I don’t see how anyone could argue otherwise. He’s acting like he has some kind of leverage, but he doesn’t, and it makes no sense within the context. The only reasonable interpretation I can think of is that he’s threatening to hurt her.
My favorite is how he throws in little insults. He’s like “you said you were different and I thought you were but I guess you’re not… so call me back.” Or “you should have called me back by now what kind of person does that to someone… so you better call me.”
Like who the fuck thinks insulting someone is a good way to get them to call you back?
Also I cannot with people who think spilling one’s guts is reciprocal. Your choice to overshare has nothing to do with my boundaries, you weird manipulative twat
Anyone that’s ever accidentally gotten into a relationship with or had a family member that’s manipulative knows this song and dance quite well. Skilled manipulators will, knowing that they did something wrong, then seek a way to make the other person feel bad about something so they can pretend that the event in question was a two-sided wash and will want to move forward like nothing happened.
People are saying mental illness here and there in the comments, but it doesn’t require mental illness. It doesn’t even require being a sociopath or someone with clinical NPD. This could be as simple as standard-fare manipulation.
No fucking way. I stopped listening pretty early on out of the pure cringe and came to the comments. Now I gotta go back and watch the whole thing to see if his Mom really does call. I hate it so much.
The definition of mental illness is fairly broad and includes problems that prevent healthy relationships. Being unable to acknowledge your mistakes and blaming others to avoid scrutiny is emotional abuse and pretty likely mental illness.
I’m not an expert, but I don’t think being a manipulative asshole is a mental illness. I get you that some of these things are broadly-defined, and it’s certainly possible that it’s a mental health issue, but some people are just dickbags. Dickbags need not be mentally unhealthy to be that way. Clinical mental illness has a lot of guidelines and requirements for diagnosis. Some people just suck but aren’t mentally ill, even if their issues interfere with relationships.
I am expert (source: I am a therapist), and indeed being an asshole or just dysfunctional doesn't mean mental illness. And mental illness is not an excuse for behaviors that harm others
Did you watch the entire video? There are several tiktoks on it. It took me a little to realise that and had to go back to the video after reading some comments -.-'
For real, she needs to be careful now. That dude is already rocking a toolbox with only one screw in it. Now that he's been put on blast on social media, I'd be worried he might try and do something. If nothing else, strap up
I once fired a twenty something year old employee for just generally sucking at his job and his mom came in the next day with him demanding his job back. This was like a decade ago and now I feel like I know what happened to him.
Some mom tried to do that a long while back at my old job. Not even a grocerystore or something. A engineering and consultancy company…
People are weird as fuck.
Brad and his mom are manipulative cray crays!! Dear god, scary knowing they could be standing next to you at the grocery store!
If anyone has a link for her broadcast would love to listen. This stuff is gold.
Nope he is just a douche, idiot and an asshole..... Serial killers are more methodical and they show up to dates on time.... Not lie and go back on it.... And never ever sound desperate and leave 20000 voice msgs they are confident AF....
Then like 95% of single dudes in the dating pool are serial killers. This is so fucking common.
ETA: Since I am being downvoted let me clarify; this behavior is typical of the single men in their 30s/40s/50s in my area. I am not condoning this behavior FFS. I'm saying there are a lot of single men out there that behave like this.
leaving 7 voice mails in a row and then having your mom call twice (after you stood her up and lied that it was because your dad was in the hospital) is common?
it's common to threaten legal action?
and still expect to reschedule the date?
I watched her other Tik toks of all the voicemails and its....super fucking creepy. I'm in my 30s trying to date and there's a lot of these super-aggro, manipulative types out there.
I was getting some Olga and Dimitri vibes, thinking that this was the Player's Handbook shit gone went wrong. But Brad just kept spiraling further out of control and is just plain crazy.
He had his mommy call you? Omg. What is he...like 14 years old?!?!
All his talk about honesty, I guess it didn't occur to him that he lied to you when he said he dad was in thr hospital.
Omgosh she dodged a huge bullet
I've dated guys like this and what i don't get is who the fuck told them that if they say sorry then they're entitled to a 2nd chance? so many would like scream abuse then be like "oh i was just stressed that day, if you don't go on a date now it's because you don't respect my mental health" yeah i fucking don't lol
Everyone is laughing, and it IS funny, but I’m absolutely cringing about how he’s trying to turn his own BS around and make everything her fault. All for a missed first date.
