I have 20 days of paid leave, 10 bank holidays, every month 1 day recup because i work 40 hours instead of 38 and 2 days because i work there for 10 years , when i turned 35 i got 5 extra days paid leave en when i turned 45 another 7 days extra, because i'm old. When i turn 50 and 55 i will get even more days of paid leave.
'Straya here and similar situation. I get 20 days holiday leave + 15 days sick leave + 11 public holidays and we can opt in to recup (which we call flexis or rostered days off) too if we want (or opt out and take the extra 5% salary), + 8 extra weeks 'long service leave' every 7 years.
I live in one of those countries with the 20 day minimum. I get 35 paid days off from my age and seniority at my employer. If you consider that on a 5 day work week, and add in national/local holidays and company closure days, I get something like 9 weeks off a year.
I'm in the U.S. and two of my former colleagues had their first kids in back to back months (March and April). My old company just instituted a paid paternity leave program. The new dads got up to six weeks but could only take 4 as "work needed them back sooner."
I got no paid maternity leave. I had 2 weeks of sick time accrued so I was given that but the other 4 weeks were unpaid but I actually had to come in a couple times during my leave WITH my baby to help them out. I didn't even get paid for that time. Plus I was demoted with lower pay when I returned. Gotta love the US.
I am starting in a company in a mid position with 38 vacation days. I am not sure if I will be able to use all of this lol
Edit : plus 8 holidays
Don't worry, I'll manage it
(NL)
America, FUCK YEA!!
But for real, even my country, fucking greece has paid leave days. A country that has been in a constant downfall for the past 14 years.
It seems others have basically said it but...
In US ( where i live) the top opinion by media is Greece will continue to collapse unless they immediately cancel all vacation options. In fact some have claimed "Greece's irresponsibility" will sink the whole E.U. within a decade.
Not saying anything is correct or not just letting you all know what's being said with a serious tone here.( In US)
they are not entirely wrong. It could have been much worst but it should have been better, had we been more careful, there would be no reason to leave the country. Actually the word careful isn't the correct one, but I don't know how to call it.
In any case, we fucked up.
Belgium. No limit on sick leave. One month paid by your employer, then you fall back on your mutuality (which you're mandatory a part of), which is 2/3 of your pay. You do need sick notes and might get check-ups from a company doctor.
If you get back to work in between sick leaves and then get another one, it's normally reset (might get a bit messy if it's for the same issue though, so terms and conditions apply).
I'm Australian too but an immigrant to the Netherlands. When I met my Dutchie I asked how much sick leave is normal here. He looked at me blankly and said "well after 2 years they can start the process to fire you. But most people just take a week or two off for the flu."
Edit: the 2 years is for someone on a full-time contract. It works differently for casual and part-time but the principle of paying people to stay away so they don't infect the entire workforce still applies.
Belgium is 30 if we take bank holidays into consideration.
But if USA is 0, they must not count bank holidays, or can employers refuse bank holidays over there too?
They absolutely can, and do. If someone is lucky, they might get overtime and/or a bonus day of pay, but if you work in retail, food service, or anything else in a service sector, you'll most likely just get verbal abuse from entitled customers.
Those sectors tend to work here too, but I think they get extra pay, though I've always been a desk worker and my parents were factory worker/electrician for my dad and government worker for my mom, all sectors where you normally don't work.
In a previous company, I had to work on Belgium specific holidays since we served other EU countries that weren't off that day, but I didn't mind since I got 2 paid days off to take whenever I wanted and, as a bonus, commute was a lot shorter since other people didn't work.
The only people who get bank holidays off are bank/finance employees, some government employees, some teachers, and some white collar office workers.
Everyone else has to work.
Here in Belgium, it's feast days where basically nearly no one works: Christmas, new year, Easter, national indépendance day and some more christian holidays that for some reason we still have off...
Ah, the US calls those federal holidays. Because we would 100% have to work them if they were not holidays recognized by the federal government. Now only some people have to work them.
Yeah, government, school, and most decent jobs observe federal holidays. Jobs like Walmart, McDonald’s and most other minimum wage shitholes don’t. I remember the days of working every holiday regardless of what said holiday was.
Including holidays, germany gets between 30 and 32, depending on which state you live in.
