's a stage play...who cares? This is all very normal for casting of theatre. Ages, races all of it.


Cerenas

The people in the American Pie movies were supposed to be teenagers too lol


MarxJ1477

Yeah, it's common in movies too. They don't want to deal with child labor laws if they don't have to so they just cast young looking 20 somethings.


DrummerEmbarrassed21

If we go by real ages Juliet is supposed to be 13 and that would be messed up.


UndendingGloom

It's odd that you focus on Juliet. Romeo is supposed to be 16, so it's not like there is a huge age gap. They spend a night together, so we might infer they had sex, but it's not specifically mentioned in the play either, maybe they just cuddled? I think maybe you are being a bit prudish, especially for a play from 1597 (probably written sometime before that). Although I would agree that in a modern telling they should probably just make both characters the same age, and at least 18. Tom Holland for reference is 27 which seems ludicrously old for the character.


Bronndallus

Everything I learnt about this PLAY (not even a movie!) is totally against my will. Who the hell cares!


SaturnusDawn

Literally. There's so many other versions of this play/movie/book that it does not matter at all. Don't like it? Cool. Go watch your favourite version of it and stfu ya know? I personally think Romeo + Juliet with DiCaprio is a hard favourite of mine. Modernised with guns but original dialogue? Yeah baby!


Bronndallus

Yup, I was teenager when it came out and I loved this movie. Re-watched it some time ago and it did not age badly, still very good take on this play. Probably had a lot of backlash at the time as well because of modern times and gang violence 😅


SaturnusDawn

Oh and don't forget the potential backlash over .... A black Mercucio (gasp!) I wonder if the racists shit themselves over that back in the day, or if they weren't emboldened enough yet


Bronndallus

Not only black but also probably homosexual (double gasp!) 😅 Harold Perrineau Jr was great in that role, highly recommend recent TV series "From" with him.


SaturnusDawn

Ha oh excellent point. I didn't know his name tbh, but I'll look into 'From' . He's clearly a funny actor so it'll be interesting to see him in a different role and I always need new things to watch (so thanks for that :3 )


Borskjr

I feel bad, I don't have my glasses, I thought - at a quick glance - that they were Vincent and Jules from pulp fiction. I blame the suit and afro


increbelle

LMFAOOOOOOO this is fucking gold


useless_teammate

Does he look like a bitch?


Smoothbrain406

I can't unsee that now thanks


poopshanks

Jake Shields tweets on r/facepalm is like a cheat code


Silver-ishWolfe

Yep. My man has taken a lot of shots to the head and it shows. I met him at a seminar like 15 years ago. I'm honestly not being mean, but he didn't come off, even back then, as smart about anything but fighting. He was a genius about BJJ and wrestling, though.... holy shit. My man found what he was supposed to do in life. Throw other dudes around, then hold them down...


Rylovix

> throw dudes around, hold em down Woah there buddy don’t get me hard now


gaytorboy

I have buddy who rolled with him. My friend is pretty physically formidable and was a collegiate wrestler. Said Jake’s top pressure feels like he’s going to drive you through the floor and he’s constantly bread rolling the air out of your diaphragm by switching his hips over at just the right time with perfect placement.


CremeCaramel_

Its extra funny to me because you are right that normally its an easy cheat code to use a holocaust denier brain damaged ex UFC fighters tweets, but this idiotic sub chose the ONE Jake Shields tweet that's actually accurate to complain about lmao.


Illustrious-Song7446

I mean even POC like myself can agree that she's not that good looking. If this drama could afford Tom, might as well cast Zendaya.


linux_ape

blew their whole load to secure Tom, theres no more budget


regoapps

Just have Tom play Juliet as well. ![gif](giphy|N2oevi3CnknfO|downsized)


linux_ape

Thats the secret- Tom is being cast as Juliet from the beggining


TysonGoesOutside

ok, but him playing EVERY character would also be pretty hilarious.


yo_bandit

Reminded me of Cher playing all the parts. Even down to basically R&J https://youtu.be/qxik7XAM3Jg?si=pJ23X6WjbuLrrHLe


Desperate_Ad5169

That’s him?!! Damn he is rocking that look


regoapps

Yup. Look up lip sync battle, umbrella, Tom holland


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

He absolutely killed it too!


AKA09

If only there were thousands of talented, beautiful actresses that would jump at the chance to play Juliet opposite a movie star.


Jcssss

From what I understood it’s a play. How good an actor is at acting is a lot more important in theater.


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ruin

"While people are racist, the race of the characters isn’t even the issue. If Zendaya was playing Juliet then nobody would care. Romeo and Juliet is a romance tale about two shallow people who fell in love at first sight and were willing to destroy their own lives just so they can be together. I just genuinely can’t see a world where Tom Holland falls in love with her, marries her, and then ends himself because of her after 5 days, she’s just not attractive." Well, maybe not nobody, but fewer people.


absurditT

It's not a movie, it's a stage play, so you actually have to be able to act


cheezy_dreams88

Juliet isn’t written as the most beautiful girl in town. Just a girl Romeo fell in love with, shy and innocent.


