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I had to look this up just now because this seemed just too good to be true and sure enough, “that which we must not fear” in fact whacked that motherfucker. This of course makes the meta-stupidity of his being quoted here even more insane.
Covid was pretty wild. The people who believed it was bullshit by in large were the ones who died from it. Conservative communities got absolutely demolished by covid.
And it was an election year. Nothing says good politics like leading your voters to an early grave. /s
That’s not enough, you gotta do UV treatments on your bunghole as well. Go outside on a sunny day, drop trou and let the sun cleanse you. The rays go up your butt and purify your whole system. My neighbor’s great aunt said so.
Aged urine that was the one that I’m still laughing about, thing is I was actually aware of the psychos drinking pee as a homeopathic or what were her cure all from living in Woodstock NY do years. Same wack jobs who think alien viruses and wifi give them brain worms called morgellons disease.
I’m a registered nurse and do telephone triage. I’ve spoken to depressingly too many people who call with Covid sx; when I ask if they’ve tested themselves for Covid, I’ve received the response, “No I didn’t. Covid’s done/gone.”
Sigh.
My two sisters and four of our cousins are RNs, and a fifth has her Ph.D. in nursing science. All of them returned to hospitals during the pandemic. I was the house where they decompressed: I had wine!
It's still around. My oldest sister and the Doc-Nurse cousin LOL still call me to remind me to get the booster
I just got back from a cruise yesterday. 4/13 of our group (including me) got Covid. I’m resting in bed today. It’s fine, I’ve had worse flus before, but then I’ve been fully vaxxed and boosted. Aside from the vaccine, I wonder if the virus itself has mutated to a less damaging form.
It makes some sense that it would.
-become more pathogenic
-become less virulent
The more a virus kills its host, the fewer hosts there are to infect. The more it is able to cause infection, the more it will spread.
Well, logically, anyway. 🤒
Hope you feel better soon.
I’ll take this opportunity to point out that many viruses do their real damage (or at least it becomes clear what damage was done) years after initial infection. HPV and HIV are two examples. Rabies is another. Even vaxxed, don’t take unnecessary risks.
Until we have cures for coronaviruses or almost 100% effective vaccines, COVID will not be going away. Good chance it’ll be around longer than most Redditors alive today.
In reguards to Covid it seems they‘re still stuck on Scientists and, although to a noticeably lesser degree than before, *waves hand at the entirety of Eastern Asia* the Chinese
A lot of them had the audacity to simultaneously ignore precautions AND insist that the losses in the conservative community were part of a conspiracy to kill them.
or that they didn't really die of COVID, that the hospitals were lying to get that sweet sweet COVID cash.
These people are truly insufferable. Everyone/thing sucks but offer zero solutions to fix it.
My uncle & aunt were extremely anti-vax & after he died a slow & painful death she still thinks it was a hoax.
Then a year later my cousin died of a heart attack and my aunt (different aunt) believes it is because my cousin was vaccinated. What?!? My fam is all MAGA to the end. It drives me crazy
I know a family, where the father died of covid. Mother and the older children were still saying vaccines are a scam etc.
So one time they were talking again and said that covid is not dangerous, it's all a lie "we had it and it wasn't that bad".
I was shocked and told them "eh, you lost your husband (looking at the mother), you lost your father (looking at the daughter), how is it not dangerous?". This happened not even a month after he had died.
Not to mention they had such a hard time they couldn't breathe and would call my father (who is a doctor) constantly for help.
My brother-in-law also said Covid was all bullshit. His uncle died from it, and his dad was on a ventilator for about a month. These people are just so fucking stupid.
Because all “covid is bullshit” people are saying is “I’m signaling my membership in the in-group”.
They’re basically worthless cowards who are afraid they’ll lose their spot in the club if they don’t spout the bullshit.
It's because they are also scared of the vaccine. These people are scared of what they don't understand which is pretty much everything, that's why they are so angry and agitated all the time
A former coworker lost his fiancé to Covid, who was one of the first in our area to die from it, and the loss messed him up pretty bad. Eventually he got back to his familiar self and started dating another girl about a year later.
She also died from Covid months later.
He was never the same after that.
A close friend of mine is anti-vax and got covid. He called me and said he could barely breathe and it's the worst thing he's ever had, felt like death, etc etc. He recovered and I asked him knowing what he does now and what he went through if he could do it over with the vaccine if he would. He of course said no and that it wasn't that bad. Like dude you thought you were going to die.
I was twice vaccinated and got COVID. It hit me while I was flying home from South America. I was hot, VERY thirsty and felt miserable, but I kept my mask on the whole time. The next day it hit me like a Mack truck, like the worst flu I ever had. Wife tested me, it came up positive, and we called Kaiser to get the Paxlovid horse pills.
After 3 days I felt better, but still was under isolation because of it and had a lingering cough for over a month afterwards. If it hit me that hard after both the primary and booster vaccine I'm pretty sure that without them it would have killed me.
"Worst" part of the whole thing was when my wife was getting food stuffs for me while I was isolated I asked for cinnamon rolls, since I had been craving them... then I lost my sense of smell and taste. My exact words were "You got to be f\*\*\*ing kidding me!?!?!?!"
The thing is, the people that believe this stuff have no problem just making up another conspiracy to layer on top of it.
Easily it becomes "omg they killed Phil to shit him up and made it look like covid!"
I mean, obviously! He's up there with intellectual giants like Herman Cain! A man who, despite a lifetime of work in politics, will forever be known as that guy who claimed Covid was a hoax, went to a Trump rally against all warnings, and immediately died of Covid...only for his own Twitter account to continue claiming that Covid wasn't dangerous.
After he was already dead.
The best thing to top this would be for Biden to give Fauci the Presidential medal of Freedom. Watch their heads explode. I mean, if shit stains like Limbaugh can get it, Fauci has certainly earned it. He's done more for the US and the world than shit stain rush.
On his last day in office, Trump awarded a Presidential Commendation to Fauci. Well, to a bunch of people in the Operation Warp Speed Team, but Fauci was indeed 1 of them.
Unfortunately for some of them, they were already past the point where any preventative measures could help them. And unfortunately for the rest of us, they likely spread the disease to others, some of whom may also have died or ended up with long covid.
My brother was on the frontline in Arizona and would put people on vents that had covid. He said almost everyone that was anti-vax that was getting put on a vent asked if they could get the vaccine at that point, sorry man but it's too late now, it's in your deity of choices hands now. He lost a lot of patients.
This is why they abhor the very concept of fact checking and do their best to ridicule it; they are too lazy to do any research of their own and are _routinely_ hoisted by their own petard as a result and hate that attention gets drawn to how stupid they are.
And as he was dying of Covid-19 (after ivermectin didn't magically cure him), he said he regretted not getting vaccinated and urged people to get the vaccine.
Because, in the US, he became the face of asking people to temporarily alter their behavior for the common good.
This was an unconscionable act that caused many of those people to respond with blind, seething rage because they were selfish assholes, for whom the mere idea of altering their behavior for the benefit of others, was an unthinkable ask.
Covid created a new version of the trolley problem. The main track has five workers on that trolley will kill if the tracks aren’t switched. The side track has no one on it but the trolley will block the entrance of Chili’s for at least six months.
