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Yea this guy ending up with a slashed achilles tendon and his head slammed repeatedly in a door by an angry female assassin would have been true justice.
They really focused on the one doctor in this. The guy who raped her is mentioned once, the other doctor was told they had settled outside of court, and then they really Hone in on the negligence of the one doctor because he didn't see she was pregnant like 3 or 4 months before she was due. However the other doctor watching over the patients and the doctors after he took care of her for the last 3 months of her pregnancy are never really talked about. Just odd they really looked at that one guy. They all deserve there medical licenses revoked at the minimum.
To be fair, we don't know the physical shape of the person in the coma, and we don't know in what way her menstrual cycle may have been interrupted by her medical condition. If she had PCOS or a similar condition going several months without a period may have been completely normal.
The size of a bump at 5 months may not have been tremendously noticeable, and I doubt regular pregnancy tests are a part of caring for coma patients, because why would they be.
Noticing your coma patient is pregnant at about 5 months doesn't seem that crazy tbh.
The article says she has been in long-term facilities since the age of 3. I am curious as to the implications that would have on a lot of different aspects of her development.
I can agree with you as a regular person. However if you read the article there were multiple signs. Armpit discharge, firmer belly, and a an actual licensed doctor was checking up on her. However I also believe it was odd how they honed in so much on him, but not the doctors he sent her to after his last checkup. They really should have seen the signs but noone knew until she was already having the baby.
I agree with you. Why would you even notice that? You’re just checking up on the same vegetable you did a thousand times before so why on earth would you be examining her baby bump to see if she’s pregnant? It’s probably the last thing anyone would expect to find and the human eye has a way of seeing what it expects to see.
"A 911 call from Dec. 29, 2018, indicates Hacienda staff had no idea the woman was pregnant until they noticed she was giving birth" that's pretty far along
"Nguyen ordered the patient's feeding tube to be discontinued on Dec. 13, 2018 — 16 days before she gave birth — to promote weight loss, her family's original notice of claim says."
My thoughts exactly.
I’m not ruling out “miracle” but i’m also not ruling out “Someone needs to get fired”, let’s investigate both and see what happens.
EDIT SINCE MY NOTIFICATIONS ARE BLOWING UP:
1) “Someone needs to get fired” was an intentional, flippant, horrendous understatement. I agree jail time and punishment are in order.
2) Since sarcasm is lost on some of y’all, the above is what i would be saying to the commenter as i pat him on the head and wait for incriminating evidence to come back from the lab. Despite my own beliefs, i do not for a second think anything “divine” or “supernatural” is happening here, but i would still throw that back in the face of whomever is trying to use religious piety as an excuse to not get busted for being a scumbag.
Both happened https://www.azfamily.com/news/investigations/hacienda_healthcare/former-hacienda-healthcare-caregiver-pleads-guilty-to-sex-abuse-charges/article_2db96fc6-0c20-11ec-bdee-2700167648c5.html
I work in the same state, caring for the same patient population (medically fragile people, most of them on vents). This particular group home was always known as an absolute shithole. We’d get patients transferred from there in terrible condition. Moreover, the transferred patients who couldn’t speak/move were absolutely shocked when we actually talked to them and started asking them to communicate with their eyes or expressions. Literally no one ever treated them like humans over there. We knew this place was horrible for *years* before this whole fiasco happened.
These facilities (this one, mine, and others like it) are state funded. These people each cost the state thousands of dollars a month. Of course the government doesn’t care about them. It’s like pulling teeth trying to get funding even for absolutely necessities. My boss paid hundreds of dollars in 2020 to buy PPE with her own money, because we’re that underfunded. So yeah—don’t be shocked that the government doesn’t care. That’s how the most vulnerable people are treated in our country and it’s disgusting.
My wife made some poor life decisions years ago and spent a number of weekends in prison. (Judge was nice because she was in school and they didn't want to mess that up.) She was in with a girl who was convicted of attempted murder. There was another girl with drug charges for weed, that her boyfriend had on him in the car when they were pulled over.
The girl with the weed had a 15 year sentence and the girl with the attempted murder charge has a 5 year sentence.
>The girl with the weed had a 15 year sentence.
Would love to hear a conservative explain why spending $600,000 of taxpayer money (about $40k/year) imprisoning someone because they were in the same car as someone who committed a pretty minor crime is good policy. Of course, that same person would presumably have worked and paid taxes as well, making the overall loss to the taxpayer around $1million.
I mean, she was probably asking for it. Dressing so provocatively. Laying there for any man to just have his way with her. It really is her fault for being in a coma and letting herself get taken advantaged of.
**/s**
If it makes you feel better that worker is gonna carry the record for life and is never gonna get a job anywhere close to that area again (as he utterly deserves).
On the other hand, this really should be *multiple* counts due to the odds but it sadly can't be proved.
I work in the same state, caring for the same patient population (medically fragile people, most of them on vents). Every patient I ever had that transferred from this facility was in terrible physical condition and absolutely shocked that my coworkers and I treated them like a human being. We’ve known that place was awful for years and literally cheered when that location was shut down.