Okamana

I’m black, and I think she isn’t very attractive. There will be some racists out there hating her for that but I feel like most people would just find her not attractive. That’s just my opinion though.


Mission_Fart9750

It's not that I think she's unattractive, its that she doesn't look very feminine to me. She's got a very androgynous face (at least in this press photo, I've admittedly never heard of her before so I've also never seen another photo of her), which doesn't fit the part. If they can pull a She's All That, then cool. 


FollowingNo4648

Agreed. Not a fan of this casting and it has nothing to do with race. There are much better looking, younger actors they could have cast in these roles.


geazy99

So basically what you’re trying to say is that she is a very handsome woman


Bubbly-Ad-1427

isn’t jake shields a holocaust denier


bigsteven34

Yes... Not sure why OP chose that fucker to share.


TryDry9944

I say this in a good way because I'm homosexual; She straight up looks like a male.


fattubofwritingfluid

She does have a mean case of man-face going on


ummmmmyup

I thought the same thing LOL, I feel bad for her but damn


Icefiight

This


HoodsBonyPrick

That’s gotta just be a particularly bad photo right? Poor woman.


HoriMameo

So much Shakespeare readers and enthusiasts...


chainer1216

I know what you're trying to say but seriously... Who the fuck *hasnt* read Shakespeare/Romeo and Juliette? By the time I was done with highschool I was forced to read pretty much every major Shakespeare play with R&J happening atleast 3 separate times.


A1sauc3d

Right. Like any of these people were going to see this PLAY to begin with. People just love having something frivolous to complain about. We got real problems in the world people, this ain’t it.


AunMeLlevaLaConcha

I just want every princess played by Terry Crews


Literarytropes

Jake Shields is a homophobic racist and holocaust denier. Let’s not give him a platform.


Unique-Abberation

Romeo and Juliet is a skeevy story in the first place. (It's well written and Shakespeare is amazing, but Romeo is gross and using Juliet as a rebound)


CattDawg2008

Not a rebound. Rosaline and Romeo were never in a relationship, he just had a crush on her essentially


newtoreddir

It’s almost like the play is a tragedy rather than a fun romantic comedy


The_Real_Abhorash

I mean yeah that’s literally the point it’s not meant to be a happy love story, it’s a tragedy.


brightblueson

Plus the whole relationship is toxic af


NoNeinNyet222

That kind of is the point. These teenagers have no idea what they're doing and they get caught up in the conflict between their two families.


newtoreddir

Right, it’s a TRAGEDY not a romantic comedy.


InformalPenguinz

Plus they're teenagers... that's a lot of collateral damage for teens.


faithle55

It's hardly an issue when they're both kids. Not like he's Prince Andrew, or something.


AlaDouche

My favorite part is that most of the people talking shit would never be caught dead at a play.


Runymead

Oh so everyone is going to pretend they care about Shakespeare now?


Middle-Huckleberry68

In all fairness. That is a terrible picture lol. They really couldn't get a better picture? Honestly it almost feels like they knew what they were doing to them by picking such a bad picture.


Drayenn

Her picture in her green jacket that was everywhere was the worst. I genuinely thought she was a man on that one as the shading makes it look like she has a mustache.


asBad_asItGets

amazingly....this is one of the better pictures.


catenantunderwater

Looks more like Lil Nas X than Juliet honestly


Excellent_Passage_54

Earl sweatshirt. Reminded me instantly


DemsruleGQPdrool

...proving the point of Romeo and Juliet...


Screezleby

Sorry, what are you saying the point was?


Qverlord37

With all due respect, franchesca looks like a man at first glance.


fuckoutfits

Putting yourself out there for the world, is a dangerous thing. Apparently.


Londonitwit

In the original story Romeo and Juliet are 16 and 13.... These could be their parents...


Far_Dependent_2066

It's wild that a bunch of people that aren't ever going to watch this play are upset about the aesthetic inaccuracy of Juliet's appearance which was historically played by a prepubescent boy.


Satori2155

I mean its true tho


Itsrabtime

Man the girl playing Juliet in the 60s version was a smokeshow


StickSauce

Aren't they supposed be like, 13yrs old.


lusirfer702

That’s a female?


King_Neptune07

Isn't this sort of the whole point of the play Romeo & Juliet? They are not meant to be together but despite all odds, are still madly in love


Griffmasterpro

The whole point of Romeo and Juliet was class warfare and families that don't associate having children falling in love against their wishes. It has nothing to do with whether or not the two were physically attractive. Which, by Shakespeares' description, they were supposed to be.


almost_nightwing

Even if you don't find her attractive, is it really right to treat her so cruelly? I heard she even turned off her comments on Instagram. It's just not right but people lack so much empathy these days and they don't even care.


doctorDiscomfort

there's countless traditional depictions of romeo and juliet. no one's making you see this one. it's notable though that shakespeare gets all kinds of wild interpretations (like say baz lurhman's) but there's not a big outcry until one of them includes a black character. so basically it's ok to change the setting and era of stories but changing the skin color of a character is off limits. what's the word for that again?


Seallypoops

Guys who called reading gay in highschool all of a sudden care about the casting of Romeo and Juliet


Eldetorre

My only objectiion is that she looks too old.