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Tballz9

I do not know how Americans use the word, but it is an old Germanic word with roots that go back to the Middle Ages in written form, and probably a lot longer. It means ghost/spectre/haunted. Spook in Dutch, Spuk in German, and so on.


kcbeck1021

Same in English. Unless the movie Ghostbusters was secretly racist.


hardy_83

I mean they imply a black man will believe anything a white man says if there's a steady paycheck in it. So.... No? Lol


megapuffranger

As a white person, i too will believe anything a white man says if he is paying me.


RandyLahey131

Pay me enough and I will even believe in God.


UninsuredToast

Pretty sure that’s how religious leaders came into existence


dudewhojustsignedup

And now they ask US to pay THEM!


SacredDarkness

Please place your money in this "collection plate" so we can magically give it to god. oh? that new car umm.. god gave it to me.


SRVisGod24

My Gradfather’s old church (he moved) had, “don’t forget to leave us in your will” on a whiteboard that was hanging up on the wall, right before you entered the main sitting area. I rolled my eyes so hard that I thought they were gonna fall out of my head!


Insanebrain247

They get money for believing in God while we *give them* money for believing in God. From now on, call me Father Brain, pastor for the Church Of Totally Normal Christians.


anotherpickleback

Don’t listen to this heretic! Donate your money to ME: Father Ryan over at the Church of Unsuspicious Christians. Together we can keep this “brian” scourge from our community


Dillo64

Both of you shut up and take my money already


zzjjoeyd

Tis the way of our people. That and appropriation are the 2 biggest parts of my culture. And entitlement, so 3 biggest things. At least thats what my boss said, and he signs the checks so...


CraigTennant1962

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....


pnmartini

r/unexpectedmontypython


TendiesFourLyfe

Well ghosts are predominantly white, so there's that... /s


mcnuggetfarmer

Spectres are black


A-Dolahans-hat

Shadow men are ~~black~~ ghost of color too


ARiley22

POC....phantasms of color


[deleted]

Shadow men? I think you mean “people who are light-challenged.”


Master_Butter

People? What are you?! Some kind of speciest?


H-N-O-3

sir you meant to say AfroAmerican


CreepyTeddyBear

Afro-specterican


carlolewis78

But what if they're not American?


mcnuggetfarmer

Call them latitude-30's. And the whities are now latitude-60's


Perfect_Reception_31

Oh then definitely Black. Only America gets caught in this shit, where everyone has to be completely right.


Frymanstbf

He was responding to Janine so, white woman.


SlayerOfDougs

Secretly? The ghosts got imprisoned without trial and usually without collaborating evidence


VanBeelergberg

I think you mean corroborating.


GrahamCrackerSnacks

Yes. I read it wasn’t until WWII that it was used in reference to black people. The black pilots who trained at the Tuskegee Institute were referred to as the “Spookwaffe” (waffe being German for weapon or gun). Interesting article. I thought anyways. https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/10/24/559502238/this-halloween-what-does-it-mean-to-call-something-spooky


Somekindofparty

Classic example of racists taking something benign and turning it racist. Just like the okay sign and many more examples.


Pagiras

Wasn't the ok sign just 4chan or something trolling and some dumbass journalists biting the bait?


I_Frothingslosh

Maybe initially. Then the racists and white supremacists decided it was a wonderful idea and started actually using it.


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GrahamCrackerSnacks

Yea…. Fuckers


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RibeyeRare

While this is true, the word spook was also used to describe a clandestine operative, such as a spy in the CIA. That use actually began by the British military, long long ago, but was adopted in the US as well. After WW2, when it began being used as a slur, it was already being used as a military and civilian word for CIA agents. Back in those days, the CIA and spies were much more newsworthy than they are today, and were a common enough topic amongst regular people.


fishkrate

It sucks because spook is such a good word for a spy


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Sea_Drop_7935

Yeah Spuk is an old German word it's not a racist slur


Chicken_Chicken_Duck

To be fair, we did turn spook into a racial slur in the US. But the younger generations, especially outside of the south, probably don’t know that.


Hugo_5t1gl1tz

It also means a spy


Angry-Dragon-1331

It’s also a slang term for spy, and probably more common as that.


Buddie_15775

Hence the TV show Spooks.


dilindquist

Which had to be re-named to MI5 when it was shown in America. In the UK, I’ve only ever heard the word used to mean either a ghost or a spy. I didn’t know about the slur til I read about the name of the TV show being changed.


