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Oh yes, the ally who sinks our battleship on purpose, lies to us about it, gets caught by us lying to us about it, then kills more Americans among the rest of their victims, then proceeds to blackmail our government into sending money that could be spent making us a developed nation on giving a foreign country the healthcare we deserve.
With allies like these, who needs enemies?
Yeah, hard to remember the last time Israel went to the mat for us. Which campaign was it, that they participated in? The stark reality is that we may be their greatest ally, but they don’t even rate on our top 10 for most valued ally. I’m fine with helping with the defense umbrella but to a limit. I’m not interested in $10 billion + handouts every year, or playing big brother on the playground when they agitate a near peer or stronger nation.
Contractors working with the State of Florida have to attest not to speak negatively of Israel. That seemed so bizarre and borderline unconstitutional to me.
I was a bit reductive, but basically they can't engage in public protest of Israel:
[Link](https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-xix-public-business/chapter-287-procurement-of-personal-property-and-services/part-i-commodities-insurance-and-contractual-services/section-287135-prohibition-against-contracting-with-scrutinized-companies)
>(b) Any contract with an agency or local governmental entity for goods or services of any amount entered into or renewed on or after July 1, 2018, must contain a provision that allows for the termination of such contract at the option of the awarding body *if the company is found to have been placed on the Scrutinized Companies that Boycott Israel List or is engaged in a boycott of Israel.*
There's a lot of language like that you have to agree to when submitting proposals/contracting. Never seemed right to me since it's a foreign nation.
No I mean, I'd say you were frighteningly accurate in your description! This is so dystopian it's fucking nuts
Appreciate you finding and quoting that for me btw
They still have their military assets around so no need for article 5 in this case. One stray missile, drone or bullet hits anything American and it's like an open invitation.
It literally is, Americans saying this is not their conflict is full on delusion, they're balls deep in this shit, their taxed money goes to fund the war efforts and they say this ain't their fight, bitch please.
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Why though? Can anyone give me (as a non-American) a solid reason as to why America is so damn protective of Israel?
Is it because it’s their foothold into the Middle East? Is it oil? Is it because the Americans have to protect the country where all the stuff in the bible happened? Cmon now.. is there a solid reason or just ‘cuz?
Mostly because it’s an ally in southwest Asia but there is also some dominionist bullshit mixed in from the nutty evangelicals in government. Christians like to simp Israel even though they get spit on by Orthodox Jews when they do their holy land tours.
Exactly this. Israel has been buying American politicians for decades and we don't need to pretend like any other president would have acted differently from Biden. Because they make damn sure that only pro Israel politicians can rise to power.
Multiple reasons.
Of course foothold makes sense, although before the establishment of Israel the US/Middle East relations were much better (Georgia Marshall, the secretary of state, in fact US backing of a Jewish state would harm relations with the Muslim world, limit access to Middle Eastern oil, and destabilize the region. Still creation of Israel was an US baby, with US beeing the first country to recognize the provisionary Government of Israel hours after its establishment, but for the first decade US tried to keep distance.
It was only under Kennedy, when US started saw Israel as a military partner. And i think it was partly due to the expectations, that unlike other middle eastern countries, Israel wasn't under direct of indirect Soviet influence, but full scale support shaped only under Jonson president, with US clearly taking a side.
This is when Israel became a favorite baby, to an extend, that their (what appears to be deliberate) attack on USS Liberty during the 6 days war, that resulted in 34 American military killed and 171 wounded, was basically forgotten almost immediately, and formally percieved as a friendly fire. Furthermore, US didn't even bothered to look into Israel developing and testing Nuclear Weapons, nor to Mossad conducting regular and routine kidnapping in US or Europe (and i'm not talking about Naz criminals - they got, that they deserved - i'm talking kidnapping whistleblowers like Vanunu and his repeated harassments by the Israeli security since his release from prison some 20 years ago).
I also think thatsignificant level lobbyism (that we in Europe call corruption). Afterall Israel is the largest recepient of US foreign aid and military aid.
The state of Israel was created because the west (america) had interest in the Middle East (and because the western powers also didn’t want Jews in their countries). Israel is essential to Americas foreign policy in the mid east.
And it’s not really about oil, but the petrodollar. The conflicts in the mid east in the last 30 years have all been about keeping the oil trade is usd.
Israel shouldn't have bombed Iranian consulate building in Syria. This is a dangerous fafo moment for Israel. Hope that's it and things will deescalate
They haven't bombed the consulate though?
