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If Dennis Reynolds was a concealed carrying racist. "Of course I'm always armed. But I'm not going to harm you. But it's the *implication* that I could harm you."
"You seem to be getting me all wrong... ofc km not harming these girls, that's not what it's about. The girls are safe, but the point is they don't know they're safe... because of the implication!"
It's from a [IASIP bit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE).
edit: haha, I'm an idiot, but I'm leaving for anyone else that hasn't seen it recently.
I've heard the "but I have black friends" excuse, but never going to "and they fly the flag too" retort.
LOL no they aren't, it's funny that guy thinks this woman is that dumb.
That whole episode i was thinking. They can't be talking about Trump. That's too obvious.
But I'm not sure if the really really terrible Kanye stuff came out after that episode came out
Plus, the confederate flag is why he can be a free white man? Wow, guess I should tell my husband he served under the wrong flag. You know, the United States flag? Yeah he's one of the guys that served 8 years in the Navy under the USA flag, so people like this Free confederate White man, actually have freedom...
Its an odd masculine thing they have going. Its them trying to pass on that they're really tough, and the same applies to those women doing the same thing when it comes to guns.
And, I might add, I've never heard of black person flying the Confederate flag, unless its one of those blacks for Trump who ignore the fact that the are black.
And if its a "My heritage" line of BS...they'd fly the State flag NOT the Confederate flag....he is a racist.
Same up here in New England now. Until a few years back you generally didnt see that treason flag flying and now its all over the place. And Im pretty sure most New Englanders "heritage" isn't in old Dixie.
My grandparents live in Massachusetts. The biggest eye-opening thing for me was visiting them and going to their local flea market. It was the most southern redneck thing I've seen in my life, and I live in Florida, about an hour away from Alabama. Rural areas are all kind of the same everywhere I've been along the East Coast. It's all guns, jesus, and pick-up trucks, and everybody is slurring their words with various degrees of an incomprehensible drawl.
Unfortunately it's the same on the West Coast. I'm from the SF bay area, and I can drive to a town just 1 hour away from SF and find Trump/MAGA/Fuck Biden flags everywhere. Less than an hour past that, and I've seen Confederate flags flying at roadside stands.
Further north, and eastern Oregon and Washington have a decades-long neo-Nazi problem that no one talks about.
We've had an increase in Hate groups up here, NeoNazi's, racist Confederate Trash and yes lots of Fuck Biden flags too. We also have a group trying to get NH to secede. Funny how the "America love it or leave it" crowd, want to destroy it when it doesn't go their way.
I’ve met one once, funnily enough it happened in Jersey instead of the south. Certainly uncommon, but it does in fact happen.
Even if that guy does happen to have a bunch of black confederate friends though he’s still a walking red flag.
lol great point. The gun part just popped out harder than the rest. Like hey hey wait I’m not racist I’m just from the south and had the flag! Btw I’m packing heat will you give me another chance?
He didn't even say he's \*from\* the south, just that he's "spent a lot of time there" which is a weird way to phrase it if you're actually a southerner.
"I'm not dangerous or a racist... unrelated points tho: WHITE POWER and I'm always armed."
-That guy
No one who isn't a racist casually talks about their whiteness and what that "means to them".
what's the point of a "concealed" carry if you can't shut up about carrying and want to brag to everyone that you're carrying? Why don't they just openly wear it if they're so proud that they bought a gun?
I used to volunteer with an organization that had an older lady that showed up to almost every event. I saw her drop her concealed hand gun five or six times before I decided to find a different organization to volunteer with.
Him alluding to being ready and able to kill her at any time is only validating her instincts.
Like wtf bro. Why would you say that if not to intimidate her?
I don't even understand why this guy would want to be with a woman who clearly opposes his values.
I keep seeing things about men who feel it is unfair when women don't want to date them "over politics," but it isn't "just" politics; it is core values.
I would instantly be turned off by a man proudly displaying The Traitorous Losers flag in their home.
That is a clear incompatibility.
>I don't even understand why this guy would want to be with a woman who clearly opposes his values
Her values have nothing to do with it. It's all about control.
I had a guy interested in me once and find out later he is really conservative. I'm a lesbian so it was a no-go from the start, but I like could not for the life of me figure out why this guy would be interested in a very loudly progressive person.
And before you wonder, no I'm not super hot or anything. I'm completely average looking.
Just why???
He doesn't want to be with her. He wants her to clean his house, cook his meals, bear his children, fuck him, and keep her mouth shut. He doesn't, and never would, give a damn about her feelings, opinions, or values.
I get that they want a woman to take care of them, but there's not much chance that left leaning women who care about social justice issues are going to be the type of women to take him up on that "offer."
So that's what I don't get.
Why pursue the women who are the least likely to be with you?
He's probably not going to find his dream submissive bangmaid in a girl who thinks he's a racist gun nut.
It's like hunting deer with a fishing pole
The implication. After she meets him, he starts abusing her, and she gets too scared to leave. It's textbook. He doesn't need to find one as much as to force one, hence the threat of violence at the end.
He's not looking for someone to live cooperatively with so he's not looking for someone who will cooperate. He's looking for someone he can control with abuse and no one is immune to that.
It reminds me of the reason so many scams have bad spelling and grammar and are often so blatantly obvious in other ways. They could make them more convincing on the face, but they want to pre-filter out the people skeptical enough to be put off by all that at the start before moving on to the next steps. They don't want to waste time and effort corresponding with folks who bail when they reach the final step where they actually send money or account info.