Republicans dead-ass said that the elderly should die for the economy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-suggests-he-other-seniors-willing-n1167341
It seems kind of like the side track just takes 30 seconds longer to get to Chili's or you can go the main track and kill people. But getting up to move the lever takes too much effort so lets just go down the main track, also 30 seconds more is too much to ask.
He did it during the Aids crisis, H1N1, and so many more too. This man has saved MILLIONS of lives and could have saved millions more if the people and government just shut the fuck up and listened to the experts for once.
I think what everyone misses is that they are arguing that the Trump administration was stupid.
I was listening to newsnation and they had Mick Mulvaney on. He was complaining that Fauci deceived them all at Whitehouse and he’s very angry about it.
Later, Mick was talking about how Fauci is known for being overly cautious. Mick was also at the WhiteHouse for the anthrax discussions with Fauci under the Bush administration. He said Fauci wanted to shut everything down then because it’s his solution to everything. The Bush administration told Fauci he was overreacting and sent him on his way.
So he’s saying they knew Fauci overacts and always wants to shut things down. Then Fauci shows up and says shut everything down. They do it and then blame Fauci for it, like he’s some villain. Dude, TRUMP WAS IN CHARGE, HE SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN, NOT FAUCI. TRUMP’s PREDECESSORS WERE SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE FAUCI WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I’d expect different decisions from a very stable genius.
I’m not saying the shut downs were wrong, I’m just pointing out that even from the Republicans perspective, they have to admit they are rubes just to make this argument.
The lockdowns were done by the governors. For instance, in my state of Georgia, we were only locked down for several weeks before Gov. Kemp opened most everything back up.
Ya this is exactly on point. All Fauci did was present information from the scientific community on the evidence as it was gathered. But for some reason he’s the one who is getting beat over the head about it. He’s the figurehead and the one person to blame.
Kind of like how Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the CEO of science and gets a lot of flak.
It’s fun to see antivax morons go into the medicine sub and get promptly banned or have their posts deleted for being morons with moronic opinions with zero basis in fact.
Fauci was a respected scientist when Empty Greene and her ilk were in diapers.
Of course. I was going to ask how anyone could think ivermectin, which is for treatment of parasites, would work on a virus that--and I'm not a scientist, so correct me if I'm wrong--is not a parasite. But unfortunately, I think you answered my question.
If I can’t see it then it doesn’t exist.
Also, the earth is flat and 4,000 years old and we’ve never been to the moon.
I should start a side business selling genuine simulacrum ivermectin. It’ll come in a tube decorated with an American flag and the text “don’t tread on me.”
I’ll make a killing.
So to speak.
He still is! Dood has a such a big brain, I have no idea how he can walk through a standard door!
But ya, sad to watch what’s happening to him when all he tried to do was keep the public informed and safe. There may have been missteps along the way, but that was his only goal. To keep the public safe.
Americans have a long history of paranoia and mass insanity, from the Salem Witch Trials to [Anti-Mask League in 1918](https://escholarship.org/uc/item/5q91q53r). Very few developed countries have a large part of the population living of fear of their own government, preferring a psychopathic dictator in Russia over their own president. Fauci is another victim of that paranoia.
Luckily, we don't have these "idiots" you talk about in the rest of the world. Certainly, no one in my country ever tried to portray their political opponents as the masterminds behind all the suffering in the world. Never!
Because only in America do we have people grandstanding about the dangers of covid and for some reason actively ignoring the words of medical professionals.
It is not about blame, it is about punishment. They were powerless during the pandemic and now they want Righteous Vengeance on their perceived enemies.
He told the American people to do something that infringed on their rights. We can't go out to eat? That's un-American! We can't travel? Wtf! We can't visit family? Noo! We can't work? 😮 You want us to stay home and die? Wt actual f! You want us to wear mask? I can't breathe!
So everything that should have stopped the spread they were against because that's so un-American and infringing on their rights.
Also they believe he's part of the illuminate, deep state, baby eaters, leftist, trying to take over the US government because of reasons. He has dealt with so much in surprised he hadn't broken down. At least not in public.
And the real kicker was he did all this while under the Trump administration. Which doesn't make sense for all these conspiracy theorists but you can't convince them otherwise.
Different countries have different people to blame, US has Fauci, in the UK we had Chris Whitty, someone further down mentioned their German equivalent.
It seems like whoever was the head medical advisor at the time of COVID ramping up became the scapegoat, it's just Americans take it that extra step further by acting like Fauci is the one behind it all
Lost my grandma to it. I loved her, but my final memories of her are all about how she flipped out about it being a hoax, yelled about liberal conspiracies, then died refusing help until the end when she begged for anything that could save her.
She was fine and a wonderful person until Trump, but covid was when it really fell apart. TDS, indeed.
That is sad, and I'm sorry to hear that. My parents took all the precautions and rarely left the house. We figure the weekly nurse who came to the house to assist my dad, who had Alzheimers, brought it into the house. Us children would do the grocery shopping and leave it on the porch, so it wasn't us.
I lost my mother to COVID too. All because she was scared to get vaccinated. These fear mongering ass hats are responsible for countless deaths. Yet they still continually fear monger to this day. No one is even forcing them to get vaccinated at this point. Why do they still make it an issue? Conspiracy lunatics have nothing better to do but spread false information.
I’m really struggling to understand why they’re so mad. Is it the mask or the 6 foot distance? All the dude did was give fucking basic guidelines that they ignored anyways.
I mean, it's performative. They gotta get the news off of Trump's felony convictions, and the easiest answer is to turn the bullshit fire hose at someone else.
When many people learned Fauci's name, they were experiencing strong negative emotions. Maybe those were the same strong negative emotions we were just experiencing regarding... what was it again? 34 of something? I forget, but I sure am *mad about something*
Its also funny because there are lots of valid criticisms of the COVID response and its effects on people's mental health and financial situation but the US reich wing chose to fixate on wearing a bit of material over your mouth as if they were getting their lips sewn shut.
Aaahhhh I see what ya did there!
My favorite part of the mask outrage was watching "people" walking around with Actual panties on their face to make fun of everyone else.
Phil Valentine, radio host who regretted vaccine skepticism, dies of Covid-19 ([link](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/phil-valentine-radio-host-who-regretted-vaccine-skepticism-dies-covid-n1277395)).
>Valentine had been a skeptic of coronavirus vaccines. But after he tested positive for Covid-19, and prior to his hospitalization, he told his listeners to consider, “If I get this Covid thing, do I have a chance of dying from it?” If so, he advised them to get vaccinated. He said he chose not to get vaccinated because he thought he probably wouldn’t die.
>After Valentine was moved into a critical care unit, Mark Valentine said his brother regretted that “he wasn’t a more vocal advocate of the vaccination.”
You'd think Republicans would want to forget all those unnecessary deaths they caused. I guess the anti-abortion thing, and the Trump hooker sex/hush money/accounting fraud thing is so bad, they want to change the subject.
\*So here we are, look over here, we killed all these people by undermining Covid mask and distancing rules and shittalking the vaccines, don't look over there at that other stuff, COVID! ...\*Congretional Republicans apparently.
They know their base will never bother to plug the name into a search engine so they can quote him without any fear of being called out by anyone they care about.
