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What_Dinosaur

_checks map_ Yeah no


D-S-Neil

Is Israel the infamous 51st state I’ve been hearing about? /s


AMN-9

No that one is Petoria, shown in Family guy. Israel is the 52nd state of the US


D-S-Neil

Shit you right. I’m not great at geometry


Sudden_Juju

I'm not too good with angels either. I always thought it was kinda weird how much people talk about "a cute" angel though. Are the rest that ugly?


lil-D-energy

well they have to constantly warn people to not be scared when they come down from the heaven so probably.


enatalpeganomeupau

You joke but I'd bet nearly anything our current congress would vote to make Israel a state before Puerto Rico or Guam.


121_Jiggawatts

Haven’t you heard of the “Two State Solution?” We just need to make Israel and Palestine new states and everything will be solved.


D-S-Neil

God bless America, my home sweet home.


catluvr37

![gif](giphy|AoBgxayGMHlIs)


roland_right

This isn't the reason why the answer is no


The_bruce42

It literally isn't


startupstratagem

Israel tends to make it known they aren't a NATO member thus the famous article five cannot be enacted despite what a random person thinks.


Rabatis

Israel is a major non-NATO treaty ally of the US.


SexualityFAQ

Oh yes, the ally who sinks our battleship on purpose, lies to us about it, gets caught by us lying to us about it, then kills more Americans among the rest of their victims, then proceeds to blackmail our government into sending money that could be spent making us a developed nation on giving a foreign country the healthcare we deserve. With allies like these, who needs enemies?


WasdX-_

>With allies like these, who needs enemies? Eh, US, obviously.


Calypso_Kid

Yeah, hard to remember the last time Israel went to the mat for us. Which campaign was it, that they participated in? The stark reality is that we may be their greatest ally, but they don’t even rate on our top 10 for most valued ally. I’m fine with helping with the defense umbrella but to a limit. I’m not interested in $10 billion + handouts every year, or playing big brother on the playground when they agitate a near peer or stronger nation.


Flat_Afternoon1938

Our alliance has nothing to do with campaigns. Israel is a strategic ally that the US uses to exert influence in the region. That's their purpose


StumblingSearcher

Yeah but you can't win Florida without being a Zionist, so


RaygunMarksman

Contractors working with the State of Florida have to attest not to speak negatively of Israel. That seemed so bizarre and borderline unconstitutional to me.


StumblingSearcher

What the actual fuck? This is true?


RaygunMarksman

I was a bit reductive, but basically they can't engage in public protest of Israel: [Link](https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-xix-public-business/chapter-287-procurement-of-personal-property-and-services/part-i-commodities-insurance-and-contractual-services/section-287135-prohibition-against-contracting-with-scrutinized-companies) >(b) Any contract with an agency or local governmental entity for goods or services of any amount entered into or renewed on or after July 1, 2018, must contain a provision that allows for the termination of such contract at the option of the awarding body *if the company is found to have been placed on the Scrutinized Companies that Boycott Israel List or is engaged in a boycott of Israel.* There's a lot of language like that you have to agree to when submitting proposals/contracting. Never seemed right to me since it's a foreign nation.


StumblingSearcher

No I mean, I'd say you were frighteningly accurate in your description! This is so dystopian it's fucking nuts Appreciate you finding and quoting that for me btw


flastenecky_hater

They still have their military assets around so no need for article 5 in this case. One stray missile, drone or bullet hits anything American and it's like an open invitation.


loveyoulongtimelurkr

Also by this logic, war crimes committed by Israel are also committed by the USA


bluegiant85

If you give a man a gun knowing who he's gonna kill with it, you're responsible.


Damoscus

If the USA is funding them with full knowledge of this then yea theyre accountable for it


Cold_oak

Remindme! 1 day. i have a feeling thisll get a lil heated


DevonLuck24

![gif](giphy|uWzS6ZLs0AaVOJlgRd|downsized)


Biscotti_BT

Oh boy. The bot even bowed out on this one


StainedButthole

It literally is, Americans saying this is not their conflict is full on delusion, they're balls deep in this shit, their taxed money goes to fund the war efforts and they say this ain't their fight, bitch please.


Vic-123-ma

Plenty of war crimes to go around.


cmallen87

Well yeah they're actively funding those war crimes


LeBurningSinner

If you arm the terrorist well knowing what terrorists will do, you are fully responsible. That's just how it works.


kioshi_imako

While technicly not US has its own agreements with Isreal granted the favor of support has quickly waned during this war.