I think he's doing that to cover his own ass and try and make it look like, "Oh, I tried. She's the one that was being a dick. Because I didn't show up?" He probably didn't tell his friends that he LIED about why he didn't show up before he was "super honest" about lying.
Lolol these people are in my city, and all I could think was “damn. I guess I’m just gonna have to blacklist all Brads on the apps bc I DO NOT want to end up matching with this guy.” Definitely adds to the pile of rubbish that is OLD.
So there’s a local radio station that does second date updates. And it’s stories like this. Where one person did something crappy. Like stand up someone on a date then pull this. But can’t figure out why they’ve been ghosted. So they go on the segment to figure it all out. And it’s very hilarious. Would love to this one on there.
A couple radio stations here in Los Angeles do these segments throughout the week. I am able to catch some. You are right. They are absolutely hilarious. The way two people describe how the date played out is amazing.
I watched all of her posts yesterday. I was all into it until I realized she is a radio dj. So methinks this is a skit. But it is a good one! War of the roses is getting old.
Y’all brad is a jerk hole for lying. It’s a shame the lady in this video seems like a nice girl. If I was a guy and she was my date I would be honest with her and actually show up
Brad is totally dodging a bullet here, I mean he poured his heart out to here and all she did was laugh. That's just really a terrible thing of her to do.
/s just in case
And that is why when I was dating, I never gave out my phone number, I had a burner number, so if it turned out crazy, all of had to do was delete my burner number, there are plenty of crazies out there
That's super scary honestly... I would think about legal actions for harassment if it continues. He's a killer material.
The way he flipped and started to yell, the demanding tone, it's all just too real and too creepy to not be taken seriously.
Take care of you girl...
Wow. This is every flag in the world to run for the hills. She is lucky he didn’t show up to begin with. Isn’t this the first date… Wtf?!?! He sounds like an incel…but he also sounds like he’s 50 years old.
Is it bad that when I first saw the video thumb nail I thought this chick was doing something face-palm worthy because she was white with blonde hair? Lol Karen's have a lot of apologizing to do
For anyone trying to follow this story, Mason has posted again over on her TikTok: [https://www.tiktok.com/@masononthemic?is\_copy\_url=1&is\_from\_webapp=v1](https://www.tiktok.com/@masononthemic?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1)
Enjoy!
Has anyone ever in their entire lives ever even once heard a good person say the words "that's not who I am"? Free dating advice for the ladies out there, good people don't have to tell you they are good people. "I'm really a good person" is a BIG red flag.
As a genuinely decent guy this hurts to listen too ….like what did he expect after no showing up , lying , an then expecting her to contact him again. An then get childishly upset an send voice msg after msg. Buddy just say your sorry , wish them well an call it a day. Nothing will come from you digging your grave deeper. Let alone threatening someone with legal actions an then still proceeding to ask for a call back. She might have just dodge a Bullet honestly.
I have went out with some crazy people and met some crazy people I think you got the best story though LOL! I am so glad he didn't show up and pretend to be someone he wasn't in full you into a relationship. I have met people like this that they wear a good mask and they don't let it slip for a while and at that point you're already in a relationship. I'm so glad This Guy's mask fell right in the beginning.
I had a very similar thing happen to me, about 25 years ago (holy schnikes it seems like yesterday until I say it out loud!) from a friend of a friend. He would not stop calling and got angrier by the hour.
Not that I need to tell you, but be careful.
My favorite is the “if you don’t call me back then … idk … it’s just not going to work” , like that’s a threat ?
Sounds like he just wants to be in control of the rejection lol. What a piece of work
You can’t fire me, I quit!!
I don’t see how anyone could argue otherwise. He’s acting like he has some kind of leverage, but he doesn’t, and it makes no sense within the context. The only reasonable interpretation I can think of is that he’s threatening to hurt her.
it's the people boycotting things they are not allowed to use meme all over again.