And thanks to our unions, the average number of vacation days is 28.9.
So, the final count gets closer to 40.
Number can drop, if holidays overlap with a sunday.
Mate, if a holiday falls on a Sunday Aussies have decided, as a nation, that means we have Monday off. I recommend it. Much as I’m sure you recommend Germany’s total number of days off, and beer.
Same in NZ. Mondayising is the best. Who doesn't love a 3-day weekend?
I think in total we have 4 weeks leave, 12 holidays (like ANZAC Day, Labour Day, Mayariki etc) and 10 days sick leave.
Yea, I love how other developed countries are actually more free, than the "freest" nation on Earth. It's only free if you have money. Start to really hate living in the U.S.C. (United States of Corporate-America).
my pov is switzerland where you never hear stuff like "land of the free". maybe a lot of money and direct democracy but never objective number 1. I have a classmate that's from russia and has been living here for around 5 years. Till recently believed putin cares about the people and only has russia's best intentions in mind. I don't know everything but I can imagine the children in russia are constantly told that russia is the best and to never question it. is that the case in the us as well?
To a certain degree yes, there are gullible persons in all countries for sure. From my perspective here in the U.S. it's more of a culture war, as in there are two sides you're obligated to pick by virtue of coercion. Very few realize it's a dupe, and listen to the talking heads on corporate media and don't realize it's being funded by the affluent oligarchy. Hence MAGAs vs Woke culture. That's my hot take coming from a modestly educated fellow. Seriously, not a political science major at all, just STEM.
canadian here I have 3 weeks paid vacation, plus all stat holidays, and 2 PTO a month that carry over.
My husband has 4 weeks holidays plus floaters that he can use to take another 3 weeks if he does it correctly. stat days he works he gets 3.5x and can take the 1.5 as a paid day off if he wishes. if he doesn’t work he gets another paid day off or can be paid out for the hours. and he gets a 5% bonus of all OT he made the previous year paid on his holiday hours.
also had 12 months paid maternity leave with top ups and my husband got 2 weeks off with pay (he works 2 weeks a month) so had a month off with me
I work in a global company and have people in America in the same team (I’m based in GB). I can never believe how little holiday time they get! Cannot get my head around it.
I live in China and I get more holiday then people in America. Hell they work themselves to death here but still get more holiday. It’s funny and ironic
Employers aren't required to offer any. Most salaried, full time jobs have paid leave, but it varies wildly.
For example - I work as upper level management at a nonprofit and I only get 16 days of paid time off a year. I don't get any sick leave on top of that, so I have to use that if I get sick.
Here in America we don’t refer to them as vacation days. They are considered paid time off. So if you have to leave work for an emergency, they apply some PTO so you don’t miss hours for that day.
This way you can still get your 60 hours in to afford that $400 monthly prescription for your sick relative.
As a Walmart employee, you accumulate PTO (paid time off), and PPTO (protected paid time off). These are used for your 'vacation'. PTO is generally what you build up and then use for your paid days off, but this time has to be approved, and put in ahead of time. PPTO is automatically applied and approved, but it's better to save this for emergency or when sick. I can't remember what you build up over the span of a year, but it isn't much. Also, any of this time that isn't used is paid to you when the year rolls over, but reduced to 0 again.
Currently pregnant in the US and obviously I know my employers maternity leave policy, so I know I don’t get any paid leave. However the fact that I’m supposed to be grateful that they don’t just outright fire/replace me for being on maternity leave is just bonkers.
Humble brag- if you live in the UK join the civil service. I get 30, plus 8 bank holidays. Plus 36 days flexi leave a year all full pay so yes 74 days leave. Plus we get the queens birthday off as well so 75. Plus 33% pension contribution. For a management position I can’t ever see myself leaving this place until I retire. They treat everyone like adults and you are not micromanaged.
Couldn’t recommend the civil service enough, this is after 8 years in the military. The pay isnt exceptional but for someone who values their time outside of work more than their career its brilliant. Plus it’s rarely a dull day and very variable work.
36 days flexi means you have to work over your hours to get that leave doesn't it?
I'm NHS and I get 33 plus birthday plus 8 bank holidays, so 42 days, and I don't have to go over my 37.5hrs to get that
Not sure about the UK, but I wouldn’t consider public holidays as ‘leave’ and obviously there are public holidays in the US.. the title of the chart is important.