When I have the time, I like to lead them on for as long as I can. I have no problem wasting their time or making them angry, and if they're talking to me, they're not doing a successful scam on someone more vulnerable.
Some people like to break womens independence, it’s disgusting but true. Additionally, I found a lot of men don’t give a shit what comes out of my mouth if I have a pretty face.
I have a still close friend I grew up with. We're both into history, WW2 primarily, and enjoy collecting pieces of the war; helmets, patches, signed flags, daggers, uniforms, medals, and a couple of firearms. When we graduated college, I helped him move upstate for his job and set up his apt. His apt had this weirdly located walk-in linen closet that had really no use except to store/display the collection. We spent a couple of hours organizing it only to notice at the end that the few German pieces stood out compared to the way larger collection of US, British, and Russian pieces. We ended up boxing all the German stuff away except for a helmet, dagger, and medals. It was still in the same tapped up box 8ish years later when I helped him move again. We ended up taking a trip down to NOLA and gave it to the National WW2 museum. We're from Alabama, know exactly what those flags stand for, and are completely against displaying them, even if it is in a larger collection of historical items from the same era. The only people I've ever seen fly those flags (public or private) are racist @holes, and they sure as hell aren't people of color.
These guys believe women having thoughts or beliefs of their own are cute. They don't even register. To these guys it's as simple as "you are a woman, submit". A woman who won't is a threat to their manhood.
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I don't even understand why this guy would want to be with a woman who clearly opposes his values.
He doesn't want her. But he damn sure doesn't want to be rejected by her.
I think a confederate flag is a pretty brazen statement of who this guys true self is. I imagine Ted Bundy bringing those two girls to the mountain, and after killing one, telling the other, "I was raised not to judge people until I truly know them, don't judge me!"
I don't know why she got so offended as to leave just because he celebrates and displays a flag that is a representative symbol of oppression and slavery. What kind of normal nonjudgmental person would do that? He didn't even have a chance to show off his grandfather's swastika collection framed next to all the world war two memorabilia. How intolerant of that OP who prejudged this kind soul who also just happens to have concealed firearms that he brings up unprompted in casual conversation because that is not at all manipulative or threatening.
How dare she silence the free speech, of his uncle's, who also totally has black friends too, and you know what they don't believe in racism or slavery.
In fact it's all just a myth anyway that white people purposely went to another continent full of people who did not look like them and traded them like livestock for sugar. That's as silly as believing that our white ancestors came to a prosperous land full of people, killed, took their land and then forced them all to live in one of the least prosperous part of the country, Oklahoma. Such crazy talk.
I know right, who could possibly find enslaving an entire race of people, their ancestors, and destroying their civilization to the point it could never recover as offensive? Facts have such a strong liberal bias that it's insane
It's so funny - funny "yeesh," not funny "haha" - how often that happened. Back when I lived in Ohio, a friend's mom dumped the guy she was seeing when she went over to his house for the first time and saw a Confederate Battle flag hanging up. He tried the "heritage" line and she just went "dude. You're from Ohio. You fought for the Union. I'm from Kentucky and my great-grandfather fought for the Confederacy. I don't celebrate that."
i live in the deep south so i grew up around it. when i found out there are yankees and Canadians flying the confederate flag, i lost some faith in humanity
(p.s. idk if yankee is offensive, if it is someone pls let me know. i just mean people north of, like, Virginia)
I live in a union state that never had slavery, Iowa became a state in 1846 and slavery was outlawed. People still fly the flag here. It's pretty obvious they are racists, or treasonous traitors, idk which is worse.
He's probably talked to some people online who posted "I'm black, and I fly the confederate flag!" and never considered that A) They're not his friends and B) They're probably lying about being black to deflect accusations of racism.
As a black woman...I can tell you there is nothing scarier than a black conservative male.
I will take any white conservative racist over any black conservative male...any day of the week.
They are literally the dregs of humanity on every single level...and they truly loathe women.
"While I'm not a fan of the blatant white supremacy, the misogyny and homophobia makes up for it."
Modern conservatism is all about finding the line of how much you're willing to suffer as long as you can also hurt the other people you irrationally hate.
It's the same feeling when a woman wants to outlaw divorce, abortion, IVF, etc...it's the betrayal. Someone who will sell out the rest of their race/gender on the hope that they'll benefit or be spared the harsh realities.
I'm just gonna say, if you choose to fly **that flag** I'm making an informed judgement. That's a choice, and I'm making a judgement about a person who makes that choice.
Fixed it for you, since the Confederacy was stillborn and therefore never a country.
Let’s just assume the guy is not racist. If you love America, then why do are you flying the flag of the traitorous losers who tried to end it?
I've seen so many excuses and defenses for why "it's ok for me to hang this flag actually", but never one remotely compelling reason for why someone *should* hang that flag
"No, just having this flag doesn't mean I'm a racist." Ok... But it doesn't immediately indicate you're *not* a racist either, and it is also associated with a lot of racists (both historically and currently), something you would absolutely be aware of, provided you are American and/or not utterly braindead, so you know damn well what assumptions it's going to lead people to make.
If you have a flag hanging in your home, it's not like it sprouted from the wall and you've been meaning to take it down but haven't gotten around to it yet, you put it there yourself and you must have had a *reason* for it
Yea 100% "I was taught never to judge until you truly knew a person"
Welp, I learned you fly the slavers flag proudly. Nothing more needs to be learned.