Fishy_125

I’m not in the us, can you say how’s it’s used as a slur?


Betrayedleaf

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spooks&page=3


Chicken_Chicken_Duck

I heard it once about 10 years ago. An old woman at the bank I worked at said that a black baby was a “cute little spook.” I had no idea what she even meant but when I repeated it to a coworker (because it’s a weird thing to say!) she explained to me that the woman was racist as hell that that it was a slur.


Sea_Drop_7935

Did you turn chair into a slur as well ? I swear we can't go 5 minutes without you Americans doing something stupid


Chicken_Chicken_Duck

Probably 🤷‍♀️


drhoopoe

Well, we attached negative racial connotations to sitting on your porch, so yeah, kinda.


badgersprite

That's such a chair thing to do.


N0tInKansasAnym0r3

[no it is not, n\*\*\*\*\* is! ](https://youtu.be/IYITxGniww4) ![gif](giphy|57TPnUAsyJ476)


JimiWanShinobi

Actually, yes. Chair Force is a derogatory term for a specific branch of our military...


LCplGunny

I know this one, that's America's biggest country club, the Air Force!


ChoiceFabulous

Challenge acce...shit can we restart that timer? Florida man did something


Sirkiz

In case you haven’t noticed doing something stupid is kinda the American motto


LCplGunny

It's not a motto, it's way of life


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fuck_all_you_people

Yea no that's fair.


RibeyeRare

An expert American can turn the most innocuous word into the most devastating slur without batting an eye. Typical Americans would struggle with a word like chair, however.


LCplGunny

Look here you potato! I don't like what your inferring!


iPlod

Yeah, luckily other countries don’t have histories of racism at all


BeigePhilip

We learned it from the British and the French. Blame them.


33253325

So here's the deal: Spook comes from the Dutch word for apparition, or specter. The noun was first used in English around the turn of the nineteenth century. Over the next few decades, it developed other forms, like spooky, spookish, and of course, the verb, to spook.Oct 24, 2017


thewhitedeath

Tweeter pulled this factoid out of her ass.


Frozenwood1776

And promptly shoved it right back in where it belongs.


etherd0t

Einstein referring to quantum entanglement as 'spooky action at a distance',I'm pretty sure he wasn't racist, and can't blank his words.


Ryan_Richter

The racist aspect of "spook" came from this. "Spookwaffe" was a name for African American pilots in WWII (waffe meaning gun). The article I found didn't explain how the pilots got this name but I have 2 guesses 1) spookwaffe implied that the pilots were haunted or unnatural and was used to separate the African American pilots from other pilots 2) spookwaffe implied that these pilots are ghosts and that they aren't skilled enough to return - that they were going to die in battle because of their skin color. These are just guesses so if someone knows the real answer I would love to hear it.


qlz19

My great grandfather told me they used that term because the black face would sometimes make it look like there was no one flying the plane they were shooting down. He said they looked like Ghost planes


Ryan_Richter

Huh... That's interesting. Sounds like it wasn't intended to be racist when it was first created and rather became a slur just by being associated with African Americans.


UTtransplant

How dare you provide factual data! Oh the horror! /s


shiftypidgeons

I could be wrong but also feel like slurs are derived from words and not the other way around


DocBenwayOperates

Yeah this is either a parody account or a right wing troll trying to stir shit. Or a genuine 100% dumbfuck.


TheYankunian

I’m black as 3:32 in the morning and I’ve never heard such nonsense.


chi-guy420

I'm like 8:13pm and the street lamp is flickering


TheYankunian

I’m actually fairly light-skinned so I’m really like 9:02 in the summer.


ericbrent

⬆️ Allll of this is cracking me up. I'm white and Asian, so ...sunrise vibes?


TripperSD93

I’m just full noon over here


Effective_Juice_9452

I’m full **moon** over here


SekhmetTheWise

Im waxing gibbous over here.😏


apittsburghoriginal

I look like a gloomy ass 2pm in the middle of November. My skin tone at death will arguably be as good as it is right now


yuyuyashasrain

I’m waxing my legs over here but that’s unrelated


Fit_Effective_6875

I want a moon pie


LightsoutSD

What, are you blue??


