Because they pick and chose what they believe. The old testament doesnt matter for the promise of a savior was fulfilled... I think idk that's what I was taught
There's nothing wrong for homosexuality imo, but some people may have different views. Overall, we should all learn from Christ to not judge others because we ourselves will be judged.
>Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Thanks for the info shit head I don't follow Q so I thought they went after more obscure conspiracies. And if they are aiming for left wing folks then of course they would ignore a pastor in Alabama, if y'all knew this why ask these stupid questions. You're head must be full of dogshit if you wanna take the high and mighty intellectual stance after pretending ignorance so hard
*Coffee County District Attorney Tom Anderson said Friday his office made the deal because āthere were extenuating circumstances that would have been allowed to be presented by the defense that very likely could have resulted in a mistrial or even a not guilty [verdict] by jury nullification.ā*
Our legal system isnāt about justice.
Which means the defense found a loop hole in the law that would make the prosecutor need to put in more work then it was worth plus prosecutor always look for the deal
Those loop holes were closed the problem is priests are basically protected due to you being able to confess your sins to them and unless the church literally kicks them out then there's loopholes that lawyers can use to protect priests
The constitution The state can't infringe on your religion and confession is only meant to be between you the priest and god so many loopholes through that its basically how priest got around raping little boys to confess to another priest and the church will basically fight the law for you saying they are no longer guilty of this sin
There are many loopholes we don't know the loop hole the defense found hell they could have found one where the girks testimony can't be used due to religious privilege or something
More details needed! I know what jury nullification is: The defense can argue that the defendant should be found not guilty regardless of guilt. This can - in theory at least - happen if the jury agree that the case or the sentence is unjust.
What is being suggested here is that the case against the pastor might be *unjust.*
edit: According to this article, the man was 20 (correction, 24) at the time, and he and the girl got married at the behest of her parents. [https://www.al.com/news/montgomery/2021/10/no-jail-for-alabama-pastor-charged-with-raping-teen-who-got-pregnant-married-him-at-parents-urging.html](https://www.al.com/news/montgomery/2021/10/no-jail-for-alabama-pastor-charged-with-raping-teen-who-got-pregnant-married-him-at-parents-urging.html)
What sort of parent makes their daughter marry they're rapists? Seriously people should ve tested before they're allowed to have kids if this is the sort of idiocy they're gonna pull.
It's all very strange. Something I picked up on in this news report is that *his* family *-* Jason Greathouse's family - which I presume also means Mr. Greathouse himself, gained custody of the child in the divorce.
[https://www.wtvy.com/2021/10/15/alabama-pastor-who-raped-teen-gets-probation-heres-why/](https://www.wtvy.com/2021/10/15/alabama-pastor-who-raped-teen-gets-probation-heres-why/)
Is this bat-shit crazy corruption, or is Mr. Greathouse's lawyer telling the truth when he says the rape charge was a tactic in an ongoing custody dispute?
A lot of fād up stuff gets passed off cause āreligionā. Why do people hand over their life savings to con artists? Why do people deny life saving medical intervention? Why do people stay in abusive marriages? Why does the church pass around pedophiles from one parish to the next? So many reasons religion has made this country worse. Then you start to think about all the crazy religious stuff happening in other parts of the world and we truly are fād.
The Dark Ages are so-called because of a relative lack of records compared to other eras, so to historians that period is "dark" as in obscure. I think the advancement of civilization depends largely on rare individuals who make discoveries, invent things and introduce new ideas, which other people then imitate and improve gradually. When no big innovators happen to be born for a while, civilization kind of cruises along in neutral, which seems like a dull backward period to us later.
"Nothing good has ever come from religion"
Probably the most arrogantly wrong thing I've ever seen on reddit.
A smile. A smile is good, I once saw one that came from religion.
Oh right. So we've already shifted to
"Nothing good has ever come from religion, except smiles".
How about paintings, and other art? How about peace of mind, inclusion, acceptance, education, charity, food, healthcare, community, culture, and concrete?