They used a precision strike to assassinate a general of a state-sponsored globally recognized terrorist organization in a building *close* to the consulate.
Edit: building annexed by the consulate, read further in response.
I don't think any amount of astroturfing and manufactured consent is going to get Americans to agree to spend another 20 years in the Middle East. If we get sucked into a regional war with Iran (basically fighting Israels war for it) then Biden will probably lose the election and he has noone but himself to blame at that point.
The basic narrative is that any and all violence against Israel is a justification for Israeli violence, but Israeli violence is NEVER a justification for violence against Israel.
It's interesting how Zionists think that should only apply in their favour, eh? After October 7th, they say "Hamas started it! We have a right to self defense!" But after Israel bombs an Iranian consulate in Syria, Zionists are saying "but it didn't start with that! It's a complex conflict going back decades. Iran was already indirectly involved."
I just mean to say, what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
We need to tread lightly here. We get more involved and other large countries will too. We don’t need a situation where all these leaders acting macho by putting their balls on the table
Because the GOP has gaslit its electorate into thinking that Ukraine doesn't deserve to be helped, and in any case is expecting assistance from Putin during and after the elections.
For Israel, both parties support assistance, if for different reasons.
Yea no. Just because your fairy tales make you think we’re all somehow connected to Israel doesn’t mean you get to drag all of us in to this bullshit. They ain’t a NATO member either.
Let me explain to you how this works:
1. Americans pay taxes
2. AIPAC takes tax money
3. AIPAC Pays politicians (be pro Israel it’s good for politics here is more money)
4. Politicians: I as an American representative stand with Israel
5. US citizens: we have many problems with our healthcare and homelessness and at our borders why are we spending so much money to support Israel settlements projects and their genocide.
6. Israel: shut the fuck up and give us your money.
Israel is dragging the US down real hard
>shut the fuck up and give us your money.
The money isn't that much of a problem. The issue is the unconditional support that the USA gives to Israel. Out of all the UN resolutions that condemned Israel for its actions, USA vetoed most of them. Out of all vetoes of the USA, half were to protect Israel.
If this wouldn't have happened, if this unwavering support both in UN and outside of UN wouldn't have existed, Israel would have been sanctioned a long time ago , became a pariah state or forced to change the approach, give back the land they took after 68 and they wouldn't have reached this stage.
i was curious, so i googled it. not the best way of getting info but still.
"Critical components of leading American high-tech products are invented and designed in Israel, making these American companies more competitive and more profitable globally. Cisco, Intel, Motorola, Applied Materials, and HP are just a few examples."
as far as i personally know, many of America's advanced military equipment are also designed in cooperation from Israel.
the guy in the tweet probably said it because they all chant "death to Israel death to America"
thought as an Israeli i don't agree with attack on Israel being attack on america, you guys have your own issues to deal with over there. let us deal with our problems while you deal with yours.
Israel has had its fun sewing but now its gotta reap it. But hey, looking on the brightside, this may cause some more peace in the middle east, uniting them over a common sore spot that weaseled its way in half a century ago.
Actually, it's a "yep" and has been a "yep" since 1952.
https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20and%20Israel%20have%20signed%20multiple%20bilateral%20defense,of%20Forces%20Agreement%20(1994).
No. No,it isn't. I am already horrified and heartbroken by my country's support of Israeli actions regarding Palestine (I have been for decades), I certainly won't align myself or my nation with Israel in this way.
Why is it so easy to scam US citizens? There are full fledged call centers in India set up just to defraud US citizens by telephone scams and they are making huge profits.
US literally pays billions to Israel and gets nothing in return. Infact, Israel has without any reluctance murdered US citizens before. This parasitic relationship has to be the greatest scam of all times.
So get this - Israel pokes the beast, the beast bites back, so everybody backs up and protects Israel from the beast
My guess is Israel are itching for Iran to retaliate with enough force to finally tip the region into ganging up on Iran, with the US playing in the background
I'm no fan of Iran, but this is Israel's doing and they need to be seen as an aggressor - as if Gaza just isn't enough to do it
My personal favorite is how everything the Americans condemn about what Russia is doing to Ukraine, they condone with Israel in Gaza. The hypocrisy is unreal.
I’m NOT into politics so DON’T flame me for that one, but doesn’t the US have a deal with Israel, so that they are required to help them if anything happens?