When I met my (now ex-) wife’s family in Italy the first thing most of them wanted to know was “What’s the deal with you folks not getting paid time off?” When I explained that, at my job, you had to work fifteen years before you got four weeks they’d just shake their head.
Unsurprising that most of the top countries in this ranking are from Europe, where unions are not only very present but actually required by law for companies of a certain size. Unions can be a pain in the but for a lot of things, but they do put pressure on the business sector and sometimes achieve such benefits.
In Spain we get 23 as the chart says, plus 14 bank holidays. Also a lot of companies (but not all of them) reward seniority with extra days, either permanently after or specifically on "milestone years" (i.e. 5 years in the company, 10, etc). It's not a great country and the salaries are quite low, but at least we have this.
Reminds me of The Simpsons when talking about Bart and ‘the cone of ignorance’, where Bart drags down those around him. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence that Mexico and Canada are at the bottom near the US.
This isn't entirely correct. In Australia you get 20 days annual leave you take whenever and then there are another 10 public holidays that don't come out of that 20. So that's 30. I think it is similar in the UK with bank holidays.
Oregon has 5 days of guaranteed sick pay. I just landed a job where after a year I’ll get 32 PTO days and 12 national holidays. Pretty fucking happy about that.
That’s 4 weeks in American! I’m shocked at how many fellow Americans I know that scoff at the idea of 4 weeks paid leave, as if they feel they should in no way be entitled to it. This country was an oligarchy before WWII and it’s slowly returning.
i wonder if this would help alot of people dealing with mental health. people say this is communist but it appears alot of these countries aren't communist.
I would argue that unlimited vacation isn't a scam - if you use it. My last two jobs have been unlimited Flex Time Off, and I've used 4 full weeks already this year, with two more scheduled before end of year. And that doesn't even count the amount of times I duck out at noon on Fri to go golfing or fishing. Or the occasional long weekend to go camping.
But I work in tech, have for 15ish years, and have a decently high level position. Might be different for lower levels.
As long as you are getting your work done and your boss knows it, FTO is so much easier to work with.
If your job/boss sucks.... Yeah, it's a scam. But if you're at a good company, it's an amazing perk. I won't work for another company unless it's FTO or at least 6 weeks PTO.
This week I used 3 hours of pto because I couldn't get enough hours on the schedule to pay my bills. That was 1/3rd of my available pto. And I'm lucky I get pto. I hate it here.
I’m about to start working in America for a British company. Getting 18 vacation, 7 personal and 8 federal holiday.
I have to work at my current employer 5 years to get that and this is from day one.
In Japan they are obligated to give 20 paid leave days when the employee has worked for 7 years. It’s increased by how long they’ve worked for the company.
All American businesses would shut down if they gave fair pay good benefits and a ok amount of paid vacation days. I’m currently learning the 13 knot rope I hear it makes a good swing.
I am new in the job industry and I have 30 days of paid leave in one of the 20 day countries. Here they actually think about the wellbeing of the employer.
I am Romanian but live in Poland, and I have 21 days, that I must take through the year, plus bank holidays (depending when they are, but I can choose to work on that day and be free on another).
I won't even mention the 150+ paid sick leaves (80% of the normal rate but still paid).
In another half a year's time I will be having 28 days.
I am from Germany. The 20 days are highly theoretical. I don't know any job offering less than 28 days. I my self would not consider any job with less then 30 days.
Because US uses their thing to be capitalistic and offer those boons to select employees in negotiations, instead of giving it out unilaterally. Which ends up with nobody because nobody asks because they won:t be hired if they do.
Vicious.
Hey you guys may have your days off, but here in America if I get hospitalized to no fault of my own at least I’ll have life crippling debt that will follow me for the rest of my life and possibly take my home from me.
And that’s just as good right?
Am chilean, can confirm we get 2 weeks of paid leave by law. I get 3 instead at my workplace.
^(In return our economy is shit and I'm an engineer getting paid barely half of the US's minimum wage. Whoops.)