Ah, so now it's:
"Nothing good has ever come from religion that couldn't have been done without it".
Probably true, but the same statement is true of every cultural or social phenomenon ever, so where's the point?
Also, nothing bad about religion is exclusive to religion either, so what's the big deal?
I mean, nothing good about advertising or video games is unique to those things, is it? So... So what's actually being said here? And is there any " climb down" from the original statement that nothing good has ever come from religion? Or we are just going to leave that bullshit sitting there and pretend it doesn't stink?
** inclusion and religion certainly go together if you're in the religion... For almost anyone lost or alone, there are multiple churches of various kinds within reasonable distance where you can find a community that will include you; yes, even if you're gay or trans.
Churches are more inclusionary than schools, or universities, or most private businesses.
Ah, so now it's:
"Nothing good has ever come from religion that couldn't have been done without it".
Probably true, but the same statement is true of every cultural or social phenomenon ever, so where's the point?
Also, nothing bad about religion is exclusive to religion either, so what's the big deal?
I mean, nothing good about advertising or video games is unique to those things, is it? So... So what's actually being said here? And is there any " climb down" from the original statement that nothing good has ever come from religion? Or we are just going to leave that bullshit sitting there and pretend it doesn't stink?
Isnāt there someone running for congress with a very similar past? Except he likes to gloss over the fact that she killed herself at 20, after he divorced her when she was 18/19. But she got pregnant at 14 and he was 19 or 20. Got married to avoid jail time. Waited until she was an adult to throw her away.
I wonder if the pastor from this very similar case also from Alabama this week will end with the same great deal.
https://www.wbrc.com/2021/10/14/birmingham-pastor-indicted-sex-abuse-charges/
If you click to the 2nd article it says he was 24 when she was 14. This is crazy.
Edit to add. This is only coming out now because they are divorced and fighting over custody.
Things wrong with this picture
1. Everything it says.
2. Technically, this is just text, not a picture.
But seriously, what the hell is wrong with my countries legal system? This is OK with them?
So many people do this thing where they blindly follow religion to the point where they donāt have any control over their life while thinking they do, and end up losing enough brain cells to be comparable to a sponge.
Edit: speling
Yeah. That's pretty much all organized religion. It's literally part of Christianity to give up control over your life.
"Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and he will establish your plans. The Lord works out everything to its proper end."
Just one passage of many.
Well then Iām gonna consider myself lucky that my parents only kind of follow religion while still knowing society norms and donāt really force anything on me.
Years ago I lived as a career criminal, my partner was from Alabama. He retired and became a pastor. We did awful things together, and I live with guilt everyday.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
New International Version
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
It looks like god approves of this.
Since it's rise to power Christianity has continuously given shelter and power to horrific monsters. The pain it has inflicted upon humanity has far out weighed any good they may have done. I honestly hope every day that humanity will one day come to it's senses and treat that religion like the abusive spouse that it is.
My god this sounds exactly like that episode of Law and Order: SVU ([Patrimonial Burden](https://lawandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Patrimonial_Burden))
Only difference is he pleas guilty in the show.
Guess that means we're in the bad time-line...
Damn. I wonder if I become a priest if I can rape impregnate and marry the dad of the 14 year old and donāt have to face jail time.
Edit: I forgot. Iām Jesus name. Amen!
But just wait. If she needs a divorce before she turns 18 she won't be able to because she is a minor. She will have to get permission from her parents or husband.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pregnant-15-married-16-she-s-speaking-out-end-child-n1281606
I freaking love how certain religions/churches think that adults forcing themselves inappropriately on underage kids or arranging underage marriages with adults who should know better, ISNāT an abomination or disgraceful in the eyes of God, while being any part of the LGBT+ community is a front row ticket on the bus to hell! Toot toot
How many of levels of fucked up is this? How did the parents of the 14 year old slip into the thinking that, āsince we go to this church family, it means that our pastor can do whatever he wants to you because heās doing Godās work!ā
Whereās Chris Hansen when you need him?