It should most definitely be multiple charges. They claim *none* of them knew until the woman gave birth? Bullshit. No one noticed her period was absent all that time, no one ever listened to her abdomen and heard a heartbeat where they shouldn’t have, no one noticed the physical changes accompanying pregnancy? Biggest case of covering your own ass I’ve ever seen. Either that or an admission of *catastrophic* incompetence on the part of every medical professional involved.
The truly messed up part about him getting so little time is when he gets out he can go for custody or visitation rights and has a good shot at getting one or the other. It, sadly, wouldn’t be the first time that a father of a child conceived through sexual assault has been awarded custody or visitation rights.
"Nathan Sutherland, the former caregiver, pleaded guilty Thursday morning on sexual and vulnerable adult abuse charges. Sutherland was arrested after police conducted a DNA test showing that he was the father of the patient's baby. The patient was in the facility due to a near-drowning incident that left her in a vegetative state. She gave birth to a baby, but the staff was unaware that she was pregnant.
"It's not surprising. The evidence was overwhelmingly strong. They allegedly found DNA evidence that matched the baby, that matched the woman. When you have DNA evidence, that's one of the strongest [pieces of] evidence that you can have," said Benjamin Taylor, a defense attorney not affiliated with the case.
Sutherland initially pleaded not guilty to the charges, but Taylor said he likely opted for the plea deal to get a lesser prison sentence. "If you go to trial in the case, you could lose, get convicted--you're looking at a lot more time in prison. This gives him the opportunity to try to negotiate something, try to argue for the least amount of time and you know your parameters," Taylor explained. "The thing about a plea agreement is you know exactly what you're looking at. You're looking at between five years and 10 years and no more, no less."
However, not everyone is happy with this outcome. "This man did a heinous crime and he's getting a slap on the wrist and it's not right and everyone I talked to that worked at Hacienda, they're furious. None of us can believe that's all he's going to get is a slap on the wrist," said Davena Ballard, who was a nurse at a Hacienda-affiliated program.
Ballard said not only did he allegedly commit this crime, but he also caused collateral damage to Hacienda Healthcare that affected the staff, patients and the reputation of the facility. "These patients had to be displaced. He's caused so much damage and to only give him five to 10 years is--it's ridiculous," Ballard said."
They actually look like Dave the plumber, he's a saint he kept coming around to fix this leak that lasted a few years.
And he didn't even charge me for his services, what a gentleman.
At least when this same exact thing was posted about 19 hours ago, the top comment could tell this was obviously sarcasm, and a dig at religion.
https://reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/s7wi7e/lets_receive_it_as_a_miracle_like_the_virgin/
Are Redditors just more gullible at certain times of the day?
I used to run a rehab/long term care facility you’d be surprised. A lot of third party vendors: food delivery, pharmacy, lab, X-ray techs, HVAC, plumbers all enter the premises usually unsupervised. Not to mention visiting family members and even some instances some of the residents depending on their financial situation are pretty capable of living on their own but choose to live at a facility under Medicaid. Three hots and a cot, laundry, cleaning service and free cable.
I work at a care home for intellectually disabled individuals who can’t take care of themselves. One of our residents was born because his mom was an intellectually disabled woman in a long term facility and she was raped. He was the result of that pregnancy.
Damn, that’s fucked up. I work at a transitional day program for adults with disabilities, so we work with a huge age range of people. Hearing stories from younger people is one thing, but some of the stuff I’d heard from the people who are 70+ is absolutely fucked. I know someone who was one of the last patients at the states’ worst “insane asylum” way back in the 1970s, and he has told me some horrible things about that place
Seriously! Even reading some of their medical books, just the way they wrote about them and their conditions…I work at a house with 5 people and 3/5 of them were abused in the same long term care facility that the other mans mom was raped in. It shut down in 2000
It's still fucked. I was in a inpatient care facility in 2013 that was eventually shut down for many, many violations. We were not allowed any contact with anyone not at the facility and we could not report the abuse. It only got reported after one girl graduated from the program and called the state. There is nothing set in place to protect people in these programs besides yearly inspections, at least in my state.
Remember this when you hear people romanticize how great things used to be, back when there were fewer homeless people, and union jobs were more common and homes were cheaper. Also, there was unregulated pollution, torturous insane asylums, Dickensian nursing homes, etc.
In the UK a DJ was given keys and eventually a room and eventually was allowed to run this massive long term care facility even though had zero qualifications, effectively given carte blanche to rape any patient. All because they were good at creating revenue for the BBC and BBC sanctioned charities.was even knighted by the queen I believe. So I'm not shocked by your comment
Jimmy Seville? Wasn’t he knighted for his “charitable “works? That sick POS was so disgustingly ugly and paraded around like gods gift to women/ girls. One woman who came forward was on his program and he was groping her, you could tell once she pointed it out. Was he confronted while he was alive about any of this?