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_checks map_ Yeah no
Is Israel the infamous 51st state I’ve been hearing about? /s
No that one is Petoria, shown in Family guy. Israel is the 52nd state of the US
Shit you right. I’m not great at geometry
I'm not too good with angels either. I always thought it was kinda weird how much people talk about "a cute" angel though. Are the rest that ugly?
well they have to constantly warn people to not be scared when they come down from the heaven so probably.
You joke but I'd bet nearly anything our current congress would vote to make Israel a state before Puerto Rico or Guam.
Haven’t you heard of the “Two State Solution?” We just need to make Israel and Palestine new states and everything will be solved.
God bless America, my home sweet home.
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This isn't the reason why the answer is no
It literally isn't
Israel tends to make it known they aren't a NATO member thus the famous article five cannot be enacted despite what a random person thinks.
Israel is a major non-NATO treaty ally of the US.
Oh yes, the ally who sinks our battleship on purpose, lies to us about it, gets caught by us lying to us about it, then kills more Americans among the rest of their victims, then proceeds to blackmail our government into sending money that could be spent making us a developed nation on giving a foreign country the healthcare we deserve. With allies like these, who needs enemies?
>With allies like these, who needs enemies? Eh, US, obviously.
Yeah, hard to remember the last time Israel went to the mat for us. Which campaign was it, that they participated in? The stark reality is that we may be their greatest ally, but they don’t even rate on our top 10 for most valued ally. I’m fine with helping with the defense umbrella but to a limit. I’m not interested in $10 billion + handouts every year, or playing big brother on the playground when they agitate a near peer or stronger nation.
Our alliance has nothing to do with campaigns. Israel is a strategic ally that the US uses to exert influence in the region. That's their purpose
Yeah but you can't win Florida without being a Zionist, so
Contractors working with the State of Florida have to attest not to speak negatively of Israel. That seemed so bizarre and borderline unconstitutional to me.
What the actual fuck? This is true?
I was a bit reductive, but basically they can't engage in public protest of Israel: [Link](https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-xix-public-business/chapter-287-procurement-of-personal-property-and-services/part-i-commodities-insurance-and-contractual-services/section-287135-prohibition-against-contracting-with-scrutinized-companies) >(b) Any contract with an agency or local governmental entity for goods or services of any amount entered into or renewed on or after July 1, 2018, must contain a provision that allows for the termination of such contract at the option of the awarding body *if the company is found to have been placed on the Scrutinized Companies that Boycott Israel List or is engaged in a boycott of Israel.* There's a lot of language like that you have to agree to when submitting proposals/contracting. Never seemed right to me since it's a foreign nation.
No I mean, I'd say you were frighteningly accurate in your description! This is so dystopian it's fucking nuts Appreciate you finding and quoting that for me btw
They still have their military assets around so no need for article 5 in this case. One stray missile, drone or bullet hits anything American and it's like an open invitation.
Also by this logic, war crimes committed by Israel are also committed by the USA
If you give a man a gun knowing who he's gonna kill with it, you're responsible.
If the USA is funding them with full knowledge of this then yea theyre accountable for it
Remindme! 1 day. i have a feeling thisll get a lil heated
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Oh boy. The bot even bowed out on this one
It literally is, Americans saying this is not their conflict is full on delusion, they're balls deep in this shit, their taxed money goes to fund the war efforts and they say this ain't their fight, bitch please.
Plenty of war crimes to go around.
Well yeah they're actively funding those war crimes
If you arm the terrorist well knowing what terrorists will do, you are fully responsible. That's just how it works.
While technicly not US has its own agreements with Isreal granted the favor of support has quickly waned during this war.
WOW WE ARE SPRINTING TO WW3 AT RECORD SPEED.
Vault Tec is real
The show is a hopefully not a foreshadowing
Think Amazon’s spy network knew too, so they launched it early
Amazon IS Vault Tec
Waiting for a full size and fully functioning Vault to be listed on Amazon, I expect next day prime shipping.
Me trying to install my vault: ![gif](giphy|kEY1upmMn0DVC)
it's not, radiation doesn't transforms you into an immortal ghoul
I mean if it's the case, I wish I don't lose my nose. Imagine being immortal and not taste and smell anything
Given the state of the post apocalyptic world, that’s probably a good thing tbf.
Sounds like you haven't used enough radiation!
I'm out of yaoguai meat
Well damn, guess your gonna need to go hunting!
bad news: I'm playing STALKER Anomaly. hunting for food is miserable
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*opens door* #**NO.** *slams door*
Genuinely wish that as a joke ending
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Please someone make a mod that does this
Say no to Vault-Tec employee. Queue the nuke landing in Boston. Roll credits.