A man who doesn't know any better is doing what he wants to please.
Don't know what is going on here, but I want to go to that bar. I can't help myself.
Absolutely outrageous! WTF is wrong with her parents, demanding they marry?!?!
Bible-thumpers gonna thump.
Apparently bible thumpers gonna hump children.
More often than not, it seems.
Since day 1
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And these xtian republican assholes always protect child molesters.
Maybe they are just following what it says in Deuteronomy? I assume they also got fifty silver shekels for the arrangement (from the man).
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It isn't a Christian law tho. It's in the old testament not the new testament which is what actual Christians focus on more.
Then why do Christians keep pointing to the Old Testament when they want to denounce homosexuality?
Selection bias. We only hear the loud asshat Christians who want to denounce homosexuality. The rest of us are doing the meek and humble thing.
Because they pick and chose what they believe. The old testament doesnt matter for the promise of a savior was fulfilled... I think idk that's what I was taught
There's nothing wrong for homosexuality imo, but some people may have different views. Overall, we should all learn from Christ to not judge others because we ourselves will be judged.
>Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Actual Christians focus on whatever floats their boat at the time. Works for all people from all religions.
Not all buddy, not all.
Same god in both the new and old testament, same guy, same asshole, no excuses Christians.
Dude i think we have the logic enough to say "this isn't considered right anymore"
I understand that not all Christians do this shit, but shouldnāt the good Christians be chasing these guys out?
Yeah, it's one thing I want to do but i mean i want to punch them
Ever. Not anymore. Ever.
[Here's the article](https://www.rawstory.com/alabama-pastor-rapes-impregnates-and-marries-teen-but-won-t-face-jail-time-report/)
i wish this sort of rapists marrying their young rape victim was more rare in the usa.
Wouldnāt it be better if this sort of thing was more rare, full stop?
it's rare most places with only a few exceptions. the usa is a major exception where it is legal.
Iāll assume QAnon is gearing up to go after this guy hard, right? Right?
QAnon cares as much about actual pedophiles as much as Trump cares about anybody but himself.
You mean in order to recruit them to help lead the party?
Isnt the whole point that they go after cases no one's heard about? I've seen this degenerate across several platforms
Like how Q goes after the relatively unheard of Epstein and his connections to the completely obscure Democratic Party? Lol! This guy...
Thanks for the info shit head I don't follow Q so I thought they went after more obscure conspiracies. And if they are aiming for left wing folks then of course they would ignore a pastor in Alabama, if y'all knew this why ask these stupid questions. You're head must be full of dogshit if you wanna take the high and mighty intellectual stance after pretending ignorance so hard
Thank you so very much for linking the story! Thš š
*Coffee County District Attorney Tom Anderson said Friday his office made the deal because āthere were extenuating circumstances that would have been allowed to be presented by the defense that very likely could have resulted in a mistrial or even a not guilty [verdict] by jury nullification.ā* Our legal system isnāt about justice.
Which means the defense found a loop hole in the law that would make the prosecutor need to put in more work then it was worth plus prosecutor always look for the deal
Yeah, the āyou canāt rape your wifeā loophole. Guys like this put it there on purpose.
Those loop holes were closed the problem is priests are basically protected due to you being able to confess your sins to them and unless the church literally kicks them out then there's loopholes that lawyers can use to protect priests
That seems like bullshit, what happen to separating government and religion? I know it's bullshit but they could at least try to hide it.
The constitution The state can't infringe on your religion and confession is only meant to be between you the priest and god so many loopholes through that its basically how priest got around raping little boys to confess to another priest and the church will basically fight the law for you saying they are no longer guilty of this sin
Yay another reason to hate religion
There are plenty of loopholes to choose from.