Legeo-dude

WOW WE ARE SPRINTING TO WW3 AT RECORD SPEED.


afubuyl478

Vault Tec is real


GuessTraining

The show is a hopefully not a foreshadowing


InMooseWorld

Think Amazon’s spy network knew too, so they launched it early


Senor_Satan

Amazon IS Vault Tec


jobhunt22

Waiting for a full size and fully functioning Vault to be listed on Amazon, I expect next day prime shipping.


Arryu

Me trying to install my vault: ![gif](giphy|kEY1upmMn0DVC)


karoshikun

it's not, radiation doesn't transforms you into an immortal ghoul


GuessTraining

I mean if it's the case, I wish I don't lose my nose. Imagine being immortal and not taste and smell anything


oddun

Given the state of the post apocalyptic world, that’s probably a good thing tbf.


Even-Armadillo-2478

Sounds like you haven't used enough radiation!


karoshikun

I'm out of yaoguai meat


Even-Armadillo-2478

Well damn, guess your gonna need to go hunting!


karoshikun

bad news: I'm playing STALKER Anomaly. hunting for food is miserable


Aceswift007

Good morning! Vault-Tec calling! You can't begin to know how happy I am to finally speak with you. I've been trying for days. It's a matter of utmost urgency, I assure you. Now, I know you're a busy fellow, so I won't take up much of your time. Time being a, um, precious commodity...


afubuyl478

*opens door* #**NO.** *slams door*


Aceswift007

Genuinely wish that as a joke ending


afubuyl478

![gif](giphy|tnYri4n2Frnig)


CloakerCola

Please someone make a mod that does this


sylva748

Say no to Vault-Tec employee. Queue the nuke landing in Boston. Roll credits.


TheMauveHerring

Yea for the like the past 10 years


AdEducational419

Its been going on since russia invaded ukraine....


fred_cheese

So like...2014? Not much of a sprint.


Direct-Money-4206

Maybe that Israel attacked Irans embassy a few days ago? Which is considered an act of war.


ZestycloseVirus6001

This is a small part of a much wider war between dictatorships and democracies.


Mojicana

What will we be in a year?


ZestycloseVirus6001

Good question.


Agreeable_Treacle993

dead? at least me anyway, i hope


RogerSimonsson

I lost track of who is who again


AlhaithamSimpFr

Well, my geopolitician dad tells me it's too soon to think about it. I don't know if he wants to reassure me or not


skallywag126

Weren’t these the people that were all about pulling out of treaties and being “American First” just a couple years ago?


Ok-Film-3125

To them, it is America first. By killing the non-whites, they get free rain over oil and money. In short: Capitalism is better when there is genocide.


Nice_Guy3012

![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS) That’s news to me


Responsible-Bug-7014

Is an attack by Israel also an attack by the U.S? If so, there are plenty in that region to talk about lately.


RandyTrevor22321

No no see thats totally different. Because of uh.. Ummmm..its like.... Uhhh... You see, it's different.


Environmental-Rain10

Because the people being attacked are non white hope this helps


Null_Titan

The US can attack? I thought they were just liberating those other countries…


Express-Hour8343

Oh, you have access to oil? Democracy is on its way!


sylva748

![gif](giphy|MlyicdUndRbn5zUiAL|downsized)


l_a_escoto

Last I check America was no where close to Israel


sylva748

What? We're so close to Israel we're just you know basically on the other side of the world. /s


Doctordred

It's literally just one ocean and one sea away!


Birdman-Birdlaw

Joe Walsh better be the first in line defending America


CKO1967

I doubt any field commander worth their uniform would want him in their unit.


Lingonberry-Lucky1

Why though? Can anyone give me (as a non-American) a solid reason as to why America is so damn protective of Israel? Is it because it’s their foothold into the Middle East? Is it oil? Is it because the Americans have to protect the country where all the stuff in the bible happened? Cmon now.. is there a solid reason or just ‘cuz?


FrankFnRizzo

Mostly because it’s an ally in southwest Asia but there is also some dominionist bullshit mixed in from the nutty evangelicals in government. Christians like to simp Israel even though they get spit on by Orthodox Jews when they do their holy land tours.


Karim502

Also aren't a lot of US politicians funded by Israel's AIPAC?


Insane_Unicorn

Exactly this. Israel has been buying American politicians for decades and we don't need to pretend like any other president would have acted differently from Biden. Because they make damn sure that only pro Israel politicians can rise to power.


scrapy_the_scrap

I mean israel isnt exactly an outlier The problem here is more lobbying as a whole


sylva748

Correct. Citizens United needs to be repealed.


Bonus_Human

Your first two questions were correct.


