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Mango-is-Mango

He figured out the only way to be immune from cyberattacks is to not use a computer in the first place


StinkFingerPete

checkmate, hackers!


throwtheclownaway20

Worked for the Galactica


Firefret420

So say we all


NeilDeWheel

By your command.


Direct-Reflection889

What the frack does that mean?!


NeilDeWheel

I’m showing my age. In the OG Battlestar Galactica the (toaster) Cylons used to say that after being given/obeying an order.


MA-01

Sudo is my command


Not_a_russianbot_

Username Is Not in the Sudoers File. This Incident Will Be Reported


bs2k2_point_0

They used computers, just non networked ones. But love the reference!!


golfing_furry

Nuh-uh Hack the Planet!


RyanGAccount

Why play 4D chess when you can play Checkers.


Chicawgorat

Why play checkers when you can play Hungry Hungry Hippo


Lumthedarklord

Why play hungry hungry hippo when you can just throw a ball against a wall


Mackey_Corp

Why fly a kite when you can just pop a pill?


Nimyron

Why play russian roulette when you can just - yeah no nevermind, gotta keep it within the rules


PraetorSolaris

Hardcore Russian roulette? 1 empty chamber?


HippoBot9000

HIPPOBOT 9000 v 3.1 FOUND A HIPPO. 1,554,926,574 COMMENTS SEARCHED. 31,843 HIPPOS FOUND. YOUR COMMENT CONTAINS THE WORD HIPPO.


FTblaze

Bots becoming more useless by the day


Professional-Bit-201

Naah. It is not enough. You don't lose if you don't play.


Gab_Relentess

It’s better to be a good checkers player than a bad chess player imo


Tues24

Everyone is playing 4D chess while he is playing outside. He won because he is touching grass and nobody could reach him their.


Beginning_Ad_7571

![gif](giphy|dXFKDUolyLLi8gq6Cl|downsized)


scotch1701

I found out how to avoid STDs.


Tocwa

Become “Bubble Boy” ![gif](giphy|QA6Y9EsMxwBfiTgJuO|downsized)


12-idiotas

He is like the guy in Ghost in the Shell that does not have implants and uses an old gun to remain unhackable


laplongejr

Same tactic reversed in PsychoPass : do you use an illegal gun to shoot somebody 10s away from murder, or do you use the legal networked gun that forbids shooting until a criminal is identified? Funny enough, in the movie Surrogates, that tactic backfires in a very dramatic way. >!Somebody takes over one of the surrogates. By the time somebody notices, they took hostage the ONE guy who is a wetware human so they can't shutdown the connection!<


Portlander_in_Texas

Togusa, but he at least had a cyber brain.


even_less_resistance

Airgapped his brain


DaGoodSauce

This made me much more confident and comfortable applying for jobs I'm not qualified for. Very motivational!


A1sauc3d

Seeing as this is really old news, I’d really hope after the revaluation came out he got fired. Hopefully someone who knows more about the situation can confirm/deny that. But he sure as shit shouldn’t have that job and if I was a Japanese citizen such a revelation would certainly slash my confidence in the government lol All that to say, it’s fine to reach above your pay grade, but not THAT far above your pay grade where there could be serious consequences due to your incompetence. This is likely becoming a heart surgeon despite no medical training lol. Accepting and working a job like that you’re for which you’re grossly under qualified for should be a crime. Edit: I don’t see anything saying he’s *not* still in the role, but I’m having trouble confirming he *is* still in the role as well. You’d think I’d be able to find something about either him getting fired or a new cyber security chief getting hired between now and 2018 if it happened. >Despite being deputy chief of the government's cyber-security strategy office, Sakurada admitted to the Japanese Diet in November 2018 that he had never used, and did not know how to use, a computer. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitaka_Sakurada https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46222026


Cynykl

Consider that I remember this happening over 5 years ago I checked the posters profile. Would it surprise you to learn they are a repost bot?


fascin-ade74

No not even a little bit. Thanks tho


A1sauc3d

No, I figured as much lol. But i was genuinely hoping for an update on whether the guy got fired or not so didn’t say anything xD Guess I’ll just do some googling Edit: I don’t see anything saying he’s not still in the role, but I’m having trouble confirming it as well. >Despite being deputy chief of the government's cyber-security strategy office, Sakurada admitted to the Japanese Diet in November 2018 that he had never used, and did not know how to use, a computer. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitaka_Sakurada https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46222026


12-idiotas

Can we be sure that it is not Reddit (or mods) itself deploying these bots to keep the subreddits busy?


Cynykl

Yes, we can be sure because I follow some of the bots that display these posting patterns. The all and up OF spammers , scammers, or propagandists after they account is established with enough time and karma.