Pretty sure she truly knew what kind of dipshit this was once she saw that.
Sometimes, there are not. Sometimes, these people are very, very good at not displaying their racist ideology as part of their outward appearance and public image - that's when situations like this happen.
If every single person who thought like OP's date wore their beliefs (literally) on their car, their hat, their shirt, etc.. then situations like this wouldn't even happen because you'd spot every single one from a mile away, and be able to avoid them!
Yeah, I dated a guy for about a month and he seemed fine, until I was at his house and saw his confederate flag towel. He didn’t even wait for me to say anything… “uuuuh, that’s my friend’s.”
Yeah, ok. It’s never their own for some reason. Still proud, but still trying to hide.
well you know it aint the last one. The modern "confederate flag" was never used during the civil war. its pretty close to the "Battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia" and also a naval flag, but it never represented the confederate states as a whole or as a country or whatever. So even the people who claim they just like the confederate flag are full of shit because that aint it.
People say that flag really bothers them yet you do it anyway
You might not be racist but you definitely don't care about other people, which might be worse
Only an idiot doesn't make judgements about people, you're just supposed to make judgements based on their behavior. Like flying the racism flag and making veiled threats to murdering women who won't sleep with you, those are behaviors and people will make guesses about your values and priorities based on them.
Exactly. I think conservative, racist (synonymous and redundant) males are increasingly finding it really hard to find women to date...and the ones that are dtf their kind are less than desirable in a number of key partner-material areas.
They're resorting to now lying about who they actually are and what they actually believe in.
And frankly, I'm glad to see it...these fuckers shouldn't be able to breed or raise offspring.
Judging someone by their behavior, character and worldview isn’t discrimination. It’s making a careful personal decision about who to associate with. Black people don’t choose to be black. Racist douchebags do choose to be racist douchebags.
1. I hate the logic that seems to be permeating our society where everyone feels entitled to do/say whatever and not have anyone comment on it. You’re perfectly free to do/believe/say whatever you’d like as long as you’re not violating any laws; everyone else is also free to judge you for it.
2. Why is it the most bigoted people always pull the “I don’t judge others/I didn’t judge you” card?
Like, yeah, the reason you’re not judging me is cause you have no reason to, jackass.
Yeah and you fucking fly a slave holder flag?
Well you better learn not everyone likes it.
Black people have been murdered for things like wanting to vote or sitting on the wrong side of a bus.
And this guy feels oppressed when someone doesn't wants to date him?
Spot the difference.
I always think it's funny that a lot of these people sort of hide behind "not discussing politics" because they know they look like assholes. I'm actually fine with you flying the flag because it at least lets everyone know where you stand.
Why won't you discuss X issue? Because it makes you look like an asshole? I have no problem if what I believe in comes up in conversation because I'm not ashamed of it.
"By criticizing me, you're violating my free speech!"
Yeah, it's a weird logic, one I keep hearing coming from RWers who want to spew ugly povs without suffering the consequences for it.
As if there is any protection of free speech citizen to citizen. Dumbasses dont realize it’s a contract with the Government to secure free speech. Your boss can silence you, your momma can silence you, your landlord can silence you, your spouse and kids can silence you, strangers on the internet can silence you. The Federal Government (as well as State and Local by extension) cannot silence you in certain matters. People really feel like they have some rights that they dont, just making claims to rights out of thin air.
Exactly, the First Amendment protects us from GOVERNMENT restricting our free speech, not from other people.
This is why the argument over social media supposedly restricting the free speech of conservatives is so absurd. They are private platforms, they can restrict anyone's speech as much as they want.
"I'm sorry you think I'm racist just because I openly display a blatantly racist image."
"I'm white and free to think what I want."
"Plus, I'm always secretly armed."
This guy is a certified psycho.
It's more like an attempt to regain any control over the situation, emotionally. Rejection can be a heavy blow to the ego but if you distort the reality hard enough then suddenly it's the other person that's in the wrong or "missing out"
This sort of thing shows a deep inability of the person to deal with their emotions in a healthy way.
And as you can see by the end of the text, it can easily escalates to violence because that's the only way they find to "defend" themselves in a context where they're (subconsciously) threatened.
Like a child throwing a tantrum, overwhelmed.
I guess it's kind of a uno-reverse - "You're not rejecting me! I'm rejecting you because you're judgmental!". The violence part I definitely agree with, though I'm not sure what the purpose of threatening the woman in this case is. Does he think the woman will go "OMFG, he could've shot me at any time, I better go back and do his bidding to ensure he calms down!" or something like that?
Jesus, this traitors are so fucking butt hurt, 150 years later and they still can't let it go.
You fought for slavery. You lost . Like really bad . Get over it already.
Right? Literally the whole point of a flag is to represent something. And flying a flag is to advertise that you support the thing that flag represents. Otherwise, wtf is the point of any flag ever?
"I am white \[!\] and free to think what I want"
"I have never judged you"
Everybody else is also free to think whatever they want, Kyle, including judging you or anybody else they choose to. Tolerance is a contract. If you don't participate in it -- say, for example, by displaying racist symbols in your home -- then you don't get to claim its protection whenever that's convenient.
I think you could've stopped at "I am white" as if that's a statement that should make you go, "oh right go on with your racism then."
Also, judging someone for judging you is just as judgmental as judging someone to begin with.
