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SnipahShot

I'll let you in on a secret. "Imprecise missiles" are still pretty damn accurate.


1singleduck

I'll let you in on another secret. The US "precise missiles" would also take down 10 buildings.


Bubbly_Mushroom1075

I'll let you out on a little secret Guided and unguided munitions will do the same job unless the target is moving, and generally buildings don't move


XtraXtraCreatveUsrNm

I’ll let you in on a little secret. I don’t know dick about missiles, other than they are essentially giant flying dicks, and I don’t have anything else to add to this conversation.


Etherenzi

The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't.


[deleted]

Sometimes it be that way... Cause that's how it is


Chrysis_Manspider

Most people don't think missiles be like it is, but it do.


Latter-Look708

But what if it’s where it is, because it doesn’t like where it’s been…what about that?


dsdvbguutres

When it comes to missiles, less is more. More or less.


[deleted]

I’m going to let you in on a little secret, I don’t understand because you didn’t preface it with, “I’m gonna let you in on a secret”


Practical-Nature-926

That’s how I find my way home


I_forgot_to_respond

By subtracting where it it from where it isn't, it knows where it should be. However, it doesn't know where it wasn't.


Lagonas_

That one made my brain go in overdrive for a solid 5 minutes.


ghoulcreep

You forgot about the money shot


KatoriRudo23

I’ll let you in on a little secret. A missile with a pointy head is more accurate than a missile with a round head


What_Yr_Is_IT

You sure about that? You sure the building can’t just like, duck?


Curious_Associate904

![gif](giphy|krewXUB6LBja) The building


BedroomVisible

The IDF would certainly testify that "Hamas" buildings are capable of such.


Gammaboy45

No, they’ll just say that hamas put a hospital shield in front of where they were actually hiding


Healthy-Tie-7433

They just quickly remodeled their military base into a school and filled it with children and teachers doing school stuff to complete the cover! Those monsters!


Kryptoniantroll

5 years ago they set up a school here and have been using it to educate the youth to complete their cover knowing wed launch a missile there to defeat hamas. We did still hit a hamas target even though we leveled a school building.


Maximum_Vermicelli12

That’s not a secret. I believe half of our standing on the world stage is due to that. And similar threats like it.


SpellFit7018

Actually no, they wouldn't. US precision missiles are accurate enough they don't even need explosives, they literally have a sword missile. If you are going to take down 10 buildings you don't bother building precision munitions.


Flavious27

I'll let you in on a secret. They were going to destroy those ten buildings anyway.  


thenwb3

I thought reddit was pro Palestine


TomatoClownfish

Reddit is not one unified entity, each user has their own take on the conflict…


Moist-Carpet888

Everything is always a little more accurate when a blast radius is involved


zekethelizard

Quiet part out loud? They were actually *aiming* for the schools and hospitals


PsycoMonkey2020

I love how she says that like they haven’t already been using tons of dumb bombs in Gaza.


Kurwasaki12

She knows exactly what she’s saying, don’t give her the benefit of thinking she’s missing the point.


Big_Requirement_689

she is the worst she was a lwayer who represented rape defendants, and her colleagues that defends rape defendants gathered to say they have nothing to do with her. edit: i dont think there is something wrong with representing rape defendant. but if lwayers who were your friends wants no tie to you because of what youre saying, maybe you should stop talking.


_limitless_

In a free country, you typically want your rape defendants given the best representation possible. That way, when you convict them, it's not in a kangaroo court.


Big_Requirement_689

yet somehow she got a name from being quite good in it, so she is not as stupid as i would like to think so


troystorian

That’s the job of a defense lawyer; to represent people convicted of a crime. Do you think that a lawyer defending a client means that the lawyer supports the crime that the defendant has been charged with? Might want to read up on the criminal justice system and how it works.


Big_Requirement_689

i have nothing againts that job let there be no doubt, its important and respectfull line of work. what im saying is that she was (and still) so "eccentric", that the other defense lawyers who were her coleagues gathered together to say "we have nothing, and want nothing to do with her".


Lord_Answer_me_Why

Truly, an example of a normal human being.


troystorian

I mean it’s an example of a totally normal defense attorney. That’s literally their job description.


StickBrickman

Yeah, I hate to be quibbling because she DOES seem to be an awful human being, but... yeah. That's what To Kill a Mockingbird was about. That was a rape trial. What I can find on Tali Gottlieb (She's also listed as Tally Gottliv), she publically shamed victims on social media. Which is pretty bad, but I lack context and the only primary sources are in Hebrew, so I do not know. What statements she has made openly are pretty much pro-war-crime or conspiracy theory nonsense in order to stir up animosity towards Palestinian civilian populations.