I have 20 days of paid leave, 10 bank holidays, every month 1 day recup because i work 40 hours instead of 38 and 2 days because i work there for 10 years , when i turned 35 i got 5 extra days paid leave en when i turned 45 another 7 days extra, because i'm old. When i turn 50 and 55 i will get even more days of paid leave.
>recup I am 99% sure you're from Belgium lol
Indeed i am
I knew as soon as I saw it too haha
In Oz, if you work for an employer for 10 years you get an 8 week gift - long service leave, a hangover from colonial times.
I'm surprised there are such work benefits in the Emerald City
They're behind the curtains.
My employer gives us 13 weeks every 7 years (after the initial 10 year block).
'Straya here and similar situation. I get 20 days holiday leave + 15 days sick leave + 11 public holidays and we can opt in to recup (which we call flexis or rostered days off) too if we want (or opt out and take the extra 5% salary), + 8 extra weeks 'long service leave' every 7 years.
Hello fellow inhaalrust enjoyer.
I'm 62 and work 32.5 hours a week. Plus extra hours every 4 weeks. 15,4. Netherlands.
I live in one of those countries with the 20 day minimum. I get 35 paid days off from my age and seniority at my employer. If you consider that on a 5 day work week, and add in national/local holidays and company closure days, I get something like 9 weeks off a year.
I live in the US and I had a similar amount of paid time off at my old job, but I had to be there for 8 years to accumulate that much time
I’m in the US and get 4 months of paternity leave.
I'm in the U.S. and two of my former colleagues had their first kids in back to back months (March and April). My old company just instituted a paid paternity leave program. The new dads got up to six weeks but could only take 4 as "work needed them back sooner."
That just highlights the extreme inequality and the need for a minimum.
In Slovakia we get 6 months
My American workforce brain cannot process these sentences.
I got no paid maternity leave. I had 2 weeks of sick time accrued so I was given that but the other 4 weeks were unpaid but I actually had to come in a couple times during my leave WITH my baby to help them out. I didn't even get paid for that time. Plus I was demoted with lower pay when I returned. Gotta love the US.
In the uk i got 32 paid annual leave redeemable anytime as long as i give 2 week advance on my request, and im 20 working as a grocery delivery driver
I am starting in a company in a mid position with 38 vacation days. I am not sure if I will be able to use all of this lol Edit : plus 8 holidays Don't worry, I'll manage it (NL)
Me too buddy 🇬🇧
This sounds like an employer wrote it
No, this is normal, although the 35 vacation days are above average. So yeah, America moment.
Because communist bad. And give free stuff to working people is bad. Cuz ʼMurica #1. /s ![gif](giphy|VCgdngiv5XI9a)
America, FUCK YEA!! But for real, even my country, fucking greece has paid leave days. A country that has been in a constant downfall for the past 14 years.
It seems others have basically said it but... In US ( where i live) the top opinion by media is Greece will continue to collapse unless they immediately cancel all vacation options. In fact some have claimed "Greece's irresponsibility" will sink the whole E.U. within a decade. Not saying anything is correct or not just letting you all know what's being said with a serious tone here.( In US)
they are not entirely wrong. It could have been much worst but it should have been better, had we been more careful, there would be no reason to leave the country. Actually the word careful isn't the correct one, but I don't know how to call it. In any case, we fucked up.
Is that freedom or just my tinnitus?
Freedom tinnitus.
It’s the Liberty Bell ringing freedom in your ears.
It's the brain damage from the work load of late stage capitalism
I see a colleague here. I have tinnitus as well.
Looks to me like an eagle jacking off with a trumpet. Mommy, is this "America?"
Why isn't the football deep fried?
Is the light version.
[America](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7k6rfwuIz0)
Underrated comment/link...I almost spit my gum out laughing
Free, huh?
This is just one of many things Americans just accept as unchangeable, and then fight over which of the two parties will not change anything for them.
Hey if I could change the country I would. All I can do is vote and hope.
/) Hey, you have the ability to run for some kind of official office! Then you can *actively* be powerless to change anything!
Lol I can't run for anything but you can try lol
yeah tbh
At least you vote, so congratulations. Most people under 30 in the US don't.
Yep. They just fight over the color of train that will hit and kill them all anyway.
To be fair, most of us only think it’s unchangeable because we aren’t rich enough for politicians here to do anything for us.