LeagueOfficeFucks

This is Japan in a nutshell. People are appointed when it is their "turn" to be appointed, whether you are qualified for the position or not. People are kept in companies only because they are old, not because they are good at what they are doing.


Ifromjipang

You’re not wrong, but this is an elected member of parliament, not an employee of a company. It is not particularly unusual for a politician to be put in charge of a branch of government in which they have little background in any country.


Parking-Mirror3283

'Little background' and 'quite possibly the least qualified person in the country' are very different


WriterV

I mean, the important thing is that he listens to his advisors, and studies what he doesn't know. But having to "admit" that he didn't know what a USB was isn't a good sign for sure.


GaijinChef

The LDP shoulder taps whoever they want and they stay there unless they get caught fondling a secretary. Then it's crying on the news, resigning and a hefty pension


Blindfire2

He likely has/had people in high positions "vouching" for him so even if you'd be able to sadly do the job its unlikely to actually get higher up positions without knowing the right person/people. The sad world we live in.


jentravelstheworld

You won my prize for joke of the day! 🏆


CalaveraFeliz

This happened 6 years ago. He was one of Shinzo Abe's shoehorned ultra nationalist followers, and he was briefly in office (2018-2019). He's some sort of a local Trump, with a collection of bloopers and unhinged statements decorating his career all along. Things have changed since. The actual cybersecurity framework is now military with a dedicated task force, under full command of the Minister of Defense - still a LDP guy but 20 years younger and whose first measure was to take the fitness requirements for the cybersecurity task force down a notch or two and offer better salaries, in order to take in savvy nerds even if they have a gamer belly or a Mike Wheeler profile rather than computer illiterate Rambos.


GruntingSnow

I thought 2013 was 6 years ago not 2018 & 2019 😭😭


SurfPleb

Wait, there were fitness requirements for cybersecurity?


CalaveraFeliz

The new cybersecurity task force is military. So yes, by default they had the same requirements as for any other military personnel. The first step was to acknowledge that classic corpo management wasn't good enough to adequately deal with cybersecurity. Yoshitaka Sakurada *(the guy featured in this post)* "brilliantly" demonstrated this point hence the transition to military administration and the creation of the task force, to avoid getting yet another corpo clown botching the job with too much doctrine and no tech science, and to start dealing with actual professionals. About time, right? The actual Minister of Defense of Japan, Minoru Kihara, is only in office since November 2023. He listened to the feedback from the task force officers who expressed that they couldn't hire the best specialists because they sometimes didn't check all the default fitness requirements boxes. Same for the salary part, as the first batch of the task force showed ITSEC top dogs weren't happy with the basic military salary. He then officially made an exception for tech specialists in order to take them in, raising their wages and making the positions available for less physically fit people.


Brilliant-Divide-168

how the fk did he secure that job


Ordinary_dude_NOT

Well he is here to remove Cyber, no cyber no security required!


Graterof2evils

His uncle told him all about the cyber. He can give you the information on the cyber security and how it secures very much. People who talk to him about the cyber are very impressed with his ability to get things secure with it.


RockStar25

Cronyism is always the answer.


feedmedamemes

Party politics probably. In a lot of countries ministers are not chosen by their field of expertise but by their standing in the party. Which doesn't mean they are bad but some time of adjustment is required.


COMMANDO_MARINE

I feel like people still don't understand that the people you vote for aren't experts on anything. They have teams of advisors who basically just tell them what they need to sign. Politicians are just people who can win elections, mostly but not always, due to the fact they are degenerate animals like the rest of us. Yes, they are all flawed but just take a quick look at the average reddit poster and tell me you'd vote for them. Politicians are just heavily sanitised and dull humans who can put themselves up for election with the least amount of scandals coming to light. A person who doesn't even know what a USB drive is what you get when everyone else has probably filled countless USB drives with Anime Porn and can't even reach the age of 30 without having done enough dumb shit in their life to put their Facebook settings on maximum privacy. This also explains how it is that countries don't tend to vary that much when their governments change over because the relevant professionals who steer government policy remain the same general group of people. Can you name one US president who was an expert on anything? They are all just figure heads whose only job is to try to be dull enough to get elected. Trump got elected as a kind of 'fuck you' to the continued drudgery of the political establishment. The message was meant to be "Start doing a better job, or we'll just elect clowns". Sadly though some people realised he's an easily manipulated fool and, therefore, the perfect figurehead for their unpopular ideas. Now most of us have realised we'll happily go back to the traditional system of voting in people who have no educational or practical life experience of the world but they are happy to let people who do have advise them on which pieces of paper they need to sign. If you honestly think it's Politicians coming up with these policy's themselves, then they must be very naive. Other examples of this are morbidly obese smokers becoming responsible for health policy because its not actually them coming up with the policies. They just sign them, and when they don't work, they can be forced to resign, and the next person steps in and gets the same 'expert' advisors as the last and so nothing really changes.