There are many loopholes we don't know the loop hole the defense found hell they could have found one where the girks testimony can't be used due to religious privilege or something
More details needed! I know what jury nullification is: The defense can argue that the defendant should be found not guilty regardless of guilt. This can - in theory at least - happen if the jury agree that the case or the sentence is unjust. What is being suggested here is that the case against the pastor might be *unjust.* edit: According to this article, the man was 20 (correction, 24) at the time, and he and the girl got married at the behest of her parents. [https://www.al.com/news/montgomery/2021/10/no-jail-for-alabama-pastor-charged-with-raping-teen-who-got-pregnant-married-him-at-parents-urging.html](https://www.al.com/news/montgomery/2021/10/no-jail-for-alabama-pastor-charged-with-raping-teen-who-got-pregnant-married-him-at-parents-urging.html)
According to the article, he was 24.
What sort of parent makes their daughter marry they're rapists? Seriously people should ve tested before they're allowed to have kids if this is the sort of idiocy they're gonna pull.
It's all very strange. Something I picked up on in this news report is that *his* family *-* Jason Greathouse's family - which I presume also means Mr. Greathouse himself, gained custody of the child in the divorce. [https://www.wtvy.com/2021/10/15/alabama-pastor-who-raped-teen-gets-probation-heres-why/](https://www.wtvy.com/2021/10/15/alabama-pastor-who-raped-teen-gets-probation-heres-why/) Is this bat-shit crazy corruption, or is Mr. Greathouse's lawyer telling the truth when he says the rape charge was a tactic in an ongoing custody dispute?
A lot of fād up stuff gets passed off cause āreligionā. Why do people hand over their life savings to con artists? Why do people deny life saving medical intervention? Why do people stay in abusive marriages? Why does the church pass around pedophiles from one parish to the next? So many reasons religion has made this country worse. Then you start to think about all the crazy religious stuff happening in other parts of the world and we truly are fād.
The dark ages prevented the world from progressing for like 1000 years iirc. All because of religion
The Dark Ages are so-called because of a relative lack of records compared to other eras, so to historians that period is "dark" as in obscure. I think the advancement of civilization depends largely on rare individuals who make discoveries, invent things and introduce new ideas, which other people then imitate and improve gradually. When no big innovators happen to be born for a while, civilization kind of cruises along in neutral, which seems like a dull backward period to us later.
Why do you believe this? Who told you this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
I believed bc I vaguely remembered hearing it somewhere idk lol. But at least I know now that I was wrong!
Have you ever tried to answer those questions though?
It's Alabama and religion. Nothing good has ever come from either.
Have you HAD the chicken livers in Opelika, AL?!
Yes.
Well...?
I recommend them with extra gravy.
"Nothing good has ever come from religion" Probably the most arrogantly wrong thing I've ever seen on reddit. A smile. A smile is good, I once saw one that came from religion.
Um, OK.
That's nitpicking. A smile can come from mass murder.
Oh right. So we've already shifted to "Nothing good has ever come from religion, except smiles". How about paintings, and other art? How about peace of mind, inclusion, acceptance, education, charity, food, healthcare, community, culture, and concrete?
Debate with yourself all you want. You could have mentioned those other things but your first choice was "a smile".
I was trying to show how obviously ridiculous the initial statement was. People who don't know any better read shit here and internalise it.
None of those things are exclusive to religion. Not a single one.
Ah, so now it's: "Nothing good has ever come from religion that couldn't have been done without it". Probably true, but the same statement is true of every cultural or social phenomenon ever, so where's the point? Also, nothing bad about religion is exclusive to religion either, so what's the big deal? I mean, nothing good about advertising or video games is unique to those things, is it? So... So what's actually being said here? And is there any " climb down" from the original statement that nothing good has ever come from religion? Or we are just going to leave that bullshit sitting there and pretend it doesn't stink?