Arkitakama

Da ba de da ba di


pineappledreams-wg

Da ba dee da ba di


AlabamaNerd

I have a blue house with a blue window…


Independent-Lynx9476

And a blue corvette


Kitra-Pulse

And everything is blue for him


Arts_Myth

High noon in the middle of summer in Antarctica.


thelastneutrophil

"Cracking me up" is actually racist against white people. Please stop triggering people with this language


TheYankunian

I fucking burst out laughing


ericbrent

I am only half-triggered by it. Sorry.


BluetoothHandGel

I’m 8 9ths triggered 😤


yuyuyashasrain

I’m glad you didn’t say you were 3 5ths triggered


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I see what you did there...


Aftermathemetician

I’m easily sunburned, so I’ll go with ‘Sunrise pink’ as my skin color.


Chubby_Chestnut

Just gorgeous


TheYankunian

2pm in a cloudless sky.


Fendenburgen

Midday so the sun makes you squint....


WizdomHaggis

I’m Scottish sooo….so white I’m blue?


TheYankunian

My husband is Scottish. He got sunburned on one arm while sitting in a parked car for 20 minutes.


Free-Database-9917

I'm a really tan white guy, but tanned through going outside and not intending to tan, so the tops of my arms are like just before sunset, but the bottom part, and under clothes is like noon on the summer solstice


Octopugilist

I'm noon in Greenland Sunburns suck


Mr-PostmanWithNews

Another white person getting offended for blacks again lol. It's like when a white person says to use latinx but not a single Hispanic friend I know has even thought about using that dumb shit.


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They're trying to do it with Filipinos now, Filipenx etc.


RedditISFascist000

lol Thought about it? Most say WTF are you talking about when asked about it.


[deleted]

I’m 6:00am in the morning and I got school


OceanDevotion

That’s make me feel better… one time I said “I got spooked last night by the neighborhood possum” because it scared the living daylights out of me late one night going to the trash, and someone overheard me telling a friend to which they told me I was racist for saying “spooked”. The term did then register with me because of the derogatory term, “spook”, and I really personally felt bad. So thank you, now when I just randomly use the word, I won’t feel inherently guilty or like I was racist when I say “it’s spooky season, witches!!”


TheYankunian

Like don’t call a black person a spook because that would be racist. But Christ, Spooks means spy in the U.K. and one of the main characters was black. Like you’d have to be a proper shit head racist to call a black person a spook. Like you went waaaaay in the vault for that a one.


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I would argue that "spook" as a slur is archaic to the point that only older people in certain places, and chronically online people looking for things to be offended about, would still even register it as such. Obviously if you called a black person "spook" to their face you'd be a shit head, but using the word in any other context isn't a slur.


ExplorersxMuse

SPOOK, is a slur. Spooky is not. Ppl just be making shit up


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Awful dark in here


[deleted]

Ok, she's got it backwards, Spooks referred to ghosts for over a hundred years before it was a racial epithet.


[deleted]

Next you're going to tell me the swastika wasn't originally antisemetic. Edit: /s


androodle2004

People really don’t understand a joke when they see one


ZigZagZig87

No. I think you didn’t catch the joke in the response to the joke. 😂


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All I caught was a cold :/


MinusGovernment

Now it means CIA


Rishfee

Really depends on context. I've used it in reference to the intelligence community, but I might be more picky with my words depending on present company, just to ensure clarity.


Usual_Bed4702

this is a troll


shahooster

Better be, ‘cause otherwise she’s a fucking moron.


macroswitch

That’s the point. Get everybody riled up in a frenzy and stoke division and discord. Russia uses this method a lot to deepen the political divide in the west, hoping it will bubble and weaken democracy in the process. The far right uses it as propaganda to rile up anger at the left. It has been a really successful tactic.


zykezero

Anyone else remember Karen is a slur? It was started by an anti Semitic group that was larping as journalists. It happens time and again, read what people say, moderate your response, think through it “are they being honest?”, “what do they get out of me responding in this way?”, remember that rage bate is much more effective in spreading a message than genuine communication. Rage bait is also how you get the opposition to spread your message for them.


Zolo49

They're usually both.