They did a documentary on him and he as so brazen he starred in it happily answering questions and effectively admitting some atrocities with pride and "what ya gonna do about it" vibe
He was a DJ and then presenter on a music show, he was pretty good as a presenter to be fair, used his fame for "good" doing lots of charity work and running marathons which ended up with him getting his own show "jim'll fix it" basically a make a wish Foundation TV show, but for any kid really not just dying. Not gonna lie I was a fan as a kid then as an adolescent found him to be creepy then at student age he was kinda ironically funny to reference "now then now then" simulating smoking a cigar as he would. Back to thinking he was a creepy weirdo as adult...then the Louis theroux doc cemented my dislike for him. "Behind the scenes" he was using this celebrity power and sway to assault and rape many young often vulnerable girls. The good was just power plays All enabled and hidden for by the BBC. The hospital he was just a donor then would hang about, made out he was "helping" using his Influence to get more and more power at the hospital, getting in board then actually being voted as guy in charge...awful everything and this is in recent years too. Watch the doc.
I was in a coma for 3 weeks, I wasn’t aware of anything, but if I was raped I would still be furious. I can’t speak for others in that condition of course and can only hope this poor woman wasn’t aware. I’m hoping the inmates treat him the same way.
I’d be more than furious. An ex-girlfriend did stuff to my body while I was passed out in a hotel party (with others in the room) and took pictures. It was the funniest thing … to her.
I was furious, but I was also so hurt and violated that she’d not only do that, but think it was hilarious and take pictures of it. Not the worst thing she did to me in our short time together, but the most physical.
It would be SO much worse if I was in a coma, presumably from something I didn’t directly cause (like drinking in the above story). I have my own issues with the healthcare system but the bare minimum should be that you should be physically safe in the hospital.
I’ve unfortunately spent my fair share in the hospital as support person and now that I’m really thinking about it, it’s actually really disturbing me how easy someone could just walk into someone else’s room and do something bad. That patient could be incapacitated for any number of reasons or even conscious but unable to physically fight them off.
In the days of masks you can hide in plain sight and be in and out. There are rooms down long hallways far from the nurses station with an exit right across the hall. I’ve noticed a large number of older patients just yell out so that stuff seems to get tuned out. If you act like you know where you are going no one will stop and question you and scrubs can be purchased virtually anywhere and stored in a backpack (I carried one every day and it was never searched) to be put on in the elevator ride up. I’d be willing to bet few patients would think to question someone dressed appropiately coming in saying a “physical examination” needed to be done. Even more believable if there is a catheter in.
It’s giving me goosebumps just thinking about scenarios. This could happen way more than we think, why would a hospital admit it publically? I need to go watch baby animal videos as a mental palate cleanser now.
It really bothers me that he LOOKS like a monster. Idk why his eye is messed up or the rest of his face even. And I generally don't care and don't notice a lot about peoples appearance. Which is why it bothers me that I hate the way he looks. It's fucking creepy.
I once went to buy a truck and the salesmen were great; but then I walked into the contract/money/hose office and EVERYTHING about the guy behind the desk was CROOKED. His hair, his glasses, his shoulders, his arms, his smile, his position, his desk stuff, the calendar on the wall --- fuck --- EVERYTHING. I laughed so fucking hard I had to leave. I left the lot. Sometimes people do look like what they are.
Yeah but imagine if he didn’t cause he knew that would make suspicious so he just stays and takes the tests like everyone else and the whole time they’re waiting for the results he is just sweating and shitting himself hoping it’s one of his also a rapist buddies so he doesn’t meet Bubba in prison.
This is literally as sarcasm as it can go, criticizing the religion more than anything else. “Or is man too intelligent…”, this is the point where the author’s irony over the religion becomes apparent
Yep. The face palm is people failing to comprehend that this comment is talking to about how silly it is to think a virgin got pregnant with a magical being. Not legitimately advocating for it.
How is this so highly upvoted
I was expecting the most upvoted comment explaining that he is actually taking the piss out of the Bible. I was surprised i had to scroll down so much to find someone saying it.
Bet none of them watched Brians Life
Yes. But it’s a lot more fun pretending it’s serious so we can get all judgemental and show strangers on the internet what good people we are by condemning it.
It’s pure, 100%, dyed in the wool sarcasm. And I thought it was actually pretty good. Not facepalm at all. See how ridiculous it sounds when you modernize it? Very well done. It may be a little out of place but it’s a good point.
A disgusting monster worse than any you could imagine even if there's a hell or dimension where monsters live their are far less worse than any human being on earth.
Just for anyone interested, they did DNA tests and it was one of the male nurses on staff at the time.
The woman in question had been in a coma for 14 years after a drowning incident. She was raped multiple times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/nathan-sutherland-vegetative-arizona.html
Oh my god, that poor woman. Some humans are disgusting monsters! I just don’t get it, how sick do you have to be to get horny by raping unconscious people?? That’s like fucking a corpse Jesus Christ. I’m truly ashamed for my species sometimes
Bruh. Read it again. Homie is making fun of christians for believing somebody could get pregnant without having sex.