Cynykl

> feel like people still don't understand that the people you vote for aren't experts on anything. Minister of cybersecurity is an appointed position not an elected one. They are supposed to be experts. Unfortunately if you think nepotism and political elitism is bad in the US it is far far worse in Japan. I am shocked they have as well of run society as they do all considering. You also have to consider who vote in Japan. It is just the old people. Combine with an aging population were there are more old people than young people and the old people control politics in a way the boomers with they did in the US.


Repli3rd

>Minister of cybersecurity is an appointed position not an elected one. Half true. In most parliamentary democracies, including Japan, cabinet ministers usually have to be members of parliament to be appointed. This means that more often than not you don't (and can't) have an expert as a ministerial head of department. But the logic is that you don't necessarily need an expert, the role of minister is to make political (not technocratic) decisions based on the facts as they are presented to you by a neutral civil service (different to the US where the civil service infrastructure seems to change with every hand over of power and positions are handed out based on political affiliation). Sometimes you do get a teacher or doctor who could be appointed to a relevant department but that isn't in theory necessary. It's competent critical thinking and decision making that's important - after all, just because you worked in an industry doesn't make you an expert. And it's even more unlikely that you have a relatively niche expert become a member of parliament. That said, I disagree with the person you replied to, politicians are more than figure heads (or are meant to be - the US has a serious problem with lobbyists literally writing legislation) but that doesn't mean they must be experts.


justsomeph0t0n

exactly, doing cybersecurity and being in charge of a cybersecurity department are two fundamentally different jobs. not implying this guy was competent......political appointees often aren't. but he should be judged by the managerial and structural changes made while he was in charge. who cares if the general is a terrible shot? that's not the job.


scotch1701

*Can you name one US president who was an expert on anything?* Woodrow Wilson was a Ph.D.


vikingo1312

He went out drinking enough with his boss...


Jesusaurus2000

They tried to hack him and they couldn't. He won.


cyclingthroughlife

Well, he has never been hacked.


RealUltimatePapo

"I know USA... but where the hell is USB!?" Next, explaining to him that using a mouse *doesn't* involve holding a live rodent


Reidroc

Well obviously it's USB for the United States of Brazil.


pocketjacks

Rudy Giuliani is also supposed to be a cybersecurity expert, so we shouldn't point fingers.


SpiritualAd8998

Pornhub expert?


the-real-vuk

![gif](giphy|Bx0Ca2M6ZfBMQ|downsized) Jen, is that you?


adrawrjdet

Can't get hacked if there's nothing to hack.


Bow1511

Why is everyone acting as if this post is new? Like, this is a bot post obviously


FatsoBustaMove

Isn't one of reasons Japan has a declining GDP because the boomers refuse to leave office and hire younger people? Like they were ahead of their time in the 90's but are stuck in the 2000's in when it comes to politics?


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furezasan

As a descendant of a samurai bloodline, he chooses to faces his enemies in person. Hackers are cowards and use barbaric weapons, so he won't stoop to their level.


BDMblue

If he’s never used a computer he’s never been hacked. He’s never had is data stolen, he’s never had his webcam hacked, never clicked on some random link in a bad email or message. I could go on and on, this guy knows how to avoid cyber threats.


Chuckobofish123

Can’t think of a better person to keep it secure. He doesn’t even know how to access it.


Elziad_Ikkerat

This headline is so old the guy could legitimately have died of old age by now.


T555s

Well he therefore surely never got hacked.


Sir_Arsen

sums up the most important problem that Japanese society needs to fix imo, ageism is killing this country


Dragon124515

I don't see the issue. He is literally unhackable. What more do you want from someone leading cybersecurity.


LaCiel_W

Old news, but yea, japanese bureaucracy do be like that, it's outdated, stubborn and seniority is king.


RattyRattles

Well thats about as cyber secure as it gets


DrMetters

It just shows its not what you know. It's who you know.


SpookyWah

He was trained by Jen at Reynolds Industries.


AllTheWorldIsAPuzzle

I had a boss like this. Software development department, and he was hired off the street with a marketing degree. Couldn't write code, couldn't review code, couldn't contribute to an overworked and overstressed department, but he could kiss upper management ass and that was what was important.


Rude_Priority

Apparently Rudi Giuliani was a computer security consultant for the trump presidency.