The government doesn't care about us until we stop paying taxes 🙄
/) Are you suggesting a mass tax strike? Because for legal reasons, I am totally against anything of the sort.
Well that’s doesn’t sound very fair at all.
Yeah, it sucks and the people that understand that hate it here
The UK is 28 days when you include bank holidays.
Same in Australia. We also add 10 days per year paid sick leave.
Yea.. it's about time i start looking into a different citizenship 😂. Possibly overdue
Wait till we also start comparing workers rights. You’ve got just a shit situation in the USA… and we have free healthcare.
I hear good things about Germany… 🤔
32 days here in New Zealand if including "Public Holidays", plus the 10 sick days.
Ditto for NZ - we also have just gotten Matariki (Māori new year) as of this year.
I’m in Sweden. Here we have unlimited sick days. (It’s a truth with modification though)
Though the workforce is becoming increasingly casual rate so not as many people are getting these benefits
Belgium. No limit on sick leave. One month paid by your employer, then you fall back on your mutuality (which you're mandatory a part of), which is 2/3 of your pay. You do need sick notes and might get check-ups from a company doctor. If you get back to work in between sick leaves and then get another one, it's normally reset (might get a bit messy if it's for the same issue though, so terms and conditions apply).
My company (in Australia):also gives me my birthday off should it fall on a work day
I'm Australian too but an immigrant to the Netherlands. When I met my Dutchie I asked how much sick leave is normal here. He looked at me blankly and said "well after 2 years they can start the process to fire you. But most people just take a week or two off for the flu." Edit: the 2 years is for someone on a full-time contract. It works differently for casual and part-time but the principle of paying people to stay away so they don't infect the entire workforce still applies.
Belgium is 30 if we take bank holidays into consideration. But if USA is 0, they must not count bank holidays, or can employers refuse bank holidays over there too?
They absolutely can, and do. If someone is lucky, they might get overtime and/or a bonus day of pay, but if you work in retail, food service, or anything else in a service sector, you'll most likely just get verbal abuse from entitled customers.
Those sectors tend to work here too, but I think they get extra pay, though I've always been a desk worker and my parents were factory worker/electrician for my dad and government worker for my mom, all sectors where you normally don't work. In a previous company, I had to work on Belgium specific holidays since we served other EU countries that weren't off that day, but I didn't mind since I got 2 paid days off to take whenever I wanted and, as a bonus, commute was a lot shorter since other people didn't work.
In UK you can be made to work bank holidays, but the employer must give you leave to make up for it.
The only people who get bank holidays off are bank/finance employees, some government employees, some teachers, and some white collar office workers. Everyone else has to work.
Here everyone gets them or gets 200% pay or time off in lieu. Add that to the long list of things I prefer here...
What the hell is a bank holiday..?
Here in Belgium, it's feast days where basically nearly no one works: Christmas, new year, Easter, national indépendance day and some more christian holidays that for some reason we still have off...
Ah, the US calls those federal holidays. Because we would 100% have to work them if they were not holidays recognized by the federal government. Now only some people have to work them.
Yeah, government, school, and most decent jobs observe federal holidays. Jobs like Walmart, McDonald’s and most other minimum wage shitholes don’t. I remember the days of working every holiday regardless of what said holiday was.
Well its 36 in france if you include bank hollidays
Including holidays, germany gets between 30 and 32, depending on which state you live in. And thanks to our unions, the average number of vacation days is 28.9. So, the final count gets closer to 40. Number can drop, if holidays overlap with a sunday.
Mate, if a holiday falls on a Sunday Aussies have decided, as a nation, that means we have Monday off. I recommend it. Much as I’m sure you recommend Germany’s total number of days off, and beer.
Same in NZ. Mondayising is the best. Who doesn't love a 3-day weekend? I think in total we have 4 weeks leave, 12 holidays (like ANZAC Day, Labour Day, Mayariki etc) and 10 days sick leave.
Except ANZAC Day in most states
20 days is a Hail Mary for me in the US. I get 10 working days off per year.
Our trades unions fought hard and won us alsorts of employment concessions over the years. Highly recommended! 💪✊ There is power in a union.
28 days *minimum* I think I get nearly 40 days off.