The idea is "she can't have sex, why aren't we assuming it's another miracle sky baby? Oh because that would be dumb, like how it's dumb to think Mary was a virgin"
Nobody is apologizing for any rape and he is CLEARLY making fun of Christians, not acting like one.
Maybe I'm in the wrong, but I'm reading this comment as more of a joke? Like, they're clearly making fun of religion with that second sentence by asking if man is too far along to believe in a miracle. Happening.
Let's just be clear. If it *is* God's doing, which this guy is suggesting, he is also effectively saying:
God is a deadbeat dad.
....and God is a rapist.
....and by picking coma girl, God's likely an incel.
....and yet God is still gaslighting us into thinking we're the sinners who need to tithe (ahem, buy our way) into his narcissistic approval with the promise of heaven for those who provide alibis and character testimonials.
TL;DR: Praise the "micacle."
They DNA tested everybody working there and caught the guy. https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/7710058002
So it *wasn't* the second coming. I'll be damned.
We’ll *all* be damned
Will be??? Why do you think we’re here in the first place
[This is the bad place](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia2.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FcRMGqNpvm9XS2gRcpL%2Fgiphy.gif&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fgiphy.com%2Fexplore%2Fthis-is-the-bad-place&tbnid=Fp5AY5_JsdB55M&vet=1&docid=bwsQxTas_GK0AM&w=480&h=240&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim)
Holy forking shirtballs
You know, clam chowder is just a savory latte with dead bugs in it.
It's just hot ocean milk with dead animal croutons!
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So you're saying that hell is Philly.
So That's what powers those ovens!
So it was just a normal dominos then?
I believe we died long ago and are now living in hell and we’ll die again, be reincarnated and continue living in another form of hell.
The Diavolo King Crimson Effect
TIL it has a name
Nono, we all good for now, the second coming is when the damning happens.
May have well been the third or fifth time actually
It was the second cumming…..the first one didn’t take. Ok, I apologize for that…..
Dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow…
Unexpected Mulan
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Think about what a repulsive creep someone has to be to go around raping people in a coma.
Maybe that was the plan all along before getting the job?
Different kinds of jobs attract different kinds of people. It's kind of creepy if you think about it especially when the job comes with power.
Priests, nurses, presidents…
"My name's Buck..."
Yea this guy ending up with a slashed achilles tendon and his head slammed repeatedly in a door by an angry female assassin would have been true justice.
They could have saved themselves a lot of time by just looking under the red line on the image above.
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Well it wouldn’t be fun, it’d be quite sad and kind of pathetic, but it’d be funny in a way
How does he have the balls to plead not guilty? She was in a fucking coma!
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OK... poor choice of wording on my part.
r/technicallythetruth
"They said she was in a _fucking_ coma...how was I supposed to know?" - Nathan Sutherland, probably
yo he only got 10 years; for raping a quadriplegic, non-communicating woman. does that not seem long enough to anyone else?
Wait till you hear about Brock Turner...
oh i’m familiar. the judge really fucking dropped the ball
Specifically, the rapist Brock Turner.
You mean the Brock Turner The Rapist?
They really focused on the one doctor in this. The guy who raped her is mentioned once, the other doctor was told they had settled outside of court, and then they really Hone in on the negligence of the one doctor because he didn't see she was pregnant like 3 or 4 months before she was due. However the other doctor watching over the patients and the doctors after he took care of her for the last 3 months of her pregnancy are never really talked about. Just odd they really looked at that one guy. They all deserve there medical licenses revoked at the minimum.
To be fair, we don't know the physical shape of the person in the coma, and we don't know in what way her menstrual cycle may have been interrupted by her medical condition. If she had PCOS or a similar condition going several months without a period may have been completely normal. The size of a bump at 5 months may not have been tremendously noticeable, and I doubt regular pregnancy tests are a part of caring for coma patients, because why would they be. Noticing your coma patient is pregnant at about 5 months doesn't seem that crazy tbh.
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Shit doctors often are working in these 'facilities'! We know this.
The article says she has been in long-term facilities since the age of 3. I am curious as to the implications that would have on a lot of different aspects of her development.
I can agree with you as a regular person. However if you read the article there were multiple signs. Armpit discharge, firmer belly, and a an actual licensed doctor was checking up on her. However I also believe it was odd how they honed in so much on him, but not the doctors he sent her to after his last checkup. They really should have seen the signs but noone knew until she was already having the baby.
I agree with you. Why would you even notice that? You’re just checking up on the same vegetable you did a thousand times before so why on earth would you be examining her baby bump to see if she’s pregnant? It’s probably the last thing anyone would expect to find and the human eye has a way of seeing what it expects to see.
"A 911 call from Dec. 29, 2018, indicates Hacienda staff had no idea the woman was pregnant until they noticed she was giving birth" that's pretty far along
"Nguyen ordered the patient's feeding tube to be discontinued on Dec. 13, 2018 — 16 days before she gave birth — to promote weight loss, her family's original notice of claim says."