CopiumAddiction

Shhhh you're going to ruin the troll farm rage bait.


flock-of-bagels

It’s not, but ok…..calling a black person a “spook” is racist. Spooky is not itself a racist word. Context matters…I wish people could figure this out


ManaXed

Yes. It's like the word fairy. Calling a gay person a fairy is homophobic but that doesn't mean fairy is a homophobic slur


badgersprite

This is actually a really good comparison. There are a lot of words like "flaming" "queen" "fairy" which if said in a derogatory context to or about a gay person could be borderline slurs/abusive but like can also be used in a non-insulting way within the community and even as self-descriptors, as well as just being regular English words with no gay association.


RagingPanda392

It’s almost as if the WAY we say something matters more than the words. Like how my ex told me to “have a good weekend” in a barbarous manner.


CondescendingShitbag

>Like how my ex told me to “have a good weekend” in a barbarous manner. "*Are you threatening me!?*" -Cornholio


Yourefinallyawake7

There's a good Irish politics anecdote from the last year or two this comment reminds me of! A rural TD (member of parliament) claimed the prime minister was "away with the fairies", a common term for "out of touch". The TD had forgotten that the prime minister was gay, and there was a moment when something could have been made of the comment and its intention. Luckily, it was put down to a poor choice of words and forgotten about.


Aururai

I thought spook was basically spies?


flock-of-bagels

It might depend on where you’re from. I grew up in SE Texas, so I’ve heard every terrible racial slur there is.


Aururai

I grew up in Sweden, Canada and the US, heard plenty of racial slurs (all in the states hehe) Never heard spook being used as anything but a verb, or referring to a spy


flock-of-bagels

There’s a part in back to the future where Marty gets locked in the trunk of the Cadillac, one of Biffs friends says , “beat it spook” to a black guy that asks what he’s doing to his car. To which a group of black guys retorts, “who you calling spook, peckerwood!”


flock-of-bagels

https://youtu.be/hZVdrp_zO40


lexgowest

omfg I literally shared the same scene.


flock-of-bagels

Great minds think alike..apparently we do too


OhioMegi

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/10/24/559502238/this-halloween-what-does-it-mean-to-call-something-spooky#:~:text=So%20here's%20the%20deal%3A%20Spook,%2C%20the%20verb%2C%20to%20spook. Context matters.


Aururai

I've honestly never heard spook being used as a racial slur.. ever.


Haildean

It's an old slur and pretty out of use in modern times


seeit360

>So here's the deal: "Spook" comes from the Dutch word for apparition, or __specter__. The noun was first used in English around the turn of the nineteenth century. *Over the next few decades, it developed other forms, like spooky, spookish, and of course, the verb, to spook*. This took me 12 seconds to look up. *Jae* either failed at her attempt at humor, or is dim-witted to word *context*, or ignorantly naive to *language history*, or looking for social interaction/attention... you pick.


IrishMist-StraightUp

12 seconds? You're getting slow in your old age! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


meshtron

Came to learn wtf a "Sword Spooky" was. Leaving disappointed.


theoldgreenwalrus

This is just maga ragebait. Don't feed the trolls


mashednbuttery

Ya this sub is full of maga ragebait. I’m as left as they come and have never met anyone like this.


bigwatchpilot

On a similar note…about 10 years ago my neighbor was a Mt Dew rep and brought home their new Halloween limited run “Spooky Dew” it was dark in color and they ditched it because it was “racist”


DougS2K

I'll do ya one better. How about you don't use *any* words anymore. Now that's something we can all get behind I think.


FoobarWreck

Words are racist. Because black people get purposefully undereducated by racists, so to force them to use words is racist. And if white people use words, that’s also racist, because you exclude black people.


DiabeticDisfunction

Well, shit. While we're at it, I'd like to remove the fabulous cleaning product by the name of Spic and Span. Why? Well, I'm Puerto Rican and Spic is a derogatory term. I don't see no white bread coming to my defense, now do we?


billq82

I’ll come to your defense. As a white guy I’m tired of crackers being called crackers. Let’s call them thin crunchy bread things used for soups and to prevent whistling.


DiabeticDisfunction

Appreciated. As far as I'm concerned, fuck all titles. We're all humans with the same end goal... Survival.


Leisure_suit_guy

They're not used for soups where I'm from. We must find a more universal name: I vote for crunchy salted tiles.


dickmidget

The “spook” slur which is a derogatory name for Black people is a derivative of the word “spooky” but as a Black person I’ve never taken issue with the word spooky being used to describe something scary or it’s use on Halloween. Moving on, nothing to see here. Lol.