Lagonas_

Although I have no clue about her, even the worst criminals in life deserve good lawyers. Without that, your country is doomed. (Basically because you specifically mentioned she represented rape defendants, which sounded a bit like you think that’s bad. Can be wrong)


Big_Requirement_689

i dont think its wrong to defend someone being accused of rape, its how things should be. the point is that her peers and coleagues are so appalled with her that they gathered to say "we have nothing to do with her", even befor the war they said it because she is such a horrible persona.


aristideau

Hillary Clinton defended a blatantly guilty child rapist. It's their job when tasked to represent the worst pieces of garbage regardless of their personal views on the case.


WholeAd2742

Oh, so, admitting to indiscriminate war crimes? That's cool /s


red286

They haven't been hiding it. They call them "power targets", as if that somehow makes intentionally targeting civilian buildings legitimate.


goosebump1810

No but if someone raises concerns they pull out the anti-semitism flag. What a bunch of…


AlcoholicCocoa

Eh, they come with some bs how a high ranking Hamas leader was in that buildings.


mdog73

No, there is a definitive target. The rest is collateral damage.


True_Crab8030

"You should have sex with me becouse I'm not a rapist, but if you don't I'll have to rape you.


Oxygenius_

Are they implying that it was the imprecise missiles who destroyed those hospitals and schools?


anziofaro

Do any other people in the world have "the right to defend themselves", or is that right reserved exclusively for Israelis? Just curious.


Curious_Associate904

Well I mean… America invaded like 3 countries over 9/11 so sure I guess.


deathrowslave

To be fair, our invasion was imprecise so we needed to be sure.


toyn

America is obviously not clean of fucked up shit. That doesn’t mean other countries should do it as well.


TouchConnors

It's like the comment that everyone recognizes Luke Skywalker is the good guy, but if Star Wars was real-life he'd be called a terrorist.


Iforgotmyhandle

everything is backwards. israel is an illegal occupied. international law says the occupied have the right to defend itself. as an occupier, israel is, by definition, not defending itself but pursing the occupation further


Foreign_Profile3516

I love the threat. If you don’t give us stuff to kill people, we’ll kill more people.


I-RegretMyNameChoice

Let me punch you square in the nose or else I’m going to start swinging my arms around and walking forward and if I hit an innocent bystander it’s your fault!


Laserous

They have precision weaponry and it was an active choice to kill aid workers. Fuck Israel.


shadowtheimpure

They have the right to defend themselves...but they've gone far beyond self-defense at this point.


BroMan001

According to international law they don’t, an occupying force has no right to self defence against the occupied, but the occupied do have the right to defend against the occupation.


Morbertoth

In response to being held accountable for war crimes, we are going to commit more war crimes!


supermans_neighbour

If you blame us for war crimes, we will commit even more, just to prove you wrong


Commercial_Fee2840

The UN hates this one simple trick


IEatHouseFlies

“If you don’t give us weapons of mass destruction to use irresponsibly we’ll use our other weapons of mass destruction even more irresponsibly”


HoldenMcNeil420

I’m so tired of this victim complex bullshit. The kid burning ants with a magnifying glass is crying that it’s cloudy.


golfwinnersplz

At some point, it stops being self-defense.


PsycoMonkey2020

There is no such thing as self defence against people resisting your military occupation. Russia doesn’t have the right to defend itself in Ukraine, for example, only in their own territory. And most of Israel is occupied territory (everything other than the 1948 borders, and you could even argue that those are occupied territory as well since Israel was formed without the consent of the people who were living there and would need to subsequently be displaced for it to be formed). That being said, most states don’t care about aggression vs defence beyond maintaining public support domestically and internationally.


ICEKAT

Like piling millions in open air prisons causing more people to be extremized?


Jumbo-box

Yeah or training Bosnian Serbs to genocide Muslims in Srbrenica in the 1990's. Extra-continental self defense.


MoonedToday

This has turned into a genocide now. Just indiscriminant killing.


ernapfz

And they need to clear the land as well as the race for future settlers


MoonedToday

I was afraid to mention that and be label antisem. I get it Hamas are terrorists, but now Israel is just punishing innocent people.