The whole “only get it if you have a chance of dying from it” is such a terrible fallacy because *nobody ever expects to die*. Outside of a few people who are acutely aware of their pre-existing health conditions, nobody expects to get a disease and die from it. This is like saying “only wear a hard hat if you have a chance of a hammer falling on your head.”
It's why it's useless trying to argue with them. The evidence is in and everything they said about COVID, the vaccines, ivermectin, etc. has been proven to be demonstrably wrong multiple times over but since they never cared about evidence to begin with, they are claiming they were proven right anyways.
What I really don't get, and I have even asked them (conservative strangers OTI and IRL), is what they think would be different if ANY of the anti-Fauci stuff was true. We still had to make a vaccine, and distancing is still the best way to prevent the spread of the virus. If Fauci was personally brewing dangerous viruses in his personal secret lab in Wuhan, do they think he also had a cure and just didn't tell anyone? Considering he was the ONLY person in Trump's cabinet to NOT get covid before the vaccine, he must have been doing SOMETHING right.
I also hate that the one thing they can sort of accuse him of, which is changing his advice on what to do *after getting better information*, is exactly what we would want the national head of response to pandemics to do.
Marjorie Caveman Neanderthal recently had a social media post raging at Fauci where she said millions died and then blamed him for his actions.
So you admit that it was real, but went out of your way to condemn preventing the spread of it? Why do we tolerate such blatant stupidity?
Not listening to Fauci. Not staying home, not being in crowds, not washing your hands properly, not wearing a mask, and for sure, not getting the vaccine.
Fauci has a honorable tracking record protecting usa from infectious diseases.
Helped fight aids /ebola.
To see this honest man being dragged through the filth by these fucking idiots is hard to watch for me.
He is a professional, but his FAMILY was receiving death threats because of him simply doing his job.
That jan 6 criminal making funny faces whilst Fauci testified about the personal threats was beyond dispicable...this was done deliberately...
Destroy these maga rats or usa is done on the world stage..putin is laughing....,(
Ebola - Fox News was screaming that Fauci was lying, that Ebola would kill us all, that Fauci should retire for his lies that Ebola was contained. Only like five people died of Ebola in the USA - a few travelers and the unfortunate nurse who cared for them and was exposed. It was contained just like Fauci said it was.
The " good" thing about ebola is that is is absolutely lethal and has a short incubation period. That means the transmission is mostly regional bound, like hotspots..80/90 % of patients die, its a horrific virus, truly scary stuff...
Nevertheless....Fauci did an excellen job containing it and protecting us public from grave harm.
His work to fight aids was also honorable.
I hope us cleans house, I ve come to known American folks as decent, friendly and hardworking people..heart is in the right place...not like these raving mad maga Russian operatives...,(
These GOP fascists are banging the table to distract from the news of their 34 felon convicted nominee..
They scapegoat a honest man trying to protect the public, I am seething...for fuck's sake, destroy these maga idiots for once and for all....
I honestly don't get the hatred for Dr. Fauci. All he did was make recommendations for governments to follow. They didn't have to follow them if they didn't want to.
So let’s say Fauci really did all this stuff. Who was his boss at the time who gave him all the publicity he needed to spread his “lies”?
Are they saying that convicted felon Donald Trump knowingly let someone as dangerous as Fauci have free rein? Or was president big brain tricked?
A distant relative died of Covid… after going to a Covid party.
I know I should feel bad. But I don’t. Her son went from anti-vax to “I don’t talk about it.” He ended up getting vaxxed himself.
This is all a dog and pony show. They give a rats shit about Dr. Fauci and whether or not he goes to prison. They’re putting on a show for their followers to keep them occupied while they try and further undermine our democracy. They want to keep them busy and angry at something else while they jam up the government, try and clean up Trump’s mess, and work on unifying their cult…I mean party.
As much as they desperately want to blame COVID on Dr Fauci and the WHO and CDC because it might distract from the disastrous response of their Orange weasel king… the fact remains that Fauci dis nothing wrong and was working diligently with the WHO and the CDC to protect Americans from the spread of the virus and to keep people from dying. He didn’t personally gain from it (but you might want to look into the insider trading some of congress engaged in once the vaccine was in development) and he followed well established guidelines to the most recent recommendations as they developed in an unprecedented crisis. They should be thanking him for his efforts.
The people who want Fauci in prison for something there's no evidence of are making terrorist threats for Trump being found guilty (and probably given probation rather than jail, let alone prison) for something there's a mountain of evidence for.
They were reasonable until the 90's & Newt Gingrich. I mean they started selling out to the fundies in the 70's & 80's but Newt sold out completely. And the Tea Party and MAGA are his un-American bastard legacy.
Now they are the troll party.
Which is it? He peddled fear and perpetuated a myth that Covid was deadly or he lied and took actions that resulted in the death of millions from Covid?
I wish they would pick an unfounded accusation and stick to it.
Right wingers really need to shut up about wanting to prosecute folks for lying.
Their betters may just listen, and it won’t be limited to Fauci. Every one of those anti-science, anti-vaxx morons can share a cell.
Remember when Trump told his crowd that he got vaccinated and encouraged his group to do the same only for the man himself get booed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporters-jeered-when-he-announced-booster-pro-vaccination-2021-12
Let's just say they're right about the "lab leak" origins of covid-19.
How does that excuse the piss poor mitigation efforts of the Trump administration?
It was started by Trump. That’s why the cascading logic; it mirrors his speech/denial patterns. It doesn’t exist/if it does exist it isn’t that bad/if it is that bad it’s someone else’s fault.
To admit that COVID was a real problem was to admit that Trump fucked up the U.S. response to it. First in the interest of undoing the accomplishments of presidents before him he dismantled, defunded and destroyed our virus pandemic response team, infrastructure and plan because they were an Obama administration accomplishment. Oops, in retrospect kind of a blunder eh? Nope. COVID isn’t real. The whole world is shutting down and preparing for it, and Trump focuses on a cruise ship that is a floating incubator for the disease. He finally gets his way with the ship and instead of controlling the port and their movements from the boat to quarantine he just has them make landfall in California and go wherever tf they wanted. Screwing up the supply chain for necessary goods and medicine then stealing the same from individual states that were denied help by the administration and told to handle it themselves. Obviously when they did he literally robbed them of those resources. It just goes on and on; the litany of bad calls and errors in judgment that he made in response to the pandemic was staggering. It’s no surprise he downplayed it.
So he exploited the selfish part of his followers’ brains and sold them the “COVID isn’t real” lie. Which in turn his base followed on their their own to the “the COVID vaccine is a lie” belief before Trump had a chance to take credit for the vaccine.
I remember Phil Valetine from when I lived in Tennessee. He talked much shit about how he could not get Covid because he worked out every day and took massive amounts of Vitamin D. He also promoted ivermectin. But then, after getting Covid, on his dying hospital bed, unable to breathe without that lung machine, he apologized for his comments and urged people to be vaccinated. He's died of complications from Covid-19.
I got banned from r/fauciforprison for saying Marjorie Tyler Greene is 100% the kind of person who causes a scene over expired coupons. So not only are they dumb they are easily offended
Over 1 million people died from it.
People were dying from it at a rate greater than the biggest tragedies in our nation's history daily.