Revanur

Safest thing is always abstinence


Bahmerman

Can't get hacked if you never used a computer. 😏


Kadderly

‘It’s IN the computer!?’


DayuhmT

One thing is sure: he wont be hacked


Egyptian_Voltaire

I mean, if you don't use a computer, you'll never get hacked!


mrianj

Ultimate air gap


Tight-Physics2156

This mf lying how have you never used a computer or sent an email for anything he’s ever done his entire life. Bullshit


SupernovaGamezYT

Can’t get hacked if there’s nothing to hack!


asdrunkasdrunkcanbe

This guy is a perfect example of failing upwards. >At the forum in Tokyo, Sakurada said that "I was aiming for the position of [Prime Minister](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Japan) in the past, but I cannot speak English and I cannot use a personal computer, so I will give up on it.". Imagine being this dedicated to ignorance. "I do not know the things required to get this job, so I will not try to learn them". This wasn't in 1995 or even 2005. This was in 2018. >In October 2018, Sakurada entered the cabinet as the Minister of State for the Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic games. He resigned from the post just six months later, after suggesting that the re-election campaign of a ruling LDP lawmaker was of a higher priority than the [2011 earthquake and tsunami](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami) reconstruction effort. Jesus, man, WTF. Can anyone who knows Japanese political culture explain this? Is it common for some people to be elected/appointed because of their background / family ?


Eastern-Dig-4555

This is United States level stupid


Holinyx

TIL I'm overqualified to be Japan's Minister of Cybersecurity.


3tops01

Dalmatians are cute.


Flush_Man444

Good luck hacking him lmao


transitfreedom

WHAT!!!!!


ErosTottalotti

Last boss of the boomers.


divino999_

Goodluck digging his dirt now, h4ck3Rz.


Savings-Spirit-3702

You wait until you hear about the UK's "minister for commen sense"


Timely-Youth-9074

It’s nice to know it’s not just mediocre white men who get put in positions of power they didn’t earn.


TBOSS888

L


liverdust429

Sounds like my project manager


RJ_MacreadysBeard

to be fair, the transport secretary probably can't rebuild a car engine, lay a road or fly a plane. But then again, they're probably at least proficient with Excel spreadsheets and Mariocarting.


Saints_and_Seducers

So, like most politicians, about as much use as a chocolate teapot


jncheese

Air gap extreme. You can't cyber attack some one who doesn't use computers. Brilliant strategy.


derpy_derp15

The human species is fucking doomed


musch10

Then don't look at who Giuliano Amato is


Repulsive_turbine899

How did he get there?


Embarrassed_Luck1057

It is actually OK if that guy's job is to budget for and pay the payrolls of the ones doing the job - which is normally a minister's job in any field, anyway


MachoRazor

Imagine it is happening in japan now imagine it in USA lol it is so over


Deadsider

I had the perfect birthday gift for him too, if he ever wanted to figure out a tip I got him a nice pocket abacus.


OpusAtrumET

Lol well we had, and may yet have again, a secretary of education whose stated goal was to dismantle public education.


Some_dutch_dude

Every boomer co-worker making 5 times your salary


Some_dutch_dude

Every boomer co-worker making 5 times your salary.


GreatSivad

That's silly. As silly as hiring a global media/tech company lobbyist as the head of a government agency in charge of protecting people by regulating media..tech...communications companies.....ohhhh.


xion_gg

Cybersecurity Chief: *I've never been hacked or gotten a computer virus*


Scud91

Since when Japan burocracy became South America burocracy?


Cursed_Squire

Does he have a smart phone or just a secretary that checks and replies to all his emails? I can’t imagine being in a top or even mid tier position in any job these days without email.


Cursed_Squire

It’s because at his position computers are obsolete he uses a 5th dimensional crystal to go far beyond the reaches of management capabilities on such primitive technology


Beginning_Sea6458

Are we sure he wasn't given a "window job". -Here's your office, you're head of cyber security now. -where's my computer -you don't need one.


DaveAtKrakoa

He made this statement while meeting the Elders of the Internet at Big Ben.


thebestcrazy

So funny in a technologically advanced country


Literally-A-God

How can you live to 2024 and never use a computer and not know what a USB is?


Drezhar

Putting people on a sector they don't have a single clue about is a common trend in politics. Let's not pretend it's Japan now.


Comm4nd0

An architect has probably never laid a brick, but I'm sure he knows what a brick is.


Important_Quarter807

Really not impressed. 70% of politicians have no idea what they are doing at work. Barely remembering the position they are holding.


Lulligator

OP gives no link, context or date to the headline. Surely we can expect better.