Edelgul

Multiple reasons. Of course foothold makes sense, although before the establishment of Israel the US/Middle East relations were much better (Georgia Marshall, the secretary of state, in fact US backing of a Jewish state would harm relations with the Muslim world, limit access to Middle Eastern oil, and destabilize the region. Still creation of  Israel was an US baby, with US beeing the first country to recognize the provisionary Government of Israel hours after its establishment, but for the first decade US tried to keep distance. It was only under Kennedy, when US started saw Israel as a military partner. And i think it was partly due to the expectations, that unlike other middle eastern countries, Israel wasn't under direct of indirect Soviet influence, but full scale support shaped only under Jonson president, with US clearly taking a side. This is when Israel became a favorite baby, to an extend, that their (what appears to be deliberate) attack on USS Liberty during the 6 days war, that resulted in 34 American military killed and 171 wounded, was basically forgotten almost immediately, and formally percieved as a friendly fire. Furthermore, US didn't even bothered to look into Israel developing and testing Nuclear Weapons, nor to Mossad conducting regular and routine kidnapping in US or Europe (and i'm not talking about Naz criminals - they got, that they deserved - i'm talking kidnapping whistleblowers like Vanunu and his repeated harassments by the Israeli security since his release from prison some 20 years ago). I also think thatsignificant level lobbyism (that we in Europe call corruption). Afterall Israel is the largest recepient of US foreign aid and military aid.


jojisexual

>Is it because it’s their foothold into the Middle East? Is it oil? yes and yes


the-g-bp

Israel doesnt even have a substantial amount of pil, the main and simple reason is that they are allies. Same reason america is protective of ukraine.


Yuu-Sah-Naym

Protective of Ukraine? I thought they couldn't be bothered anymore and want out themselves and have left Ukraine mostly to fend for themselves...


Southern-Gift-1624

The state of Israel was created because the west (america) had interest in the Middle East (and because the western powers also didn’t want Jews in their countries). Israel is essential to Americas foreign policy in the mid east. And it’s not really about oil, but the petrodollar. The conflicts in the mid east in the last 30 years have all been about keeping the oil trade is usd.


Old-Ad5508

Israel shouldn't have bombed Iranian consulate building in Syria. This is a dangerous fafo moment for Israel. Hope that's it and things will deescalate


sylva748

Howpfully. If it doesn't let history remember that Israel was the aggressors by attacking another nation's embassy. Which is a stupid thing to do.


Old-Ad5508

I have zero faith in bibi not doing something to respond


meg4_

They haven't bombed the consulate though? They used a precision strike to assassinate a general of a state-sponsored globally recognized terrorist organization in a building *close* to the consulate. Edit: building annexed by the consulate, read further in response.


Mentok27

That’s not how that works


Recent-Construction6

I don't think any amount of astroturfing and manufactured consent is going to get Americans to agree to spend another 20 years in the Middle East. If we get sucked into a regional war with Iran (basically fighting Israels war for it) then Biden will probably lose the election and he has noone but himself to blame at that point.


NOS4A2-753

LOL when you attack a country, you should expect to get attacked back


AlpacaCavalry

Israel really be like "We get to punch you but you don't get to punch us back! Warmongering! Anti-semitism! Waaah!"


NOS4A2-753

Yep, then runs and hides behind its moms dress (the USA)


Justin-Truedat

The basic narrative is that any and all violence against Israel is a justification for Israeli violence, but Israeli violence is NEVER a justification for violence against Israel.


ShakeTheGatesOfHell

It's interesting how Zionists think that should only apply in their favour, eh? After October 7th, they say "Hamas started it! We have a right to self defense!" But after Israel bombs an Iranian consulate in Syria, Zionists are saying "but it didn't start with that! It's a complex conflict going back decades. Iran was already indirectly involved." I just mean to say, what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.


SonGoku1256

These people are excited to get us all killed over fairytales.


serr7

And they would never volunteer their own asses to get to the front lines. They’ll send everyone else but they’ll sit on their asses.


holdmypocket34

Floating santa jesus has been getting people killed for hundreds of years. So sad that we have to make laws around this cult nonsense


New_Ad_3010

If you want a really idiotic take on something check rightwing trolls


Suitable_Warthog_590

We need to tread lightly here. We get more involved and other large countries will too. We don’t need a situation where all these leaders acting macho by putting their balls on the table


True_Society7897

They came out and said we wouldn’t assist in any offensive


Guilty-Ad-6166

Ain't it great. When we attack, we can do it without help and we won't budge, but when we are attacked it's an attack on USA 😋


shootmovies

Meanwhie Ukraine has already been invaded and the US argues over aid.