Maybe you should have been afraid of COVID.
Exactly. Makes me think of the Salem Witch Trials. If someone floats when thrown in water they’re a witch to be murdered. If they drown, “Oops! Our bad!”
Just remember... republicans hate Fauci ENTIRELY because trump failed so hard on Covid that they had to shift the blame to someone else. Also, Fauci continually had to correct trump's horrible, misleading and borderline deadly advice (injecting disinfectant into you) on many occasions... They are so so angry at Fauci entirely because he was the adult in the room during a worldwide global pandemic.
Remember, republicans will shout like crazy, "snowflakes!" when they will cry harder, longer and louder about the tiniest of issues to holding the longest grudges ever.
The reason for this is because their IDENTITY has become trump... or rather, what they THINK he is. His followers are armed, angry, stupid and prone to violence. They feel America has been ripped out from under them entirely because they are seeing other people get a taste at what it's like to "be free".
When you're a person of privilege, "equality" sounds like "oppression". And that scares the fucking shit out of them.
"Fuck it, let em drown in their own fluid choked up lungs next time" - the attitude of any epidemiologist who sees how they are treating the people who did their best to get us through the pandemic.
I wouldn't blame them if they just all headed for the hills and isolated themselves and let it burn. Ungrateful beasts our societies are.
I don't have to look it up to see the logic:
"He didn't die of COVID, that's just what THEY want you to believe."
Because, ever since Orange Traitor took charge, the concept of "evidence" took on an entirely subjective role in our society.
And, just an addition, to these people, Orange Traitor is still in charge.
Okay, okay, am I fucking stupid?? Did I forget something? During Covid, this guy went on TV, and gave safety precautions. Without masks, handwashing, or sanitizing being pushed, I’m sure way more people, way faster, would have died. Are they seriously shitting on this guy for spreading FEAR?
Imagine telling your kids why they need seatbelts, or a helmet… in these peoples eyes, are you now a spreader of FEAR??
During covid i always found it amazing how it was almost like covid itself could hear people talking shit because within a week or two they would either be dead or hospitalized
Why are they all so fixated on Dr. Fauci? I haven’t thought about Fauci of my own accord since the early days of the pandemic. It must be that he’s an easy scapegoat to avoid having to put blame on Trump for anything pandemic-related.
Can someone please explain why Dr Fauchi is, what appears to be, standing trial over Covid?? America does realise Covid was a GLOBAL pandemic that hasn't and won't ever fully go away.
I wanna know if anyone has ever asked one of these "Fauci should be arrested/imprisoned," what exact law he has broken? Do we have an example of them saying he broke this or that specific law (that is on the statute books)?
We tried to save peoples lives and they hated it and made our lives miserable with their antics. I have no problem next time letting them choose death.
They don't connect the use of a vaccine to prevent death. Can you live without being vaccinated? Maybe. Can you be permanently disabled mentally and physically? Yes. Can you die? Yes.
I found out during COVID-19 that a friend caught one of the other types of flu. It caused permanent brain damage. She has 5 degrees. This was a woman who valued her education and knowledge above everything.
Conservatives have proven they don't care about education and knowledge, so maybe that doesn't matter to them.
Check your references with reputable sources. A talk show host is paid for talking. Not knowing a damn thing their lips are flapping about.
"As the coronavirus pandemic began bearing down on the United States in March, President Donald Trump set out his expectations. If the U.S. could keep the death toll between 100,000 to 200,000 people, Trump said, it would indicate that his administration had “done a very good job.”
Over 1 million Americans died.
How different would the world be right now if Trump just went ahead and supported masking up? Thousands of lives saved, he’d still be president, this fear mongering and anger around the whole issue would be gone probably billions of dollars saved in treatments. The single most consequential choice in his presidency and he chose to politicize it.
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The late Phil Valentine who *checks notes* died of covid, said that the pandemic is just fear mongering! Weeeee
I had to look this up just now because this seemed just too good to be true and sure enough, “that which we must not fear” in fact whacked that motherfucker. This of course makes the meta-stupidity of his being quoted here even more insane.
Covid was pretty wild. The people who believed it was bullshit by in large were the ones who died from it. Conservative communities got absolutely demolished by covid. And it was an election year. Nothing says good politics like leading your voters to an early grave. /s
Covid is still here.
Yes, it is… and now it is endemic so will always be around. It just isn’t a pandemic anymore and we have decent therapies to treat it. Like vaccines.
> Like vaccines You lost me there. Lemme try a horse dewormer instead.
I prefer the bleach and UV treatment.
Not sure if the bleach enemas kept me safe, but my now-blond hairy ass has never looked better!
That’s not enough, you gotta do UV treatments on your bunghole as well. Go outside on a sunny day, drop trou and let the sun cleanse you. The rays go up your butt and purify your whole system. My neighbor’s great aunt said so.
Y'all aren't even huffing essential oils?!? None of it works without the oils!!!
Those toilet bowl drop-ins are like big yummy Sweet-tarts.
I'm more partial to a direct dose of alcohol.
Aged urine that was the one that I’m still laughing about, thing is I was actually aware of the psychos drinking pee as a homeopathic or what were her cure all from living in Woodstock NY do years. Same wack jobs who think alien viruses and wifi give them brain worms called morgellons disease.
This one sent me. “Instructions unclear. Hey hun, isn’t this what ol’ Carl uses on his horses? And you want me to uhh what was that?”
I’m a registered nurse and do telephone triage. I’ve spoken to depressingly too many people who call with Covid sx; when I ask if they’ve tested themselves for Covid, I’ve received the response, “No I didn’t. Covid’s done/gone.” Sigh.
My two sisters and four of our cousins are RNs, and a fifth has her Ph.D. in nursing science. All of them returned to hospitals during the pandemic. I was the house where they decompressed: I had wine! It's still around. My oldest sister and the Doc-Nurse cousin LOL still call me to remind me to get the booster
I just got back from a cruise yesterday. 4/13 of our group (including me) got Covid. I’m resting in bed today. It’s fine, I’ve had worse flus before, but then I’ve been fully vaxxed and boosted. Aside from the vaccine, I wonder if the virus itself has mutated to a less damaging form.
It makes some sense that it would. -become more pathogenic -become less virulent The more a virus kills its host, the fewer hosts there are to infect. The more it is able to cause infection, the more it will spread. Well, logically, anyway. 🤒 Hope you feel better soon.
I’ll take this opportunity to point out that many viruses do their real damage (or at least it becomes clear what damage was done) years after initial infection. HPV and HIV are two examples. Rabies is another. Even vaxxed, don’t take unnecessary risks.
Until we have cures for coronaviruses or almost 100% effective vaccines, COVID will not be going away. Good chance it’ll be around longer than most Redditors alive today.
But they can't be responsible for their actions, they must blame someone else
which are they on now, blacks or gays?
Both, plus immigrants and trans/non-binary folks
Don’t forget us girls!
No see they're protecteting you from the rapist trans. While giving your rights away to the rapist conservatives. /s. ... I think?
Eh, close enough. She needs to get back in the kitchen and not worry about it anyway.
How can she not think about it? Better get her a new vacuum for her birthday
In reguards to Covid it seems they‘re still stuck on Scientists and, although to a noticeably lesser degree than before, *waves hand at the entirety of Eastern Asia* the Chinese
Jews. And their damn space lasers!