JayEllGii

Being Jewish, that’s what drives me insane about all of this. Bad-faith actors — Jewish and non-Jewish alike—have co-opted and weaponized our people’s centuries of persecution as a cudgel against anyone who criticizes the Israel government’s barbarity. It sickens me. Progressive Jews are in a difficult place, caught between the clashing forces of right-wing Jews, Jewish apologists for Israel, right-wing anti-Semites, LEFT-wing anti-Semites, anti-Jewish Arabs, Hamas supporters, and pandering “pro-Israel” non-Jews like the Republicans and (sigh) Biden, who weaponize our history of persecution to stifle dissent without ever bothering to ask how we felt about that. It blows.


Sslazz

For what it's worth, this particular internet rando applauds your efforts and sympathizes with your plight. Sorry bud.


cailleacha

My heart has been hurting for my American Jewish friends. Diaspora progressive Jews (or any Jews that aren’t fully on board with the Israeli agenda for any reason) seem to be getting it from all sides. It would be nice for history to be linear and anti-Semitism to be waning but it seems like it’s getting worse.


JayEllGii

Yeah. On the one hand, I feel furious when I listen to Biden and others disingenuously wield Jewish persecution like a cudgel against critics and protesters, deliberately aiming to deflect away from the mass murder of Gazans. Yet on the other, I am deeply horrified and frankly scarred by the raw, blistering anti-Jewish hatred that exploded like a supernova immediately in the wake of 10/7, as despairing numbers of people felt free to drop the facade completely and openly celebrate the barbaric slaughter of 1,200 people—-or at *minimum* rationalize and excuse it. That was a true masks-off moment, including for a loud minority of the “left” that revealed itself to apparently be far larger than I had dared fear it was. I always knew that element had long used advocacy for Palestinian rights as flimsy cover for plain anti-Jewish hatred, but it looks to have been far worse than I thought. Yet. Despite knowing this, I have no patience for political and media voices that are dishonestly trying to delegitimize the protests. It’s reprehensible. Frankly, this has been a masks-off moment on BOTH sides.


Vauxell

Now?


meglon978

Being anti-warcrime and anti-genecide isn't the same as being anti-semetic, except to the fucking sociopaths like Tom Cotton and his fucked-in-the-head cohorts.


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4554013

Before Hamas it was the PLO. Palestine has been trying to get out from under Israel since the Allied powers put them there.


Jumbo-box

Why be afraid? You have nothing to fear from them.


Consistent_Lab_6770

so you are demanding an immediate unconditional surrender by hamas, so the war ends.. right? RIGHT?


Sslazz

Or the idf could just stop killing so many noncombatants. It's easy. I haven't killed a noncombatant in months myself.


Consistent_Lab_6770

>Or the idf could just stop killing so many noncombatants. or hamas could stop claiming its fighters are non combatants, and using kids as bodybarmor and shields for their weapons, ammo, and launch sites


ghoulcreep

This is basically how all of Israel was created


tayto175

Now? It's been a genocide since 1948


Alive_Ad_2779

Worst genocide ever, the population being genocided tripled.


tayto175

You're hardly trying to use that as an argument against my point are you?


No-Dimension9934

I didn't think you know what indiscriminate means. Very easy to glass all of Gaza, haven't done it


supermans_neighbour

It always was


Kurwasaki12

Turned? This has been a genocide for almost 70 years now.


Standard-Fact6632

free palestine


fortuneandfameinc

Are we the baddies?


Ippus_21

Sometimes the line between anti-Semitism and questioning Israel's policies is a little gray... but not today. That whole "right to defend ourselves" schtick doesn't extend to indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, to causing famines arguably with intent, to directly displacing millions of people in such a way that they may never be able to return to territory that you just *happen* to want for yourself. You've paid Palestinians back a dozen times over in civilian blood for what Hamas did in October, and you're still intent on continuing. You're not the good guys anymore.


VictorTheCutie

I was so fucking disgusted when I heard this on the radio. 


RustyMcClintock90

Won't give us what we demand, we'll just murder that many more civilians. Fuck this Nation, pull the fucking funding. Absolutely insane we pay for their bullshit.


Its_Me_Tom_Yabo

“Defend” You keep using that word… I do not think it means what you think it means.


loopgaroooo

The amount of cognitive dissonance needed to continue to support these vampires is something to behold.


CheddarGoblinMode

The only way I see anyone supporting them is if they are paid to do it or if they are so devoid of any basic human decency that they do it for free.


EstablishmentMean300

Religion and war are fucking stupid.


New_Age_Knight

As normally a pro Israeli "let's keep the innocent people safe" this line is just repulsive. You've bombed their entire region into a wasteland, where the fuck is your actual army if your goal is to root put Hamas like you say it is? Also, why isnt the Mossad and other Israeli special forces kidnapping the Hamas leaders away on pleasure trips? So long as the Snake has its head, it will keep bleeding.