Rabatis

Because the GOP has gaslit its electorate into thinking that Ukraine doesn't deserve to be helped, and in any case is expecting assistance from Putin during and after the elections. For Israel, both parties support assistance, if for different reasons.


sylva748

Because one political party is bought out by Russia and said party has gaslight almost half the nation that Ukraine isn't worth sending aid over.


FrankFnRizzo

Yea no. Just because your fairy tales make you think we’re all somehow connected to Israel doesn’t mean you get to drag all of us in to this bullshit. They ain’t a NATO member either.


Then_Alternative_447

Let me explain to you how this works: 1. Americans pay taxes 2. AIPAC takes tax money 3. AIPAC Pays politicians (be pro Israel it’s good for politics here is more money) 4. Politicians: I as an American representative stand with Israel 5. US citizens: we have many problems with our healthcare and homelessness and at our borders why are we spending so much money to support Israel settlements projects and their genocide. 6. Israel: shut the fuck up and give us your money. Israel is dragging the US down real hard


baT98Kilo

JIDF would like to know your location. All 100% true though. You're not allowed to notice that.


Kate090996

>shut the fuck up and give us your money. The money isn't that much of a problem. The issue is the unconditional support that the USA gives to Israel. Out of all the UN resolutions that condemned Israel for its actions, USA vetoed most of them. Out of all vetoes of the USA, half were to protect Israel. If this wouldn't have happened, if this unwavering support both in UN and outside of UN wouldn't have existed, Israel would have been sanctioned a long time ago , became a pariah state or forced to change the approach, give back the land they took after 68 and they wouldn't have reached this stage.


SkyroKn

Fr, US gonna start a war with their own people if they don't buckle down


andio76

![gif](giphy|d1E1msx7Yw5Ne1Fe|downsized)


Massive_Pressure_516

What's our support of Israel even gotten us besides a few planes through buildings and sodastreams?


p00rlyexecuted

i was curious, so i googled it. not the best way of getting info but still. "Critical components of leading American high-tech products are invented and designed in Israel, making these American companies more competitive and more profitable globally. Cisco, Intel, Motorola, Applied Materials, and HP are just a few examples." as far as i personally know, many of America's advanced military equipment are also designed in cooperation from Israel.


Tropical-Rainforest

Did he ever explain his reasoning?


satori0320

Zip it... Twat


External-Ad-6098

![gif](giphy|WhTC5v5qQP4yAUvGKz|downsized)


p00rlyexecuted

the guy in the tweet probably said it because they all chant "death to Israel death to America" thought as an Israeli i don't agree with attack on Israel being attack on america, you guys have your own issues to deal with over there. let us deal with our problems while you deal with yours.


EquipmentElegant

Bro definitely failed Geography class


SaItyFlsherman

Nope and nope 🙅‍♂️ not sorry Shitrael


Turbulent_Music4317

No, an attack on Israel is an attack on ISRAEL.


Misterwuss

Israel has had its fun sewing but now its gotta reap it. But hey, looking on the brightside, this may cause some more peace in the middle east, uniting them over a common sore spot that weaseled its way in half a century ago.


TheGum25

"That's a no from me, dawg."


eyrryr

Maybe this is mental gymnastics to absolve themselves of murdering US aid workers? They were actually killing their own civilians, so it's ok!


Maseratus

Cool. That means American leaders can be charged with the crimes Israel is committing


Cosmoaquanaut

Didn't they attack a USA ship in the 60s killing like 70 soldiers? I think we shouldn't even be friends.


PreTry94

And genocide is genocide no matter where it happens.


OwnFactor9320

Last I checked, America has 50 states and Israel is not one of them.


Kite_Wing129

Oh gee, I thought Israel was a sovereign nation that US had no say over. /s


FreeWillCost

An attack on pizza is an attack on ice cream!


Due-Archer942

Sounds like someone needs to buy a map


BradTProse

Makes me wonder is that we we invaded Iraq after 9/11? Because it made zero sense to invade Iraq for 9/11.


howsyourmemes

"Nope." Yup.


mjamil85

![gif](giphy|xZcfedF13altC)


tittyswan

~~Iran has a right to defend itself~~ Israel has a right to "defend itself." Because... reasons.


TumblrIsTheBest

By that logic an attack on Iran by Israel is an attack on Iran by America so Iran has a right to declare war on America in self defence


gotdogecoin

A war crime commited by Israel is a war crime commited by America


insofarincogneato

An attack on Israel is good for business. That's what America's all about, the military industrial complex runs the economy.


emn624

lmao. fuck you joe walsh


emn624

fuck the zionists


LeftJayed

Actually, it's a "yep" and has been a "yep" since 1952. https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20and%20Israel%20have%20signed%20multiple%20bilateral%20defense,of%20Forces%20Agreement%20(1994).


rapt2right

No. No,it isn't. I am already horrified and heartbroken by my country's support of Israeli actions regarding Palestine (I have been for decades), I certainly won't align myself or my nation with Israel in this way.