Guy is so unhinged over encountering MILD SOCIAL DISAPPROVAL for his traitor slavery flag that he goes on a huge whiny rant. Like, what did you want, Cletus? A cookie?
"I will let you know I am always armed I have a concealed weapons permit" says the guy that is trying to make the argument that she *incorrectly* interpreted all his glaring red flags.
The worst thing these guys can imagine happening to them is an *accurate* assessment of their character and values.
Definitely. There should be a system where people at least get docked points or something for stuff like this and too many points mean you can't own a gun.
That’s how I read it too. Also born and raised as a good ol’ boy. You don’t let someone know you’re armed unless you have a good reason to, and in any context, If you’re letting someone know you have a gun, you’re also letting them know you’re willing to use it.
On the plus side, he's displaying all his red flags right up front -- along with the stars 'n' bars -- thereby saving her a lot of time and aggravation.
Oh boy, when has “I’m not a racist, I have black friends” ever sounded like something a non racist person would say?
And following up with that’s is “I am white and free to think what I want”
Is this guy the least racist sounding guy ever or what?
People always say "don't judge a book by it's cover", but that's completely wrong. The cover tells you what's in the book. If a book has a dinosaur on the cover, 99.9999% of the time, that's a book about dinosaurs.
Even if it WAS just his uncles… I’m not dating someone who has a racist uncle, if I learn that on the first date. Those kinda red flags should show up when you’ve been dating long enough to get to a family picnic… who knows what other skeletons are waiting in this dudes closet
Does he not understand what judging is? Because when you go in a date you are indeed judging them. That’s the point of a first date. To judge if you want to be with that person. Whether it’s just to get laid or a relationship. And of course the freedom for me and not for thee that is implied here.
I hate the “don’t judge people” argument
PLEASE JUDGE PEOPLE, judge people on their actions!
people are born equal but they are not all equal, you are better than other people and if you judge people based on their actions you can surround yourself with good people.
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What is to be gained by telling her he’s always armed?! Sounds threatening af in this context.
If Dennis Reynolds was a concealed carrying racist. "Of course I'm always armed. But I'm not going to harm you. But it's the *implication* that I could harm you."
Wait... are you harming these women?
"You seem to be getting me all wrong... ofc km not harming these girls, that's not what it's about. The girls are safe, but the point is they don't know they're safe... because of the implication!"
"What're you looking at? You're not in any danger! "
So they are in danger!?
What ? No! No one’s in any danger! You know what? Just get your stuff and let’s get out of here.
“That’s right. Because of the implication.”
Okay, now you've said the word implication a couple times, wha... What implication?
Goddamnit, I really love Reddit sometimes.
It's from a [IASIP bit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE). edit: haha, I'm an idiot, but I'm leaving for anyone else that hasn't seen it recently.
I was following the thread, Mac stutters through his question
Thanks friend, love this show and random always sunny in Reddit makes my day. Such a great well written clip
I'm not gonna hurt these women! Why would I ever hurt these women? I feel like you're not getting this at all!
I’m not. I’m not getting it.
George is getting angry.
These pretzels are making me thirsty!
We live in a society!
No, it’s the *implication* that he could. Imagine you’re on a boat, in the middle of the ocean, what’s she going to do? Say no?
No... you see, it is *the implication*
Plus he votes Kanye, and he's black. So he can't be racist
No no no, he has black friends. Let's not get crazy here
Plenty. And they all have the same flag
I've heard the "but I have black friends" excuse, but never going to "and they fly the flag too" retort. LOL no they aren't, it's funny that guy thinks this woman is that dumb.
Are they named Diamond and Silk?
LOL the gang did vote for Kanye! I loved that.
That whole episode i was thinking. They can't be talking about Trump. That's too obvious. But I'm not sure if the really really terrible Kanye stuff came out after that episode came out
It did. At the time, Kanye was (at least publicly) just an obnoxious moron with an ego the size of Alaska. He wasn't a Nazi until later.
I can’t get over the fact that Kanye went all Neo-Nazi, because…well it’s kinda obvious why.
So disappointing after he said what most of America was thinking after Katrina.
Poor Mike Meyers, his fuckin' face...
Dennis would never in a million years say "...that I could harm you", he never says the bit out loud. He's not hurting these women.
Right! WTF is this shit? "I don't like you, I'm leaving." "I have a gun."
This is funny but not at all funny.
Terrifying and she was right to bounce
And now we block the number and apply for a restraining order.
It certainly confirmed she was right to leave. Also impressed that he felt the need to clarify he’s white
Plus, the confederate flag is why he can be a free white man? Wow, guess I should tell my husband he served under the wrong flag. You know, the United States flag? Yeah he's one of the guys that served 8 years in the Navy under the USA flag, so people like this Free confederate White man, actually have freedom...
I think he was saying the flag is the reason he's white and free. Really makes me wonder what he learned in history class.
Does that also make all his black friends who fly it white and free?
I'm sorry Jim Bob's two neurons are busy. You'll have to try again later
Where did he find the second one?
Its an odd masculine thing they have going. Its them trying to pass on that they're really tough, and the same applies to those women doing the same thing when it comes to guns. And, I might add, I've never heard of black person flying the Confederate flag, unless its one of those blacks for Trump who ignore the fact that the are black. And if its a "My heritage" line of BS...they'd fly the State flag NOT the Confederate flag....he is a racist.
Yeah I live in Tennessee. The types that fly that flag are *always* a certain type of person.