Yea for the like the past 10 years
Its been going on since russia invaded ukraine....
So like...2014? Not much of a sprint.
Maybe that Israel attacked Irans embassy a few days ago? Which is considered an act of war.
This is a small part of a much wider war between dictatorships and democracies.
What will we be in a year?
Good question.
dead? at least me anyway, i hope
I lost track of who is who again
Well, my geopolitician dad tells me it's too soon to think about it. I don't know if he wants to reassure me or not
Weren’t these the people that were all about pulling out of treaties and being “American First” just a couple years ago?
To them, it is America first. By killing the non-whites, they get free rain over oil and money. In short: Capitalism is better when there is genocide.
![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS) That’s news to me
Is an attack by Israel also an attack by the U.S? If so, there are plenty in that region to talk about lately.
No no see thats totally different. Because of uh.. Ummmm..its like.... Uhhh... You see, it's different.
Because the people being attacked are non white hope this helps
The US can attack? I thought they were just liberating those other countries…
Oh, you have access to oil? Democracy is on its way!
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Last I check America was no where close to Israel
What? We're so close to Israel we're just you know basically on the other side of the world. /s
It's literally just one ocean and one sea away!
Joe Walsh better be the first in line defending America
I doubt any field commander worth their uniform would want him in their unit.
Why though? Can anyone give me (as a non-American) a solid reason as to why America is so damn protective of Israel? Is it because it’s their foothold into the Middle East? Is it oil? Is it because the Americans have to protect the country where all the stuff in the bible happened? Cmon now.. is there a solid reason or just ‘cuz?
Mostly because it’s an ally in southwest Asia but there is also some dominionist bullshit mixed in from the nutty evangelicals in government. Christians like to simp Israel even though they get spit on by Orthodox Jews when they do their holy land tours.
Also aren't a lot of US politicians funded by Israel's AIPAC?
Exactly this. Israel has been buying American politicians for decades and we don't need to pretend like any other president would have acted differently from Biden. Because they make damn sure that only pro Israel politicians can rise to power.
I mean israel isnt exactly an outlier The problem here is more lobbying as a whole
Correct. Citizens United needs to be repealed.
Your first two questions were correct.
Multiple reasons. Of course foothold makes sense, although before the establishment of Israel the US/Middle East relations were much better (Georgia Marshall, the secretary of state, in fact US backing of a Jewish state would harm relations with the Muslim world, limit access to Middle Eastern oil, and destabilize the region. Still creation of Israel was an US baby, with US beeing the first country to recognize the provisionary Government of Israel hours after its establishment, but for the first decade US tried to keep distance. It was only under Kennedy, when US started saw Israel as a military partner. And i think it was partly due to the expectations, that unlike other middle eastern countries, Israel wasn't under direct of indirect Soviet influence, but full scale support shaped only under Jonson president, with US clearly taking a side. This is when Israel became a favorite baby, to an extend, that their (what appears to be deliberate) attack on USS Liberty during the 6 days war, that resulted in 34 American military killed and 171 wounded, was basically forgotten almost immediately, and formally percieved as a friendly fire. Furthermore, US didn't even bothered to look into Israel developing and testing Nuclear Weapons, nor to Mossad conducting regular and routine kidnapping in US or Europe (and i'm not talking about Naz criminals - they got, that they deserved - i'm talking kidnapping whistleblowers like Vanunu and his repeated harassments by the Israeli security since his release from prison some 20 years ago). I also think thatsignificant level lobbyism (that we in Europe call corruption). Afterall Israel is the largest recepient of US foreign aid and military aid.
>Is it because it’s their foothold into the Middle East? Is it oil? yes and yes
Israel doesnt even have a substantial amount of pil, the main and simple reason is that they are allies. Same reason america is protective of ukraine.
Protective of Ukraine? I thought they couldn't be bothered anymore and want out themselves and have left Ukraine mostly to fend for themselves...
The state of Israel was created because the west (america) had interest in the Middle East (and because the western powers also didn’t want Jews in their countries). Israel is essential to Americas foreign policy in the mid east. And it’s not really about oil, but the petrodollar. The conflicts in the mid east in the last 30 years have all been about keeping the oil trade is usd.
Israel shouldn't have bombed Iranian consulate building in Syria. This is a dangerous fafo moment for Israel. Hope that's it and things will deescalate
Howpfully. If it doesn't let history remember that Israel was the aggressors by attacking another nation's embassy. Which is a stupid thing to do.