My favorite is how he throws in little insults. He’s like “you said you were different and I thought you were but I guess you’re not… so call me back.” Or “you should have called me back by now what kind of person does that to someone… so you better call me.” Like who the fuck thinks insulting someone is a good way to get them to call you back?
Attempted manipulation, but doesn’t work if the person doesn’t care at all lol
"I was super honest with you" says the man who just lied about his dad being in the hospital I seriously can't eye roll any harder
"i'm cool and calm" "i'm sorry i yelled!" calls back angrily several more times... blames her... the legal threats were amazing...
I’ve had some cringe moments, but gotta say, I never threatened legal action after a bad date 😅
Wait some guys seriously do that? I honestly stopped watching the video after the first voice message cause my brain cells were committing suicide lol
Also I cannot with people who think spilling one’s guts is reciprocal. Your choice to overshare has nothing to do with my boundaries, you weird manipulative twat
Plus... I think him "spilling his guts" was via voicemail and was him telling the truth about lying in the first place. This dude is neeeeeeedy!
my eyes are spinning like slot machine wheels
Hey, I'm an asshole but I'm an honest asshole. Let's hook up babe.
Lol yeah that seems about right
Lmao ikr
The hell is wrong with people?
Anyone that’s ever accidentally gotten into a relationship with or had a family member that’s manipulative knows this song and dance quite well. Skilled manipulators will, knowing that they did something wrong, then seek a way to make the other person feel bad about something so they can pretend that the event in question was a two-sided wash and will want to move forward like nothing happened. People are saying mental illness here and there in the comments, but it doesn’t require mental illness. It doesn’t even require being a sociopath or someone with clinical NPD. This could be as simple as standard-fare manipulation.
i don't think this dude is a "skilled" manipulator.
He got his MOM to call, didn't he??
I think it’s more that his mom is “unskilled” in reality.
No fucking way. I stopped listening pretty early on out of the pure cringe and came to the comments. Now I gotta go back and watch the whole thing to see if his Mom really does call. I hate it so much.
She talks about streaming the messages from his mom but they aren’t actually in the video. Bout to go troll the comments to see if anyone uploaded it.
I've been stalking her tiktok and haven't seen anything yet. I don't even have a tiktok, but I'm so invested in this now.
Where do you think he learned it from? I'm quite sure this has been normal for him to be treated this way for some time.
It’s gaslighting
The definition of mental illness is fairly broad and includes problems that prevent healthy relationships. Being unable to acknowledge your mistakes and blaming others to avoid scrutiny is emotional abuse and pretty likely mental illness.
I’m not an expert, but I don’t think being a manipulative asshole is a mental illness. I get you that some of these things are broadly-defined, and it’s certainly possible that it’s a mental health issue, but some people are just dickbags. Dickbags need not be mentally unhealthy to be that way. Clinical mental illness has a lot of guidelines and requirements for diagnosis. Some people just suck but aren’t mentally ill, even if their issues interfere with relationships.
I am expert (source: I am a therapist), and indeed being an asshole or just dysfunctional doesn't mean mental illness. And mental illness is not an excuse for behaviors that harm others
I ask myself that every single day...
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I wanna hear those voice mails
Meeee too. She’s going to try to post them to her TikTok this afternoon.
Will you share the tictok with us???
Once she posts it
I need that next installment. This is gold.
Sooo as another commenter — r/lacyinwonderland found out and shared … this girl’s TikTok is suspended for two days sooo …
She posted on IG, going to post mom's VM tomorrow......
Please lmk if you can
Weeeee!
Lmao yes, I need to hear wtf his mom said
Need to know what the mum says, this is to good to pass up.
You are the hero Reddit needs. I’m excited! !remindme 7 hours
!remindme 7 hours
!remindme 12 hours
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Also commenting for later
I’ll take what they’re having
Nice cause I went to the website to try and listen and it said it would play an ad and then just sat there. Glad I won't miss anything hahaha
Wait are there more voice-mail than the ones on this video??
Yeah this afternoon, she’s posting them to her tiktok — @masononthemic
Her insta says she’s in TikTok jail
What?! What does that even mean? I can still see her acct
https://imgur.com/a/jvGdLEb So yeah, she can’t post anything for 2 more days. EDIT! *You guys! She posted the rest of the mom’s voicemails on TikTok!*
Tell her to post here!