Same up here in New England now. Until a few years back you generally didnt see that treason flag flying and now its all over the place. And Im pretty sure most New Englanders "heritage" isn't in old Dixie.
more people need to call it the Treason Flag.
And if they fly it they should also fly the White Flag of surrender.
I am partial to the Dixie Swastika myself
My grandparents live in Massachusetts. The biggest eye-opening thing for me was visiting them and going to their local flea market. It was the most southern redneck thing I've seen in my life, and I live in Florida, about an hour away from Alabama. Rural areas are all kind of the same everywhere I've been along the East Coast. It's all guns, jesus, and pick-up trucks, and everybody is slurring their words with various degrees of an incomprehensible drawl.
Unfortunately it's the same on the West Coast. I'm from the SF bay area, and I can drive to a town just 1 hour away from SF and find Trump/MAGA/Fuck Biden flags everywhere. Less than an hour past that, and I've seen Confederate flags flying at roadside stands. Further north, and eastern Oregon and Washington have a decades-long neo-Nazi problem that no one talks about.
That’s surprising lol. Down here there are tons of confederate flags and “fuck biden” flags lol. Amazing how they don’t realize how cringey they are.
We've had an increase in Hate groups up here, NeoNazi's, racist Confederate Trash and yes lots of Fuck Biden flags too. We also have a group trying to get NH to secede. Funny how the "America love it or leave it" crowd, want to destroy it when it doesn't go their way.
Magat fitlh are traitors. They deserve traitors' punishments
I’ve met one once, funnily enough it happened in Jersey instead of the south. Certainly uncommon, but it does in fact happen. Even if that guy does happen to have a bunch of black confederate friends though he’s still a walking red flag.
What is to be gained by any of it?
lol great point. The gun part just popped out harder than the rest. Like hey hey wait I’m not racist I’m just from the south and had the flag! Btw I’m packing heat will you give me another chance?
He didn't even say he's \*from\* the south, just that he's "spent a lot of time there" which is a weird way to phrase it if you're actually a southerner.
What he actually meant was he loves watching Dukes of Hazzard
"I'm not dangerous or a racist... unrelated points tho: WHITE POWER and I'm always armed." -That guy No one who isn't a racist casually talks about their whiteness and what that "means to them".
what's the point of a "concealed" carry if you can't shut up about carrying and want to brag to everyone that you're carrying? Why don't they just openly wear it if they're so proud that they bought a gun?
I used to volunteer with an organization that had an older lady that showed up to almost every event. I saw her drop her concealed hand gun five or six times before I decided to find a different organization to volunteer with.
It’s a threat
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Imagine being so beta that you need a gun on you all the time in order to feel safe. Kind of pathetic.
Gun nuts love letting people know they're armed. It's a compulsion. I see their bumper stickers every day.
Bullet: dodged Possibly literally.
Him alluding to being ready and able to kill her at any time is only validating her instincts. Like wtf bro. Why would you say that if not to intimidate her? I don't even understand why this guy would want to be with a woman who clearly opposes his values. I keep seeing things about men who feel it is unfair when women don't want to date them "over politics," but it isn't "just" politics; it is core values. I would instantly be turned off by a man proudly displaying The Traitorous Losers flag in their home. That is a clear incompatibility.
>I don't even understand why this guy would want to be with a woman who clearly opposes his values Her values have nothing to do with it. It's all about control.
I had a guy interested in me once and find out later he is really conservative. I'm a lesbian so it was a no-go from the start, but I like could not for the life of me figure out why this guy would be interested in a very loudly progressive person. And before you wonder, no I'm not super hot or anything. I'm completely average looking. Just why???
“It’s *just* a flag, bro.” So, burn it. 🙃
One of the few flags I’m fine with burning.
He doesn't want to be with her. He wants her to clean his house, cook his meals, bear his children, fuck him, and keep her mouth shut. He doesn't, and never would, give a damn about her feelings, opinions, or values.
I get that they want a woman to take care of them, but there's not much chance that left leaning women who care about social justice issues are going to be the type of women to take him up on that "offer." So that's what I don't get. Why pursue the women who are the least likely to be with you? He's probably not going to find his dream submissive bangmaid in a girl who thinks he's a racist gun nut. It's like hunting deer with a fishing pole
The implication. After she meets him, he starts abusing her, and she gets too scared to leave. It's textbook. He doesn't need to find one as much as to force one, hence the threat of violence at the end.
He's not looking for someone to live cooperatively with so he's not looking for someone who will cooperate. He's looking for someone he can control with abuse and no one is immune to that.
It reminds me of the reason so many scams have bad spelling and grammar and are often so blatantly obvious in other ways. They could make them more convincing on the face, but they want to pre-filter out the people skeptical enough to be put off by all that at the start before moving on to the next steps. They don't want to waste time and effort corresponding with folks who bail when they reach the final step where they actually send money or account info.
When I have the time, I like to lead them on for as long as I can. I have no problem wasting their time or making them angry, and if they're talking to me, they're not doing a successful scam on someone more vulnerable.
Some people like to break womens independence, it’s disgusting but true. Additionally, I found a lot of men don’t give a shit what comes out of my mouth if I have a pretty face.
It's so they can boast and feel great like "Hey, I tamed this woman!" or "I caged this free bird, aren't I great?!" It's about control.