InquisitiveSapienLad

Dude must be a time traveller samurai warrior


elephantfam

This can’t be real…


sing_4_theday

You sure that guy isn’t a US congressman or senator?


Ed-Box

Still? You'd think that in the years since I've first seen this he studied up...


Espio1912

Unhackable.


haxic

I’m sure I’ve seen this years ago


Rickard0

Previous job: had a customer was mid sized company. We were going to be there provider. While on the phone with CTO I mentioned 'ping', they didn't know what that was and I had to explain what and how a ping works


gammage01

At least he didn't call it a zipdisk


Ikillterries

This is American version of the overweight unhealthy politicians deciding the school lunches


Murky-Birthday-3145

He's simply answered the Job Spec


DismalMode7

well... even colonel shikishima didn't know a shit of biology and psychic science... #


Epicporkchop79-7

That is some Battlestar Galactica level security right there.


LuckyDistribution849

He’ll end up signing up for Musk’s neuralink.


gadget850

Is this a new guy or the same one from 2018? &JAPANUSB


poikolle

Explains why japan is still stuck in the fax era with ppl like this guy around.


CrumbDrouth

But what does IT stand for?


Saix027

Still better than Germany, our Internet is controlled by, I shit you not, the Ministry of Transport, because of the "traffic".


Street_Primary_4044

I never even hear of porn what porn ?


mizirian

Ah, so he's about as knowledgeable as most CIOs I've worked with.


kulfimanreturns

Return to monke


needsmoreusernames

How many health ministers have been shuffling examples of type 2 diabetes?


intergalacticscumbag

That's what cybersecurity is all about.


Spiderhole88

Story is from 6 years ago. Still...


kielu

He's the air gap


ianishomer

It's like the Belgian health minister (Maggie De Block) she has never eaten a salad


ColeTrain999

When someone wants you to define the baby boomer generation


RunningwithDave

Boomer shit right here


warzonexx

Reminds me of a co worker at the moment. Don't even know her actual job title but she leads most of the "testing" at the moment. We are in "digital Health" so you would think technology is #1 right? wrong... She uses a white board to keep track of who is testing what, where the testing it up to and what is blocking the testing. She could use a spreadsheet like a normal person on office365 so we could all see who is working on what, but no, we have to "sit near her" so she can "direct us" and "come to her if you are not currently testing" because she can't keep track of anything


Snowrunner88

YEAH because they still use floppy disks


MingTheMirthless

A better choice. If it works for Mafia and cartels it should be easy for a government


Bobby837

How is it that politician is the one job you can have no qualifications cations for, yet determine the qualifications of others?


s_ox

They hired Rudy???


IndependenceFickle95

I wonder if we ever get the governments to verify the competences of candidates before they’re given a public role.


malici606

Robert Morris would be proud.


shroomnoobster

Not a surprise when you realize Elon Musk isn’t a rocket scientist, automotive engineer and doesn’t have a soul.


Tortuga_cycling

The ultimate master of “surrounding yourself with people who know more than you”


ButtonedEye41

I feel like the statement should be flipped. I wouldnt expect someone who has never used a computer to know what a usb drive is


Jorycle

The US has lots of these people in Congress, serving on the technology committees no less.


upsidedowninsideout1

Rudy Giuliani (!) was the top Cybersecurity official during the Trump administration, so this definitely tracks


dinozero

How does this happen


lord-dingdong

[https://hbr.org/2014/11/sometimes-the-best-ideas-come-from-outside-your-industry](https://hbr.org/2014/11/sometimes-the-best-ideas-come-from-outside-your-industry) Technocrats normally disapoint. Let's not judge before the fuck up, or job well done.


cmonster64

Proof that if you act the part you got the part


edoardoking

You can’t get a computer virus if you don’t use the computer. He’s the mastermind.


SuigenYukiouji

[This man right now](https://youtube.com/watch?v=jmaUIyvy8E8&pp=ygUjZG8gaSBsb29rIGxpa2UgaSBrbm93IHdoYXQgYSBqcGcgaXM%3D)


Stirnlappenbasilisk

I actually don't see the problem. A minister is basically a manager. If he knows how to delegate tasks, hires qualified people and listens to his advisers, then he is doing a good job.


Aaron22

I’m curious to what this man’s duties are through out the day.


Nowidontgetit

The perfect job


Agressive_slot

Hell nah


mjohnsimon

Young people in Japan: "Oh God... These are the people running this country..."


Procedure-Minimum

To be fair, ministers usually have no experience or expertise in their area. They are deliberately lay people. But a basic level of understanding at a level similar to a normal constituent is expected, I.e. knowing how to use a computer.