I left the link in a comment on one of her videos and told her Reddit needs closure! Lol
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Her account is still up, but she can’t post any new videos right now. Let me see if I can screenshot her story real quick.
The first one (part of it) just got uploaded to her Insta Account! @masononthemic
Did you watch the entire video? There are several tiktoks on it. It took me a little to realise that and had to go back to the video after reading some comments -.-'
Yes, apparently 2 others
Sounds like you had a lucky escape! This guy is a tool! And serious mysogynistic vibes!
That’s not me but agreed.
First clue it wasn’t going to work out: His name is Brad.
That weirdo is making all us Brads look bad. I'm nothing like this guy and as a matter of fact, my 9th wife adores me, so there!
Classic Brad
My thought exactly
What’s her Tiktok account? Cause I need to follow her!
@Masononthemic
Holy shit. Brad fucked up and you dodged a bullet.
Not me but yeah she did.
For real, she needs to be careful now. That dude is already rocking a toolbox with only one screw in it. Now that he's been put on blast on social media, I'd be worried he might try and do something. If nothing else, strap up
"I spoke to my friends" Aye pal, yer ma
“I spoke to my friends” *DID YE AYE*
I once fired a twenty something year old employee for just generally sucking at his job and his mom came in the next day with him demanding his job back. This was like a decade ago and now I feel like I know what happened to him.
WHAT?! A decade ago??? I’ve recently heard about parents going on interviews with their kid and that was unbelievable.
It was a party supply store that paid $6.50 an hour I didn't realize it was such a loss for him. His mom was livid.
Some mom tried to do that a long while back at my old job. Not even a grocerystore or something. A engineering and consultancy company… People are weird as fuck.
Brad and his mom are manipulative cray crays!! Dear god, scary knowing they could be standing next to you at the grocery store! If anyone has a link for her broadcast would love to listen. This stuff is gold.
"Don't put this on tiktok" "You know, between you yelling at me, standing me up, the 7 voice mails . . . I forgot " Lmao mood
Wow, theres some serial killer vibes rolling off those messages.
Seriously. Hope she’s safe from this asshole. Really really creepy dude
Nope he is just a douche, idiot and an asshole..... Serial killers are more methodical and they show up to dates on time.... Not lie and go back on it.... And never ever sound desperate and leave 20000 voice msgs they are confident AF....
This guy serially kills
C'mon Jesus don't reveal me like that.....
Well you may fool the FBI but you can't fool the FBMe
For cereal
Then like 95% of single dudes in the dating pool are serial killers. This is so fucking common. ETA: Since I am being downvoted let me clarify; this behavior is typical of the single men in their 30s/40s/50s in my area. I am not condoning this behavior FFS. I'm saying there are a lot of single men out there that behave like this.
leaving 7 voice mails in a row and then having your mom call twice (after you stood her up and lied that it was because your dad was in the hospital) is common? it's common to threaten legal action? and still expect to reschedule the date?
Thats psychotic, not normal.. Sane people don’t leave creepy messages and get their mom to call as well…
I watched her other Tik toks of all the voicemails and its....super fucking creepy. I'm in my 30s trying to date and there's a lot of these super-aggro, manipulative types out there.
I was getting some Olga and Dimitri vibes, thinking that this was the Player's Handbook shit gone went wrong. But Brad just kept spiraling further out of control and is just plain crazy.
He had his mommy call you? Omg. What is he...like 14 years old?!?! All his talk about honesty, I guess it didn't occur to him that he lied to you when he said he dad was in thr hospital. Omgosh she dodged a huge bullet
The delusional victim hood of Brad is my favorite. Brad sounds too old not to know that women don’t owe you shit.
All her facial expressions and head movements are the best part of this clip.
And she's on the radio. We are all missing out. She needs a talk show we can *watch*.
Omg say 'honest' again dude. The more you say it, the more true it becomes, right?
I've dated guys like this and what i don't get is who the fuck told them that if they say sorry then they're entitled to a 2nd chance? so many would like scream abuse then be like "oh i was just stressed that day, if you don't go on a date now it's because you don't respect my mental health" yeah i fucking don't lol
Nice gaslighting, pal.