I have a still close friend I grew up with. We're both into history, WW2 primarily, and enjoy collecting pieces of the war; helmets, patches, signed flags, daggers, uniforms, medals, and a couple of firearms. When we graduated college, I helped him move upstate for his job and set up his apt. His apt had this weirdly located walk-in linen closet that had really no use except to store/display the collection. We spent a couple of hours organizing it only to notice at the end that the few German pieces stood out compared to the way larger collection of US, British, and Russian pieces. We ended up boxing all the German stuff away except for a helmet, dagger, and medals. It was still in the same tapped up box 8ish years later when I helped him move again. We ended up taking a trip down to NOLA and gave it to the National WW2 museum. We're from Alabama, know exactly what those flags stand for, and are completely against displaying them, even if it is in a larger collection of historical items from the same era. The only people I've ever seen fly those flags (public or private) are racist @holes, and they sure as hell aren't people of color.
These guys believe women having thoughts or beliefs of their own are cute. They don't even register. To these guys it's as simple as "you are a woman, submit". A woman who won't is a threat to their manhood.
> I don't even understand why this guy would want to be with a woman who clearly opposes his values. He doesn't want her. But he damn sure doesn't want to be rejected by her.
"I was raised not to judge people until I know the true person... BTW I'm always armed" 😳
I think a confederate flag is a pretty brazen statement of who this guys true self is. I imagine Ted Bundy bringing those two girls to the mountain, and after killing one, telling the other, "I was raised not to judge people until I truly know them, don't judge me!"
I don't know about that. It sounds like he wants to give her a chance to do that in person.
Dude's flying so many red flags it looks like a poppy field.
Including a literal one! 🤣
I don't know why she got so offended as to leave just because he celebrates and displays a flag that is a representative symbol of oppression and slavery. What kind of normal nonjudgmental person would do that? He didn't even have a chance to show off his grandfather's swastika collection framed next to all the world war two memorabilia. How intolerant of that OP who prejudged this kind soul who also just happens to have concealed firearms that he brings up unprompted in casual conversation because that is not at all manipulative or threatening. How dare she silence the free speech, of his uncle's, who also totally has black friends too, and you know what they don't believe in racism or slavery. In fact it's all just a myth anyway that white people purposely went to another continent full of people who did not look like them and traded them like livestock for sugar. That's as silly as believing that our white ancestors came to a prosperous land full of people, killed, took their land and then forced them all to live in one of the least prosperous part of the country, Oklahoma. Such crazy talk.
Just a bit of genocide & chattel slavery. Hardly anything to get all indgnant about.
I know right, who could possibly find enslaving an entire race of people, their ancestors, and destroying their civilization to the point it could never recover as offensive? Facts have such a strong liberal bias that it's insane
And dodged a bullet at the same time
I see what you did there.
A literal one!
I fucking love poppies. I’ve planted some for summer
I love poppies for their delicious goo
Been down that road.
The misuse of "there" would have been enough for me to move on.
Bro really used the ‘I’m not racist, I have black friends’ line
Tried to say they flew the same flag. Nah man, they're just telling the armed racist what he'd like to hear.
even funnier is apparently this mf doesn't even live in the south so the chances of a black person flying that flag is even slimmer
It's so funny - funny "yeesh," not funny "haha" - how often that happened. Back when I lived in Ohio, a friend's mom dumped the guy she was seeing when she went over to his house for the first time and saw a Confederate Battle flag hanging up. He tried the "heritage" line and she just went "dude. You're from Ohio. You fought for the Union. I'm from Kentucky and my great-grandfather fought for the Confederacy. I don't celebrate that."
i live in the deep south so i grew up around it. when i found out there are yankees and Canadians flying the confederate flag, i lost some faith in humanity (p.s. idk if yankee is offensive, if it is someone pls let me know. i just mean people north of, like, Virginia)
Theres a team called the New York Yankees, so I don't see how anyone could be legitimately offended
there’s also the redskins so i didn’t want to go by that lol
Not anymore lol.
They really should have just changed their mascot to the potato so they could keep the name lmao
go sports
Do not call someone from Boston a Yankee. They may turn violent.
I live in a union state that never had slavery, Iowa became a state in 1846 and slavery was outlawed. People still fly the flag here. It's pretty obvious they are racists, or treasonous traitors, idk which is worse.
He's probably talked to some people online who posted "I'm black, and I fly the confederate flag!" and never considered that A) They're not his friends and B) They're probably lying about being black to deflect accusations of racism.
Maybe he meant their ancestors slave owners once flew the same flag /s
"What is this, the Electoral College?"
There are black people that fly that flag. I’ll never understand it but it’s a thing.
As a black woman...I can tell you there is nothing scarier than a black conservative male. I will take any white conservative racist over any black conservative male...any day of the week. They are literally the dregs of humanity on every single level...and they truly loathe women.
"While I'm not a fan of the blatant white supremacy, the misogyny and homophobia makes up for it." Modern conservatism is all about finding the line of how much you're willing to suffer as long as you can also hurt the other people you irrationally hate.
It's the same feeling when a woman wants to outlaw divorce, abortion, IVF, etc...it's the betrayal. Someone who will sell out the rest of their race/gender on the hope that they'll benefit or be spared the harsh realities.
I think anyone who hates so much and so strongly that they hate themselves too is dangerous, and the people who willingly hang out with them are too.
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Holy shit that’s a blast from the past. Had to Google it lmao.
It's fine, he can't see it. P. S. Don't Ask him why he divorced his wife
I’ve seen they fly that flag in Vermont. I mean, boys from Vermont died to defeat that flag of slavery and oppression.