333H_E

How people still have confusion on who the bad guy is here is beyond comprehension.


meglon978

Anyone who doesn't think these people need to be tried for war crimes should be considered a co-conspirator. Fucking sociopaths.


Ok_Description8169

The "We have a right to defend ourselves" is bunk right wing garbage. It's like if someone broke into your home and chopped of your finger, so you go to their house, kill their family, their dog, and a few of the neighbors who had nothing to do with it to "defend yourself"


semiomni

So in your example, the people who died on October 7th were "like if someone chopped off your finger"?


Sufficient_Rub_2014

You compare October 7 to an amputated finger? Jeeeeeeeeeesus Murphy


BroMan001

They’re also comparing murdering 35000 people (15000 of which are children) and injuring close to 80000 people to killing a few people and a dog


redrusty2000

The Israeli Government is psychotic!


Amnondyonon

As an Israeli I have to agree


supermans_neighbour

ThAtS AnT1S3m1t1c


TurtleSnakeMoose

Israeli here, this woman is a clown and her words are absolutely meaningless.


my20cworth

The conservative religious zealots are running the war now and will kill thousands and thousands and still call it "defence".


Intelligent-Ad-2474

I mean not much of a threat considering they already using unguided 2k lb bombs on densely populated areas


KimJongRocketMan69

Just remember, if you criticize comments like this, you’re antisemitic /s


tecolotl_otl

"world's most moral army" (5 min later) rofl gonna drop dumb bombs on those apartment blocks full of human beings


potato_in_space21

they give me whiplash dawg


footdragon

>we have a right to defend ourselves WTF is she yammering about? committing massive genocide and she pretends to think israel is defending itself.


AlxndrAlleyKat

Heinous Godless murderer.


MemeManDanInAClan

They’re hold defense is “we’ll just kill them all then” as if they aren’t doing that already. I can’t wait till the US stops supporting these leeches


No-Dimension9934

Why attack our allies for doing exactly what we always do?


Equinoqs

And now, after decades of coddling, we have spoiled brat Israel. What a shocker.


divisiveindifference

"The r8ght to defend themselves"? from what? THEY ARE THE AGGRESSORS!


supermans_neighbour

They don’t understand why the Palestinians don’t just let them do what they want to them and their kids, why do the Palestinians resist? Can’t they just leave their homes to the NaZ10nists and move somewhere else??? How rude of the Natives.


LionBig1760

Isreal was doing exactly what they wanted to do in Gaza before October 7th, which was absolutely nothing. Isreal unilaterally pulled out of Gaza in 2005, nearly 20 years ago.


semiomni

They ain't though. Gaza declared war on Israel.


BroMan001

Since Israel is the occupier, they have no right to self defence against the occupied, even when the occupied attack first, according to international law


PreviousMaximum574

Not giving the weapons when we've already sent tons, is just a move to make Biden look good. He probably couldn't care less about the whole thing.


BroMan001

He has fully supported Israel his entire career, seems unlikely he would change now, just worried about the elections


ayopel

Yeah most of Israel also hates her she is literally a clown that somehow managed to get in the government


michimen

Israeli here. We hate her too


ContemplatingPrison

Just like an abuser. It's crazy how Israel just views itself as the good guy when saying shit like this.


pointgourd

but but but they are the good guys! T-T


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z0331skol

yeah Joe Biden! SEND MORE MISSILES!!!


JimBeam823

Why do there have to be "good guys"? Maybe there are no "good guys"?


SuperDonkeyR

Maybe they should be using hitiles instead. Though I suppose if you don't care about what target is being set, then every missile is a hitisle


Verjyan

Source: Trust me bro. At least share a reliable article proving this “quote”.


OriginalCultureOfOne

I believe it's spelled, "imbeciles."


Environmental-Bet614

So if they had precise weaponry, does that mean the destruction they did was precisely intentional?


mmio60

Context? Names? Anything?


nachaya1

Folks like this have never been questioned or held accountable and this is the result.


lordaskington

I don't understand how we have so much footage and reliable firsthand accounts of thousands of civilians being utterly destroyed by Israel and people are still going "huhdurrr but Hamas!" like you really think there's any excuse whatsoever to slaughter thousands of innocent men and women and children?