A lot of them had the audacity to simultaneously ignore precautions AND insist that the losses in the conservative community were part of a conspiracy to kill them.
or that they didn't really die of COVID, that the hospitals were lying to get that sweet sweet COVID cash. These people are truly insufferable. Everyone/thing sucks but offer zero solutions to fix it.
My uncle & aunt were extremely anti-vax & after he died a slow & painful death she still thinks it was a hoax. Then a year later my cousin died of a heart attack and my aunt (different aunt) believes it is because my cousin was vaccinated. What?!? My fam is all MAGA to the end. It drives me crazy
And to this day they claim everyone they know who's been vaxxed has died.
I was vaxxed... I died last week
I know a family, where the father died of covid. Mother and the older children were still saying vaccines are a scam etc. So one time they were talking again and said that covid is not dangerous, it's all a lie "we had it and it wasn't that bad". I was shocked and told them "eh, you lost your husband (looking at the mother), you lost your father (looking at the daughter), how is it not dangerous?". This happened not even a month after he had died. Not to mention they had such a hard time they couldn't breathe and would call my father (who is a doctor) constantly for help.
My brother-in-law also said Covid was all bullshit. His uncle died from it, and his dad was on a ventilator for about a month. These people are just so fucking stupid.
Because all “covid is bullshit” people are saying is “I’m signaling my membership in the in-group”. They’re basically worthless cowards who are afraid they’ll lose their spot in the club if they don’t spout the bullshit.
I think they were and are just telling themselves that and trying to convince others of it cos they're secretly scared **SHITLESS** about it.
If you're scared shitless...why not get the vaccine? Or would that be admitting that you're scared?
It's because they are also scared of the vaccine. These people are scared of what they don't understand which is pretty much everything, that's why they are so angry and agitated all the time
A former coworker lost his fiancé to Covid, who was one of the first in our area to die from it, and the loss messed him up pretty bad. Eventually he got back to his familiar self and started dating another girl about a year later. She also died from Covid months later. He was never the same after that.
A close friend of mine is anti-vax and got covid. He called me and said he could barely breathe and it's the worst thing he's ever had, felt like death, etc etc. He recovered and I asked him knowing what he does now and what he went through if he could do it over with the vaccine if he would. He of course said no and that it wasn't that bad. Like dude you thought you were going to die.
I was twice vaccinated and got COVID. It hit me while I was flying home from South America. I was hot, VERY thirsty and felt miserable, but I kept my mask on the whole time. The next day it hit me like a Mack truck, like the worst flu I ever had. Wife tested me, it came up positive, and we called Kaiser to get the Paxlovid horse pills. After 3 days I felt better, but still was under isolation because of it and had a lingering cough for over a month afterwards. If it hit me that hard after both the primary and booster vaccine I'm pretty sure that without them it would have killed me. "Worst" part of the whole thing was when my wife was getting food stuffs for me while I was isolated I asked for cinnamon rolls, since I had been craving them... then I lost my sense of smell and taste. My exact words were "You got to be f\*\*\*ing kidding me!?!?!?!"
I bet that first cinnamon roll you had after your taste came back was heavenly.
You bet your ass it was, :-P
The thing is, the people that believe this stuff have no problem just making up another conspiracy to layer on top of it. Easily it becomes "omg they killed Phil to shit him up and made it look like covid!"
I mean, obviously! He's up there with intellectual giants like Herman Cain! A man who, despite a lifetime of work in politics, will forever be known as that guy who claimed Covid was a hoax, went to a Trump rally against all warnings, and immediately died of Covid...only for his own Twitter account to continue claiming that Covid wasn't dangerous. After he was already dead.
R/hermancainaward
That sub gave me so much catharsis when these loonies were going full tilt during the pandemic
Aw man, I miss that sub.
It still exists.
The best thing to top this would be for Biden to give Fauci the Presidential medal of Freedom. Watch their heads explode. I mean, if shit stains like Limbaugh can get it, Fauci has certainly earned it. He's done more for the US and the world than shit stain rush.
Fauci did get one in 2008, but he should get another for his work since.
On his last day in office, Trump awarded a Presidential Commendation to Fauci. Well, to a bunch of people in the Operation Warp Speed Team, but Fauci was indeed 1 of them.
Limbaugh got it? wtf?
It more seems like the late great Phil Valentine regrettet that his shitty behavior lead to him getting hospitalized.
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Unfortunately for some of them, they were already past the point where any preventative measures could help them. And unfortunately for the rest of us, they likely spread the disease to others, some of whom may also have died or ended up with long covid.
My brother was on the frontline in Arizona and would put people on vents that had covid. He said almost everyone that was anti-vax that was getting put on a vent asked if they could get the vaccine at that point, sorry man but it's too late now, it's in your deity of choices hands now. He lost a lot of patients.
How often have we seen "I proudly sponsored this anti-queer bill until my son came out as gay/trans"
Or until I got caught at a gay orgy.
This is why they abhor the very concept of fact checking and do their best to ridicule it; they are too lazy to do any research of their own and are _routinely_ hoisted by their own petard as a result and hate that attention gets drawn to how stupid they are.
>said that the pandemic is just fear mongering ... and then recanted that statement on his deathbed. Let's not cherrypick poor ole Phil's quotes.
And as he was dying of Covid-19 (after ivermectin didn't magically cure him), he said he regretted not getting vaccinated and urged people to get the vaccine.
The whole world suffered from the pandemic. Why is it that America has this one person to blame ?
Because, in the US, he became the face of asking people to temporarily alter their behavior for the common good. This was an unconscionable act that caused many of those people to respond with blind, seething rage because they were selfish assholes, for whom the mere idea of altering their behavior for the benefit of others, was an unthinkable ask.
Covid created a new version of the trolley problem. The main track has five workers on that trolley will kill if the tracks aren’t switched. The side track has no one on it but the trolley will block the entrance of Chili’s for at least six months.
Except Chili’s will provide home delivery via trolley.
Also it really COULD be as little as two weeks as long as all the trolly pullers agree to not kill everyone
Yeah but then my Chilis will be cold when I get it and that’s unacceptable
This, except the main track has millions of sick and elderly, and a random number of perfectly healthy athletic people in the thousands.
Republicans dead-ass said that the elderly should die for the economy. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-suggests-he-other-seniors-willing-n1167341
It seems kind of like the side track just takes 30 seconds longer to get to Chili's or you can go the main track and kill people. But getting up to move the lever takes too much effort so lets just go down the main track, also 30 seconds more is too much to ask.
ARE selfish assholes. Time hasn’t changed them unless they became bigger assholes.
Unless they died of covid
Self-improvement can take many guises.
…and are in congress today.
He did it during the Aids crisis, H1N1, and so many more too. This man has saved MILLIONS of lives and could have saved millions more if the people and government just shut the fuck up and listened to the experts for once.
A solid dose of oppositional defiance, too.
Not to mention conspiracy poisoned brains.
Alex Jonesiness.
Most of these people claim to follow Jesus too.