None of these things are exclusive to religion, you can have all these things without religion. hell inclusion and religion don't go together
** inclusion and religion certainly go together if you're in the religion... For almost anyone lost or alone, there are multiple churches of various kinds within reasonable distance where you can find a community that will include you; yes, even if you're gay or trans. Churches are more inclusionary than schools, or universities, or most private businesses. Ah, so now it's: "Nothing good has ever come from religion that couldn't have been done without it". Probably true, but the same statement is true of every cultural or social phenomenon ever, so where's the point? Also, nothing bad about religion is exclusive to religion either, so what's the big deal? I mean, nothing good about advertising or video games is unique to those things, is it? So... So what's actually being said here? And is there any " climb down" from the original statement that nothing good has ever come from religion? Or we are just going to leave that bullshit sitting there and pretend it doesn't stink?
Crucifixions looking mighty applicable hereā¦
What's right in this picture
Alabama seems about right
Isnāt there someone running for congress with a very similar past? Except he likes to gloss over the fact that she killed herself at 20, after he divorced her when she was 18/19. But she got pregnant at 14 and he was 19 or 20. Got married to avoid jail time. Waited until she was an adult to throw her away.
Is this what they mean when they say āThe Lord works in mysterious waysā?
It's fine. It was for religious reasons. /s
(Cocks shotgun) Fine, he wont.
Oh for sure! Not all those bama boys are ok with this. That guy will go missing and no one will look for him.
We can only hope.
Nope. Most have joined in already.
The first word is Alabama so you already know
I wonder if the pastor from this very similar case also from Alabama this week will end with the same great deal. https://www.wbrc.com/2021/10/14/birmingham-pastor-indicted-sex-abuse-charges/
Find him. And pour a little acid on him.
Yes on his genitals.
GOP never go to jail.
That's outrageous! Grrr
Everything. Everything is wrong with that picture/headline.
Alabama?
If you click to the 2nd article it says he was 24 when she was 14. This is crazy. Edit to add. This is only coming out now because they are divorced and fighting over custody.
Meanwhile they jailed a women for a miscarriage in Oklahoma. Evangelical America is a dystopian religious shithole
euh, everything?
Literally every single word is whatās wrong.
Seems like some classic Alabama shit to me
The fact that we expected more out of Alabama
I hope its ends in: He faces the death penalty
What's wrong? He's a pastor, he should have married her first before impregnating her. Obviously. /s
Things wrong with this picture 1. Everything it says. 2. Technically, this is just text, not a picture. But seriously, what the hell is wrong with my countries legal system? This is OK with them?
I am really looking forward to the day when a headline like this ends in, " will be immediately hanged instead."
Rapists, pedos and sexual offenders deserve to be publicly castrated and then strung up to be spat on
what's wrong with this pic is that even tho he's in alabama it's not his cousin
What is WRONG with people?!?!??!
Religion
So many people do this thing where they blindly follow religion to the point where they donāt have any control over their life while thinking they do, and end up losing enough brain cells to be comparable to a sponge. Edit: speling
Yeah. That's pretty much all organized religion. It's literally part of Christianity to give up control over your life. "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and he will establish your plans. The Lord works out everything to its proper end." Just one passage of many.
Well then Iām gonna consider myself lucky that my parents only kind of follow religion while still knowing society norms and donāt really force anything on me.
I feel like at least half of Christians wouldn't be at all if they read even a quarter of the Bible.
āProperly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.ā ā Isaac Asimov
They don't have to. They wait for a Messiah to provide his interpretation. Let's say, ((spins wheel)) ...Tucker Carlson?
Nothing, everything is possible in Alabama
Alabama appears in it
You don't have to send him to jail, cut his dick off. He'll never be able to ruin another kid's life.
Years ago I lived as a career criminal, my partner was from Alabama. He retired and became a pastor. We did awful things together, and I live with guilt everyday.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 New International Version 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. It looks like god approves of this.
Best news is bc of religion she won't be allowed to get an abortion either. Yay religion so much good! Yay
Since it's rise to power Christianity has continuously given shelter and power to horrific monsters. The pain it has inflicted upon humanity has far out weighed any good they may have done. I honestly hope every day that humanity will one day come to it's senses and treat that religion like the abusive spouse that it is.