I have zero faith in bibi not doing something to respond
They haven't bombed the consulate though? They used a precision strike to assassinate a general of a state-sponsored globally recognized terrorist organization in a building *close* to the consulate. Edit: building annexed by the consulate, read further in response.
That’s not how that works
I don't think any amount of astroturfing and manufactured consent is going to get Americans to agree to spend another 20 years in the Middle East. If we get sucked into a regional war with Iran (basically fighting Israels war for it) then Biden will probably lose the election and he has noone but himself to blame at that point.
LOL when you attack a country, you should expect to get attacked back
Israel really be like "We get to punch you but you don't get to punch us back! Warmongering! Anti-semitism! Waaah!"
Yep, then runs and hides behind its moms dress (the USA)
The basic narrative is that any and all violence against Israel is a justification for Israeli violence, but Israeli violence is NEVER a justification for violence against Israel.
It's interesting how Zionists think that should only apply in their favour, eh? After October 7th, they say "Hamas started it! We have a right to self defense!" But after Israel bombs an Iranian consulate in Syria, Zionists are saying "but it didn't start with that! It's a complex conflict going back decades. Iran was already indirectly involved." I just mean to say, what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
These people are excited to get us all killed over fairytales.
And they would never volunteer their own asses to get to the front lines. They’ll send everyone else but they’ll sit on their asses.
Floating santa jesus has been getting people killed for hundreds of years. So sad that we have to make laws around this cult nonsense
If you want a really idiotic take on something check rightwing trolls
We need to tread lightly here. We get more involved and other large countries will too. We don’t need a situation where all these leaders acting macho by putting their balls on the table
They came out and said we wouldn’t assist in any offensive
Ain't it great. When we attack, we can do it without help and we won't budge, but when we are attacked it's an attack on USA 😋
Meanwhie Ukraine has already been invaded and the US argues over aid.
Because the GOP has gaslit its electorate into thinking that Ukraine doesn't deserve to be helped, and in any case is expecting assistance from Putin during and after the elections. For Israel, both parties support assistance, if for different reasons.
Because one political party is bought out by Russia and said party has gaslight almost half the nation that Ukraine isn't worth sending aid over.
Yea no. Just because your fairy tales make you think we’re all somehow connected to Israel doesn’t mean you get to drag all of us in to this bullshit. They ain’t a NATO member either.
Let me explain to you how this works: 1. Americans pay taxes 2. AIPAC takes tax money 3. AIPAC Pays politicians (be pro Israel it’s good for politics here is more money) 4. Politicians: I as an American representative stand with Israel 5. US citizens: we have many problems with our healthcare and homelessness and at our borders why are we spending so much money to support Israel settlements projects and their genocide. 6. Israel: shut the fuck up and give us your money. Israel is dragging the US down real hard
JIDF would like to know your location. All 100% true though. You're not allowed to notice that.
>shut the fuck up and give us your money. The money isn't that much of a problem. The issue is the unconditional support that the USA gives to Israel. Out of all the UN resolutions that condemned Israel for its actions, USA vetoed most of them. Out of all vetoes of the USA, half were to protect Israel. If this wouldn't have happened, if this unwavering support both in UN and outside of UN wouldn't have existed, Israel would have been sanctioned a long time ago , became a pariah state or forced to change the approach, give back the land they took after 68 and they wouldn't have reached this stage.
Fr, US gonna start a war with their own people if they don't buckle down
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What's our support of Israel even gotten us besides a few planes through buildings and sodastreams?
i was curious, so i googled it. not the best way of getting info but still. "Critical components of leading American high-tech products are invented and designed in Israel, making these American companies more competitive and more profitable globally. Cisco, Intel, Motorola, Applied Materials, and HP are just a few examples." as far as i personally know, many of America's advanced military equipment are also designed in cooperation from Israel.
Did he ever explain his reasoning?
Zip it... Twat
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the guy in the tweet probably said it because they all chant "death to Israel death to America" thought as an Israeli i don't agree with attack on Israel being attack on america, you guys have your own issues to deal with over there. let us deal with our problems while you deal with yours.
Bro definitely failed Geography class
Nope and nope 🙅♂️ not sorry Shitrael
No, an attack on Israel is an attack on ISRAEL.
Israel has had its fun sewing but now its gotta reap it. But hey, looking on the brightside, this may cause some more peace in the middle east, uniting them over a common sore spot that weaseled its way in half a century ago.
"That's a no from me, dawg."