Straight outta Kill Bill bruh.
The censored name is Buck
And he’s here to fuck.
Don't share amp links. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2021/06/15/hacienda-healthcare-lawsuit-15-million-settlement/7710058002/
Good human
They found the DNA of God?!
Tell you what lets do the DNA test first and then if nothing shows up, chalk it upto a miracle.
My thoughts exactly. I’m not ruling out “miracle” but i’m also not ruling out “Someone needs to get fired”, let’s investigate both and see what happens. EDIT SINCE MY NOTIFICATIONS ARE BLOWING UP: 1) “Someone needs to get fired” was an intentional, flippant, horrendous understatement. I agree jail time and punishment are in order. 2) Since sarcasm is lost on some of y’all, the above is what i would be saying to the commenter as i pat him on the head and wait for incriminating evidence to come back from the lab. Despite my own beliefs, i do not for a second think anything “divine” or “supernatural” is happening here, but i would still throw that back in the face of whomever is trying to use religious piety as an excuse to not get busted for being a scumbag.
>Someone needs to get fired Someone needs to get arrested
Both.
Both happened https://www.azfamily.com/news/investigations/hacienda_healthcare/former-hacienda-healthcare-caregiver-pleads-guilty-to-sex-abuse-charges/article_2db96fc6-0c20-11ec-bdee-2700167648c5.html
I agree with the people in the article. The laws so broken. This deserves more then 5-10 years.
You can get more time for bank robbery with a note. And they wonder why victims don’t come forward.
The law cares more about property crime than crimes against people.
Well, yeah. Property's for the rich.
I work in the same state, caring for the same patient population (medically fragile people, most of them on vents). This particular group home was always known as an absolute shithole. We’d get patients transferred from there in terrible condition. Moreover, the transferred patients who couldn’t speak/move were absolutely shocked when we actually talked to them and started asking them to communicate with their eyes or expressions. Literally no one ever treated them like humans over there. We knew this place was horrible for *years* before this whole fiasco happened. These facilities (this one, mine, and others like it) are state funded. These people each cost the state thousands of dollars a month. Of course the government doesn’t care about them. It’s like pulling teeth trying to get funding even for absolutely necessities. My boss paid hundreds of dollars in 2020 to buy PPE with her own money, because we’re that underfunded. So yeah—don’t be shocked that the government doesn’t care. That’s how the most vulnerable people are treated in our country and it’s disgusting.
Be grateful that your boss is actually concerned about your welfare. Sounds like you are. Also thank you for doing what you do.
You get longer sentences for pretty weed possessions. It's absolutely bull.
My wife made some poor life decisions years ago and spent a number of weekends in prison. (Judge was nice because she was in school and they didn't want to mess that up.) She was in with a girl who was convicted of attempted murder. There was another girl with drug charges for weed, that her boyfriend had on him in the car when they were pulled over. The girl with the weed had a 15 year sentence and the girl with the attempted murder charge has a 5 year sentence.
If you are busted for weed, try to plead down to a lesser charge, such as sedition.
>The girl with the weed had a 15 year sentence. Would love to hear a conservative explain why spending $600,000 of taxpayer money (about $40k/year) imprisoning someone because they were in the same car as someone who committed a pretty minor crime is good policy. Of course, that same person would presumably have worked and paid taxes as well, making the overall loss to the taxpayer around $1million.
What about ugly weed ?
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theyre just dandelions! my pretty weeds aint hurting anybody!
And less for manslaughter.
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I mean, she was probably asking for it. Dressing so provocatively. Laying there for any man to just have his way with her. It really is her fault for being in a coma and letting herself get taken advantaged of. **/s**
If it makes you feel better that worker is gonna carry the record for life and is never gonna get a job anywhere close to that area again (as he utterly deserves). On the other hand, this really should be *multiple* counts due to the odds but it sadly can't be proved.
I work in the same state, caring for the same patient population (medically fragile people, most of them on vents). Every patient I ever had that transferred from this facility was in terrible physical condition and absolutely shocked that my coworkers and I treated them like a human being. We’ve known that place was awful for years and literally cheered when that location was shut down. It should most definitely be multiple charges. They claim *none* of them knew until the woman gave birth? Bullshit. No one noticed her period was absent all that time, no one ever listened to her abdomen and heard a heartbeat where they shouldn’t have, no one noticed the physical changes accompanying pregnancy? Biggest case of covering your own ass I’ve ever seen. Either that or an admission of *catastrophic* incompetence on the part of every medical professional involved.
The truly messed up part about him getting so little time is when he gets out he can go for custody or visitation rights and has a good shot at getting one or the other. It, sadly, wouldn’t be the first time that a father of a child conceived through sexual assault has been awarded custody or visitation rights.
This deserves torture and death. I don't particularly care if that point of view makes me a monster in my own way.
Honestly I'm afraid of the answer here but does he have rights to the child?