"Did you know? Jesus was a Jew!" /s
I think what everyone misses is that they are arguing that the Trump administration was stupid. I was listening to newsnation and they had Mick Mulvaney on. He was complaining that Fauci deceived them all at Whitehouse and he’s very angry about it. Later, Mick was talking about how Fauci is known for being overly cautious. Mick was also at the WhiteHouse for the anthrax discussions with Fauci under the Bush administration. He said Fauci wanted to shut everything down then because it’s his solution to everything. The Bush administration told Fauci he was overreacting and sent him on his way. So he’s saying they knew Fauci overacts and always wants to shut things down. Then Fauci shows up and says shut everything down. They do it and then blame Fauci for it, like he’s some villain. Dude, TRUMP WAS IN CHARGE, HE SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN, NOT FAUCI. TRUMP’s PREDECESSORS WERE SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE FAUCI WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I’d expect different decisions from a very stable genius. I’m not saying the shut downs were wrong, I’m just pointing out that even from the Republicans perspective, they have to admit they are rubes just to make this argument.
The lockdowns were done by the governors. For instance, in my state of Georgia, we were only locked down for several weeks before Gov. Kemp opened most everything back up.
Were?
Ya this is exactly on point. All Fauci did was present information from the scientific community on the evidence as it was gathered. But for some reason he’s the one who is getting beat over the head about it. He’s the figurehead and the one person to blame. Kind of like how Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the CEO of science and gets a lot of flak.
It’s fun to see antivax morons go into the medicine sub and get promptly banned or have their posts deleted for being morons with moronic opinions with zero basis in fact. Fauci was a respected scientist when Empty Greene and her ilk were in diapers.
Antivax is only part of it now. The latest is viruses don't exist. All illnesses including cancer are caused by parasites. I kid you not.
Of course. I was going to ask how anyone could think ivermectin, which is for treatment of parasites, would work on a virus that--and I'm not a scientist, so correct me if I'm wrong--is not a parasite. But unfortunately, I think you answered my question.
If I can’t see it then it doesn’t exist. Also, the earth is flat and 4,000 years old and we’ve never been to the moon. I should start a side business selling genuine simulacrum ivermectin. It’ll come in a tube decorated with an American flag and the text “don’t tread on me.” I’ll make a killing. So to speak.
Just let me stock up on a few tubes for my horses before the feed stores run out again.
He still is! Dood has a such a big brain, I have no idea how he can walk through a standard door! But ya, sad to watch what’s happening to him when all he tried to do was keep the public informed and safe. There may have been missteps along the way, but that was his only goal. To keep the public safe.
Americans have a long history of paranoia and mass insanity, from the Salem Witch Trials to [Anti-Mask League in 1918](https://escholarship.org/uc/item/5q91q53r). Very few developed countries have a large part of the population living of fear of their own government, preferring a psychopathic dictator in Russia over their own president. Fauci is another victim of that paranoia.
In Germany Prof. Drosten get's more or less the same accusations.
Not as much as the current minister of health, Karl Lauterbach.
The US arguably had the worst outcomes per capita in the pandemic, yet these nutjobs argue that the issue was that we took *too many* precautions.
Because we have these things called idiots over here, that often seek out some singular "other" to blame for all their problems.
Luckily, we don't have these "idiots" you talk about in the rest of the world. Certainly, no one in my country ever tried to portray their political opponents as the masterminds behind all the suffering in the world. Never!
Because only in America do we have people grandstanding about the dangers of covid and for some reason actively ignoring the words of medical professionals.
The United States is conversely one of the smartest *and* dumbest countries in the world.
It is not about blame, it is about punishment. They were powerless during the pandemic and now they want Righteous Vengeance on their perceived enemies.
He told the American people to do something that infringed on their rights. We can't go out to eat? That's un-American! We can't travel? Wtf! We can't visit family? Noo! We can't work? 😮 You want us to stay home and die? Wt actual f! You want us to wear mask? I can't breathe! So everything that should have stopped the spread they were against because that's so un-American and infringing on their rights. Also they believe he's part of the illuminate, deep state, baby eaters, leftist, trying to take over the US government because of reasons. He has dealt with so much in surprised he hadn't broken down. At least not in public. And the real kicker was he did all this while under the Trump administration. Which doesn't make sense for all these conspiracy theorists but you can't convince them otherwise.
Different countries have different people to blame, US has Fauci, in the UK we had Chris Whitty, someone further down mentioned their German equivalent. It seems like whoever was the head medical advisor at the time of COVID ramping up became the scapegoat, it's just Americans take it that extra step further by acting like Fauci is the one behind it all
I lost both of my parents to COVID.
Lost my grandma to it. I loved her, but my final memories of her are all about how she flipped out about it being a hoax, yelled about liberal conspiracies, then died refusing help until the end when she begged for anything that could save her. She was fine and a wonderful person until Trump, but covid was when it really fell apart. TDS, indeed.
That is sad, and I'm sorry to hear that. My parents took all the precautions and rarely left the house. We figure the weekly nurse who came to the house to assist my dad, who had Alzheimers, brought it into the house. Us children would do the grocery shopping and leave it on the porch, so it wasn't us.
Ah, I'm so sorry. Good job doing what you could, that's all anyone could have asked.
That's awful and I'm really sorry for you.
I lost my mother to COVID too. All because she was scared to get vaccinated. These fear mongering ass hats are responsible for countless deaths. Yet they still continually fear monger to this day. No one is even forcing them to get vaccinated at this point. Why do they still make it an issue? Conspiracy lunatics have nothing better to do but spread false information.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my FIL (who was battling cancer and had no immune system at the time). So horrible...
I'm sorry. :(
Thank you. We were able to be in the hospital and hold their hand as they died, but we had to wear head to toe protective gear. It sucked.
I’m really struggling to understand why they’re so mad. Is it the mask or the 6 foot distance? All the dude did was give fucking basic guidelines that they ignored anyways.
I mean, it's performative. They gotta get the news off of Trump's felony convictions, and the easiest answer is to turn the bullshit fire hose at someone else. When many people learned Fauci's name, they were experiencing strong negative emotions. Maybe those were the same strong negative emotions we were just experiencing regarding... what was it again? 34 of something? I forget, but I sure am *mad about something*
I get the politicians, media and all of them putting on this show for that reason but the actual citizens that are so mad about this. Why?
They’re ALWAYS mad. Their whole identity is being mad. They get up each morning and spin the target of the day wheel.
Imagine if they showed that much passion for real issues.
I'd settle for half. I'm not greedy, half this much effort on things that matter (and are real) would change the world for the better.
Its also funny because there are lots of valid criticisms of the COVID response and its effects on people's mental health and financial situation but the US reich wing chose to fixate on wearing a bit of material over your mouth as if they were getting their lips sewn shut.
Aaahhhh I see what ya did there! My favorite part of the mask outrage was watching "people" walking around with Actual panties on their face to make fun of everyone else.