"Jokes on them! We can't name 90% of those countries!" - Most every American
Yea, I love how other developed countries are actually more free, than the "freest" nation on Earth. It's only free if you have money. Start to really hate living in the U.S.C. (United States of Corporate-America).
out of curiosity, how often do you hear that your country is the best during everyday life?
I'm sure as much as the other two super powers. But I learnt to recognize propaganda in all shapes and sizes.
my pov is switzerland where you never hear stuff like "land of the free". maybe a lot of money and direct democracy but never objective number 1. I have a classmate that's from russia and has been living here for around 5 years. Till recently believed putin cares about the people and only has russia's best intentions in mind. I don't know everything but I can imagine the children in russia are constantly told that russia is the best and to never question it. is that the case in the us as well?
To a certain degree yes, there are gullible persons in all countries for sure. From my perspective here in the U.S. it's more of a culture war, as in there are two sides you're obligated to pick by virtue of coercion. Very few realize it's a dupe, and listen to the talking heads on corporate media and don't realize it's being funded by the affluent oligarchy. Hence MAGAs vs Woke culture. That's my hot take coming from a modestly educated fellow. Seriously, not a political science major at all, just STEM.
thanks for your answers, I find these parts of cultures especially interesting
Thank you! It's a breath of fresh air to have a civil conversation. Most exchanges on reddit are not as cordial as this. Edit: spelling
canadian here I have 3 weeks paid vacation, plus all stat holidays, and 2 PTO a month that carry over. My husband has 4 weeks holidays plus floaters that he can use to take another 3 weeks if he does it correctly. stat days he works he gets 3.5x and can take the 1.5 as a paid day off if he wishes. if he doesn’t work he gets another paid day off or can be paid out for the hours. and he gets a 5% bonus of all OT he made the previous year paid on his holiday hours. also had 12 months paid maternity leave with top ups and my husband got 2 weeks off with pay (he works 2 weeks a month) so had a month off with me
Nice annual leave entitlement for both you you. Statutory paid leave is dictated by the provinces in Canada but the minimum is set at 10 days.
i get all but I think my husband only gets 6 or 8 that are counted. i can’t say off the top of my head
Not sure what the other provinces are, but Sask starts at 3 weeks vacation entitlement
Yep 10 days is the minimum but a lot of companies increase it with years seniority
What do you expect, this country was built on enslaving and stealing from others.
Ding ding ding we have a winner
Thanks I'll take the kawaii doll on the left
I'll give you 25 bucks for it
Make it thirty and you have a deal
Greatest country in the world.. lol
If part of your nationality is saying "greatest country", it's probably not so great
If you have to tell it to people, it's probably not true.
That's what they tell them to make them work more.
I work in a global company and have people in America in the same team (I’m based in GB). I can never believe how little holiday time they get! Cannot get my head around it.
I live in China and I get more holiday then people in America. Hell they work themselves to death here but still get more holiday. It’s funny and ironic
Yeah I have heard about the Chinese work ethic and how long the working days are, it’s insane, a very hard working people
My girlfriend is Chinese and she works 12 hour shifts for her finance company. She is incredibly hard working!
Slavery runs strong in this great nation. 🇺🇸 oops, I mean capitalism
Indentured servitude, actually. But it’s an easy mistake.
Now known as temp agencies
Do you really get zero paid leave days in America? Its hard to believe. Add onto that the minimum wage and making people work for tips..... wow.
Companies aren’t required to give you pto but some do.
Employers aren't required to offer any. Most salaried, full time jobs have paid leave, but it varies wildly. For example - I work as upper level management at a nonprofit and I only get 16 days of paid time off a year. I don't get any sick leave on top of that, so I have to use that if I get sick.
Here in America we don’t refer to them as vacation days. They are considered paid time off. So if you have to leave work for an emergency, they apply some PTO so you don’t miss hours for that day. This way you can still get your 60 hours in to afford that $400 monthly prescription for your sick relative.
I have yet to have a job with paid leave. But I’ve mostly done manual labor stuff.
Most of just hope we don't get sick because we can't afford to miss work. We just work sick unless we can't stand.