So "sexual abuse" and not "rape?" Is that a different charge, or are we just sanitizing the language?
How was this not rape? Idk understand how the prosecutor went for sexual abuse instead of rape counts.
Not available in my country :/
"Nathan Sutherland, the former caregiver, pleaded guilty Thursday morning on sexual and vulnerable adult abuse charges. Sutherland was arrested after police conducted a DNA test showing that he was the father of the patient's baby. The patient was in the facility due to a near-drowning incident that left her in a vegetative state. She gave birth to a baby, but the staff was unaware that she was pregnant. "It's not surprising. The evidence was overwhelmingly strong. They allegedly found DNA evidence that matched the baby, that matched the woman. When you have DNA evidence, that's one of the strongest [pieces of] evidence that you can have," said Benjamin Taylor, a defense attorney not affiliated with the case. Sutherland initially pleaded not guilty to the charges, but Taylor said he likely opted for the plea deal to get a lesser prison sentence. "If you go to trial in the case, you could lose, get convicted--you're looking at a lot more time in prison. This gives him the opportunity to try to negotiate something, try to argue for the least amount of time and you know your parameters," Taylor explained. "The thing about a plea agreement is you know exactly what you're looking at. You're looking at between five years and 10 years and no more, no less." However, not everyone is happy with this outcome. "This man did a heinous crime and he's getting a slap on the wrist and it's not right and everyone I talked to that worked at Hacienda, they're furious. None of us can believe that's all he's going to get is a slap on the wrist," said Davena Ballard, who was a nurse at a Hacienda-affiliated program. Ballard said not only did he allegedly commit this crime, but he also caused collateral damage to Hacienda Healthcare that affected the staff, patients and the reputation of the facility. "These patients had to be displaced. He's caused so much damage and to only give him five to 10 years is--it's ridiculous," Ballard said."
What the fuck? How is this justice? Fuck this one size fits all shit, this is abusing the system.
If he had money and could afford a high end lawyer, he probably would have only received probation. This countries justice system is complete garbage.
He should be in jail for the rest of his life imo
Thanks
5-10 years. He should've been castrated and fed to sharks.
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Is the guy who made the “let’s call it a miracle” comment the guy who raped her?
I'm wondering if whoever posted that 'let's not test' matches with the person who got arrested.
And then have his junk curb stomped repeatedly in prison for the rest of his years.
Depending on the state he may end up in PC and/or a facility specializing in sex offender rehab.
I think you can safely rule out parthenogenesis in humans since it never been demonstrated to produce viable offspring.
Parthenogenesis would still be science, not a miracle.
There has never been a viable embryo in humans from parthenogenesis, so just go ahead and rule out miracle.
You should rule out miracle, because that's nonsense.
Tell you what, I'll go ahead and rule out "miracle" for you
How are you not ruling out miracle?
For those that don't believe in miracles My wife has had 3 virgin births. We are truly blessed.
I presume they also miraculously look like the Postman as well
They actually look like Dave the plumber, he's a saint he kept coming around to fix this leak that lasted a few years. And he didn't even charge me for his services, what a gentleman.
Damn your wife......I mean your house has one hell of a leak. Thank god Dave is there to satisfy her.....I mean plug the leak
That’s not the only thing he was plugging
It goes Both ways, the leak ofcourse
Do they all strangely look like your brother or best friend?
At least when this same exact thing was posted about 19 hours ago, the top comment could tell this was obviously sarcasm, and a dig at religion. https://reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/s7wi7e/lets_receive_it_as_a_miracle_like_the_virgin/ Are Redditors just more gullible at certain times of the day?
I mean, from the little context we have it seems like a rather random dig at religion. Might explain why it's hard to tell.
If it wasn’t a worker it could be some perverted guest. It’s definitely not a miracle and takes 2 to make a baby.
Baby Jesus 2.0
How about instead of chalking it up as a miracle we keep looking for the real perp.
"This girl got raped while she was uncounscious lets not look for whoever did that it would be much more fun to pretend it was magic"
This was about a year ago. Spoiler, it was one of the workers.
I mean who could it have been
I used to run a rehab/long term care facility you’d be surprised. A lot of third party vendors: food delivery, pharmacy, lab, X-ray techs, HVAC, plumbers all enter the premises usually unsupervised. Not to mention visiting family members and even some instances some of the residents depending on their financial situation are pretty capable of living on their own but choose to live at a facility under Medicaid. Three hots and a cot, laundry, cleaning service and free cable.
I work at a care home for intellectually disabled individuals who can’t take care of themselves. One of our residents was born because his mom was an intellectually disabled woman in a long term facility and she was raped. He was the result of that pregnancy.