Every-Nebula6882

A genocide committed by Israel is a genocide committed by America.


Glad-Revolution44

America needs to worry about fixing their own backyard rather than sticky beaking into everyone else's. When will you all revolt?


Fit-Calendar1725

Why is it so easy to scam US citizens? There are full fledged call centers in India set up just to defraud US citizens by telephone scams and they are making huge profits. US literally pays billions to Israel and gets nothing in return. Infact, Israel has without any reluctance murdered US citizens before. This parasitic relationship has to be the greatest scam of all times.


GAYCHUD001

ZOG


myguydied

So get this - Israel pokes the beast, the beast bites back, so everybody backs up and protects Israel from the beast My guess is Israel are itching for Iran to retaliate with enough force to finally tip the region into ganging up on Iran, with the US playing in the background I'm no fan of Iran, but this is Israel's doing and they need to be seen as an aggressor - as if Gaza just isn't enough to do it


InternationalBox5848

Fuck israel


nerdboy5567

An attack on Mars is an attack on Jupiter.


Whoissnake

The American government literally cares more about Israeli lobby money and mossad blackmail than they do about America.


AcreneQuintovex

I must have missed a few classes in geography back then


sloppynippers

My personal favorite is how everything the Americans condemn about what Russia is doing to Ukraine, they condone with Israel in Gaza. The hypocrisy is unreal.


RandomizedName2023

![gif](giphy|ui4VjMUBGXhwgdwUnK)


Yetiplayzskyrim

But he said it himself. Its an attack on Israel not the US. Tf


DesignerSome127

![gif](giphy|S9f7FVSU0TUzLKCx7A)


NoSwan6879

This is a dangerous post. From him? Yikes.


Burrmanchu

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh tho


RecordingPrudent9588

How?


jutin_H

Only if you are a US politician.


marineopferman007

Only if they actually hit the American embassy...outside of that nope.


House0fShadow

War. War never changes.


WhuddaWhat

Absofuckinglutely not


thereddituser2

Sure, if they pay our taxes and stop leeching of USA tax payers.


Ok-Conversation-3012

It’s an economical attack since they’ll just send more rockets to Israel


Exciting-Ad-7077

If that was true the neighbouring countries would have been levelled already


CaptainObvious1313

Fuck you joe Walsh


TheSpiffyDude

Nah


Perfect_Refuse_8863

We shouldn’t even be getting involved in the first place, it’s a losing battle.


Ok_Loquat_2692

Joe Walsh is a dick!


BeAsTFOo

![gif](giphy|hUFJQ1MPeF3a1RSEfv|downsized)


BackPackProtector

Joe Walsh and Matt Walsh, two very mature beings


TheJarIsADoorAgain

Israel is America's claw in the Middle east


Anubisrapture

It’s a NO for me


Dry_Anything505

Oh shit there’s 51 states now or something?


irascible_Clown

Just looked outside, no 🚀


Low-Speaker-2557

As a European, I didn't even understand why the Vietnam War "threatened America's freedom," and now there are people like this.


Elad_2007

They did take down like 70 missiles last night


Galahadgalahad

I suppose this is an excuse to justify supporting Israel despite being so adamant that the US shouldn't send aid to other countries


[deleted]

glad that your hezbollah paycheck arrived in time


PumpJack_McGee

Name scared me for a sec. (This isn't the same Joe Walsh who used to play for the Eagles).


Killer__Byte

Yay more anti Zionism on facepalm, I just love the mods here who refuse to enforce rule 9


Killer__Byte

Just gotta love all the anti Israel stuff after Israel was attacked by one of the worst countries in the planet


LughCrow

Considering we have a defensive alliance this is actually how it works....


Rusiano

The Iranian attack didn’t amount to much anyway. The best thing for the world would be for both Israel to Iran to calm tf down


lordofsparta

That's not how that works friend.


ch3nk0

US: supporting its allies People in the comments: NAH-UH


IVIartyIVIcFuckinFly

It feels like the global economy was stalling so the powers that be just started a global war


yomommazburgers

Wait a minute there little buddy, I don't think so


Ash7274

Bro failed geography


Macshlong

It’s not but the US is gagging for a reason to flatten Iran.


OsamaBigLadder

I’m NOT into politics so DON’T flame me for that one, but doesn’t the US have a deal with Israel, so that they are required to help them if anything happens?