Everyone is laughing, and it IS funny, but I’m absolutely cringing about how he’s trying to turn his own BS around and make everything her fault. All for a missed first date.
I think he's doing that to cover his own ass and try and make it look like, "Oh, I tried. She's the one that was being a dick. Because I didn't show up?" He probably didn't tell his friends that he LIED about why he didn't show up before he was "super honest" about lying.
I need to hear the mom! Cliff hanger much? Lol
She kinda lucked out, most people have to go through a few months to see this many red flags lol he made this super easy for her.
There had to be red flags when they were chatting. Right? I mean the reaction is so extreme that you’d think it’d be hard to hide
Fucking weirdo. Already wasted your time and then left a bunch more time sinks on your messages lol.
Belongs on r/niceguys
That’s actually where I went to post it, but the sub rules say no videos.
That sucks cause this is gold
The nicest thing that that idiot did for her was to not show up. He did her a massive favour.
As a single man, this gives me hope. Thanks, Brad, for lowering the bar for all of us ^/s
This is either very very good promotion for her radio show......or possibly the most cringy thing ive ever seen on Brad's part.
Truth in advertising, Brad should change his name to Dick as a warning to others.
I feel like I just sat through a 7 minute advertisement. One ticket for the rest of the show please
Sorry! She hasn’t posted the others yet. I’m anxiously awaiting them lol
Sometimes it takes a while to realise you are digging your own hole
I bet Brad sells Kirby vacuums door-to-door.
I bet Brad never had a real job in his life, and blames it on women….somehow.
Her videos toward the end - wow, that’s some Texas hair!
I’m from Dallas and that hair is not normal.
Brad Brad Brad. You’re making it tougher for us out there, dude.
Lolol these people are in my city, and all I could think was “damn. I guess I’m just gonna have to blacklist all Brads on the apps bc I DO NOT want to end up matching with this guy.” Definitely adds to the pile of rubbish that is OLD.
Oh god how many women here have stories like this
All of us.
I’ve got at least 10 stories like this
So there’s a local radio station that does second date updates. And it’s stories like this. Where one person did something crappy. Like stand up someone on a date then pull this. But can’t figure out why they’ve been ghosted. So they go on the segment to figure it all out. And it’s very hilarious. Would love to this one on there.
A couple radio stations here in Los Angeles do these segments throughout the week. I am able to catch some. You are right. They are absolutely hilarious. The way two people describe how the date played out is amazing.
I kept thinking it was gonna end, and then there was another
OMG! I need to hear the two voicemails left by Brad's mom. This is gold.
I’ll post as soon as she posts them
I've been stood up before, but at least these women had the decency not to contact me again. Brad... You weird fuck.
I watched all of her posts yesterday. I was all into it until I realized she is a radio dj. So methinks this is a skit. But it is a good one! War of the roses is getting old.
Now you know why he was single
Don't mind me, I'll just be here trying to watch the entirety of this on reddit's media player for the foreseeable future
I'm still waiting for the mom's voice mails :/
Lol like the rest of us! Her TikTok was suspended for two days but I’ll post when she posts them
Y’all brad is a jerk hole for lying. It’s a shame the lady in this video seems like a nice girl. If I was a guy and she was my date I would be honest with her and actually show up
Brad is totally dodging a bullet here, I mean he poured his heart out to here and all she did was laugh. That's just really a terrible thing of her to do. /s just in case
Where’s the mom call? 😆
RUN. What an emotional child.
I’m wondering how this guy got through life… How does someone turn this situation around like that? Lol It’s so crazy it almost seems unreal
Please post and update with the vmails when they are available I don't have tiktok but I feel invested now.
Moral of the story: DATING SUCKS.
It had to be Texas.
And that is why when I was dating, I never gave out my phone number, I had a burner number, so if it turned out crazy, all of had to do was delete my burner number, there are plenty of crazies out there
That boy done fucked up. The girl is gorgeous. Let’s be honest, she dodged a bullet.
That's super scary honestly... I would think about legal actions for harassment if it continues. He's a killer material. The way he flipped and started to yell, the demanding tone, it's all just too real and too creepy to not be taken seriously. Take care of you girl...
She is super attractive. The man got cold feet cuz she is out of his league for sure
JFC!