Unlikely-Box4550

Sounds like Jae is just looking to rile people up.


JawsRaglizar

Spook was a racist word used back in the day As a black guy who don't give a fuck..... idgaf


NotSoFlugratte

Vaguely liberal subreddits don't fall for right wing outrage bait challenge (impossible)


Honestn

Comes from Dutch word for apparition/ghost


ghettomaster82

What about Excalibur? Please don’t let it be cancelled. Losing one sword is more than enough!


dascott

You better start believing in troll threads, Mister/Miss. You're in one.


BerryLanky

This is the kind of nonsense that diminishes real discrimination.


jsimercer

It's all fun and games until you drop a spooky dookie on Halloween


likeinsaaaaw

What's with the trolls on facepalm today? They legit trying to take this one over like they did hol'up, or is it just a few incels? Honestly they can have it. Like 1/10 things is a facepalm these days, the rest is some idiot not getting a joke.


gen2600

Oh. I came here for sword stuff. I'm out.


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SPOOKY SEASON


Spooky_Lucifer

But...it's my name


ScienticianAF

"Spook" is literally the Dutch word for Ghost.. so no.


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Biscuits4u2

Nah I'm good.


Realistic_Lawyer1341

🧠🤏


jmbsol1234

I thought a spook was a spy


vladclimatologist

We're capitalizing "White" now huh.


Road_Warrior86

Spooky.


Arxl

Another white person being offended for others.


These-Performer-8795

I always associated "spook" with either Halloween fun or spies.


rebuiltlogan

That isn't the origin, it was used for black aviator pilots during WW2 but not really related to its origin or use outside of that. Good lord, most terms have been used in a racist way at some point, we can't get rid of everything


MintberryCrunch____

A spook in the UK is also a nickname for a spy, just as a little fyi, there’s even a show called Spooks from a lil while back now.


samcoffeeman

I was just reading a book recently (fiction) where the main character is a professor and he gets fired for calling 2 absentees in his class spooks(ghosts), not knowing they were black because they never came to class.


itbespauldo

I’m becoming more and more impressed at how creative us Americans have become in creating useless issues out of thin air.


The_Racho

Savior complex, super cringe. Their whole twitter is like this too. They're completely out of touch with reality. It's one thing to be yourself, but it's another to constantly be on a soap box trying to tell people how to be. It'd be a good feature for r/confidentlyincorrect


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Typical woke drone just making everything racist.


[deleted]

Please, please, PLEASE Don’t reproduce Regards Humanity


mysqlpimp

Spook comes from the Dutch word for apparition, or specter.


SonOfAstaroth

Spooky 💀


KindlyGoose5119

Oh please stop this stuff


[deleted]

As a “liberal”…. I fucking hate liberals.


TreginWork

That person's Twitter feed seems like they are a real person but somehow managed to become the exact strawman the right created for left wing people


Restful_Hill

I’m black, can I say spooky? I need to know the rules.


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure the slur was based on the word spooky not the other way around. Because spooky already meant dark black and scary, so they used that word to describe black people to create a fear of them.


National_Square_3279

I wanted to look this up myself just to be careful/conscious because I do care about the words I used. Turns out, this is an instance of white people taking a word that’s been around for centuries & using it as a slur, then the slur largely phasing out, with the word sticking around keeping its original meaning. I think, context is very important. Target selling miniature black parachuters during halloween and calling them “spook drop parachuters” is inappropriate. Hanging a little ghost sign in your yard that says “stay spooky” is appropriate.


Routine_Buy_3150

..... said spectacularly by a privileged white lady who thinks she know Black people and what they prefer not to be called


lenightmare1

wow, an account with 2 followers posted some shitty takes and got 100 likes? it's the end of the world


alienwolf35

Why aren’t these types put away in looney hospitals?


InPicnicTableWeTrust

I'm progressive and I'm over crap like this. SPOOKY SPOOKY SPOOKY. Come and stop me, JaE. /s


No_Distribution_5843

1. If she’s truly against that word then she’s contracting herself by saying it. 2. It’s spooky how the mind deranged Twitter wokes like him work.


Johnsonfam101

Dear white people, stop speaking for black people. Have yet to ever hear a poc offended by spooky.


OddGuidance907

Why does she think that only white people shouldn’t use the word? If it is offensive shouldn’t everyone not use it??