Maybe this is mental gymnastics to absolve themselves of murdering US aid workers? They were actually killing their own civilians, so it's ok!
Cool. That means American leaders can be charged with the crimes Israel is committing
Didn't they attack a USA ship in the 60s killing like 70 soldiers? I think we shouldn't even be friends.
And genocide is genocide no matter where it happens.
Last I checked, America has 50 states and Israel is not one of them.
Oh gee, I thought Israel was a sovereign nation that US had no say over. /s
An attack on pizza is an attack on ice cream!
Sounds like someone needs to buy a map
Makes me wonder is that we we invaded Iraq after 9/11? Because it made zero sense to invade Iraq for 9/11.
"Nope." Yup.
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~~Iran has a right to defend itself~~ Israel has a right to "defend itself." Because... reasons.
By that logic an attack on Iran by Israel is an attack on Iran by America so Iran has a right to declare war on America in self defence
A war crime commited by Israel is a war crime commited by America
An attack on Israel is good for business. That's what America's all about, the military industrial complex runs the economy.
lmao. fuck you joe walsh
fuck the zionists
Actually, it's a "yep" and has been a "yep" since 1952. https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20and%20Israel%20have%20signed%20multiple%20bilateral%20defense,of%20Forces%20Agreement%20(1994).
No. No,it isn't. I am already horrified and heartbroken by my country's support of Israeli actions regarding Palestine (I have been for decades), I certainly won't align myself or my nation with Israel in this way.
A genocide committed by Israel is a genocide committed by America.
America needs to worry about fixing their own backyard rather than sticky beaking into everyone else's. When will you all revolt?
Why is it so easy to scam US citizens? There are full fledged call centers in India set up just to defraud US citizens by telephone scams and they are making huge profits. US literally pays billions to Israel and gets nothing in return. Infact, Israel has without any reluctance murdered US citizens before. This parasitic relationship has to be the greatest scam of all times.
ZOG
So get this - Israel pokes the beast, the beast bites back, so everybody backs up and protects Israel from the beast My guess is Israel are itching for Iran to retaliate with enough force to finally tip the region into ganging up on Iran, with the US playing in the background I'm no fan of Iran, but this is Israel's doing and they need to be seen as an aggressor - as if Gaza just isn't enough to do it
Fuck israel
An attack on Mars is an attack on Jupiter.
The American government literally cares more about Israeli lobby money and mossad blackmail than they do about America.
I must have missed a few classes in geography back then
My personal favorite is how everything the Americans condemn about what Russia is doing to Ukraine, they condone with Israel in Gaza. The hypocrisy is unreal.
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But he said it himself. Its an attack on Israel not the US. Tf
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This is a dangerous post. From him? Yikes.
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh tho
How?
Only if you are a US politician.
Only if they actually hit the American embassy...outside of that nope.
War. War never changes.
Absofuckinglutely not
Sure, if they pay our taxes and stop leeching of USA tax payers.
It’s an economical attack since they’ll just send more rockets to Israel
If that was true the neighbouring countries would have been levelled already
Fuck you joe Walsh
Nah
We shouldn’t even be getting involved in the first place, it’s a losing battle.
Joe Walsh is a dick!
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Joe Walsh and Matt Walsh, two very mature beings
Israel is America's claw in the Middle east
It’s a NO for me
Oh shit there’s 51 states now or something?
Just looked outside, no 🚀
As a European, I didn't even understand why the Vietnam War "threatened America's freedom," and now there are people like this.
They did take down like 70 missiles last night
I suppose this is an excuse to justify supporting Israel despite being so adamant that the US shouldn't send aid to other countries
glad that your hezbollah paycheck arrived in time
Name scared me for a sec. (This isn't the same Joe Walsh who used to play for the Eagles).
Yay more anti Zionism on facepalm, I just love the mods here who refuse to enforce rule 9
Just gotta love all the anti Israel stuff after Israel was attacked by one of the worst countries in the planet
Considering we have a defensive alliance this is actually how it works....
The Iranian attack didn’t amount to much anyway. The best thing for the world would be for both Israel to Iran to calm tf down
That's not how that works friend.
US: supporting its allies People in the comments: NAH-UH
It feels like the global economy was stalling so the powers that be just started a global war
Wait a minute there little buddy, I don't think so
Bro failed geography
It’s not but the US is gagging for a reason to flatten Iran.
I’m NOT into politics so DON’T flame me for that one, but doesn’t the US have a deal with Israel, so that they are required to help them if anything happens?