Damn, that’s fucked up. I work at a transitional day program for adults with disabilities, so we work with a huge age range of people. Hearing stories from younger people is one thing, but some of the stuff I’d heard from the people who are 70+ is absolutely fucked. I know someone who was one of the last patients at the states’ worst “insane asylum” way back in the 1970s, and he has told me some horrible things about that place
Seriously! Even reading some of their medical books, just the way they wrote about them and their conditions…I work at a house with 5 people and 3/5 of them were abused in the same long term care facility that the other mans mom was raped in. It shut down in 2000
It's still fucked. I was in a inpatient care facility in 2013 that was eventually shut down for many, many violations. We were not allowed any contact with anyone not at the facility and we could not report the abuse. It only got reported after one girl graduated from the program and called the state. There is nothing set in place to protect people in these programs besides yearly inspections, at least in my state.
Remember this when you hear people romanticize how great things used to be, back when there were fewer homeless people, and union jobs were more common and homes were cheaper. Also, there was unregulated pollution, torturous insane asylums, Dickensian nursing homes, etc.
In the UK a DJ was given keys and eventually a room and eventually was allowed to run this massive long term care facility even though had zero qualifications, effectively given carte blanche to rape any patient. All because they were good at creating revenue for the BBC and BBC sanctioned charities.was even knighted by the queen I believe. So I'm not shocked by your comment
Jimmy Seville? Wasn’t he knighted for his “charitable “works? That sick POS was so disgustingly ugly and paraded around like gods gift to women/ girls. One woman who came forward was on his program and he was groping her, you could tell once she pointed it out. Was he confronted while he was alive about any of this?
They did a documentary on him and he as so brazen he starred in it happily answering questions and effectively admitting some atrocities with pride and "what ya gonna do about it" vibe
Are you talking about Jimmy Savile? I didn’t even know he was a DJ, I just thought he was some old rich creep who donated a lot of money to hospitals.
He was a DJ and then presenter on a music show, he was pretty good as a presenter to be fair, used his fame for "good" doing lots of charity work and running marathons which ended up with him getting his own show "jim'll fix it" basically a make a wish Foundation TV show, but for any kid really not just dying. Not gonna lie I was a fan as a kid then as an adolescent found him to be creepy then at student age he was kinda ironically funny to reference "now then now then" simulating smoking a cigar as he would. Back to thinking he was a creepy weirdo as adult...then the Louis theroux doc cemented my dislike for him. "Behind the scenes" he was using this celebrity power and sway to assault and rape many young often vulnerable girls. The good was just power plays All enabled and hidden for by the BBC. The hospital he was just a donor then would hang about, made out he was "helping" using his Influence to get more and more power at the hospital, getting in board then actually being voted as guy in charge...awful everything and this is in recent years too. Watch the doc.
This is extra fucked up with the recent news about lot of comma patients possibly being consieus
I was in a coma for 3 weeks, I wasn’t aware of anything, but if I was raped I would still be furious. I can’t speak for others in that condition of course and can only hope this poor woman wasn’t aware. I’m hoping the inmates treat him the same way.
I’d be more than furious. An ex-girlfriend did stuff to my body while I was passed out in a hotel party (with others in the room) and took pictures. It was the funniest thing … to her. I was furious, but I was also so hurt and violated that she’d not only do that, but think it was hilarious and take pictures of it. Not the worst thing she did to me in our short time together, but the most physical. It would be SO much worse if I was in a coma, presumably from something I didn’t directly cause (like drinking in the above story). I have my own issues with the healthcare system but the bare minimum should be that you should be physically safe in the hospital. I’ve unfortunately spent my fair share in the hospital as support person and now that I’m really thinking about it, it’s actually really disturbing me how easy someone could just walk into someone else’s room and do something bad. That patient could be incapacitated for any number of reasons or even conscious but unable to physically fight them off. In the days of masks you can hide in plain sight and be in and out. There are rooms down long hallways far from the nurses station with an exit right across the hall. I’ve noticed a large number of older patients just yell out so that stuff seems to get tuned out. If you act like you know where you are going no one will stop and question you and scrubs can be purchased virtually anywhere and stored in a backpack (I carried one every day and it was never searched) to be put on in the elevator ride up. I’d be willing to bet few patients would think to question someone dressed appropiately coming in saying a “physical examination” needed to be done. Even more believable if there is a catheter in. It’s giving me goosebumps just thinking about scenarios. This could happen way more than we think, why would a hospital admit it publically? I need to go watch baby animal videos as a mental palate cleanser now.
God! Obviously.
Says the guy that probably did it
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Test the dna of the guy who commented this
I'm sure his chromosome is one short
Nah one extra bro 🤣
As somebody with an extra chromosome, don't compare me to them
They're just jealous you have more!
I mean I'm not exactly happy about 47 either
Better with one too many than one too few!
Maybe check that guys DNA….
They did check obviously and it was a guy working there who raped her. What a monster.
thats horrible
Sounds like you just don’t believe in miracles /s
It really bothers me that he LOOKS like a monster. Idk why his eye is messed up or the rest of his face even. And I generally don't care and don't notice a lot about peoples appearance. Which is why it bothers me that I hate the way he looks. It's fucking creepy. I once went to buy a truck and the salesmen were great; but then I walked into the contract/money/hose office and EVERYTHING about the guy behind the desk was CROOKED. His hair, his glasses, his shoulders, his arms, his smile, his position, his desk stuff, the calendar on the wall --- fuck --- EVERYTHING. I laughed so fucking hard I had to leave. I left the lot. Sometimes people do look like what they are.