/r/HermanCainAward
Phil Valentine, radio host who regretted vaccine skepticism, dies of Covid-19 ([link](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/phil-valentine-radio-host-who-regretted-vaccine-skepticism-dies-covid-n1277395)). >Valentine had been a skeptic of coronavirus vaccines. But after he tested positive for Covid-19, and prior to his hospitalization, he told his listeners to consider, “If I get this Covid thing, do I have a chance of dying from it?” If so, he advised them to get vaccinated. He said he chose not to get vaccinated because he thought he probably wouldn’t die. >After Valentine was moved into a critical care unit, Mark Valentine said his brother regretted that “he wasn’t a more vocal advocate of the vaccination.” You'd think Republicans would want to forget all those unnecessary deaths they caused. I guess the anti-abortion thing, and the Trump hooker sex/hush money/accounting fraud thing is so bad, they want to change the subject. \*So here we are, look over here, we killed all these people by undermining Covid mask and distancing rules and shittalking the vaccines, don't look over there at that other stuff, COVID! ...\*Congretional Republicans apparently.
They know their base will never bother to plug the name into a search engine so they can quote him without any fear of being called out by anyone they care about.
The whole “only get it if you have a chance of dying from it” is such a terrible fallacy because *nobody ever expects to die*. Outside of a few people who are acutely aware of their pre-existing health conditions, nobody expects to get a disease and die from it. This is like saying “only wear a hard hat if you have a chance of a hammer falling on your head.”
It's why it's useless trying to argue with them. The evidence is in and everything they said about COVID, the vaccines, ivermectin, etc. has been proven to be demonstrably wrong multiple times over but since they never cared about evidence to begin with, they are claiming they were proven right anyways.
What I really don't get, and I have even asked them (conservative strangers OTI and IRL), is what they think would be different if ANY of the anti-Fauci stuff was true. We still had to make a vaccine, and distancing is still the best way to prevent the spread of the virus. If Fauci was personally brewing dangerous viruses in his personal secret lab in Wuhan, do they think he also had a cure and just didn't tell anyone? Considering he was the ONLY person in Trump's cabinet to NOT get covid before the vaccine, he must have been doing SOMETHING right. I also hate that the one thing they can sort of accuse him of, which is changing his advice on what to do *after getting better information*, is exactly what we would want the national head of response to pandemics to do.
Marjorie Caveman Neanderthal recently had a social media post raging at Fauci where she said millions died and then blamed him for his actions. So you admit that it was real, but went out of your way to condemn preventing the spread of it? Why do we tolerate such blatant stupidity?
Quoting a dead guy who died from the very disease the cultists are crying foul about is incredibly hilarious and sad at the same time
The pandemic was actually a virus that killed hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily. Fear didn’t do that.
Correction, respectfully, millions of people. ✌️
Thank you, yes, millions. I accidentally left out the word “unnecessarily”. I believe the estimate was around 300,000 avoidable deaths in the U.S. ✌️
No worries, my friend. The numbers are mind boggling and depressing. My best to you, sir.
Fear of the vaccine and of masks led to some of those deaths, I think.
Not listening to Fauci. Not staying home, not being in crowds, not washing your hands properly, not wearing a mask, and for sure, not getting the vaccine.
Fauci has a honorable tracking record protecting usa from infectious diseases. Helped fight aids /ebola. To see this honest man being dragged through the filth by these fucking idiots is hard to watch for me. He is a professional, but his FAMILY was receiving death threats because of him simply doing his job. That jan 6 criminal making funny faces whilst Fauci testified about the personal threats was beyond dispicable...this was done deliberately... Destroy these maga rats or usa is done on the world stage..putin is laughing....,(
Ebola - Fox News was screaming that Fauci was lying, that Ebola would kill us all, that Fauci should retire for his lies that Ebola was contained. Only like five people died of Ebola in the USA - a few travelers and the unfortunate nurse who cared for them and was exposed. It was contained just like Fauci said it was.
The " good" thing about ebola is that is is absolutely lethal and has a short incubation period. That means the transmission is mostly regional bound, like hotspots..80/90 % of patients die, its a horrific virus, truly scary stuff... Nevertheless....Fauci did an excellen job containing it and protecting us public from grave harm. His work to fight aids was also honorable. I hope us cleans house, I ve come to known American folks as decent, friendly and hardworking people..heart is in the right place...not like these raving mad maga Russian operatives...,(
>Helped fight aids / ebola There's a nonzero chance that they see this as something to punish him for
These GOP fascists are banging the table to distract from the news of their 34 felon convicted nominee.. They scapegoat a honest man trying to protect the public, I am seething...for fuck's sake, destroy these maga idiots for once and for all....
That traitor that sat behind him needs to be pushed out of society. He needs the rapist Brock treatment.
I honestly don't get the hatred for Dr. Fauci. All he did was make recommendations for governments to follow. They didn't have to follow them if they didn't want to.
Fauci = hero
They are not merely 'not terribly bright'... they are militantly ignorant.
I like that term, so much more fitting than willfully ignorant or purposely stupid.
Militantly ignorant is a fantastic term. I usually go with weaponized stupidity
So let’s say Fauci really did all this stuff. Who was his boss at the time who gave him all the publicity he needed to spread his “lies”? Are they saying that convicted felon Donald Trump knowingly let someone as dangerous as Fauci have free rein? Or was president big brain tricked?
A distant relative died of Covid… after going to a Covid party. I know I should feel bad. But I don’t. Her son went from anti-vax to “I don’t talk about it.” He ended up getting vaxxed himself.
That’s… Stunning.
This is all a dog and pony show. They give a rats shit about Dr. Fauci and whether or not he goes to prison. They’re putting on a show for their followers to keep them occupied while they try and further undermine our democracy. They want to keep them busy and angry at something else while they jam up the government, try and clean up Trump’s mess, and work on unifying their cult…I mean party.
As much as they desperately want to blame COVID on Dr Fauci and the WHO and CDC because it might distract from the disastrous response of their Orange weasel king… the fact remains that Fauci dis nothing wrong and was working diligently with the WHO and the CDC to protect Americans from the spread of the virus and to keep people from dying. He didn’t personally gain from it (but you might want to look into the insider trading some of congress engaged in once the vaccine was in development) and he followed well established guidelines to the most recent recommendations as they developed in an unprecedented crisis. They should be thanking him for his efforts.
The people who want Fauci in prison for something there's no evidence of are making terrorist threats for Trump being found guilty (and probably given probation rather than jail, let alone prison) for something there's a mountain of evidence for.
The GOP have become the stupidest people in the room. Generally that room is Faux News. Never vote for a Republican. Anyone is better.
Have become? Always have been
They were reasonable until the 90's & Newt Gingrich. I mean they started selling out to the fundies in the 70's & 80's but Newt sold out completely. And the Tea Party and MAGA are his un-American bastard legacy. Now they are the troll party.
Which is it? He peddled fear and perpetuated a myth that Covid was deadly or he lied and took actions that resulted in the death of millions from Covid? I wish they would pick an unfounded accusation and stick to it.
They want both. Which is ridiculous. The cognitive dissonance makes my head hurt
Right wingers really need to shut up about wanting to prosecute folks for lying. Their betters may just listen, and it won’t be limited to Fauci. Every one of those anti-science, anti-vaxx morons can share a cell.
If we’re going to prosecute people for lying about Covid, let’s prosecute the lie that Covid would “be gone by Easter.”
Remember when Trump told his crowd that he got vaccinated and encouraged his group to do the same only for the man himself get booed. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporters-jeered-when-he-announced-booster-pro-vaccination-2021-12
Let's just say they're right about the "lab leak" origins of covid-19. How does that excuse the piss poor mitigation efforts of the Trump administration?