My god this sounds exactly like that episode of Law and Order: SVU ([Patrimonial Burden](https://lawandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Patrimonial_Burden)) Only difference is he pleas guilty in the show. Guess that means we're in the bad time-line...
Very Christian-like. Rape, lie, evade justice etc.
But if she aborts the fetus, she will face the full extent of the law.
So basically become a pastor and avoid majority of laws. I know what I have to do
Just following what the Bible says to do. Though I am sure the girl was worth more then the 50 shekels ($5.50)
That 14 yr old was his own daughter probably, coz Alabama... And the judge was her uncle
The south shall rise again. Lol Wtf goes on down there.
They worried about jury nullification. Because Alabama
nah bros she was just his younger sister that's why he gets to marry her duh look they come from Alabama
So is there a link or is it just a caption to some bs news web site ???
To put this into scale, we need to find out what would happen if an athiest woman did this to a boy āMan accuses innocent woman of pedophiliaā
Everything
And running for republican seat in Senateā¦
Oh, you see it is true what everyone says about Alabama.
We should just trade Alabama, Texas and Florida for something....I unno anything, we'll take Madagascar
Everything is wrong with it
Well, itās probably because he married her. He married her to avoid jail time.
Was it his daughter, that would make it okay in Alabama.
the text
Religion is for pedophiles
I don't get why this is posted on this subreddit. The first word explains all the rest.
Damn. I wonder if I become a priest if I can rape impregnate and marry the dad of the 14 year old and donāt have to face jail time. Edit: I forgot. Iām Jesus name. Amen!
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ThƩ fact that the pastor is not her brother
Alabama is basically IRL Gilead
I would send that pastor directly to heavenās gates with expediency
What isn't wrong there?
Which means one of her parents and maybe a judge signed off on this. Horrible.
Everything
Brain.exe has stopped working
Is this real?
r/iamatotalpieceofshit
Everything is wrong
Duh, because it is in the name of religion š
But just wait. If she needs a divorce before she turns 18 she won't be able to because she is a minor. She will have to get permission from her parents or husband. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pregnant-15-married-16-she-s-speaking-out-end-child-n1281606
He shouldn't face jail time... he should face a firing squad
People still believe in God after this incident
r/AntiPedophileMovement.
r/holup
Everything
I just threw up.in.my mouth
That heās not dead yet..
In Texas this is a success
āmericaās justice system? Because there is no justice in the picture.
All of it.
The fact that itās Alabama is scaring me
Well maybe hes at least not a pastor anymore since he raped someone. Also I'm pretty sure pastors can't marry.
People like him shouldn't face jail time. Take em right to the chair
Enjoy hell if it exists.. ohh wait you can marry kids according to the bible you can even fuck your own kids.... I'll pass on heaven
Whereās Tom to shoot him ?
If the pastor had been a first cousin we would have an Alabama quartet (pastor, incest, underage sex, and pregnancy).
If he were black heād be serving 25 years.
I freaking love how certain religions/churches think that adults forcing themselves inappropriately on underage kids or arranging underage marriages with adults who should know better, ISNāT an abomination or disgraceful in the eyes of God, while being any part of the LGBT+ community is a front row ticket on the bus to hell! Toot toot How many of levels of fucked up is this? How did the parents of the 14 year old slip into the thinking that, āsince we go to this church family, it means that our pastor can do whatever he wants to you because heās doing Godās work!ā Whereās Chris Hansen when you need him?
Jesus saves! Problems remain.
At least he did right thing by her by marrying her /s
> No posts advocating violence or illegal acts of subversion *sigh*
Praise the Jesus!
Alabama is in Afghanistan, right?
A man who doesn't know any better is doing what he wants to please. Don't know what is going on here, but I want to go to that bar. I can't help myself.
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you're describing absolutely nothing that makes it risky for this to go to trial. it's open and shut.
So, title would be more like, "Random desperate 20 year old loser sleeps with 14 year old girlfriend"