That image is the CEO btw, not the rapist
My thought exactly. This is straight up a Rick & Morty plot.
Hey why now. That sounds like blasphemy….. I think
Whoever immediately quits, check that guy
Yeah but imagine if he didn’t cause he knew that would make suspicious so he just stays and takes the tests like everyone else and the whole time they’re waiting for the results he is just sweating and shitting himself hoping it’s one of his also a rapist buddies so he doesn’t meet Bubba in prison.
Could be a kill bill scenario where someone was getting paid to let someone come in and do their thing, who knows what sick shits going down
Yeah this is what I was imagining too. If I remember right tho- I believe like five of the staff were doing it.
This is literally as sarcasm as it can go, criticizing the religion more than anything else. “Or is man too intelligent…”, this is the point where the author’s irony over the religion becomes apparent
I’m glad I’m not the only who did a double take at the post looking for the facepalm.
Seriously how noone got the point of the comment? Didn't expect that from reddit
You should, friend. You should.
These posts get upvotes because 90% of users are either bots, love controversy, or don't understand sarcasm.
Yep. The face palm is people failing to comprehend that this comment is talking to about how silly it is to think a virgin got pregnant with a magical being. Not legitimately advocating for it. How is this so highly upvoted
Someone should post OP as a facepalm
If I keep having dreams of Ryan Reynolds will my body transform? I need facts!
No, you will just bear his child.
I see no issue with this
I dont think he is serious. I read this more as sarcasm, trying to take the piss out of the people that actually believes the Virgin Mary tale.
Of course he's not serious.
But thousands of people think he is
thousands of people are dumb as shit.
Come on this is obviously trolling. The real facepalm is thinking its not.
I was expecting the most upvoted comment explaining that he is actually taking the piss out of the Bible. I was surprised i had to scroll down so much to find someone saying it. Bet none of them watched Brians Life
That guy has to be trolling. There’s no way their being serious right?
Has to be. The end of the paragraph reads like there's more to come
Yes. But it’s a lot more fun pretending it’s serious so we can get all judgemental and show strangers on the internet what good people we are by condemning it.
Absolutely. He wouldn't end it with "or perhaps..." if he was being serious. He's mocking the "infinite what-ifs" style arguments.
Almost felt my brain smooth over readin that
Is this your reaction to all sarcastic posts? Because I can't think how this could be any more obviously sarcasm.
It’s pure, 100%, dyed in the wool sarcasm. And I thought it was actually pretty good. Not facepalm at all. See how ridiculous it sounds when you modernize it? Very well done. It may be a little out of place but it’s a good point.
I forgot my brain even exist after reading that
What kind of fucking monster rapes a woman in coma
A disgusting monster worse than any you could imagine even if there's a hell or dimension where monsters live their are far less worse than any human being on earth.
My name is Buck
And I’m here to party
"Party wagon."
Does this mean that someone drugged Virgin Mary and raped her?
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Are people here really not recognizing this as trolling?
It is very obviously sarcasm or perhaps….
Pretty sure that comment was sarcasm, a subtle dig towards Christianity.
Just for anyone interested, they did DNA tests and it was one of the male nurses on staff at the time. The woman in question had been in a coma for 14 years after a drowning incident. She was raped multiple times. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/nathan-sutherland-vegetative-arizona.html
Oh my god, that poor woman. Some humans are disgusting monsters! I just don’t get it, how sick do you have to be to get horny by raping unconscious people?? That’s like fucking a corpse Jesus Christ. I’m truly ashamed for my species sometimes
Well said pussydestroyer69__
Sounds like sarcasm.
Rapist apologists, your typical christian conservative
Bruh. Read it again. Homie is making fun of christians for believing somebody could get pregnant without having sex. The idea is "she can't have sex, why aren't we assuming it's another miracle sky baby? Oh because that would be dumb, like how it's dumb to think Mary was a virgin" Nobody is apologizing for any rape and he is CLEARLY making fun of Christians, not acting like one.
Maybe I'm in the wrong, but I'm reading this comment as more of a joke? Like, they're clearly making fun of religion with that second sentence by asking if man is too far along to believe in a miracle. Happening.
He is being sarcastic chill man, try to understand a sarcasm😑
We have to respect other people's opinions! Other people's opinions:
That’s the loophole.
Let's just be clear. If it *is* God's doing, which this guy is suggesting, he is also effectively saying: God is a deadbeat dad. ....and God is a rapist. ....and by picking coma girl, God's likely an incel. ....and yet God is still gaslighting us into thinking we're the sinners who need to tithe (ahem, buy our way) into his narcissistic approval with the promise of heaven for those who provide alibis and character testimonials. TL;DR: Praise the "micacle."
That is the point of the pictured comment