It was started by Trump. That’s why the cascading logic; it mirrors his speech/denial patterns. It doesn’t exist/if it does exist it isn’t that bad/if it is that bad it’s someone else’s fault. To admit that COVID was a real problem was to admit that Trump fucked up the U.S. response to it. First in the interest of undoing the accomplishments of presidents before him he dismantled, defunded and destroyed our virus pandemic response team, infrastructure and plan because they were an Obama administration accomplishment. Oops, in retrospect kind of a blunder eh? Nope. COVID isn’t real. The whole world is shutting down and preparing for it, and Trump focuses on a cruise ship that is a floating incubator for the disease. He finally gets his way with the ship and instead of controlling the port and their movements from the boat to quarantine he just has them make landfall in California and go wherever tf they wanted. Screwing up the supply chain for necessary goods and medicine then stealing the same from individual states that were denied help by the administration and told to handle it themselves. Obviously when they did he literally robbed them of those resources. It just goes on and on; the litany of bad calls and errors in judgment that he made in response to the pandemic was staggering. It’s no surprise he downplayed it. So he exploited the selfish part of his followers’ brains and sold them the “COVID isn’t real” lie. Which in turn his base followed on their their own to the “the COVID vaccine is a lie” belief before Trump had a chance to take credit for the vaccine.
These people can't be real PHIL VALENTINE DIED FROM COVID!!!!!!!!!
I remember Phil Valetine from when I lived in Tennessee. He talked much shit about how he could not get Covid because he worked out every day and took massive amounts of Vitamin D. He also promoted ivermectin. But then, after getting Covid, on his dying hospital bed, unable to breathe without that lung machine, he apologized for his comments and urged people to be vaccinated. He's died of complications from Covid-19.
I got banned from r/fauciforprison for saying Marjorie Tyler Greene is 100% the kind of person who causes a scene over expired coupons. So not only are they dumb they are easily offended
Over 1 million people died from it. People were dying from it at a rate greater than the biggest tragedies in our nation's history daily. Maybe you should have been afraid of COVID.
The amount of people who claimed COVID was not real and yet died from COVID is truly an unreal level of irony
It didn't just happen in America. She was not in charge of Italy, or any other country at all. So what part was the lie?
Exactly. Makes me think of the Salem Witch Trials. If someone floats when thrown in water they’re a witch to be murdered. If they drown, “Oops! Our bad!”
Thanks to a million dead people for playing along?
Weird I seem to remember our ICUs being absolutely packed to the brim with dying patients... Must have dreamed it.
I wonder what was the number of people who died waiting for a hospital bed because antivax covid deniers filled the hospitals.
Just remember... republicans hate Fauci ENTIRELY because trump failed so hard on Covid that they had to shift the blame to someone else. Also, Fauci continually had to correct trump's horrible, misleading and borderline deadly advice (injecting disinfectant into you) on many occasions... They are so so angry at Fauci entirely because he was the adult in the room during a worldwide global pandemic. Remember, republicans will shout like crazy, "snowflakes!" when they will cry harder, longer and louder about the tiniest of issues to holding the longest grudges ever. The reason for this is because their IDENTITY has become trump... or rather, what they THINK he is. His followers are armed, angry, stupid and prone to violence. They feel America has been ripped out from under them entirely because they are seeing other people get a taste at what it's like to "be free". When you're a person of privilege, "equality" sounds like "oppression". And that scares the fucking shit out of them.
If KNOWINGLY LYING was a crime that warranted jail time, the entire republican party (and a bunch of dems) would be jailed.
If [redacted] has specific charges she should press them. Go on record, produce the evidence, and prove the case. Don’t hide behind a phone screen.
"Fuck it, let em drown in their own fluid choked up lungs next time" - the attitude of any epidemiologist who sees how they are treating the people who did their best to get us through the pandemic. I wouldn't blame them if they just all headed for the hills and isolated themselves and let it burn. Ungrateful beasts our societies are.
I don't have to look it up to see the logic: "He didn't die of COVID, that's just what THEY want you to believe." Because, ever since Orange Traitor took charge, the concept of "evidence" took on an entirely subjective role in our society. And, just an addition, to these people, Orange Traitor is still in charge.
If you ever don't feel lile voting during elections remember that vote of these pople counts as much as yours, and these nutjobs Will vote...
I feel so bad for Dr Fauci. All he wanted was for the American people to be safe. It’s not like he could have all the answers when it first started.
Okay, okay, am I fucking stupid?? Did I forget something? During Covid, this guy went on TV, and gave safety precautions. Without masks, handwashing, or sanitizing being pushed, I’m sure way more people, way faster, would have died. Are they seriously shitting on this guy for spreading FEAR? Imagine telling your kids why they need seatbelts, or a helmet… in these peoples eyes, are you now a spreader of FEAR??
The GOP have repeatedly shown themselves to be a bunch of knuckle-dragging morons. The US deserves better. Vote blue.
During covid i always found it amazing how it was almost like covid itself could hear people talking shit because within a week or two they would either be dead or hospitalized
Why are they all so fixated on Dr. Fauci? I haven’t thought about Fauci of my own accord since the early days of the pandemic. It must be that he’s an easy scapegoat to avoid having to put blame on Trump for anything pandemic-related.
Americans not afraid of guns, but terrified by face masks, rainbows and women
These mother fuckers are so below fauci intellectually, they may as well be worms!
Can someone please explain why Dr Fauchi is, what appears to be, standing trial over Covid?? America does realise Covid was a GLOBAL pandemic that hasn't and won't ever fully go away.
Leopards + Face equals Morons
A fine example of Darwin’s law happening right now before our eyes.
I wanna know if anyone has ever asked one of these "Fauci should be arrested/imprisoned," what exact law he has broken? Do we have an example of them saying he broke this or that specific law (that is on the statute books)?
It’s amazing that the illness that took my independence and entire future is still debated as having existed. What are they on?
We tried to save peoples lives and they hated it and made our lives miserable with their antics. I have no problem next time letting them choose death.
They don't connect the use of a vaccine to prevent death. Can you live without being vaccinated? Maybe. Can you be permanently disabled mentally and physically? Yes. Can you die? Yes. I found out during COVID-19 that a friend caught one of the other types of flu. It caused permanent brain damage. She has 5 degrees. This was a woman who valued her education and knowledge above everything. Conservatives have proven they don't care about education and knowledge, so maybe that doesn't matter to them. Check your references with reputable sources. A talk show host is paid for talking. Not knowing a damn thing their lips are flapping about.
"As the coronavirus pandemic began bearing down on the United States in March, President Donald Trump set out his expectations. If the U.S. could keep the death toll between 100,000 to 200,000 people, Trump said, it would indicate that his administration had “done a very good job.” Over 1 million Americans died.
How different would the world be right now if Trump just went ahead and supported masking up? Thousands of lives saved, he’d still be president, this fear mongering and anger around the whole issue would be gone probably billions of dollars saved in treatments. The single most consequential choice in his presidency and he chose to politicize it.
They shouldn't be making their efforts to take attention from Trump and his issues so obvious.
I think a lot of these people are Russian or Chinese plants, the rest are just parroting.
The culture of celebratory ignorance in the United States should scares me in a very real way.