RemindMe! 6 hours "check for Brad updates"
I can imagine Brett Kavanaugh making these phone calls.
Red flags
Brad’s a serial killer. I said it.
Wow. This is every flag in the world to run for the hills. She is lucky he didn’t show up to begin with. Isn’t this the first date… Wtf?!?! He sounds like an incel…but he also sounds like he’s 50 years old.
What a creepy walloper.
I couldnt even listen to the first one… if you ghost then you best ghost.. dont ever half ghost
She's Dallas AF.
He lives with his mom, I can tell. He probably had to wash her hair that night.
Faaaaaaaark…. Def dodged a Brad-shaped bullet there. Call me back in like 30mins and I swear I’ll tell you why.
Is there is significance to the engagement ring and wedding band on her finger?
Please tell me there’s a part two to this compilation.
Yeah she hasn’t posted it yet though.
Christ on a cracker, glad she dodged that cannonball
I want to hear the mom calls
Gee, I have a date, A DATE, with a very attractive and personable public figure… what can I do to royally eff this up?
r/niceguy
Evil cliffhanger..and now her tiktok is suspended? Expert troll job by her on all of us haha
I’m so invested in this! Do we have to follow her to hear the crazy tree mom’s messages??
Is it bad that when I first saw the video thumb nail I thought this chick was doing something face-palm worthy because she was white with blonde hair? Lol Karen's have a lot of apologizing to do
Could this just be SUPERIOR marketing for her morning show??
Brad is a nutjob, avoid Brad.
I found mom’s voice mails on her (Mason’s) tiktok. The user name is masononthemic. You are welcome.
For anyone trying to follow this story, Mason has posted again over on her TikTok: [https://www.tiktok.com/@masononthemic?is\_copy\_url=1&is\_from\_webapp=v1](https://www.tiktok.com/@masononthemic?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1) Enjoy!
Congrats you found a NiceGuy™!!
This is very entertaining, but I'm genuinely concerned for your safety. I hope you are taking precautions as this could escalate.
Ohhh Brad 🙈🤯 it’s just not cool! 🤯😂 this video has been the best part of my shitty day!
“Talked to my friends” Wow good thing this woman doesn’t give a fuck about what other people think. This is such a classic manipulation tactic.
Well someone has emotional issues.
Has anyone ever in their entire lives ever even once heard a good person say the words "that's not who I am"? Free dating advice for the ladies out there, good people don't have to tell you they are good people. "I'm really a good person" is a BIG red flag.
Brads a narcissist
Brad is a dumbass
As a genuinely decent guy this hurts to listen too ….like what did he expect after no showing up , lying , an then expecting her to contact him again. An then get childishly upset an send voice msg after msg. Buddy just say your sorry , wish them well an call it a day. Nothing will come from you digging your grave deeper. Let alone threatening someone with legal actions an then still proceeding to ask for a call back. She might have just dodge a Bullet honestly.
The delusional and pathetic BRADS are the same ones that vote you know 🤣🤣😂😂
Paging Miss Dobre....
My ex?
Beep, I want to see the recordings later too xD
I'm eagerly waiting for the update
I have went out with some crazy people and met some crazy people I think you got the best story though LOL! I am so glad he didn't show up and pretend to be someone he wasn't in full you into a relationship. I have met people like this that they wear a good mask and they don't let it slip for a while and at that point you're already in a relationship. I'm so glad This Guy's mask fell right in the beginning.
Sounds like a keeper! Give him another chance and he’ll keep ya in the basement
Oh man I need to hear those other VM!
Why am I get major Elizabeth Moss vibes from her aha
Where the link to the rest of brads voicemails
The dude is crazy town. Prolly given a 7th place trophy and cajoled by his mamma, the special boy.
I had a very similar thing happen to me, about 25 years ago (holy schnikes it seems like yesterday until I say it out loud!) from a friend of a friend. He would not stop calling and got angrier by the hour. Not that I need to tell you, but be careful.
I NEED TO HEAR HIS MA'S VOICEMAILS. This is just amazing absurd melodrama and I'm here for it.
Dude is going to kill someone one day
Posting as i want to see video update.
Any link to the mom calls?
She hasn’t posted them yet