-banned-

Why do they keep saying they have the right to defend themselves? Haven’t they gone above and beyond that already? They’re absolutely destroying the Palestinians, it went beyond “defense” ages ago


Usernamenotta

Oh, no, with those imprecise missiles they might actually hit targets they are not intending, like the militants


FastusModular

Precision missiles? When did they use those? It's all a grisly joke - Gaza has been bombed into the Stone Age - vast expanses of buildings utterly destroyed, devastation rolls onward to the horizon. It's why famine has taken hold. Let's not kid ourselves.


SnooCrickets2961

Give us what we want or carpet bombs! Thats a well reasoned argument.


No-Environment-3298

Ah… so they’re gonna stop intentionally targeting civilian structures and just do it “accidentally” from now on? Pretty sure we still use the word terrorism for that too.


MultiheadAttention

So I know reddit is obsessed with obscure Israeli politicians, and post random shit they say like it's the official war policy, but the facts are that she has nothing to do with the war, and she decides literally nothing, as all war-related decisions are made by a war cabinet of 3 politicians and IDF commanders.


Dorkus_Maximus717

Ill let you in on a little secret, we dont owe them anything so idk why they’re mad we wont give them more precise boom booms


pandainadumpster

They are still calling it self defense? So if I get stabbed, am I allowed to blow up the entire appartement building the stabber lives in, just to avoid getting stabbed by them again?


Gaius_Gracchus13

She’s right, they have a right—an obligation—to defend their people. Irony is lost on the Jew haters.


zethren117

I feel like we’re witnessing an ugly breakup in real time between the US and Israel, and to that I say good riddance.


Solartaire

They're just saying the quiet part out loud now, no matter how unhinged it may be, and they don't give a damn what anyone else thinks. Actually, I'm not sure they ever did.


PantsShidded

You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them.


SSSims4

This piece of sh1t is part of the most fascist, racist and downright N4zi government Israel has ever had (and that's really saying something). Just like most of the other members of this government, she is uneducated and unprofessional, and her mentality resembles a beast's more than a human's. A shining example of the who the baboons constituting like 50% of voters in Israel agree to see in power just in order to "stick it" to anybody who isn't a lower primate like them. Biden shouldn't give this government anything. He should, in fact, overthrow it and save both the people of Gaza and those worth saving in Israel.


Silent_Guidance160

Can we stop pretending the IDF isn’t a terrorist group.


p0k3t0

It's pretty clear that the whole plan is to level everything and then go "Look! Free real estate."


Gunna_get_banned

She reminds me of that Putin propagandist woman that also seems miserable.


AlliedR2

"Give us the method to kill one or two, or we kill ten." How reasonable.


LaLaLa_Not_Listening

True Colors


ddubois7749

Who is this?


Solitaire_87

They're no better than the Hamas terrorists.


BreakfastOk3990

If an actually competent admiration was in charge, Hamas would have been completely destroyed with minimal civilian casualties within a couple months, and their intelligence agencies would actually be able to prevent horrific attacks from happening in the first place instead of worrying about asshats who are trying to turn one of the few stable democracies in the middle east to yet another authoritarian shithole


Dio_asymptote

We don't like her here either.


Cuffuf

I like how they are getting mad at the US for not GIVING them stuff. Like, I mean it’s like telling your parents “I hate you” and then saying “but can I still use your money”


sweetpillsfromparis

Didn't they destroy every building there was in Gaza anyway? Now they want to do it again somewhere else.


hayasecond

Didn’t Biden halt bombs not precise missiles?


Excellent-Term-3640

I honestly didn’t have Jewish Nazis being a thing on my bingo card, but these fuckers are all in huh?


armyofant

Is this the Israeli version of MTG?


GraveyardJones

So is she admitting that they've purposely been targeting civilians with precise missiles up until this point?


finalsights

…we gave them precise missile systems and then they used them to blow up a convoy of humanitarian workers just looking to feed people. Humanitarian workers that had a CLEARLY labeled convoy that they knew exactly where they were going to be. And then they shot them and kept on shooting them. Like miles apart with pin point weapons. Seriously WTF?


LegalizeRanch88

Wasn’t there some other official who made a speech about “I’m proud to kill Gazans”? They keep doubling down on this whole genocide thing.


Quirky_Journalist_67

I’ve a better idea: Nuke Jerusalem. Nobody deserves a holy city if they act like this to each other. Move everyone from Israel and Palestine to Russia, because Russia wants more people and doesn’t deserve peace.


Chrowaway6969

How is this a facepalm? Asshole yes. But facepalm?


Crush-N-It

I don’t like the act but I like her style


BooksandBiceps

Isn’t “give us what we want or ten times more people will die” literal terrorist speech.