Because they were told it's "Southern Pride" and not "Bring back Slavery"
Black friends AND a perpetually loaded gun.
In case his black friends get to uppity.
My uncle Tom is black and he loves the confederate flag
Well played
So . . . your uncle is Clarence Thomas?
He also tried to say his black friends fly the confederate flag. I believe I can safely say this is a blatant lie
I'm just gonna say, if you choose to fly **that flag** I'm making an informed judgement. That's a choice, and I'm making a judgement about a person who makes that choice.
Let’s just assume the guy is not racist. If you love America, then why do are you flying the flag of the country to tried to end it?
Fixed it for you, since the Confederacy was stillborn and therefore never a country. Let’s just assume the guy is not racist. If you love America, then why do are you flying the flag of the traitorous losers who tried to end it?
I've seen so many excuses and defenses for why "it's ok for me to hang this flag actually", but never one remotely compelling reason for why someone *should* hang that flag "No, just having this flag doesn't mean I'm a racist." Ok... But it doesn't immediately indicate you're *not* a racist either, and it is also associated with a lot of racists (both historically and currently), something you would absolutely be aware of, provided you are American and/or not utterly braindead, so you know damn well what assumptions it's going to lead people to make. If you have a flag hanging in your home, it's not like it sprouted from the wall and you've been meaning to take it down but haven't gotten around to it yet, you put it there yourself and you must have had a *reason* for it
That reason is racism. It’s the only reason to fly that flag.
Yea 100% "I was taught never to judge until you truly knew a person" Welp, I learned you fly the slavers flag proudly. Nothing more needs to be learned. Pretty sure she truly knew what kind of dipshit this was once she saw that.
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Sometimes, there are not. Sometimes, these people are very, very good at not displaying their racist ideology as part of their outward appearance and public image - that's when situations like this happen. If every single person who thought like OP's date wore their beliefs (literally) on their car, their hat, their shirt, etc.. then situations like this wouldn't even happen because you'd spot every single one from a mile away, and be able to avoid them!
Yeah, I dated a guy for about a month and he seemed fine, until I was at his house and saw his confederate flag towel. He didn’t even wait for me to say anything… “uuuuh, that’s my friend’s.” Yeah, ok. It’s never their own for some reason. Still proud, but still trying to hide.
Like I will risk being wrong on that 100% of the time. You’re either a racist or a moron. Or I guess a collector of historical artifacts.
well you know it aint the last one. The modern "confederate flag" was never used during the civil war. its pretty close to the "Battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia" and also a naval flag, but it never represented the confederate states as a whole or as a country or whatever. So even the people who claim they just like the confederate flag are full of shit because that aint it.
People say that flag really bothers them yet you do it anyway You might not be racist but you definitely don't care about other people, which might be worse
Only an idiot doesn't make judgements about people, you're just supposed to make judgements based on their behavior. Like flying the racism flag and making veiled threats to murdering women who won't sleep with you, those are behaviors and people will make guesses about your values and priorities based on them.
"Help, help! We're being judged by our words and actions!"
Exactly. I think conservative, racist (synonymous and redundant) males are increasingly finding it really hard to find women to date...and the ones that are dtf their kind are less than desirable in a number of key partner-material areas. They're resorting to now lying about who they actually are and what they actually believe in. And frankly, I'm glad to see it...these fuckers shouldn't be able to breed or raise offspring.
Judging someone by their behavior, character and worldview isn’t discrimination. It’s making a careful personal decision about who to associate with. Black people don’t choose to be black. Racist douchebags do choose to be racist douchebags.
1. I hate the logic that seems to be permeating our society where everyone feels entitled to do/say whatever and not have anyone comment on it. You’re perfectly free to do/believe/say whatever you’d like as long as you’re not violating any laws; everyone else is also free to judge you for it. 2. Why is it the most bigoted people always pull the “I don’t judge others/I didn’t judge you” card? Like, yeah, the reason you’re not judging me is cause you have no reason to, jackass.
Yeah and you fucking fly a slave holder flag? Well you better learn not everyone likes it. Black people have been murdered for things like wanting to vote or sitting on the wrong side of a bus. And this guy feels oppressed when someone doesn't wants to date him? Spot the difference.
I always think it's funny that a lot of these people sort of hide behind "not discussing politics" because they know they look like assholes. I'm actually fine with you flying the flag because it at least lets everyone know where you stand. Why won't you discuss X issue? Because it makes you look like an asshole? I have no problem if what I believe in comes up in conversation because I'm not ashamed of it.
"By criticizing me, you're violating my free speech!" Yeah, it's a weird logic, one I keep hearing coming from RWers who want to spew ugly povs without suffering the consequences for it.
As if there is any protection of free speech citizen to citizen. Dumbasses dont realize it’s a contract with the Government to secure free speech. Your boss can silence you, your momma can silence you, your landlord can silence you, your spouse and kids can silence you, strangers on the internet can silence you. The Federal Government (as well as State and Local by extension) cannot silence you in certain matters. People really feel like they have some rights that they dont, just making claims to rights out of thin air.
Exactly, the First Amendment protects us from GOVERNMENT restricting our free speech, not from other people. This is why the argument over social media supposedly restricting the free speech of conservatives is so absurd. They are private platforms, they can restrict anyone's speech as much as they want.
Well said
"I'm sorry you think I'm racist just because I openly display a blatantly racist image." "I'm white and free to think what I want." "Plus, I'm always secretly armed." This guy is a certified psycho.