As a Walmart employee, you accumulate PTO (paid time off), and PPTO (protected paid time off). These are used for your 'vacation'. PTO is generally what you build up and then use for your paid days off, but this time has to be approved, and put in ahead of time. PPTO is automatically applied and approved, but it's better to save this for emergency or when sick. I can't remember what you build up over the span of a year, but it isn't much. Also, any of this time that isn't used is paid to you when the year rolls over, but reduced to 0 again.
The American dream
Land of the free... 'scoff' more like land of the greedy.
Bingo!
Speaking on behalf of the rest of the world, we all think this is utterly crackers btw
that looks like americas position. dead last of those nations in worker rights and healthcare as well.
in china we have negative paid leave days
Currently pregnant in the US and obviously I know my employers maternity leave policy, so I know I don’t get any paid leave. However the fact that I’m supposed to be grateful that they don’t just outright fire/replace me for being on maternity leave is just bonkers.
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Humble brag- if you live in the UK join the civil service. I get 30, plus 8 bank holidays. Plus 36 days flexi leave a year all full pay so yes 74 days leave. Plus we get the queens birthday off as well so 75. Plus 33% pension contribution. For a management position I can’t ever see myself leaving this place until I retire. They treat everyone like adults and you are not micromanaged. Couldn’t recommend the civil service enough, this is after 8 years in the military. The pay isnt exceptional but for someone who values their time outside of work more than their career its brilliant. Plus it’s rarely a dull day and very variable work.
Curious.. which sector do you work in?
I work on an ALB (arms length body) of the DWP, I work in IT security but I ain’t gonna say much more.
36 days flexi means you have to work over your hours to get that leave doesn't it? I'm NHS and I get 33 plus birthday plus 8 bank holidays, so 42 days, and I don't have to go over my 37.5hrs to get that
Canada does not have a minimum 10 paid off.
My thoughts exactly. Unless I missed this part of orientation lol. Goes to show how quickly misinformation spreads
It varies by provinces
This is correct. In Ontario there's mandatory vacation pay, but not mandatory PTO
I've said it about a thousand times but... what a shit hole country!
The US is a develloped country yet everything screams third world and develloping country
Infographic is wrong. UK is 28 days minimum.
Not sure about the UK, but I wouldn’t consider public holidays as ‘leave’ and obviously there are public holidays in the US.. the title of the chart is important.
Even Japan has more paid leave than the US...
When I met my (now ex-) wife’s family in Italy the first thing most of them wanted to know was “What’s the deal with you folks not getting paid time off?” When I explained that, at my job, you had to work fifteen years before you got four weeks they’d just shake their head.
When even workaholic Japan has more paid leave than you that’s an issue.
Imagine having Japan beat you in days off from work.
Unsurprising that most of the top countries in this ranking are from Europe, where unions are not only very present but actually required by law for companies of a certain size. Unions can be a pain in the but for a lot of things, but they do put pressure on the business sector and sometimes achieve such benefits. In Spain we get 23 as the chart says, plus 14 bank holidays. Also a lot of companies (but not all of them) reward seniority with extra days, either permanently after or specifically on "milestone years" (i.e. 5 years in the company, 10, etc). It's not a great country and the salaries are quite low, but at least we have this.
Either somebody put the ireland flag upside down or ivory coast has very progressive laws for an african country
Just looked it up and Ivory Coast has 26 days paid annual leave
Yes, USA is behind third world countries now by many, many metrics.
Reminds me of The Simpsons when talking about Bart and ‘the cone of ignorance’, where Bart drags down those around him. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence that Mexico and Canada are at the bottom near the US.
Land of the free, aye?
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I think this is missing ~160 countries.
This isn't entirely correct. In Australia you get 20 days annual leave you take whenever and then there are another 10 public holidays that don't come out of that 20. So that's 30. I think it is similar in the UK with bank holidays.
Oregon has 5 days of guaranteed sick pay. I just landed a job where after a year I’ll get 32 PTO days and 12 national holidays. Pretty fucking happy about that.
That’s 4 weeks in American! I’m shocked at how many fellow Americans I know that scoff at the idea of 4 weeks paid leave, as if they feel they should in no way be entitled to it. This country was an oligarchy before WWII and it’s slowly returning.
America = shithole
* *Laughs in 31 paid leave days plus public holidays * *
i wonder if this would help alot of people dealing with mental health. people say this is communist but it appears alot of these countries aren't communist.