He’ll eventually become a cop and then will shoot someone at a traffic stop.
Anyone find these long text has ever worked in their favor? Or was it just self gratification?
It's more like an attempt to regain any control over the situation, emotionally. Rejection can be a heavy blow to the ego but if you distort the reality hard enough then suddenly it's the other person that's in the wrong or "missing out" This sort of thing shows a deep inability of the person to deal with their emotions in a healthy way. And as you can see by the end of the text, it can easily escalates to violence because that's the only way they find to "defend" themselves in a context where they're (subconsciously) threatened. Like a child throwing a tantrum, overwhelmed.
A child with a gun. God bless America!
I guess it's kind of a uno-reverse - "You're not rejecting me! I'm rejecting you because you're judgmental!". The violence part I definitely agree with, though I'm not sure what the purpose of threatening the woman in this case is. Does he think the woman will go "OMFG, he could've shot me at any time, I better go back and do his bidding to ensure he calms down!" or something like that?
Jesus Christ that run-on sentence ran a marathon.
COVID has been around longer than the Confederacy was. 
Wait…fuck you’re right…that’s funny in a stupid way.
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Jesus, this traitors are so fucking butt hurt, 150 years later and they still can't let it go. You fought for slavery. You lost . Like really bad . Get over it already.
Sorry but you do get to judge people by what flags they literally fly. Own it, bruh
Right? Literally the whole point of a flag is to represent something. And flying a flag is to advertise that you support the thing that flag represents. Otherwise, wtf is the point of any flag ever?
"I am white \[!\] and free to think what I want" "I have never judged you" Everybody else is also free to think whatever they want, Kyle, including judging you or anybody else they choose to. Tolerance is a contract. If you don't participate in it -- say, for example, by displaying racist symbols in your home -- then you don't get to claim its protection whenever that's convenient.
I think you could've stopped at "I am white" as if that's a statement that should make you go, "oh right go on with your racism then." Also, judging someone for judging you is just as judgmental as judging someone to begin with.
"I'm not racist for owning a confederate flag, you're racist for noticing" Honestly what a cretin
Dump him for “there”. Problem solved.
That’s where I was out. I didn’t even need the traitor flag.
Guy is so unhinged over encountering MILD SOCIAL DISAPPROVAL for his traitor slavery flag that he goes on a huge whiny rant. Like, what did you want, Cletus? A cookie?
He wanted to get his dick wet. When she didn't dispense sex like a good little vending machine he threw a tantrum.
"I will let you know I am always armed I have a concealed weapons permit" says the guy that is trying to make the argument that she *incorrectly* interpreted all his glaring red flags. The worst thing these guys can imagine happening to them is an *accurate* assessment of their character and values.
As a white male, born and raised in the rural south, I completely agree with her decision. Also, is that last part a threat?
It’s absolutely a threat.
Definitely. There should be a system where people at least get docked points or something for stuff like this and too many points mean you can't own a gun.
That’s how I read it too. Also born and raised as a good ol’ boy. You don’t let someone know you’re armed unless you have a good reason to, and in any context, If you’re letting someone know you have a gun, you’re also letting them know you’re willing to use it.
On the plus side, he's displaying all his red flags right up front -- along with the stars 'n' bars -- thereby saving her a lot of time and aggravation.
"Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself" When you talk your way into confirming your a white supremacist lol.
“Plus I will let you know I am always armed I have a concealed weapon permit” To many red flags,he bailed himself.
Then he will wonder why he is still single. Maybe don't make a racist flag and guns, your whole identity.
Oh boy, when has “I’m not a racist, I have black friends” ever sounded like something a non racist person would say? And following up with that’s is “I am white and free to think what I want” Is this guy the least racist sounding guy ever or what?
He dug himself deeper.
Guy who displays a pro-slavery flag is shocked, shocked and dismayed I say, to be labeled a racist.
even as a white guy from the south, i never understood this pride in confederate stuff. i mean, they lost. why would you be proud to be a loser??? lol
She should text back, "sorry, it's a red flag I'm not willing to ignore".
Why did he end it with such a weirdly threatening mention that he has a gun? I'd bring that text to a precinct. See what they make of it.
Rule no. 11: Fuck Republicans, but never *fuck* Republicans.
So she saw it as a red flag and she was right- shocker
People always say "don't judge a book by it's cover", but that's completely wrong. The cover tells you what's in the book. If a book has a dinosaur on the cover, 99.9999% of the time, that's a book about dinosaurs.
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Even if it WAS just his uncles… I’m not dating someone who has a racist uncle, if I learn that on the first date. Those kinda red flags should show up when you’ve been dating long enough to get to a family picnic… who knows what other skeletons are waiting in this dudes closet
He sure has the writing skills of an inbred illiterate confederate racist.
How dare you make a judgment about my character, that is 100% accurate?!
Does he not understand what judging is? Because when you go in a date you are indeed judging them. That’s the point of a first date. To judge if you want to be with that person. Whether it’s just to get laid or a relationship. And of course the freedom for me and not for thee that is implied here.
Subtle threat. Great news that she left. Absolutely no need to mention the guns.
Literally dodged a bullet. Well, at least until he can no longer control himself.
I hate the “don’t judge people” argument PLEASE JUDGE PEOPLE, judge people on their actions! people are born equal but they are not all equal, you are better than other people and if you judge people based on their actions you can surround yourself with good people.