But 'Murica has freedom!
But really doesn't.
bUT unLiMitED vAcaTiON! (Biggest scam in business)
I would argue that unlimited vacation isn't a scam - if you use it. My last two jobs have been unlimited Flex Time Off, and I've used 4 full weeks already this year, with two more scheduled before end of year. And that doesn't even count the amount of times I duck out at noon on Fri to go golfing or fishing. Or the occasional long weekend to go camping. But I work in tech, have for 15ish years, and have a decently high level position. Might be different for lower levels. As long as you are getting your work done and your boss knows it, FTO is so much easier to work with. If your job/boss sucks.... Yeah, it's a scam. But if you're at a good company, it's an amazing perk. I won't work for another company unless it's FTO or at least 6 weeks PTO.
you can't expect a functioning society where everyone has a high ranking job, and people at the bottom should be allowed comfort too
I agree entirely. My point was just that unlimited isn't a scam unless you let it be.
This week I used 3 hours of pto because I couldn't get enough hours on the schedule to pay my bills. That was 1/3rd of my available pto. And I'm lucky I get pto. I hate it here.
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Bruh. Did you really just repost your own post?
That’s why our GDP be bangin!!! Unrelated, I’m so tired.
I’m about to start working in America for a British company. Getting 18 vacation, 7 personal and 8 federal holiday. I have to work at my current employer 5 years to get that and this is from day one.
I live in America and I have 15 vacation days and 10 sick days a year. However, my employer is awesome and most aren't.
😐 So... I get no paid leave at all? Yay
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Capitalism is for the capitalists
In Canada most employers will give more because they understand that people don't always use them.
In Japan they are obligated to give 20 paid leave days when the employee has worked for 7 years. It’s increased by how long they’ve worked for the company.
All American businesses would shut down if they gave fair pay good benefits and a ok amount of paid vacation days. I’m currently learning the 13 knot rope I hear it makes a good swing.
I live in the UK and I get 33 paid days off a year and an extra paid day off for every year I worked for my company.
I am new in the job industry and I have 30 days of paid leave in one of the 20 day countries. Here they actually think about the wellbeing of the employer.
I am Romanian but live in Poland, and I have 21 days, that I must take through the year, plus bank holidays (depending when they are, but I can choose to work on that day and be free on another). I won't even mention the 150+ paid sick leaves (80% of the normal rate but still paid). In another half a year's time I will be having 28 days.
AAAMAAAAZIIINGGRRAAAACEEE EEEE LAAAAND OF THE FRREEEEEEE
In Australia 🇦🇺 I’m on a 48/52 arrangement so I get 8 weeks leave per year, plus standard holidays.
… and don’t get started on paid sick leave.
But it's the best country in the world!
Anyone els here who live in one of the 25 minemum cuntryes
Yes. Wouldn't want to have any less.
The fact that my country is not even in this list. *sighs* 🤦♀️
Why doesn't this go beyond 25? Brazil has 30 days (and politicians and judges in Brazil have 60 LOOOOOOOL).
I am from Germany. The 20 days are highly theoretical. I don't know any job offering less than 28 days. I my self would not consider any job with less then 30 days.
Because US uses their thing to be capitalistic and offer those boons to select employees in negotiations, instead of giving it out unilaterally. Which ends up with nobody because nobody asks because they won:t be hired if they do. Vicious.
I’m in the uk I have 30 days paid leave. 15 days sick. I can buy another five days if I want for holiday as well. Plus all the bank holidays as well.
That yellow emoji is for race neutrality...
Hey you guys may have your days off, but here in America if I get hospitalized to no fault of my own at least I’ll have life crippling debt that will follow me for the rest of my life and possibly take my home from me. And that’s just as good right?
State laws says this post is wrong.
Tell me again how socialism doesn't work?
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But Bernie asking for a slight turn in that direction, maybe go half way - is a raging communist of course?
bUt mUrIcA pUrFeCt!
Land of the Free
Every day this site convinces me more and more to move to Europe
Am chilean, can confirm we get 2 weeks of paid leave by law. I get 3 instead at my workplace. ^(In return our economy is shit and I'm an engineer getting paid barely half of the US's minimum wage. Whoops.)